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starting right now on "this week" with george stephanopoulos. >> terror in london. >> keep moving! keep moving! >> a van slamming into multiple pedestrians. three suspects killed at the scene. >> it was mass panic. >> people running, screaming. >> the latest on this deadly attack from terry moran in lond. and our exclusive interview with former national security adviser susan rice. plus, showdown. just four days until the blockbuster hearing. james comey going public on capitol hill. >> we will follow the facts wherever they lead. >> did the president pressure him over the russian investigation? and, will
executive prij ledge to stop him from telling all? jonathan karl and dan abrams standing by with the latest reporting. and -- >> i was elected to represent the citizens of pittsburgh not paris. >> the global backlash after trump pulls out of the paris climate accords. the head of the epa and al gore. both here live. from abc news, it's "this week." here now, chief anchor george stephanopoulos. good morning. it has happened again. for the third time in three months, terror has struck at america's closest ally, great britain. this time, on a cool saturday night in london. an attack crude, deadly, impossible to stop. attackers mowed down walkers on the london bridge. then, wearing fake explosive vests, they set out on a stabbing spree killing at least
the killers have not been identified. this come tong heels of the isis-inspired suicide bombing in manchester less than two weeks ago. just ahead of the memorial concert taking place later today. theresa may, defiant. >> but it is time to say enough is enough. everybody needs to go about their lives as they normally would. as a country, our response must be as it has always been, when we have been confronted by violence. we must come together. we must pull together. and united, we will take on and defeat our enemies. >> strong word there is from the prime minister. terry moran on the scene in lond. good morning, terry. we heard the prime minister saying life must go on. she's also saying things are going to have to change. >> reporter: she is, george. that's absolutely right. even while we're seeing
evidence technicians and police activities behind us, still about a block away fwr the scene of the attack, the prime minister is trying to address the shock, sorrow and increasing frustration and even anger. perhaps the most striking thing she said, things must change. she's talking about the law. enhanced resources for security services. to monitor the thousands of people who have fallen into the category of expected extremism. enhanced penalties. sentences. for terrorism offenses andlesser offenses. international agreements to regulate cyberspace. to reduce what she calls the safe spaces for ideology. people can only handle so much. they want action. >> no claim of responsibility. london police have arrested 12 this morning? >> reporter: that's right. in the suburb of
a raid and 12 arrests. that shows that they have -- it seems, identified the attackers and arrested people they think are connected with this attack. we saw the same thing in manchester 12 day ago. after the attack on the ariana grande concert. a series of ares. almost as if the police, for all of the effort, and it's a tremendous effort that the british government puts to keeping people safe here. they're missing cells of people ready and willing to attack. >> one more sign of that defiance you talked about. that concert, ariana grande concert, going forward tonight. >> reporter: that's right. it can't be underestimated. the british people, londoners, in particular they have a hair teenage and history here of dealing with violence, going bahhing to the i.r.a. and world war ii. it's the stiff upper lip. it's not a myth. there's an effort here not to freak out. to keep on and carry on. that was a sin
ii. london can take it. you see people going about their business here. they're determined to get on top of this problem, not let it change what is one of the world's great cities. >> terry moran, thank you very much. president trump tweeting about the attacks. one of the first ones, we need to be smart, vigilant, and tough. we need the courts to give us back our rights. we need the travel ban as an extra level of safety. do you notice we are not having a gun debate right now? that's because they used a truck and knives. the mayor of london says there is no reason to be alarmed. we're joined by susan rice who served as national security adviser and u.n. ambassador under president obama. thank you for joining thus morning. to pick up on the president's last tweet, how alarmed should we be? >> well, george, unfortunately, this is -- something that the people of the united kingdom have suffered now three times in the last three
and it's important to begin by expressing our condolences and say that our thoughts and prayers go out, yet again, to the people of london an the united kingdom. terrorist threats is something we have been dealing with for many, many years in europe, the middle east, and the united states. what is important in these times is to remain ewe fie in unified. to be vigilant. and to know this is a long-term challenge to stamp out terrorism. we're battling isis in syria and iraq. al qaeda in afghanistan. we see threats all over the world. we need to remain very focused on dealing with that threat. but at the same time, we need to recognize that there will be home grown extremists in all of our countries. there is no easy way to
and defeat every single one of them. we have to strengthen our intelligence, our law enforcement. and, work together with critical partners like the united king don. >> you heard the president say the travel ban would bring an extra level of safety. your response? >> well, george, there's no evidence to suggest that by banning muslims or banning muslims from a particular set of six countries that we would make ours here in the united states safer. that's i believe one of the major reasons why the courts thus far have been very skeptical of the travel wan. moreover, i think there's a hvey real risk that by stigmatizing and isolating muslims from particular countries and muslims in general that we alienate the very communities here in the united states whose cooperation we most need to detect and prevent these home grown extremists from being able to
carry out the attacks. we need the cooperation of our muslim communities. the cooperation of all americans. they need to feel valid and part of this challenge that we face together as nation. by stigmatizing a subset of ourselves, or a subset even or foreigners, we make that much more difficult. it's counterproductive. >> in the wake of the man chers attack two week ago, britain was very upset with leaks from the american side. the president is upset with leaks from the intelligence community generally. how serious is this? what can be done about it? >> these leaks are very concerning. we are able to work so closely and effectively with partners like the united kingdom because they trust us and we trust them. and we're able to share for the most part, without concern, that leaks will find their way way into the public domain at a time that compromising the investigation. our shared ability to go after the threat. this is very co
correct to express concern to the president. the president is correct to esz prex his outrage at this. it is incumbent on the administration as well as state and local law enforcement to hold carefully and closely confidential information. >> a tough critique in "the new york times" yesterday. you wrote russia has been a big winner under president trump. how so? >> the united states has been the leader of the world because the world trusts and respects us. because we have an unprecedented network of alliances with close partners that work with us, whether it's to defeat isis, to deal with a threat of an iranian nuclear weapon, or to go after challenges of a new sort like pandemic disease or climate change. we need these partners. when we alienate our western allies, in particular when the president wept to
president has since 1948, that we're committed and remain committed to the defense of our nato partners, he september shock waves through europe and that -- is exactly what vladimir putin wants. putin's interests, as he reaffirmed just on friday is to see nato weakened and ultimately destroyed. when the united states, the most important player in nato, casts doubt about our commitment to at the vital alliance, it undermines our security. it undermines the security of our closest allies. it's a big win for vladimir putin. >> on friday, president putin continued to deny that his count interfe interfered. he said it might have been by patriotic russians. is that as close as we're going to get to an admission? >> i don't know what we'll hear. but frankly, he's
as our intelligence agencies have come together to confirm with high confidence, the russian government, at the highest levels, was behind the unprecedented efforts to meddle in our 2016 presidential election. we need to understand exactly how and why that happened and whether or not there's any evidence to suggest that there were those on the american side who facilitated that. >> should president obama and your team done more earlier to blow the whistle? >> we did blow the whistle as soon as we had a unified assessment from the intelligence agencies about the russian rol.? and on october 7th, the director of national intelligence, with the secretary of homeland security put out an unprecedented statement, very, sr. plain, saying to american people, this interference is happening. and it's happening at the direction of the highest levels of the
think what's unfortunate is that that very important warning got lost in the coverage of other events that transpired. it was indeed later the very same day that the access hollywood video tape came out. more wikileaks came out. and so, i think that it didn't get the attention that it deserved. but, we worked also very closely with our 50 states to ensure that they were aware of the threat and took all the necessary precautions to protect the integrity of our voting system and our voter registration rolls. i think we did what we needed to do. and i'll -- i think it's regrettable that other issues clouded the focus on that very important statement. >> after the election, president obama also sanctioned the russians. took back those compounds in maryland and long
some talk now that the state department of the trump administration considering reversing that. good idea? >> no, george, not a good idea. let's be clear. russia san adversary. they have invaded a sovereign country and annexed part of it in ukraine and crimea. it's not only in cahoots with a regime in syria thats chemical weapons. it's interfered directly and deliberately at the direction of its highest levels of government to interfere in our government. we need to hold russia accountable. president obama rightly imposed strong sanctions in december for the election meddling. those sanctions should remain. russia hasn't changed its behavior. it's just denied and obfuscated and continued to behave badly. there's though reason to ease the sanctions. i think it's time to consider
>> would it have been appropriate for jared kushner to have a back channel during the transfer. your successor suggested there's nothing wrong with it. >> well, think, these reports, if accurate, are concerning. not just because of communication between the trump transition and the russian government. and we do have communications between transition teams and foreign governments. rarely with adversaries like the russians. rarely with the frequency we have seen. what i found most concerning about that report, which, if true is that jared kushner cuttinged to the russian ambassador that they communicate using russian communications in a russian diplomatic facility to hide their conversation from the united states government. that's extraordinary. if not mind-boggling. from the point of view of
i have worked in this field for 25 years. and i have never heard of such a thing. the united states and from one administration to the next, has one government, one president at a time. and we worked very hard to do a professional and effective handoff. a seamless one. we worked very hard in this transition to accomplish that. and, to do so transapparently. th that's the hallmark of what make our democratic system resilient and our ability to endure as a leader and a democratic icon for the world. >> finally, the chairman of the house intelligence community subpoenaed people for requests you may have made. do you have objections for them to comply with the subpoena? >> i don't have any objection to
congressional oversight. that's what they're expected to do. this, i think, is a question now, between the house intelligence committee and the agencies. i think what is unfortunate is that it appears that this request or this subpoena rather, was issued on a unilateral basis, by the chairman, not on a bipartisan basis. i think at this stage with our democracy being challenged and threatened directly by a foreign adversary, it points up the critical importance now more than ever, of our working on a bipartisan basis. and our protecting and advancing our national security interests on a bipartisan basis. >> you're confident those documents will show you did nothing wrong? >> i'm confident that they show that i, like national security advisers before me and other senior officials in positions of resp
department, defense department, or the intelligence community were doing what we needed to do to do our jobs, to protect the american people. to protect classified information. to protect civil liberties, that's what those documents will show. >> few for your time this morning. >> good to be with you, george. former fbi director james comey speaks out for the first time since president obama fired him last month. right after the president fired him, the president told the russian foreign minister that firing comey took the pressure pauch that pressure will be back on thursday morning when comey is front and center at the senate intelligence committee telling his side of the story. about that january dinner with trump. trump denies allegations. but what will comey say in public under oath? we also know that during an oval office meeting in february, trump told his attorney general and vice president to leave the room before discussing the inves dpags. according to
right after the meeting, he said, trump said, i hope you can let this go. on thursday, comey will talk about that. on the day he fired comey, the president wrote that comey said three times he's not under investigation. we dig in with jon karl and dan abrams. looming over this whole thing is whether or not the president and his team will tie to prevent comey and his team from testifying by invoking executive privilege? >> i have talked to several top aides saying there is no plan to do that. it would be a tough case to make legally and politically, it will be a disaster. right now, the -- the opinion inside the west wing is that comey will testify. they'll not try to stop it. >> what is the white house strategy for taking on what is certainly going to be
blockbuster testimony on every network? >> it will be. there is clearly a sense of that here at the white house. but, george, for all of the talk of setting up a big war room in the west wing to deal with this, none of that has been put in place whatsoever. you saw corey lewandowski and david boss yi have been here. neither one of them are anywhere near to coming in. there is not much of a structure in place to have rapid response to comey. i think what you're going to see is an effort to deflect. you're sighing that in the president's response to the london terror attacks. they'll talk about infrastructure week this week. about reviving his plan for an infrastructure bill. there's discuss among the president's aides about possibly taking a trip to london at the end of the week to show solidarity with the people of london against terrorism. that's just in the infancy stage. there's discussion among the president's aides.
memos. any talk of if there are the tapes the president suted he had? >> no indication that those tapes even exist, george. we know that comey's memos exist. we know that in real time, comey wrote those memos to talk about what the discussions were with the president. there's no indication, outside of the tweets from the president several weeks ago, that there are tapes. george, we also know that comey is described by people close to him as angry about the way the president characterized their conversations. again, another indication of joust how block buster this testimony could be. >> thank you, jon. the white house seems to be bowing to reality. any claim of executive privilege very weak. >> very weak. the purpose is to protect confidential communications between the president and
three problems. the u.s. supreme court in the nixon case made it clear you cannot use executive privilege to try to cover up alleged misconduct. number two, is the argument of waiver. it's to longer a confidential communication when the president tweets about it, talks about it in interviews, and as a result, you can't invoke that privilege anymore. number three is that comey is no longer an employee. if he were still working for the government, president trump could instruct him not to testify. he could say, i'm not allowing you to testify. he doesn't have that authority or power over james comey anymore. as a result of those three reasons, it would be a real le weak legal argument to try to invoke. >> some of the reporting on the meetings comey had with the president soupts ominous on its face. i hope you'll let him go on general flynn. that had led some allies to say if comey thought
was doing something wrong, he should have resigned that the time. >> let's distinguish between instructing him to end the investigation and encouraging him. if the president has instructed james comey to thend investigati investigation, it xwould a valid argument. how could he continue? he's being instructed by the president of the united states to end an investigation. how can he in good faith continue to work with this man? comey's position will be, he encouraged me. i felt like i could continue the investigation. i ignored those remarks. i mufd forward. everything changes when comey is fired. before comey's fired, his position is, yeah, he made these comments. i listened. i heard them. i moved on with my investigation. >> does the fact that the special counsel, mueller, is allowing him to testify suggest he's not looking at obstruction? >> no,
this is is two separate tracts. the congressional investigation and mueller's investigation. that doesn't mean comey can't discuss publicly anything about this. but he'll not discuss the details of the russian investigation. he'll not discuss conclusions that his agents had drawn. i think he'll keep it pretty focused on exactly what it is that the president said to him. that's what the president has been talking about publicly. comey's position will be, he talked about it publicly. i'm going to, too. up next, "the roundtable." and later, the president's break from the paris climate accord. scott pruitt and al gore join us live. when this bell rings... ...it starts a chain reaction... ...that's heard throughout the connected business world.
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>> jonah goldberg and katrina vanden heuvel. >> i think there's more evidence that james comey cluded with the russians than the trump campaign, so far. he's the one who acted on -- acted on -- >> go on. >> acted on what he knew to be fake russian intelligence. i think this is going to be a big dustup for the trump administration. once again. it distracted from anything they try to accomplish. but as far as real evidence of any collusion on the campaign's part, we have yet to see any. >> so what do they do about it? >> in their unique and inimitable style, nothing. chaos. they take eat beating. the trump administration seems to run a very small family business. not a large u.s. government. and i makes it very difficult
be small political threats. >> jen, you have been a white house communications director. is there anything they can do? >> this is a week where this is a big moment. democrats have to live up to that. or comey will have to live up to that in some ways. they can try to change the subject. people will pay very close attention to what comey says. this is the first time he's testifying since he was fired. he could come very close to the line of giving more information out there about the obstruction of justice. not a lot they can do. >> he can't really comment on the -- >> not on the underlying investigation. >> so, of course we need an independent investigation into alleged russian hacking and collusion. >> alleged? >> we have a special counsel now. any president cannot be happy to have a special counsel four months into his prez den spip i think democrats are making a
russia all the time. for two reasons. you're distracting from the republicans and donald trump's mean-spirited, predatory agenda. squandering diplomacy. deregulating the economy for the sake of the richest. i think democrats have to have a bold, inclusive, populist agenda. fight on health care. jobs. a different engagement with the world. make sure that the climate issue is to be understood about economics but shafting working people. don't let this overtake it. that's about a party of one that needs to be about proposition. resistance is not enough. building commit call power will demand something. >> i interviewed kellyanne conway on friday. >> i don't want toin voek too
this is a remarkably stupid time to be alive. and, everything in washington. >> as if we have a choice. >> i know. everything in washington is a hot mess right now. i think that, you know, the fact that the trump white house couldn't give anybody to come on here and talk about terrorism is a sign of the disarray that they're in. so their actual attack mode i think, all it does is please the people who are already in donald trump's column. if it's a contest between james comey's credibility and donald trump's, i think comey's brand wins that 10 out of 10 times. what i can't figure out for the life of me is why this white house doesn't want to try to figure out how to persuade people who are not already persuaded. instead, it's constantly a base strategy. >> that is the gig question, alex. hardening up their base. locking in with their base.
first four months. >> no. ordinarily, you would think that would be the republican party's job. will is no republican party or leader. >> trump smashed it. >> he krushd it. there is no democratic party. trump is such a polarizing figure that i don't know that he can reach across the middle in any way. there's an opportunity for somebody to say, hey, let's talk about growth. let's talk about what is over the or risen in the country. there's something better. where is that part of let's make america great again. we're not seeing that. >> the ship has sailed on cooperation with the democrats and the trump administration? >> i think the democrats have their backs up. they feel that trump has not reached out to them. climate change could have been an interesting moment for trump. he's had a mixed record on this over the past. the fact is as a business
said, i'm going to truth tell. this is where growth is and where the opportunity is. democrats would have probably embraced that. he went to the base. a very small political base. democrats back up. progressives are excited out there. it will take a lot to get them back to the table. >> i think we're going to see, donald trump goes out to the world that's become this competitive, transactional realism. he's opened the door for europe to lead on their own. in this country, cities are rising. to do so by investing in jobs. trump, as you know, what did he say when he announced his climate withdrawal? he said i'm standing with the people of pittsburgh but not france. the major of pittsburgh, same day, executive order
with the paris agreement. and pittsburgh will be the first city in this country to power itself on -- >> i thought it was fine for trump to get out of the paris accord. i thought he did it for weird, wrong reasons. >> why should he have done it? >> first of all, the idea that somehow h is this really, vital, important agreement that virtually every country in the world agrees with and all big businesses agree with suggests it's not that onerous or binding. >> it's entirely voluntary. >> that's the point. he says it kous us money. it's a drag on the economy. it's not. it doesn't do much. this idea that somehow america's global leadership is put at risk because of this strikes me as some what ridiculous. we're the largest economy in the world. there's a terror attack, when there's -- russia invades ukraine, the world is not going to stop looking to
the paris accord. >> the president defied the advice of his secretary of starkts national security adviser, apparently his daughter as well. >> and a lot of republicans will be happy about it. they see this as an eco swindle. an eco scam. they see it as a toothless agreement. it imposed real costs on the united states. they see this as battle between nationalism and nation hood. american identity and this mushy globalism that lets a global elite prance around, offer these pretend solutions but impose real costs on working people. >> the republican party is -- >> this demonstrates strength on trumps a part. any time he does that, he wins. >> this republican party is an oil, coal-soaked party. the money -- the money -- the money driving through the republican party, coursing through it, i believe the republican party received
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i believe there's weather. i believe there's change. i believe it goes up and it goes down and i goes up again. but i'm not a believer. we have much bigger problems. >> there was president trump in the presidential campaign. setting the sage for the dramatic decision to commit the paris accords. we're joined by scott pruitt this morning, his epa director. good morning. >> good morning, george. >> is it fair to assume that that is still is the president's belief? >> the president made it clear that the climate changes. thing what needs to be emphasized is that our poe faux kus with respect to the paris accord was the efficacy of the agreement, how it impacts the environment and economy. the president said on thursday that engamement internationally will continue. what paris represents is a bad deal for the country. as such, we need to exit. >> doesn't it matter whether or not the president believes there is
that is the predicate for the entire decision. >> with respect to the paris accord, the focus son to merits of the deal and the demerits of the the deal. the president indicated that engagement by this country internationally is going the to continue. we're part after the nurks nfccnfcc -- we're part of the nfccc. when you look at the years from 2000 to 2014, we have reduced vo2 emissions by 18%. we're leading by example. as i i had kated late last week and the president indicated as well, we're leading with action, not words. you look at paris, what was suppose todd be achieved there, it was very little period it was criticize bid the
left. james hansen. a nasa scientist called it a fake and a fraud. >> why can't the president say whether or not he believed in man-made client change. you speak for the president. do you know what the president believes? >> frankly, george, i think the whole question is an effort to get it off the point of whether paris is good for the country or not. the president has indicated the the climate changes. >> it depends on whether climate change is man made. >> what matters is what you do about it? what matters is hen you look at paris, china and india didn't take any steps while this country did. the environmental left has a short memory. when paris was executed by the country, they criticized the agreement. said it didn't hold china and india accountable. >> i want to move on. very simply, do you -- do you know if president trump still
>> our discussion, george, has been about the agreement. the efficacy of the agreement. we spent the last several weeks talking about the merits and demerits of the paris agreement. he put the u.s. first. >> he received backlash from the business community. 25 businesses signed a litter saying this is not good. they said by expanding markets for innovative clean technologies, the agreement generates jobs and economic growth. the u.s. companies are well positioned to lead in these markets. withdrawing from the agrimt will limit our access to them. >> "the new york times" had an article within the last couple of days that talk about small business celebrating, euphoria, with respect to the president's decision. it's very speculative in my estimation, george, for those multinational companies to say
the exporting of green technology across the globe. what we do know, objectively, is that the paris agreement represented a $2.5 trillion reduction in our gross domestic product over ten years. it impacted up to 400,000 jobs. it makes common sense. that when you take energy sector jobs and say, we're no longer going to produce energy in those sect eers, it will affect the manufacturing base and jobs in the country. we have had over 50,000 coal jobs, mining jobs created. almost 7,000 mining and coal jobs created in the month of may alone. the unemployment vase 4.3%. this president's deregulation agenda is making a substantial impact on the jobs across the country and giving people hope. i will say this. it's rejecting the previous
administration's view that you cannot grow jobs and protect the environment. we have reduced our co2 footprint from 2000 to 2014 by 18%. through innovation and technology. >> the president suggested we could go farther. here's what he said about the agreement. >> it is estimated, it would only produce a 0.2 of one degree. think of that. this much. celsius reduction in global temperature by the year 2100. tiny, tiny amount. >> the authors of the study, the president cited from m.i.t., dispute his interpretation. i want to take a different step. is the president saying he wants to get more carbon reduction than is called for in the agreement? >> i think what he's saying is the cost,
borne by this country, over $2.5 trillion over ten years for a reduction of lez than 0.2 of a degree by 2100 is a bad deal for the country. i know that the m.i.t. study is something that people are pointing to. the global policy the publication that came out near the same time. the heritage studies that focused on the economic impacts. what we do know is inspect the environmental left was as critical of paris as those on the right were. james hansen called it a fake and a fraud. >> mr. pruitt, thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you. and for more on this, we're now joined by al gore. the former vice president.
the chairman of the climate reality project. mr. vice president, thank you for joining us this morning. you heard administrator pruitt. whether or not the president believed in man made climate change doesn't matter. united states is leading by example. >> well, administrator pruitt has a difficult job. the administration comes off as tongue tied and confused about the climate crisis because the truth is still inconvenient for the large carbon blutpolluters. they don't want to stop polluting the atmosphere. it interferes with their business plan. we're kree aing job not the solar industry 17 times faster than other jobs. the number one fastest growing job is wind power technician. the renewable energy sector and the sustainability revolution are the brightest
and prosperity in the country. to the trump isolated the united states with his reckless and indefensible decision. but if he won't lead, the american people will. we're seeing governors and majors and business leaders step forward. >> us do it make that much difference then if the united states pulled out of paris. president bush pulled out of kyoto. >> we lost a lot of time when the u.s. did not join the rest of the world community then. while it is true that we have the sustainability revolution under way, it's exciting. it has the speed of the digital revolution. we're still not changing fast enough. it's not just the scientific community warning us now. it's mother nature. every night on the tv news is like a nature hike through the book of revelation.
missouri just declared an emergency with another one of these historic climate-related downpours. we have had 11 once in a lifetime downpours in ten years in the united states. it's good news that states and cities and businesses are. but we need presidential leadership. we're going to -- since he's not going to lead, the american people are stepping up. >> you spoke to him in trump tower. on the phone in may, as well. what can you tell us about those exchanges and what the president understands about his issue and approach. >> i have honored the commitment to keep those conversations private. i'll tell you nothing would surprise you about them. i presented all the reason is felt and still feel it would be in the best interests of our country to say in the paris agreement. but, the president made the wrong decision in my view. and in the view of
you know, a majority in every one of our 50 states wanted the u.s. to stay in the agreement. a majority of president trump's supporters and voters wanted us to stay in. 70% of the american people. so, it was a -- reckless decision. but, the good news is, we are going to continue moving forward. it would be better if we could move faster. >> you talk about the majority of america. you believe the majority of. s believe in it. we have seen this whole idea that president trump expressed that manmade climate change is a hoax really take hold among a large sector of the public. how do you explain that? >> i don't thing it's true among a large sector of the public. it's definitely true among a -- small sector. and, you know, in tennessee, we have a saying if you see a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be pretty sure it did
similarly, if you see levels of climate denial in the u.s. that are not true anywhere else in the world, you can be pretty sure that didn't happen by itself. "the new york times" this morning traces it in part to the citizens united decision that opened the flood of dark money. a lot of it coming from the carbon polluters to try to use the playbook of the tobacco industry decades ago to try to submerge the truth and put out a false set of alternative facts the. but the american people are beginning to see through this. the overwhelming majority already have. >> and finally, on the whole issue of how this affects our relationship with our allies. you saw the president come back from europe, meeting with the pope, with the french president. with angela merkel, the german president. all of them pressing him hard on this. will there be collateral damage with our allies? >> i'm afraid there will be. it com
president also undermining nato and our relationship with our allies. we're going to face some challenges in the years ahead. the -- the isolation of america from the rest of the world is not in the spinterests of our country. the rest of the world is moving on climate. india just announced within 13 years, 100% of all their cars are going to be electric vehicles. china's reduced emissions four years in a row. we in the united states ought to be leading this revolution. and creating more of the new good jobs here in the united states. >> mr. vice president. thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back.
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