Grateful Dead Live at Olympic Arena on 1983-10-17
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Little Red Rooster
Friend Of The Devil
My Brother Esau
Hell In A Bucket ->
Touch Of Grey
Samson And Delilah
To Lay Me Down ->
Man Smart (Woman Smarter)
Terrapin Station ->
The Wheel ->
I Need A Miracle ->
Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad ->
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|Little Red Rooster|
|Friend Of The Devil|
|My Brother Esau|
|Hell in a Bucket >|
|Touch of Grey|
|Samson And Delilah|
|To Lay Me Down ->|
|Man Smart (Woman Smarter)|
|Terrapin Station ->|
|The Wheel ->|
|I Need A Miracle ->|
|Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad ->|
MATRIX MIX: 2 SBD/ 1 AUD (About 60%/40%)
Set 1: SBD -> Master Cassette -> Dat -> Sonic Solutions -> CD -> EAC -> FLAC
Set 2: SBD -> Master Cassette -> Reel -> Dat -> CD -> EAC ->
Samplitude v7.02 Professional -> FLAC
(FOB/12th Row) Sennheiser 421 -> Master Cassette (Sony D5) -> Dat -> CD
Patches in "Samson" and "Space"
Edited By Charlie Miller
-- Seamless transition between discs 2 and 3.
(FOB) Sennheiser 441 + (1) Neumann U87 -> Cassette Master (Nakamichi 550) -> Dat (48k)
Dat (Sony R500) -> Sound Devices 744T -> Samplitude Professional v10.02 -> FLAC
All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller
March 24, 2008
(FOB/12th Row) Sennheiser 421 -> Cassette Master -> Dat -> CD (shnid=347) supplies:
Drums (complete track)
-- Recorded By Rob Eaton
-- Dat provided by J.J. Clifton
Thank you to Charlie Miller for the SBD and AUD transfers,
and to Rob Eaton for recording the show.
And thanks to mayormarionbarry for the seed.
Matrix by Hunter Seamons using Final Cut Pro (FLAC>AIFF>Final Cut>WAV>FLAC)
April 3, 2008 Remastered June 24, 2008
1) While there are minor gaps in all sources at various places, there is a three-minute gap in the AUD patch (Sennheiser 421) during Drums, so only the SBD plays for part of Drums.
2) Love the Space in this show, for some reason. Come to think of it, I love this show too.
Remastering Notes (06/24/08):
1) Portions of all songs were re-synced, except Friend of the Devil, Man Smart (Woman Smarter), Drums, and I Need a Miracle.
- 2008-06-28 16:43:35
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- Lake Placid, NY
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- Transferred by
- Hunter Seamons
- Olympic Arena
Subject: What a First Set!
The second set is a bit more hit and miss. Both Terrapin Station and The Wheel suffer from major tonal issues, and Jerry's voice sound winded by the end. Goin' Down the Road > Good Lovin' brings back some of the energy, though it feels a bit too late. It's kind of a shame, since Space is surprisingly melodic; it would have been nice if the songs around it were actually in tune.
As always, Hunter's matrix sets the standard for Grateful Dead "tape" listening. The mix is nothing short of fantastic.
And Hunter's Matrix mix is beautiful. I don't think you can get better sound quality than this with a live dead recording. Deep and detailed soundboard quality with plenty of atmospheric ambiance.
Wish I could've been there. Thanks Hunter! And thanks to the good 'Ol Grateful Dead!! Miss you guys....
Subject: First set on fire by Garcia
Subject: Brother to brother
Hands me a handful of magic, and says enjoy the show. Didn't see him again until the Terrapin before drums. Face melted, shoes nowhere to be found, grinning from ear to ear. Good times...grateful days.
Memorable songs...Sugaree with Jerry tremolos, Funky Brother Esau, soaring Birdsong, Deal with some energy. Touch of Grey set opener. Majestic Terrapin, Wheel comes rollin' out of space, with a fun Miracle>GDTRFB>Good Lovin' rippin until the very end. Expected a Brokedown, but got the Revolution instead, complete with a croaking Jerry.
Subject: Best Sugaree?
JGB 5/20/84 has the best I've ever heard!
Lake Acid is WAAAAY OVERATED IMO! Must have been Olympic size doses going around!
Subject: monster sugaree
Subject: One of My Faves
My 1st time in Lake Placid in the Fall - the leaves were breath taking.
Cops had a Road-Block set up on the Northway before the Lake Placid exit pulling over anyone who looked like us - including me. Went with three other guys, one was planning to be a lawyer and started to give the cops a hard time from the back seat - not a good idea considering our condition and the contents of my trunk!
Got off with a couple of tickets.
Speaking of tickets, the other three guys had them for the show, not me.
Found a nose-bleed ticket but ended up 11th row center - we were all standing on top of the seats and dancing - great time - great show.
Thanks for the music!
Subject: If only ....
Subject: Amazing Sugaree and Friend Of the Devil
Subject: Happy Anniversary PLACID SHOW!
Super Hot Show! The music, the people, the electric environment and the friends I was with.
Subject: Great show
Subject: I always get a bit angry when i see a post....`
I can easily come up with 2 shows from the same tour/year (for the most part) with kick ass setlists that they mailed it in, too much partying before/during show etc. that sucked. Or on the other side of the coin it' like that that famous show they opened up with France. Shitty list, smokin' show!
Subject: LAKE ACID!!!!!
Subject: As good as it gets!
Subject: diggin it bra
started going to see the dead in the early 70's and through it all after then.the dead and the times change and the sounds that race through me now listening here bring me to tears sometimes.happy and sad tears,all the while I wish I could have some visuals to go along with these tunes.
getting on in with the shows review, I dig it,i dig them all.
Aloha,miss you Pat Kelly,i bet your burnin with uncle Jerry!
see you when I'm lookin atchew
Subject: touch of grey comment
Subject: Great recording, great first set, meh second set
3 1/2 stars.
Subject: Just can't help it
Subject: Do You Believe In Miracles!
Subject: Great Show
Anyways this show is great, nice Sugaree, solid sets.
Subject: Touch of Grey???
Subject: Incredible Show and Recording
Subject: Best Sugaree of the '80s...
This show is total gold from Sugaree until To Lay Me Down. From there, it's adequate but just not as compelling as the first 2/3rds.
I think this has got to be the best set 1 from '83 I've heard the boys play; don't overlook Touch and especially that rocket-engine Samson in set 2, either.
Strange to say that Terrapin is the weak link in the chain here, but there it is - Jer gets quite lost lyrically and the show never quite recovers from there. Still in all, this is a great listen.
Subject: I Need More Trix
for more information on the GD matrix series.
Subject: Great show - great matrix
This show is a surprise from 83. I generally think of this era (83-86) as sounding pretty bloated and drunk, but here they don't sound bloated at all (!)
Working a late night and stumbled upon this one - what a great show through and through. I like the energy and the improv is something special.
The Wheel from the 80s is the best IMO, with Brent harmonies and the faster tempo.
Everything's been said, but wanted to add that this is a great show.
I think creativity and adventure in music are far more important than perfection.
Subject: This is a must-have show
5 stars, no question about it.
Subject: Believe it if you need it or leave it if you dare...
The ending jam in Deal is mind boggling, it just keeps going and going. Bird Song is amazing, Sugaree is the best of the 80’s for sure. To Lay Me Down is stunning. What a perfect Dead show, one that leaves the “music” critics scratching their heads. I called these types of Dead shows “for Deadheads only” as the ordinary “music” observers just couldn’t understand how to view this stuff through the looking glass inverted.
knuckleheads who want this music to be the stuff that impresses their high school music teachers are just grasping at straws...the fact that your high school music teacher hates this music is what makes it so damn attractive to me - the inverse of what 99.9999% of people find to be "great music" The Dead tribute bands that I have heard all miss the mark in their obsessive desire to play it correctly as opposed to perfectly - so little energy compared to even the old and feeble Jerry - this is not music that is perfect in the musicologist's eye, this is music that transcends perfection leaving the off-the-bus folks in the wake...and I thank God for that.
This is a show that answers the question: “Why would you see the same band 200 times?”
Subject: The Bus Came By and I got on
Subject: "Just Like A Friend of Mine Used to Say"
FOTD is that babbling brook - as someone wrote slow but not plodding.
Deal is always a great way to end a set. It makes you wonder what is in store for the second set.
I think To Lay me Down is an acoustic song for an intimate setting (like bob's Race is On or On the Road Again). But a brave and well executed choice by Jerry.
I did not forget BirdSong. I had gotten into the GD about a year prior to this show. DNA, but got a tape from friends within a week.
I know there are "better" BirdSongs (Cole Field House '81 for length and earlier acoustic versions). But this one - for me and I hope others - always leaves me in a warm summer day. I used to play the first set so often the following summer - whether hanging outside, painting the house, driving to work, etc... .
I do agree that Revolution was strained - at least on the vocals, but as with Day Job, I could not discredit a show for its encore.
Enjoy and God Bless. Peace.
Subject: Did I miss something?
Subject: AMAZING set
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Subject: Great memories of a great show
While on the side of the highway I saw a dead turtle, I knew it was a sign. I was picked up by some dead heads going to the show and told them about the sighting of the american terrapin. I told them it was an omen that Terrapin Station would be played.
Later that night I was getting ready to head back to Glens Falls and saw the dudes I hitched a ride with. They were jumping up and down screaming "Terrapin"!
Lake Placid is indeed one of the most beautiful places God made on this planet and that show was the most memorable show ever.
Subject: 8mm footage Lake Acid
Subject: incredible show
Having drove across country from NM non stop. Got tix day of the show at the box office. First east coast show. Great new friends, good spot Inside. Does anyone remember the circle around the arena during wheel? Met family that owned my vw bus. All too good. Golden road was divine.
Subject: Bueno senior Garcia!
Subject: tasty sugar eeeee!
For the last 23 years of my life, since my first Dead show, the sound "backdrop" to my life has been filled with the tear drop strains of Jerry's guitar, sometimes in the foreground, always in the background, and always soothing and zen like, a constant peaceful meditation. It is a comfort like few others and cheers me when I am sad, celebrates with me when I am happy. Other songs and bands fill this space from time to time, but nothing can compare to Jerry's unique and beautiful playing. I know many of you feel the same.
Subject: Really Necessary?
Subject: missed it
Subject: Killer Show
Besides all kindsa wonderful escapades I still nostalgically and fondly remember, the actual show was outstanding in person.
The arena was so small, with bare fluorescent fixtures dimly lighting the inner walkway behind the first level of seating.
The Sugaree was so outstanding we were hanging on the edge wondering what would happen next.
To Lay Me Down is a wonderful treat. I love the strength of the Terrapin that seemed to carry Jerry along with it, that power-train.
The highlight though was Wheel, when we held hands in a ring around the arena, singing and dancing on that dimly lit walkway, clearly visible to the band.
Although they arguably play too fast during this period (83-84), I consider the end of the second set just another wild and wonderful, rockin' high energy lovefest.
Subject: finally got this long-requested show
Sweet show, sugaree & Terrapin are worth getting your RCA's out for as is the Terrapin. Love the feel of the long unwound FOTD and raw Bucket. Sounds like Jerry might have a scratch (cigarette-induced or otherwise) in his voice but he does nail (nearly?) all the words.
I agree that late in this game they were accelerating song delivery.
Subject: shining with patient spontaneity
suggesting rhythm that will not forgive me? howling on the meadow forming winds both foul and fair? Despite stumbling lyrics, the Terrapin shines with the patient spontaneity present throughout the show. I Need a Miracle>Goin Down the Road are high energy from everyone, keepin up with Jerry, who finally starts flagging again in Good Lovin, where Bobby's riffing and rhyming takes over and picks it up again. I can just picture a sea of bopping, shimmying heads soaking in the Revolution encore, with one last shining shred by Jerry-------------shooby-doo-wah
and yes, on second listen the Sugaree (at least the first 2/3 of it) definitively cuts the custard.
Subject: sbd 60 aud 40
great show, great set, great sound= :)
Subject: nice matrix
Easily one of the best Sugaree ever and the rest of the show is stellar. The set ending Deal is incredible and set two is a magical mystery tour of the highest order.
This was the tour they brought back St. Stephen and they played some of the best shows of the early '80's on this tour.
Subject: The Reason Why!