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-- >> these justices during the confirmation hearings, most of them said they considered a woman's right to abortion, they considered roe v. wade precedent. they clearly have proven that precedent does not matter to them. they have proven that they're willing to take away rights that people in this nation have enjoyed.
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even though that decision includes of those words, i take no comfort with them. i find it hard to believe anything, the extreme members of this court say. >> are you concerned about abortion being struck down in congress? a federal ban on abortion in the future, if republicans are supported largely with the overturning of roe v. wade. if they would have the majority of the house and the senate and regain the presidency? >> i'm definitely concerned about that. the hypocritical thing is that this is coming from a party for members of a party who say they are against government intrusion, that they are against government control. yet here they are, pushing to force the government into the most private moments of a
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person's life. someone making the decision, what to do when it comes to their family. people choosing to marry the person they love, people choosing to engage in intimate relations with the person they love. this is government overreach at an extreme. so, i am concerned about something happening at the federal level to create a federal ban, not just on abortion rights, but other rights that we enjoy. that is why i call on congress right now, if you believe in these rights, if you support the right to privacy. the right to control decisions made about your body, then congress needs to act and start introducing bills that would protect these rights going forward. >> why are you running for office? >> the short answer is that i'm running for office because in part of marriage equality, i
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experienced firsthand what it means to make the world a better place. what it means to have a positive impact on our nation. and that is why i am running for office. to keep fighting to make things better. i have to fight for everyone. far too many people in our nation are excluded. far too many people are marginalized. far too many people in our nation are not parts of we the people. the way we change the is by having people who believe in those values, people who believe in human and civil rights. the way we change is by having this people run and by having people who believe in those things, voters voting for those candidates. that is why i am running. have to be part of making things better and far too many elected officials have forgotten that they are public servants. they are not serving the public. they are harming the public. they're not doing things that help create jobs or make constituents' daily lives better. there making things worse for
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others and that is not public service. >> jim obergefell, thank you so much for from all of us. the economic toll of roe's reversal. how bad economically it could get. and can democrats capitalize on the growing anger voters feel over the supreme court ruling? ? trelegy for copd. ♪ birds flyin' high ♪ ♪ you know how i feel ♪ (coughing) ♪ breeze driftin' on by ♪ ♪ you know how i feel ♪ copd may have gotten you here, but you decide what's next. start a new day with trelegy. ♪ ...feelin' good ♪ no once-daily copd medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy.
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♪ wayfair you've got just what i need ♪ in at least nine states, trigger laws have made abortion illegal on friday morning. the in the moment change has a number of women scrambling to find plan numb see. we have more on what happens at his clinic in the moment after trent one roe was overturn. >> >> we see patients from throughout the state of alabama. texas, louisiana, florida. and
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the patients already driving a great distance to get to our clinic. even working the clinic the night before the decision. and we worked until 4:00 or 5:00 in the morning. we saw a patient pull up at 3:30 in the morning. to be seen that morning. >> talk to me about the clinic. what were they saying to you? what was the reaction? >> what do we do? where can we go? what does this mean? some of the patients, we were going to help them. they said no portion of this clinic. alabama it is illegal. >> once we informed them, they
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brought down. these are the people that they really so close they came not to getting the care that they needed. >> several dozen patients already waiting. what was it like in that room? >> it was just raw emotion. everything from people that were upset, angry,. it was a raw spectrum of emotions. and like i said, it was hard for myself and the staff to tell the patients that we would not be able to help them. it was emotional.
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>> support for ovi rate has been the 50% range. connect after the decision with the majority of americans oppose the reversal. we have president of emily's list. we will get to another statin that pole. 48% to 41%
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look at what is happening in their lives, in totality. and, want to make a decision in the ballot box about who was actually standing with their values. who is being extreme in the overreach to criminalize a freedom that women in this country have appreciated for generations. and there is lots of time and i think you will see candidates across the country like governor whitmer take action. >> mitch mcconnell the other day when talking about gun rights and why he was siding with the gun reform legislation, he said it is no secret that republicans are
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doing worse than a woman in the suburbs. stands to reason that it would not cause the help the cause of the republicans. the clear majority of women say they do not support overturning roe v. wade. i want to be devil's advocate here. the conventional is a animate democrats but historically, republicans have been the single issue voters on abortion. >> they have and it has been the biggest driver over the last 25 years, especially, with heightened emphasis and focus on the supreme court, which democrats largely slept through. had no response. had no counterprogramming, nor any counteraction toward efforts by republicans to capture the court. so, it is one of those things that i know some republicans are now looking to see if there is, we have done that.
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now where do we set our sights next? is it on guns? i suspect that justice thomas put that flag up and said, it is going to be things related to the lgbtq community. things related to other cultural issues that are going to be drivers going forward. so it will be interesting to see how this plays out. i would say this. in response to what it looks like for this fall, i think you put your finger on it and that we are in june. the voters don't vote until november. and the polling before roe show that as much as there was concern about democracy, people were concerned about inflation and gas prices more. and giving the republicans at the advantage going into november. now i one of the very few believe that democrats have a good chance to hold the house
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for other reasons, but the reality of it is that this decision on both guns and abortion have reached street the landscape. the question is, to what extent politically that democrats can gain some ground and solidify the hold on the house in november. >> senator chris murphy said that if republicans are able to retake the house and senate, they will pass a federal ban on abortion. do believe that would happen? >> yes. without hesitation. they will have the marker. that they have the house and the senate. >> with a overturn the filibuster to do it? >> absolutely. absolutely because it is in their best interest to do so. that is the difference politically between the parties. republicans say we have the constitution and the filibuster and the traditions and the sanctity of the senate. they do not care about that
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when it is the bottom line of politics and power and the democrats often succumb to that feeling. and it is important, but the politics is what is happening right now in washington. and they're not at the same level of willingness to do that. economist a warning that the economy will pay for the reversal of roe.
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just you, but your state of the country. according to a study, every time an american gives birth already has a child, the income drops by 4%. it is known as the motherhood penalty. some economist a warning that penalty will prod much more than motherhood. so, i know you've been speaking to a lot of economists on this. the cost of overturning roe v. wade across the country. >> many economists and social scientists are telling us the economic consequences of abortion restrictions are devastating for individuals and greater society. according to the institute for women's policy research at the national lever, the cost $105 billion per year because basically it reduces the labor force participation rate, how
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many people are in the workforce. it it affects women between the ages of 15 and 44 and secondly, i wanted to point out, that the people who are seeking an abortion and have to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term are four times likelier to live below the federal poverty level according to the university of california san francisco. in that brief, 150 economists argue that roe is causally connected with women's advancement. and you will remember, is access to abortion rights impacts educational levels as well as future earnings that it is bearing out. the other important financial question is, if the birthing parent is able to travel and if they work for the right company and are seeking an abortion, more individuals that we are
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seeing will use this to rely on the financial support to carry that out. for example, 's sporting goods is saying that they will pay $4000. this long list of companies doing the same thing. not just because of the philosophy as a corporation, but financial and providing these benefits to enhance the workers. it's interesting escape and very urgent comes to the actual economic impact. >> the women who work for those companies of the lucky ones. they're able to access that sort of benefit. >> that is a really lucky thing. you don't get that everywhere
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and you don't get anything a lot of places. so people who might get in certain states, if there is not a social safety net in place for those women and those babies and those families can make it through without falling into poverty. walk us through that side of it. forced to have a baby but offering apsley no safety net for that mother. frankly, even after she has a baby, but in the process. medical care. >> my ears. put your talking about 's sporting goods policy when it applies to employees who were on the insurance policy. i think one of the key facts to understand here is that people seeking abortions are disproportionately poor. and the people who have to
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travel to other states or even more so. >> they lack insurance and the lack benefits. what we have seen in the economic literature is that for this group seeking abortions when they are denied access to abortion services, it has tremendous ramifications for their lives. as one example, there is a prominent study in the economics literature that shows that people who are turned away from abortions have an 80% increase in adverse events. >> across $272,000 to have a child from birth. that is an estimate.
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$272,000. enough that includes paying for college. when you're talking about these children, we heard from amy coney barrett when she was poking holes in her idea, poking holes in the argument >> umm, i hope she didn't say "just" as though that's a throw away decision that people make. what we see in the literature is yes, some people will place children for adoption. what is likely to happen here, at least according to the most recent data we have got, is we are likely to have a large number of people giving birth and parenting who were not financially prepared to do so. yes, there will be some more children placed for adoption, but we're likely to see a very large increase in a particular regions in the country, the deep
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south, midwest, places that are banning abortion, very poor families who did not feel prepared for children, having financial consequences for their families as a result. >> thank you very much for joining us. coming up next, what is joe biden hearing about the united states from the other world leaders at the g7? g7?f. aleve it, and see what's possible. hi. we're zerowater. and we believe everyone deserves the purest tasting water that's why we strive for zero. you see, to some it means nothing. but to us, it means everything. here, take a look. this meter showing triple zeros means our five-stage filter did its job, and that virtually all dissolved solids or tds have been removed.
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we're following breaking news out of ukraine. president volodymyr zelenskyy shared this video of what he said is a russian missile strike in a crowded mall about four hours outside of kyiv. he added the number of victims is impossible to imagine. ukraine's state emergency service is still trying to extinguish those flames you're seeing right there, which covered more than 110,000 square feet. nbc news has not yet
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independently verified any death toll. joe biden is in europe for a pair of summits meant to reassert the u.s. as a global leader of democracy and human rights. the problem is, the trip comes on the heels of the supreme court decision that tripped women of their right to an abortion. some of the other world leaders in attendance have criticized the ruling, calling it a big step backwards. even horrific. joining me now from germany is reporter shannon pettypiece. so what is the president hearing? >> reporter: it's one of these dramatic split screen moments where you have the reverberations of the supreme court ruling playing out back home, yet here the focus has been on ukraine, russia and the global economy. a number of these leaders present put out a strong statement ahead of the meeting around the ruling, supporting abortion rights. the president was asked if the
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supreme court ruling of abortion has come up, and he said no. i will note the president has a press conference on thursday. ly bet you the topic will come up by reporters there. but more widely. i think an important topic how america is viewed by these world leaders. and the question about whether america is really quote unquote back, as joe biden often says. whether the trump years were sort of a blip on the radar, and now there's some level of normalcy that has returned. this ruling certainly indicates that there are a lot of remnants of the trump, america-first style policies still left in american politics, and concerns about what it could mean for 2024 and the potential for republicans to take back the white house, let alone 2022 where they could take back the house and the senate. because so many of these policies these leaders are
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we are coming on the air, everybody, with some big news in washington in particular. the house january 6th committee calling a last-minute public hearing set for less than 24 hours from now, with members saying they will present new evidence and hear testimony from one witness, our team live on the ground with everything that we know. all this hour. the latest in the fight over access to abortion right now. we're following a slew of lawsuits aimed at blocking state bans going into effect, causing place where is the procedure is illegal to be changing by the hour, with new reporting about action the white house is expected to take following the supreme court decision. plus, what the president is now planning to send to ukraine, as russia appears to step up their attacks on the country, inud

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