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From the President
8-bit Vice Praz
Time to bring up a subject that is from the
seamier side of compu-terdom: that of soft-
ware piracy . A reminder to all members,
SDACE does not and will not allow any form of
piracy at meetings or their other functions.
This includes not only software, but
hardware . To quote my parents in my
younger days, "Ignorance of the law is no
excuse." To the seller this means know what
you have before you sell it. To the buyer, it
means know what you are buying .
There will be repercussions to any member
of SDACE who engages in this activity during
meetings of SDACE sponsored events. If you
are in this situation, you may think, big deal,
I don't need you. Veil, SDACE does not need
you as well . SDACE has tried hard to obtain a
meeting place that will allow private and
com-mercial vendor support. Do not let the
few destroy that for all . I don ’t think I need to
go farther into the psychology and economics
of piracy, they have been well discussed.
On to other matters: the 3-bit library is
doing well under the direction of Dave and
ITlarge Becker. They have a GEnie account
and are bringing you the best in public
domain software and texts. The ST library,
likewise, is booming. The monies that come
into the libraries are used to maintain and
add to the collection. This includes buying
new disks and paying for the allocated time
on. GEnie, Extra monies are sent into the
general SDACE fund for use of both groups. So,
support your 3-bit /ST library, and buy a disk .
Let’s talk about the newsletter. Peter is
doing a great job . He has had the usual prob-
lems of time and get-ting board members to
write their articles (sorry Fete) as well as
some unusual problems this year . hot only
should you give him a hand but also take a
little time and write an article. I know we
have many cre-ative people out there, I have
talked to you .
Everyone who wants to learn more about
the ITlagic Sac on the ST, be sure and attend
the ST Workshop on the second Thursday of
the month! It’s for everyone, so bring your
questions, you’ll find someone to answer
Veil, that’s about all 1 have for now. Till
next month. Happy Computing .
Our July meeting was attented by a vocal
group of folks who are interested in firing up
the 3-bit club . Looks like we have the
makings to do just that. Ve have nice
facilities thanks to Paul Voods. Ve have our
own EES thanks to Eddie Voods. Ve have an
excellent librarian couple in the Beckers. Ve
have our own slush fund supported by the
disk of the month. Ve even have our own
8G02IL computer and color TV (not including
the BBS). All we need are organised meetings
and a purpose in life .
Although we covered many ideas at the
July meeting, the fundamental result was we
settled on a course for futyre meetings. First,
our future meetings will begin exactly on
time. Ve will devote 10 minutes to club ad-
ministration, 20 minutes to the librarian and
the disk of the month, and then we will have
1 hour or less on the main theme for tha
tmeeting. Ve have good ideas for themes,
such a3 a live demo on using San Diego BBSs,
security, data bases, mathematics, etc. One
could easily list ten years worth of meeting
themes. Ve will settle on these themes six
months in advance, and publish them in the
newsletter . That way folks who have to
travel far can schedule their attendance ac-
cordingly , After the theme material we will
take a break and then open the meeting up to
general questions, group projects, or specific
help. There will be several computers at
every meeting .
You should receive this newsletter after the
August 3- bit meeting. If all went well, I will
have discussed how to use the joystick ports
to control things. This will be a foundation
for other group projects. I will have a live
demo of this using a 400 connected to a
rowing machine (exercise type). I will doc-
ument this so those of you who missed it can
pick up documentation at future meetings.
You will see this again .
At our September meeting , we will cover
all the necessary facts you must know .
Klodems are cheap, so if you are interested,
this is your meeting. Ve will probably have
meetings every month. Ilo one wanted to
skip any months and that's fine with me. Ve
have too many neat things to try . It is going
to be my pleasure to work with such a
charged up group of people . Vho know3, some
club members might even get interested in
(Please see 8— BIT TALK, page 7)
Is the 8-bit Dead?
Reprinted, from The PACUS Report
(Editor's rote: I am including this
ha I f-humorous ed i tor i a I , whose content I
do not 1Q0& agree wi th, for your infor-
mation. I invite responses to this art-
icle, and will try to print all that I
receive. This article is funny <and no-
il thing but joking conjecture, with respect
to the examp leas sited, so far as I know),
but is indicative of a very serious prob-
lem we as a computer community are facing:
the eventual death of the 8-bit machines,
fly f i re-and-br i ms tone sermon response is
opposite this page. If you disagree (or
agree) with this article, get mad and
write to me care of the club's mailing
address. Incidentally, I don't recommend
putting a Pacman cartridge upside-down
into a 1200XL; damage may result.)
Sure, we've been hearing it for a couple
of years now, "The Atari S-bit machines
are dead." Although Atari denies this.
I've compiled a few interesting facts
(note t said facts, not rumors, which in
the past is all we have had to go on) that
demonstate clearly to me that the 8-bit is
For instance, if you insert a Pacman
cartridge upside down into a 1200XL and
turn it on, "Clyde'' will appear, saying
something that sounds to me like, "I
buried an 8-bit!" Scary, isn't it? There
are many of these hidden clues al I over,
if you just look for them.
One of the latest pieces of software
that Atari has put out for the 8-bits has
been Atari Planetarium. Boot that program
and look at the constel lotion ARA (which,
by the way, means Alter in English) with
the i ines option engaged. Using the stars
as dots and the I ines as dashes, you can
make out, in horse Code, the phrase “8B8
IF", which, of course, means that the 8-
b i ts wou Id be 3 years old if they had
lived. How can you argue with proof like
that? This could not be just an acc-
These hints of the death of the 8-bits
have been coming for quite some time.
Take a look at the cover of Analog *44.
There you will see a picture of what
appears to be an operation being performed
on an Atari ST. And what is found inside,
looking 1 ike a mal ignant tumor, but an
Atari 130XE. Although that is pretty
blatent, there is also a subtitle clue on
that cover. In ye l low, on that cover, are
the names of three articles inside the
magazine for the 8-bits: Arm your Atari,
Ramcopy , and 8-b i t Para llel In ter f ace .
The initials of these article titles are
"A V A R 8 B P I ”, which is an anagram for
"RIP 8-BIT VAR I." How much clearer could
they make it? The 3-bits are not only
dead, but they are glad of it.
Still not convinced? Vou people are
hard to please. Ok, grab your copy of the
Apri I 1987 issue of Antic. Look at the
cover and what do you see? A bunch of IRS
men chasing a bunch of guys carrying
banners that say "130XE." How think, what
does that mean? I said think! That's
right, only two things are inevitable.
Death and Taxes. What at first glance
appears to be a simple "tax- time" issue,
in fact is clear proof that the 3-bits'
time is at an end.
These are a few examples of what you
can find if you only look with an open
mind. But most people don't want to see
these th i ngs , because they don ’ t wan t to
face the facts.
I can't understand why Atari doesn't
just come right out and announce that th
8-b i ts are dead . 1 1 has been proven i .
the past that charades don't work. When
Elvis died in 1963, no one be I i eved the
fat lookalike they got to replace him was
rea I I y Elvis. When the I ooka like died in
1977, no one bothered to try to get a
replacement. When Paul McCartney died in
a car- train accident in the late 60 's the
remaining Beatles denied it, while all the
time giving clues to his death in songs
and on album covers, much I ike the clues
show i ng up f or the A tar i S-b i ts today . We
also know that Andy Kaufman is working for
Atari, but that is another story.
Like I mentioned before, Death and Taxes
are i nev i tab I e . So I ets ra i se or g I ass to
our fa I len friend, and also toast to our
new leader, the ST.
“ fhts King is dead, iong / tvs the
- John B. Sloop
Editorial Response to
"Is the 8-bit Dead?"
Mr, Sloop has brought to light a very
important fact that no one seems to want
to admit: the S-bit SIG has been stag-
nating for the past one and a half to two
years. When the ST uias released in 1985,,
the 8-bit users < myself included) never
dreamed that it would oust the 8-bit as
the #1 Atari computer. Little by little,
as ' ST BBSs appeared, and old haunts like
the now defunct Rick's Place BBS started
supporting the 32-bit computers, S-bit
users seemed to become aware of the fact
that the ST was here to stay . That, at
least, is my story, and when I was
suddenly able to get myself a monochrome
520ST sys tern, I j umped a t the chance ,
forsaking my 8-bit.
Instantly my thinking switched from 3-
bi t mode to ST. I started seeing the old
familiar 800XL in an entirely different
light, I've often regretted selling it,
but my ST hasn't let me down at all. July
marked the one year anniversary of my ST-
ism, and I'm happy I made the change.
But I am wandering. I'm here to talk
about the 3-bits. Little by little, as
the ST gained popularity (it has been out
for three and a half years a I ready; t r me
flies), the 8-bitters, I feel, withdrew.
Many got ST's, or Amiga's, or clones.
Alas, some 3-bits were lain to rest in a
c l ose t or under a bed . 1 1 was as i f the
8-bit had never been, for so many years, a
leading pioneer in home computer tech-
no I ogy .
That the Atari 400 and 300 have, as much
as the Apple II, the PET CBM, and all
those other early computers, helped shape
what one thinks of when they hear the word
"computer" cannot be denied. Back when
the 800 cost oven a grand (about 20 to 25
times it's current market value), and
people first started trying to make it do
more than just play games, things were
different than they are now.
Now, in the aftermath of price wars with
Commodore and Apple, the Atari 8-bits are
a I mos t va I ue I ess . It's true . Peop I e paid
$1080 for an 800 with 16K, and sold it for
$50 with 48K, "B“ ROMs, and GT I A. That’s
not a good investment. And few expect
otherwise of the new machines: ev^n the
ST's are experiencing the same situation,
of people buying, then watching the price
fall. It's grossly unfair.
What happened to the 3-bits? Why did
they fall so eas i I y?
Well, for many reasons. Mainly, a
little thing called the Commodore 64 came
around. Offering good graphics, excellent
sound, and most of all, a comparatively
low pr i ce , the C64 d i d we I I i mmed lately.
It was helped by the successes of the Oic
20 , the f i rs t col or compu ter under $300 ,
and, of course, Willie Shatner. It was
cheap ($595 vs. $1000 for an SOD), offered
lots of memory (64K; although more like
37K after taxes), and most of ali, it was
The rest, of course, is history. Atari
had to I ower the pr i ces o f the 400 and 800
which, compared to the 64, were built like
Cadillacs. They had to put 48K ($300
retail worth of hardware then) in the
800 's. They stopped making money, and be-
gan sinking. Atari tried to come back
with the 1200XL, but as we all know, it
offered nothing new, no more memory than
we already had, poor compatibility, and
nothing really exciting.
As popularity for the 3-bits waned,
so f tware foil owed suit. Pi racy de f ine 1 1 y
played a very, very large part of it (slow
as everyone is to accept the truth and the
guilt), and soon the interest in the 3-
bits was disappearing,
By the time the SOOXL's came out, most
of the damage was done, and Atari had lost
the war. They had done well, put up a
good fight, and had taken a not-so-close
second place. The other losers in the
war, Timex, Texas Instruments, Mattel I,
Coleco, and IBM, all disappeared entirely.
It is a cred i t to the sou I of the 8-b i t
users that they held on, and remained a
force i n the I aw-end compu t i ng field. But
the computer division of Atari was losing
money, and we would had almost surely been
sold or liquidated by now, but for the
acquisition of the Atari Home Computer
division by Jack Trammiel, the wizard who
had made Commodore what it was.
Now, the ST's have put the 3-bits out
even more than the Commodore 64 . 8-b i t
hackers bought new ST's, feeling that the
3-bits were lost causes. The people left
are feeling cheated by the ST's, ( think,
and don't like what's been done tot he 8-
bits. I think that that is fair to say.
With everyone more or less acknowl edg i nq
that the 8-bits, if not dying, were
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17 ways to 3ciII almost any
By Robert Handley
Reprinted from the CIA ROM
1. Don't attend meetings, but if you do,
arrive late .
2. Be sure to leave before the meeting is
3 . llever have anything to say at the
meeting; vail until you get outside ,
4. Vhen at meetings, vote to do everything,
then go home and do nothing .
5. The next day, find fault with officers and
6 . Take no part in the organisation's affairs .
7. Be sure to sit in the back so you can talk
things over with a friend .
8. Get all the organisation will give you, but
don't give the organisation anything back
in return .
9. llever ask anyone to .join the organ
ID. At every opportunity, threaten to resign
and try to get others to do the same .
1 1 . Talk cooperation, but don't cooperate .
12. If asked to help, say you haven't the
13. never read anything pertaining to the
14. never accept an office, as it is easier to
criticize than to do things .
15. If appointed to a committee, never give
any time or service to the committee .
16. If you receive a rewneval notice, ignore
17. Don't do any more than you have to, and
when others use their abilities to help the
cause, howl because the organisation is ru
by a clique .
1040 ST Whine
Reprinted from Bay Area Atari Users' Group newsletter
Does your 1040 whine? When you boot up
do you get the mosquito repellant? If so,
this is for you. It is the official Atari 1040
1040 power supply fix for units with a high-
pitched whine emitting from them . The
problem is the switching power supply
used for the RS-232 port. It is supposed to
switch at around ISkhz, but due to parts
tolerance it sometimes falls lower than
that, the result being an irritating audible
"whine" or "squeal". It has falsely been
described as a "drive whine" and defective
power suppluy modules. The circuitry is
actually on the motherboard. This mod
also cures a video "flutter" which some-
times occurs . Paint horizontal bars float up
and down the screen . If you are not faint of
heart, here are the instructions, for the
note : / do not recommend this
mod if go* are not familiar vith
elec Ironies ! You will be playing with
the power supply, and if done incorrectly,
you could fry your ST! I am providing the
information so the folks who are out of
warranty can do it themselves. Also, some
dealers may not be familiar with the
problem. I do not accept any responsibility
for any permanent mushroom clouds you
may cause. Okay, here goes:
Unplug everything, especially the com-
puter, then take the case off your 1040ST,
Remove the power supply module. It's
pretty straight-forward, as there is a plus
for the wires. Untwist the grounding labs
on the shield and lift the shield off the
printed circuit board. The parts to change
are on the motherboard, beneath where the
power supply was, and to the right of the
How, looking at the 1040 from the front,
here is where the stuff is: R17 is a 1 Ohm
resistor (brown-black) and sit3 below C26
(yes, that is a capacitor!). L4 is the resistor
looking thingy (a moulded coil) to the right
of the IC, a TL497. Its color code is brown-
black-brown. The capacitor C28 is located
(8-BIT TALK, from page 3)
programming in FORTH and I will have
some company. 7C-YA.
Son 122£Iler is a charter member of
SDACE, having been in the club since
it 's formation “itray back ■a r hen A
forth Jtcnkie, he has participated in
the dab since its formation , let 's all
welcome him to the slate, and yi tw
him any and all scrpport and help n-w
can . Sfe can't resurrect the R-bit SI<3
from its gloom y, tired existence
a Zone.: he needs YOUR help .
a-Bit Users, Be To
monda y. September 3rd!
on the left of the IC, next to a larger black
capacitor. Il3 color code is also brown-
black-brown. While these locations should
be accurate, please note that they could,
and may, change at any time in your
machine. It is very important for you to
replace the correct components.
You will need a good soldering iron, solder,
and a de-coldering vacuum bulb-pump,
solder wick or braid . The replacement
parts should have a tolerance of plus or
minus 5&. If not, it's time for the service
center! The only part which is actually
hard to find is the inductor (moulded coil)
L4. The part number 35F1835 and is called a
Deci-Ducloe . They cost around $4 each .
Well, that's about it. Hopefully, after this
point you will power up to a blissful silence
and have saved $$$ to boot ! Good luck ...
(Hole: This modification is to be per-
formed at your own risk. If you're not sure
what you’re doing, don't touch anything.
Get a tech to do it .
A good place to procure parts is G*j f e wc y
Electronics, off of Convoy near Woo Chee
Chong's; Industrial Ligttidaiors, also off
Convoy near Supercuts, across from K-
marl; or, of course, Radio Shaokii
(EDITORIAL , from page 5)
certainly stagnating, the 8-bit sector of
SPACE began to wither ,
I'm talking loo much again: sorry. I'll
shut up soon .
The fact is, the S-bit SIG need3 your
support or it will not be around in any form
whatsoever in a year or so . You 8-bitters
have to face it: fiere vill
bo no 3- bit 313 in SPACE. One way
or the other, the 8- bits will not last forever .
Someday Atari will finally blow the whi3tle,
order everyone our of the water, and
announce the removal of the XE line. On
GEnie, there is a special roundtable for
computers that have been pulled off the
line. It is basically a graveyard, occupied
by TI-99, TS-1000 and TRS-80 users. Some-
day, Atari 8-bit owners may be there .
Vhat you have to ask yauself right now
is, do I want this to happen soon? Do I want
the formal death of the Atari 8-bits to
happen sooner or later?
Hlaybe my words seem harsh or unne-
cessary. I don't think so. The 8- bit SIG is
looking better than it has in the past year,
but it it still headed for destruction if
something is not done .
It's undenyable: support for SDACE from
the 8-bit membership has been terrible .
Support of the newsletter by the 8-bit
membership has been zero . most don't go
to meetings, or call the SDACE 8- bit BBS.
You're showing us that you don't care.
If you own an 8-bit, please, if you do
nothing el3e today, ask yourself the fol-
lowing questions: 1) Do I believe that the 8-
bit3 are beyond hope, 2) Am I ready to
surrender all support from software dev-
elopers and the user groups, and 3) Do I
honestly care, or am I only holding on to
the 8-bit because I can't possibly get a good
price for it, and I can't afford a new
computer anyway ,
I will lay it on the line: BSsSS® 3@ Sb@@©0
In the Beckers and Ron miller, the 8-bit SIG
has its best chance for re.juvination it has
had in two years. The Beckers are pro-
viding a highly successful disk of the
month program, offering low-cost Public
Domain software. $75 was earned at one
meeting! That’s lerriffic! And Ron will get
organisation back into the meetings, will
help get things moving and interesting,
and will provide the 8- bits with something
they have been lacking for the longest
time: leadership. Another fact to face: Re
one has been availa ble in the club who is
willin g to devote himself to the 8-bits . Dave
Delgadillo neither owns nor uses an 8-bit
machine; how can he be expectected to
meet the needs of the of the 8-bit users?
Him and most of the officers in SDACE are
interested in the ST,, not in the 8- bits. I
freely admit it: I am included in that list .
want to help the 8-bitters, I really do, but
I'm not an S-bit owner. That's why it's so
great to see some people actually taking a
stand to dedicate themselves to the 8-bil
SIG and help give it a chance for survival .
So, you 8-bit users have several things
going for you:
1) You have a new Vice Pres-
ident, who will give his all to help
keep the S-bit SIG churning;
2) You have excellent disks of
the month, filled with software,
for a nominal contribution to
3) You have a new meeting
place, which allows vendors
and sales of eq ui pment and
software bu anuone ; and
4 ) You have a recent increase
in support by Atari and other
companies, in the form of some
new titles and hardware releases
The 8-bit SIG does not haw to pass away
in the near future. 8-bitters will have one
last chance to start supporting their club .
Support has gal to increase, or, and I truly
believe this, there will be no S-bit SIG thi3
time next year. I’m talking nothing 1 f
On the line, here i3 what yon need to do if
goir care at all about your 3-bit:
1) GO to meeting s. See the new
meeting place in Rlira mesa. If you can't
even give this much, forget everything .
2) Sup port the Disk of the month .
If you want to increase the 8-bit hardware
in the club, money must be earned by the 8-
bit SIG . Buy a $5 disk and attain that goal .
3) Help me hel p UOU . Write a review of
one of the many pieces of software avail-
able, or any kind of article you can think of'.
I get no support or feedback from any 8-bit
users. I’m no miracle worker, but to be fair,
no one contributes for the ST's either.
Sorry if I offended anyone with this
evangalistic outpouring, but it needed to b
said . I hope you won't let the 8-bit SIG die.
- Peter Payne
rurbo BASIC Compiler Problem
By Jeff Colehour & Dick Hearsey
PUUGET SOUIID ATARI REVS
The nev Turbo BASIC system has been
discussed in many publications and is truly
an outstanding BASIC for the 3-bit Atari, It
is not only much faster than Atari BASIC,
but it also has a compiler that provides an
additional increase in speed for most ap-
A few limitations on the types of EASIC
commands that can be used with the
compiler have been presented, but ve have
found another limitation that might be of
interest to any one vho is considering the
Turbo BASIC Compiler .
The problem has to do with arithmetic
operations on singly or doubly subscripted
variables , The short program below works
correctly when using the Turbo BASIC
intrepreter only, but gives an error when
run in the compiled mode. This is followed
by a simble work around that does work in
the compiled mode.
10 REm TURBO BASIC COIXIFILER
20 REm SUBSCRIPT PROBLEm DERIO
P 30 Dim H1ATC3)
40 mAT (11=1
50 1T1AT £21 = 2
60 mAT £3) = mAT £1) * mAT (2)
70 PRII1T mAT (3)
The result of running this in the compiled
mode is ERROR 9 in LinE 0060: Array or
String Dim error . A fix for this is to change
line 60 and add line 65 as shown below:
60 2 = mAT £11* THAT £21
65 mAT (31 = 2
The limitation i3 apparently that if
arithmetic operations or subscripted
variables are performed on one side of the
operator ' a subscripted variable cannot
appear on the other side. The aritmetic
operation is part of the problem, because a
statement such as mAT (23 = IRATCl) does
not cause an error . Ve have also encount-
ered similiar situations in which no error
message was given but incorrect results
were obtained when running in the
compiled mode. If subscripted variables are
being used it would be advisable to carefully
compare results obtained from the
compiled and interpreted modes. This is
not a serious limitation, since the work
around is fairly easy, but it could require
code modifications to permit use of the
Turbo BASIC compiler . ■
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September 3-bit meeting will be Thursday, September 3rd, (the first Thursday of the
month, qs always), at the new meeting place in mira mesa, at the Voods Clubhouse on
Baywood,near Klira mesa Blvd (see map in the </arn<? I/O Connector or call editor for
directions). ST workshop/magic Sac SIG will be same time and date as the 8-bit meeting, at
Ilorth Park Rec Center , 2719 Howard Ave, in the Adult Room . normal ST SIG meeting will be on
m on day, September 21st, at 6:30, also in the north Park Rec Center, in the Social Room.
mark your calendar!!!