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BOARD OF DIRECTORS...
CHUCK DALY* ,, **., Tel, 673-2149
WILLIAM MATSON .....Tel. 849-0480
BARV TOTH. ., ..Tel. 356-7407
BOB HA M. (BBS) 8B5-Q312
ITALO 5AVAZZI (EDITOR) Tel. 329-9946
MEETINGS. . .
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ARTICLES FOR THE JOURNAL...
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to subiit thei in printed fori, please set your printer
for a 3-1/2 inch wide cclum in condensed type face.
However, as long as your copy is legible, even
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space penits, and according to the editor's judgient of
suitability. Letters to the Editor are also welcote,
Please send Material to: Halo Gavazii; 825 Wilkinson
Ave,; Reno NV 87502 by the tenth of the aonth for
publication during that aonth.
EDITOR COMMENTS. . .
Well, the hot weather is here, and fortunately, my
coiputer is operated froi a nice* cool basement. This
helps to overcoie the suaier lethargy when it coses tue
to produce another newsletter,
However, I aust confess that except for producing
newsletters, ty computer has been rather idle of late.
Chuck Daly recently returned froi an Atari conference
sponsored by several users’ groups in San Jose, CA, If
you're interested in finding out what he learned, please
attend next Saturday’s leeting. He expect Chuck will be
on hand to tell you the latest,
Cris Hanson in her Monthly STSI6 has some very pertinent
co«ents regarding the present state of affairs within
our group, particularly as it relates to the 16-bit
leibers. By default, our board of directors consists
entirely of 8-hit owners. He didn’t plan it that way— it
just happened. But there would be sore vitality within
the group if the 16-bit owners would becoie tore active
and visible. There’s good -support for the 16-bit
Machines, In fact, that’s where tost of the action is
now, But the need for interaction between tethers is
always there, as 5yd Allen points out in his contents
this aonth. Your editor has turned to those people in the
16-bit group who are willing and able to contribute
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articles, namely Cris Hanson and Sy d Allen, Ironically,
both of these people are unable to attend meetings
through no fault of theirs. Are the rest of you 16-bit
owners inarticulate—or are you so busy playing with your
coiputers that you have no tine for the users' group?
As an 8-bit owner— and a die-hard S-bit owner, I sight
add, I can see the hand-writing on the wall, The future
defined in teres of new software belongs to the larger
capacity lachines. The good Atari programmers have
largely shifted over to thei. The advertisers and
software publishers have largely shifted over also. An
article in the Rockford (Illinois) Atari Coeputer Club
Newsletter recently reported a CoapuServe SIEJATARI
Conference. The subject was the future of 8-bit
publishing, and the conference was attended by
representatives frca ANTIC, ANALOG, ATARI JOURNAL, ATARI
EXPLORER, and COMPUTE magazines. The trends aentioned are
quite evident, in spite of the large ousters of B-bit
owners still out there using their aachines.
Nell, I said I’a a die-hard B-bit owner, and so I reiain.
The fact is that I'm still h3ppy with ay present hardware
Other points of view will have to coie fro* other folks.
60DD BUYS . . .
Chuck Daly reports the following bargains: Obtainable
locally— a surge-protected power strip at Costco at a
very low price.
Seen at the San Jose coeputer show— Habba 10 megabyte
hard drive for the B-bit aachines. Includes drive,
controller, and power supply in a nice box for $250.00.
If interested, see Chuck about this. He will tell you
where to obtain it.
SUMMER CES REPORT. . .
(As reported in the July Boise "Bug News" published by
the Atari Boise Users Group. The CES is the Busier
Consumer Electronics Show, held in Chicago in early
First the bad news— it definitely appears that the B-bit
3 1/2" disk drive is down the tubes, primarily due to the
less-than-enthusiastio reaction of third-party software
developers to the sialler foriat. In its place, Atari
plans to introduce the XF551, a true double-density,
two-sided 5 1/4* disk drive said to be nearly three times
faster than the Atari 1050. OSS, developers of DOS 2.0
and COS 2.5, is working on ADOS, a disk operating system
compatible with single, enhanced, and double
density... The long-awaited XEP80 80-column plug-in module
and 5X2X2 1200 baud iodei likewise should be on the
larket in July. “Atar i Writer Plus B0" was being shown.
Keith Ledbetter, author of the various versions of
’Express" public domain terminal software demonstrated a
new version written for the SX212. No word as to whether
the new "Express’ will support the XEP8Q, though. The new
XE Same System was on display. The Same System will
include a joystick, a light-gun, and ROM-based versions
of "Missile Command," "Flight Simulator II" (the I2EK FS2
cartridge combines the program and scenery, which are on
separate disks in the older disk-based versions), and
something called “Bug Hunt. . .Sood news for 8-bitters
interested in desktop publishing. Springboard Software is
in the process of porting its popular "Newsroom" software
over to the Atari 8-bit line. According to cospany
president John Paulson, this is a direct result of Atari
owners asking for support for their machines,.. Other new
B-bit products shown or announced at the Summer CES
include! "Animation Station* from Suncom, a touch tablet
with software; the first authorized computer version of
“Dungeons and Dragons* from SSI; ‘Video Title Shop,*
which creates graphics or text titles for VCR tapes, from
DataSoft; 'Alternate Reality— The Dungeon,* also fro*
DataSoft; "Virtuoso," a music and graphics storyboard
system; and two new titles for the 2600 game machine from
Activision, "Kung Fu Master" and "Comaando,"
ABOUT LIBRARY FILES...
The following explanation relates to the B-bit Library
Files. This is primarily for the benefit of our newer
•embers. Host of this is borrowed directly frna an
article in "Nybbles 1 Bytes," published by the Phoenix,
AZ Combined Atari User Groups.
If you would better understand whit a particular program
in our disk library is, the three letter extender in its
title often will give you a clue to its nature, These
extenders are in general use, and have become quite
These extenders normally indicate the file is written in
the BASIC language. The programs with .BAS and ,SAV are
normally LOADED and RUN or just RUN, However, those with
.LST indicates that they were LISTED instead of SAVED,
which means that they must he ENTERED and then RUN as
follows: ENTER "Ds PROGRAM, LST" then RUN, Files with the
,BXL, .BIE, and .TUR extenders refer to special versions
of the BASIC language. BASIC XL and BASIC XE are products
of O.S.S* Turbobasic is largely in the public domain and
included in our library* These BASIC language versions
/ include special commands that are not understood by
Atari BASIC. Files with .8X1, . EXE, and ,TUR will best be
run with those special BASICS installed. Turbobasic is
compatible with Atari BASIC, and nil 1 run properly if no
special commands have been used.
.OBJ-* BIN-. EXE-. RUN
These extenders refer to programs written in aachinE
language rather than BASIC* They are loaded without
BASIC. Owners of the XL and XE machines must hold down
the OPTION key when powering up. They are usually loaded
from DOS by using the “1“ option.
These are usually programs written in assembly language.
Before they can be run they aust first be 'assembled “•
This requires some knowledge of assembly language and
access to the appropriate assembler (MAC 65 by O.S.S. ,
Atari MACRO Assembler, or the Atari Editor Assembly
cartridge). These programs are also known as source code
programs, and are usually international in nature for the
benefit of assembly language programmers,
Files with this extender indicate that they were written
in the ACTION 1 language, and require the installation of
that language in the computer. ACTION! is an D. S.S.
product. Some programs written in ACTION! have been made
available by computer magazines in a run-time version so
that they will run from DOS with the V option. However,
these will usually have the .EXE extender.
These extenders indicate "text files." They can usually
be run by installing a word-processing program or froi
DOS by using the “COPY - option. The extenders .ATM and
,P?C refer respectively to the word-processors
Atari Writer and PaperClip, and are best run with those
programs since they may include their specific codes.
These extenders denote musical programs, .AMS referring
to the Advanced Music System format. Our library contains
some ,AJ1S files, and these will require a program to
enable them. Usually, this program is on the same disk as
*" files. If not, lock for it on other .AMS disks.
The .FNT extender identifies a file that contains an
alphabet or font to replace the standard Atari character
set. In order to use it, you will require the
installation of a font-loading program. Several programs
will allow the use of special fonts, and recognize the
.FNT extender. Among these are Typesetter and Braphics
The extender .OAT usually indicates a data file intended
to be used with a specific filing program. The data may
be examined, like text files, on the actual disk, but it
is net intended to be RUN.
,m- t DM0
Merely indicates a demonstration program. It oay have
been written in any Atari compatible language, but is
usually on a disk with the enabling prograa.
These extenders denote files that are usually used at the
time the system is being powered up. .SYS is short for
“system'; .AR is short for 'autorun"; .COM is short for
‘command 1 . Programs with these extenders are sometimes
used in connection with special DOS system, but they are
usually intended to be used at power-up or shortly
thereafter, as utilities.
Ne hope that this explanation of the various extenders
commonly used will help you to understand that all files
are not created equal. You will find all of them on our
library program disks. It is our hope that understanding
the differences will greatly help you in using the
SYD ALLEN COMMENTS. . „
In my utopian isolation I'd forgotten the poor feedback
one can expect by mail. Phone calls to dropouts, as you
suggest, even if only/Several f would surely elicit useful
info. The problem is not just ours: in the Nay CURRENT
NOTES the editor discussed the decreasing membership in
the seven Washington D,C. users groups (HXA.C.E.), and
his statements apply word for word to our situation.
Yet HISUG members have much to offer: their personal reac-
tions to the software they have bought, as one example. So
many programs are not reviewed at all, or incompletely
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CHANGING RESOLUTIONS. . .
DATA MANAGER ST. w -
Take DATA MANAGER ST, by Timeworks, for oni* Nicely pack-
aged and having considerable power, it nevertheless has a
few bugs, some awkward implemen tat ions, and a very rigid
address label facility. While the labels can be of any
size, they cannot vary from 3 to 5 lines and still have
information consistently in the correct field, for sort-
ing by field, unless you are willing to have blank lines
on the labels when that field is not used..'n that’s ugly!
Even 03 MASTER tW£, which is not nearly as good in other
ways, closes up the blank spaces in viewing or printing*
DATA MANAGER ST’s manual looks good, yet is not complete.
It is also written i«' a patronizing conversational style;
visualization would have been better aided by command se-
quence lists, 8ut a real kicker comes when you save your
work in a so-called ASCII file; when loaded into 1st Word
it proves to have embedded the codes for light, bold ,
underline , superscript and half line feed! It is all over
the document in the blank spaces; a real pain to keep un-
doing. Anyone know what is going on here?
Would we buy it again? Dunno* * *. Timeworks is supposed to
have a good rep for help and updates, and we might have an
early copy (Reg. No. 270045). I’ve written them.
Anyone bought DB3ENSE ($49 relational database) from Sense
Software? How about AUTOPROGRAM (database, $39 special)
from BRAINSTORM SOFTWARE? What are your experiences?
Changing resolutions through the Set Preferences box will
cause a reboot that loads another set of your accessories
on top of the first, often causing subsequent problems be-
cause your main program now doesn't have enough ram to run
in properly. A solution Is placing in an auto folder the
reboot. prg from the disk in Spring STAR! magazine; this
almost simulates a cold start. It does not work right
under some circumstances; you will have to experiment.
My own style is to arrange files on disks in such a way as
to avoid rez changes with a lot of accessories loaded, i
also have a couple of specially set up disks that create
an effective reset under various circumstances.
Another solution is found on the first PD disk that you
get free when you subscribe to a new, and very good, ST
newspaper: ST Informer, 909 NW Starlite Place, Grants
Pass, OR 97526, $14*95 for 12 issues. The program is ex-
plained in the first issue. There are other exceptional
programs on this first disk, and subsequent disks are very
inexpensive for subscribers. In some ways it looks better
than START, even, depending upon your interests. It is
very much cheaper: hope they can keep up the quality!
You can have reboot. prg in the same auto folder with other
auto-load programs (such as recent ram disks), if you save
it to the folder with an earlier date on the control .acc
clock than when any other *prg is saved to it: the system
addresses the ,prgs in order of when saved, and reboot. prg
must be addressed first* (See COMPUTE! Nov '£&, pp.8-9 for
more info on how the system boots up.) [Syd Allen]
ST MISCELLANY, . -
,,,Has anyone read the FoReM ST BBS/Michtron 2.0 B8S com-
parison in ASTUN? FoReM comes out way ahead in usability,
flexibility and power, and it's the one ASTUN uses There
are other ST BBS programs; anyone know what they are like?
...Want to see ^ late list of all ST regular (not PD) soft
ware? Larry at COMPUTER HOUSE has a copy of the May List
from CURRENT NOTES PD library* 1259 programs, and at 50-
60 new ones each month should be over 1400 by the time
you read this; telephone numbers included so you can call
for literature. . .or Larry may have it. [Syd Allen]
RELINKING AND RIBBON LIFE* * .
We are re-inking only about three times because we are a
little afraid of the hole that breaks through, after only
one re-inking, at the slant weld mark where the ribbon is
melted together to make it endless. No bent pins, but a
growing dimness for two or three letters where the break
goes by. Minor damage shows on other parts of the ribbon
after about 5 re-inkings* How ribbons can be re-inked 50x,
as we have read, we don’t know* [Syd Allen]
3ust another member’s opinion,
Looking hack over the leet couple
or years, I can see what has
happened to the club. I would
like to lay the blame for the
dissalulion in ATARI'S Lap, and
may still* They may have made a
terrific move for their company,
but the user’s groups were right
in the Uneof fire.
Our group became d fvided and no
organization, regardless of tVs
intent, can function well divided.
When folks began changing their
systems to the ST line, there was
a lot of hard feelings on both
sides The dust has settled
somewhat and our group still lies
divided. The eightbUters are
content to remain so, and the
six teen bitters have little
eadership. or so it seems. The
eightbitters are leaving the
s lx teenb liters to fend for
themselves and in my estimation,
rightfully so. Is there anyone
leading the sixteen bitters at the
monthly meetings'? Would it be
of any benefit to use the
newsletter to let the absentee
members know what's happening
at the meetings regarding
Leadersh ip of the ST people?
I am not able to attend the once a
month meetings on Saturday. My
sole information regarding the
club comes from the newsletter.
Most of the ST section is written
by folks who are not able to
attend the meetings- Does the
paper report on happenings at
the meetings? Are there any
minutes of what is being voted
on or demoed? No, but t think it
would better link membership
together if it did- If someone
could tape the meeting, or
scribble something down
regarding happenings, 1 would be
happy to transcribe them into the
As per 9yd Aliens request in the
June issue of the Journal, it
would be nice to see a list of the
membership and who they ere,
maybe with phone numbers
listed amd/OT level of expertise
listed. After all Isn't that what a
user group is for? Helping each
I would like to help, but for me to
be of any value, I would have to
ask the ST peopLe to meet on
another night and it would
probably end up in a different
Location. 1 personally think that
this would divide the group
permanently, and I am not
emxiouB for that to happen. Is
there anyone out there who has
any feedback? Cl know you’re out
there , I sold alol of you your new
systems, and I con also hear you
breath ingt). IF there WAS a
number of ST people who wanted
to meet separately, LET’S HEAR
Would you like to see a
household budget set up on the
ATARI ST in a simple fashion?
Would you like some clues in
solving ‘Space Quest'? Would
you llkelo know more about GFA
Basic? How to enlarge your
mon o ch tom e m on ito r scr een
display? Have your youngster
type in a short story only to
have it talk the whole thing
back? Think of it.»one entire
meeting could be devoted to
connecting five 9T's together to
play ‘Kill A Happy Face’ll
Or is Manson
CLIP ART FOR PUBLISHING
3 have dreamed of this In my
sleep! On the Delphi BBS
there is © program for mono
only ©1 this time that will lake
all the clip art from your
Printmasier Plus disks and
convert them Into a format that
Publishing Partner can use! Oh
Glory Be! And it works!! Take s
gander at the example below:
The Shuttle Pic was converted
from the Art Gallery I disk. The
convert program allows for
three different clip art pictures
to be saved to one file which is
Degas compatible. It saves space
and enables you to go Into your
draw program to enhance it
before importing into PP.
Thanks to Mr. Sol Guber of MO,
for this onef! And YES, 1 was
happy to send him a monetary
thankyou. 3 hope it will
encourage him to continue in his
ST programming efforts.
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