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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Apr 5, 2022 8:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: JULY 69 3/4 Doors, Yes, & Leslie West

July 3/4
DOORS - album SOFT PARADE - July 21
Well, this is by most accounts , their weakest album, if not just plain bad . The problems that surrounded “Waiting For The Sun”, only grew . Grueling touring with not time to write new material, producer Paul Rothschild’s growing tyrannical drive for perfection (cocaine), and Morrison’s alcoholism , his lack of interest in the band, and songwriting, and his own psychological problems . Also some band tensions, with Morrison now wanting the songwriting credits divided, where before they were credited to the group . And, let’s not forget, on March 1st at a concert in Miami, a drunk Morrison, probably exposed himself on stage .The legal issues from this would hang over the band till Morrison’s death .
Not a good time to try to do something new , and creative, which is what they tried with the horns, and strings . This was a fairly original idea when they first started recording in Nov 68, but between that date and it’ release in July 69. “Blood, Swat, & Tears” and others had beat them to the punch . Frankly, it not the horns, & strings , but it’s the SONGWRITING that is the problem . Millage may vary, but for me one third of the albums is bad filler (“Do It”, “Easy Ride”, “Run-in’ Blue”, ) a couple of the tracks passable (“Tell All The People”, “Wishful Sinful” …maybe), and four good Doors songs (“Touch Me”,”Shaman’s Blues” - classic Doors song, underrated, “Wild Child”, and the cobbled together title track, that despite it’s silliness, I can’t not like) . My take, not as horrible as some say, but really uneven .

YES - album - July 25
This , their first album by the prog giant,, doesn’t sound too much like their later records, but it is actually pretty interesting . Not too keyboard centric, more guitar . Notable , are the unusual covers of the Beatles “Every Little Thing”, and the Byrds “I See You” . Some, good , some no so good . In “I See You” (a tough act for me, as I love the Byrds original) ,there was a point with Jon Anderson voice is solo, and I suddenly realized this would have been a great cover for Brazil 66 , with Lani Hall’s souring voice .

Though technically a West solo album, it is usually though of as the first album by the heavy band Mountain . The key ingredients being West, and bass player and vocalist (though he does not sing on this record) Felix Pappalardi, who had produced all Cream’s albums (except the first) .
The heaviest version of a Dylan song I have heard .

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Poster: Dave B 1986 Date: Apr 8, 2022 12:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: JULY 69 3/4 Doors, Yes, & Leslie West

Sorry for not saying this before, but I love these posts. I am too young - I was not around to buy records when these were new. Sometimes I am aware of the bands and albums, sometimes not. I mine these for new listening.

I hope you keep it up, but either way, thanks!

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Poster: capsgd Date: Apr 6, 2022 9:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: JULY 69 3/4 Doors, Yes, & Leslie West

hey Dudley -one of the Doors said a couple thousand people -many had cameras- NOT ONE PICTURE OF AN EXPOSED MORRISON exists -remember he was also fucking young goat/lamb????
they have that picture -but Morrison is SPEAKING about how the crowd are like sheep - ( the crowded auditorium was over- sold, sweaty kids were packed in like sardines.
yes there were sheep-like the people calling out for Jim to expose himself-at many shows he didn't-
and sheep like people who believed the hippie-hating Florida media/cops.

a Doors fan that never listen to the surviving ( 90s)
band members explain Miami

yes Soft Parade sucks -Morrison not wanting to share credits is also wrong - Morrison stated he was uncomfortable with lyric on 'Tell all the people' Follow me down
Can't you see me growing, get your guns
The time has come
To follow me down
Follow me across the sea
Where milky babies seem to be
Molded, flowing revelry
With the one that set them free sounds like Morrison is not only a 'savior' (haha)
but it also says -'get your gun'
another crappy thing about Soft Parade was the lame-o cover
'taking a picture of 'us' semi clever maybe ok as small pic inside

as a 15-16 yr old I loved looking at psychedelic LP covers
(and bead-curtain, black-lite, incense

funny story there 68 I walk into a Ocean city NJ headshop
Desraeli Gears by Cream is playing
I say that great who is it
the spaced hippie either mistakenly or to prank me says-
its the Doors new LP
I go to a record store and I'm handed "Waiting for the Sun"
when I played it -noticing it wasn't what I'd heard -but grew to love
I think acid gave Jim lyrics and booze took them away
wishful sinful and light my fire is Kreiger trying to write like Morrison (some good, some JM didn't want credit for- )
JM needed music rudder
JM never seemed to join in with other bands
( other then the drunk /off key mess in the Hendrix audience )

in early 70s surviving Doors members toured without their 'singer' and found out how much he was missed.

-also inside fold drawing reminded me of the commercial 60s art
that was making 'the Dodge Rebellion' and psychedelic tissue boxes.

reminds of that incredibly stupid line in the 69' Airplane
about being the enemy of 'private property'
so they rented the limo -and cocaine?

also while getting off on a major window acid trip somebodies girlfriend put on YES just awful -it abruptly threw me and 3 friends from the room - later when the air was clear we reentered to put on happy trails by QSM and all was well
afterwards hearing "Roundabout' would flashback that sour feeling-right up there with Lord Such and his heavy friends
doing 'L-O-N-D-O-N'

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Apr 7, 2022 5:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: JULY 69 3/4 Doors, Yes, & Leslie West

Thanks for the comments . The Miami thing is still debated . I suspect something happened, but you are right to point out its not certain exactly what .One thing for certain, it hung over them till the end .
On those two post Jim Doors records, it is sort of sad, Kreiger, who early on had been a decent songwriter, just didn't have it anymore . "Other Voices" has a couple of ok songs, but like a lot of bands from the era, the well had dried up . The next record ,"Full Circle" is best forgotten ...

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Poster: Nomed70 Date: Apr 8, 2022 5:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: JULY 69 3/4 Doors, Yes, & Leslie West

Thanks again for the thought provoking posts.The 'Creative Genius' verses 'Commercial Production' thing is a subject that touches most of the physical worlds creations by humans.
So, is imagining a unique new musical scale and time beat organization which is then used to organize sounds into a just barely endured musical piece better than using a oft repeated and solidly codified blues format to play a song that causes deep emotional feeling? Mondrian was a genius but could have gone from point A to Point E quicker if he didn't need to produce salable materials.
I've notice the early "A-Ha!" idea portion of my own "artiste" sculptures is usually followed by exhilarating production technique discoveries during the early creation portion of production. But making 25 of the same thing turns the process into drudgery.
Imagine the rush you feel the first time the band you're in finally connects and you all fly together. Then go down the road a few years to where someone says, "Again, but this time more cowbell, the mic was too low." And throw in that you notice talent-less hacks with better financed backing being rewarded with public acclaim and payment for what can only be called lackluster performances. My own creative thoughts would be centered elsewhere.
The best music I ever heard was played in a woods once at a random spot by musicians and vocalists who met that one time in that one place and never met again. Should they be forced to go back and play every Friday night at 9?

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Poster: Nomed70 Date: Apr 7, 2022 4:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: JULY 69 3/4 Doors,Yes,Leslie West

Unfortunate about the bad acid. I never encounter sub-par windowpane. By the middle of the 70's most of the original manufacturers were gone and quality control was then hit and miss. The Barrels and Blotter period was often a buyer beware unless you knew the chemist.
My QC procedure was to purchase enough for a while and then have novices do field testing. Looks like you may have been the cop and swallow type.
Nowadays we just wish the often threatened "Flashbacks" would occur. "Please sir, some more mosaic landscapes and floating gold rings! And a bit of universal love?"

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Poster: capsgd Date: Apr 7, 2022 4:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: JULY 69 3/4 Doors,Yes,Leslie West

universal love -wasn't that a spinal tap 60s song?
windowpane -good...
YES's- Roundabout bad song and pesticide

1970-73 orange red yellow and black barrels
the real thing 150-200 mics
see sunshine makers story -SCal Brotherhood
pyramid was a version of windowpane good
blotter 80s-90s mostly what a friend calls disco hits
50 mics?
and I remember/flashback what I know;
when needed.
why just mosaic ?
floating gold rings?
maybe in a pool of mercury
I did know a guy in 71' who spent 8 hrs on acid blowing smoke rings
he said in the stillness of this attic, the rings drifted 10-15 ft
busy being born or busy dying-
"not to die but to be reborn"

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Poster: Nomed70 Date: Apr 6, 2022 4:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: JULY 69 3/4 Doors,Yes,Leslie West

Thanks, I forgot when it was common to meet an unknown friend and hear Yes playing somewhere nearby.
It was nice to follow their music from there on up to Sunhillow.