tv Yasmin Vossoughian Reports MSNBC June 26, 2022 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT
go backwards. and then it did. and now we have got to start all over again. >> i'm fighting for them because i know that if i ever need when i can go get one. this is for the people who don't have the same access that i will be able to have. it is health care. they need it. it's necessary. it's necessary. >> i think it's amazing that you're 17, you're so knowledge about the stuff. you're politically active. do you feel like that is kind of part of being in your generation? there's so many things changing? >> i do, i think that taking the step backwards, we now need my generation, people my age to step up and fight. so that we're not going back in time. it's 2022, we don't need to go back to the 70s. we can't go back. it's time to move forward. there's no moving back. >> what about, you do you know why you're here? >> i think it's important, especially for -- i'm only 13, but it's important for our generation to know that we are women gonna have to deal with this for the rest of your lives.
it's important to be out here and do this. >> so, we're actually gonna take you to some of the states throughout the country that are feeling the heat with some of these trigger laws that are now in place. 26 states in total, by the end of the month it sees a least 30 days or so yo have these laws in place for banning abortion. the country will look different than it does right about now. as we see, i just want to give you a lay of the land right now. before we move on. now, there's this protest that is continuing to grow here. throughout the morning, started a pretty small, as i, said it's really kind of day three of the protests. after the decision was delivered. it's continuing to grow. the signs are continuing to grow. the passion, the, emotion it's continuing to grow throughout the last hour or so as many of you have witnessed ourselves -- as a confrontation happening between women that are for abortion rights versus people that are anti-abortion rights. that type of thing, that type of confrontation, it's going to be continued throughout the day. question is, when it comes to
democrats, and will walk back this way to my location where i've been anchoring from. if you just come with me. the question now is, is this going to be a rallying cry for democrats when it comes to both primaries and eventually the midterm elections? we know there's a lot of heat on the president right now and his reaction, and his action when it comes to codify roe across the board. does he really have the power to do that right now? with the slim majority that he has? we are also talking about g7, as the president is currently overseas. we're gonna turn to this camera. so, we are doing a little bit of a dance, i appreciate your role with me as we're here at this protest. some of the fellow democrats, urging more action from the president as i mentioned. when it comes to fighting these abortion rights. our president monitoring the situation, overseas, from the g7. they get some news on the russian invasion of the ukraine today. we'll have that for you also. this hour, we're talking january six as well. the committee of course upholding bombshell hearings
after bombshell hearings, trump supporters at a rally this weekend don't want to hear any of it. take a look at this. >> january 6th committee, have you been watching? >> no. >> no? >> it's a joke. >> why do you think it's a joke? >> it's because the election is a fraud and they have a perfectly good reason to be there. >> you're saying your history teaches it, how would you teach a class about what happened on january 6th? what would you say? >> i would wait until i know everything. i don't know enough about it to -- i'd would not -- >> are you watching the january 6th hearings? >> i can't. i can't watch something that is not fair. >> so you wouldn't teach anything about today until you knew all the information? but you also watch the january six hearings? >> i'm fed up with it. >> our friends, the good lawyers, we will -- on the trump rally on january 6th, as well as the decision on abortion. you don't miss that conversation. i want to start here, with our
reporting on the ground from where i am outside of the supreme court. the third day of protests, following the decision to ban abortions, to rollback abortion rights i should say, the overturn of roe. mara, talk us through, it i was showing folks the lay of the land out here. you are on the other side of the protest from where i'm standing right now. take me there. >> yasmin, let's initially take you into the crowd here. it is a little bit more vocal now than it was this morning when we were here. i mean let ronna -- me to show you the speakers in the chance that have been going on here. what i want to point out, as i was on the ground on friday when the decision came down. there was a large group here with those that oppose the right to an abortion. they were very celebratory. it was probably a couple hundred people, just on that side of the fence. since then we have not seen nearly as many. you had a few interrupters show up last hour, it was some of
that antagonizing. largely we are seeing wet polling has showed us, the majority of americans don't agree with this supreme court decision. and i was also -- these are the conversations that i've been having. people traveling in from out of state to be here, today, multi general conversation as i saw. a pregnant woman who is concerned about her daughter's rights, what's she has borne. but also moms, they brought their young children here to teach them why it's so important to voice their opinions. i want to hear some of that conversation. >> they're the next generation. i think that our generation is the one that came before it, they didn't talk enough about this. we talked a lot with my boys and them about body boundaries and consent. and what it means to be in control of your body. so boys need to know about this too. and they have opinions, you should ask them to. they picked what they wanted to have written on their sides. >> this one says roof sent me.
>> who are the two roots? >> my grandmother, ruth, and ruth bader ginsburg. >> what is your sign say? >> it says smashed the patriarchy. >> hearing a five year old understand about the vocabulary of smash the patriarchy. mothers bringing their children out to show them what protesting can do. one of them is a lesbian and she fought for the right to marry her wife. she expressed me that the fact that clarence thomas wrote his opinion that he is considering suggesting to remove the right to contraception and gay marriage to be removed. she called it terrifying and disgusting. yasmin? >> i tell you, i saw the family walking out after you interviewed them. the kids were yelling, ice cream! ice cream! the parents that were with him said, you did good. you deserve some ice cream.
they were really cute to see so many kids out here. happy we were able to capture what they had to say. joining me now, former texas state senator, wendy davis, she's also the founding director of deeds -- wendy, thanks for joining us. we appreciated. i can't help but think back to your 13-hour filibuster, almost to the day. nine years ago. of course, the filibuster against a possible 20-week abortion ban in this state of texas. we talked a lot about that historic moment. i can't help but wonder how you are feeling today after the overturn of roe? >> thank you, yes, then for having me. that day we were fighting a 20-week abortion ban. we were also fighting these targeted regulations of abortion providers that would have closed all but five of the 42 clinics in texas. as of today, now, all the clinics across our state are
closed. we see this, of course, state after state after state in the country. it is only going to grow. back then, exactly nine years ago yesterday, we could not really have imagined that this was where we would find ourselves. we have a lot of work to do to make sure that we unwind this horrible precedent. and we put in place state legislatures that are going to restore this right in the meantime. >> let's talk about -- the founding director here, what is your organization doing to get some of that done? >> so, we train high school and college age young woman about how to use their voices. how to organize. one of the things that we are organizing right now around of course is registering voters and turning them out, specifically to express their upset with what is happened on women's reproductive freedoms. we also are raising a fund to
indemnify those individuals and organizations who are helping people to leave non-abortion states and to get the care that they need in states that are allowing abortion. that fund is defend the frontline dot org. it will be used for legal fees or bail funds and other costs that people may incur for the civil and criminal liabilities that are sure to come. >> wendy, i wonder if there's any efforts specifically focusing on victims of sexual assault? i was speaking to a woman earlier today, who was actually raped by her father from the age of four to the age of 16. received an abortion at the age of 16. and he was she was impregnated by her father by incest. she did a lot of activism when it comes to getting women, especially victims of sexual assault, the services that they need whether it is psychological, and or seeking out abortion services. are there any specific services that will be helping these
types of women, especially in these states that may not have any exceptions to their laws? >> that's a good question. it reminds us that there needs to be a connection between a criminal justice system and the health care system that is going to make sure that people who are victimized in the way that this young woman was receive a wraparound service of care. i think that, you know, this is so out of step with but most americans believe that should be happening in an instance where someone is victimized by rape or incest. but it is also important to make the point that there is no such thing as a better abortion or a worse abortion. people should be free to make these decisions about our own bodies, and we should be allowed the full support of our constitutional right to liberty and privacy in order to do that. i know that people across this country right now are energized
around the idea that we can no longer sit silently or take for granted what those rights are going to be for us in the future. not only are we going to need to fight to restore our reproductive freedoms, but we need to fight very hard and very proactively to keep this from happening when it comes to contraceptive care and of course they marriage. >> do you think, when you say take for granted, do you feel as a democratic lawmakers and voters took root for granted? >> i think lawmakers have known this. they have understood that this was the likely of outcome if we could not succeed in winning elections. -- voters, of course, to a lesser extent have understood that. one of the reasons we find ourselves here is not by fault of democrats or democratic voters. it's because we have lost the voting protections that were
once they are to assure that we could have balanced legislatures. extreme gerrymandering another voter restrictions have made it harder and harder for our voices and our values to be reflected in state legislatures and in congressional seats. that issue, more than anything else that we have got to do something about is the one that we really need to put at the top of our priority list. to change. >> wendy davis, thank, you we appreciate it. i don't want to note everybody, as we are continuing this coverage here outside of the supreme court, and as i've been walking around and showing you the protesters as well. i want to note that sometimes we see things on signs that we don't necessarily show normally on national television. some things are explicit. it's an emotional time for people. i just wanna make that note. apologies in advance, or after the fact of course if it offended anybody. we don't mean to do that in any y shape or form. okay, still ahead everybody,
more live coverage from the supreme court. including my conversation with two young mothers. taking on trump supporters of the january 6th hearing, at the good lawyers join us with their latest journey into maga world. >> the january 6th hearings have been going on. how do you watch any of them? >> yes. it's all bullshit. it is crap. >> why do you think? that >> because of -- >> as president biden begins his -- pressure from democrats at home to do more to defend abortion rights. more to defend abortio rights hmm... back to the miro board. dave says “feed it?” and dave feeds it. just then our hero has a breakthrough. "shoot it, camera, shoot a movie!" and so our humble team saves the day by working together.
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$650 prepaid card with a qualifying bundle. president biden germany this week for the g7 summit. the main focus is supporting ukraine and keeping the pressure against russia. on saturday, g7 leaders announced a new ban on russian gold as moscow sanctions widen. the back at the home front, the president has quite the -- senate democrats urging saturday to take quote unquote bold action on abortion rights. row being overturned. biden's executive options are limited, many are looking to him for guidance on how we can -- people across the country can get the information that they need. joining me now from austria's chief white house correspondent, kristen. kristen, it's great to see. you great for you to join us. talk to me about how the president is handling this balancing act happening between the war on ukraine and the pressure at home for him to
take action on abortion. >> this is really an extraordinary split screen, yasmin. you're absolutely right. before president biden left for germany he not only signed that gun legislation into law, but he talked about the supreme court's decision to overturn roe v. wade for a second time in a row, calling it devastating. he was asked if he believes the supreme court is broken. he said he thinks that the court has made a number of terrible decisions. and so he really took aim at this latest move by the supreme court. he also made it quite clear before he left that this is going to be a key focus for him, he called on hhs to make sure that women still have access to things like reproductive needs, the abortion pill as well as contraception. he said that his administration would move to take action against any state that tried to limit a woman's right to travel to get an abortion. so that was his messaging.
and now, of course, he's calling on voters to put candidates in congress who are supporting abortion rights. in terms of what is happening here, yasmin, you're absolutely right. the focus is very different on the world stage. it is about the war in ukraine. building up pressure on russia to essentially withdraw from ukraine, and of course the war is showing no signs of ending anytime soon. just today, as you mentioned at the top president biden and other g7 leaders announced a ban on russian gold. that is significant because it is the second biggest export item in russia, second to oil. it is really underscoring the significance. i think the challenge and the objective of president biden and the other g7 leaders here is to continue to show a united front, when all of those leaders are dealing with so many issues in their respective home countries. not only abortion, of course, at home for president biden, but inflation and that is of course a big mobile -- global issue. >> a lot happening.
, not only there but here as well. first of all, we thank you for bringing that to us. we want to bring in kimberly maguire, the pro abortion rights group, united for reproductive and gender equity. kimberly, thanks for joining us. i know you had a harry situation. you had some police blockades you have to get through. >> you know, it's a wild day in the city. >> it's a wildly in the city. and so is washington d.c. amidst the protest inside the supreme court. we've been telling with that all morning. >> let's talk about accountability. i was just speaking with kristen walker who was in austria. they were meeting with the g7 leaders. a lot of focus is on the president and the democratic party do something, to get something done. how do you harness the energy that we are seeing out here, how to use this as a rallying cry to turn out? >> the great news is, young people across this country are fired up. they are furious. they were furious when the leak happened. they are ready to get out there, they're marching today, they're
in the streets, not just in d.c. but in alabama, in columbus, ohio, in kansas. and so we harnessed this energy by working with young people, particularly young black and brown folks who know how bad abortion bans can be. they will do everything possible, they are at their state capitals today. they will be at the voting booth come november. >> how do you have a united effort? it seems as if, and i could be wrong here, i've been watching kind of these protests dissipate a bit day-by-day. people are going back home. they know the fight is no longer here. the decision has been made for now. the fight is now at the state level, what's happening in everyone's respective states. how do you make that -- how do you make that a united effort? >> the united effort is around fighting for reproductive justice. that's what we've been doing. the fact is that the fight hasn't been in d.c. for a long time. it has been the last 15 years that we have seen over 1000 abortion restrictions passed at the state level. and so, it is united because how people are actually talking to each other. young people in texas are
talking to young people in georgia, and alabama, they're sharing organizing strategies. there could come together under the banner of reproductive justice because that is actually about more than just abortion access, but everything. it's about trans young people, it's about fighting for ability to have children. young people's vision for what we deserve is so much bigger than what this court has to offer us. that is what's bringing people together. >> what about the young vote? i mean, that sometimes the hardest to turn out. the young vote, the black vote, the latino vote. to harness those votes. we need to use that is the momentum. i traveled -- we were seeking out abortions in texas, they went to new mexico, i was within the entire trip. 14 of them were black and brown, i believe, four of them were hispanic. so most of them are black, four were hispanic, and two of them were white. this is going to be a predominately hitting the black and brown communities the most. out to harness their passion and their votes? >> but we know about young people's the last three elections have actually seen record voter turnout, including
in midterms. so young people have been on an upswing now for more than six years. we only expect that to continue. what we also know is that for people 18 to 34, three out of four of them support abortion access. this is not a divisive issue among young people who are voting now and will become a larger and larger proportion of this electorate. >> what have you been doing? give me the abc's? what have you been doing since friday? >> three big things, one is where fighting every place where this is not a foregone conclusion. kansas, we are still fighting. we can still save abortion access in kansas. >> how? >> there's a ballot initiative on the august primary ballot. if we can get young people out to vote to defeat it, kansas will remain an access state. that is number one. number two, we are telling young people what their options are, we are sharing information about self managed abortion with -- for many young people, that will be how they end their pregnancies when the clinics shut down. >> they won't have access to those medicines in certain states? >> people are buying the pills online. people are accessing those
pills. the risk criminalization to doing so, that's no small thing. but the reality is, whatever the courts say, whatever the politicians say, young people are finding ways to obtain abortion pills, and safely and effectively and their own pregnancies. we're getting and people out to vote. we know that young people's voices, young peoples votes, are they are so important for this moment for the full range of issues that people care about. we are at pride festivals, we are knocking on doors, we are texting, we are calling, we are making sure that every single young person knows on election day is so they can get out and make their voice heard. >> kimberly, thanks for hustling. thanks so much. >> coming, up a majority of women who -- are already parents. why is prancing left out of the discussion? i want to talk to today's show writer -- next. today's show writer - next next i'm cologuard. i'm noninvasive... and i detect altered dna in your stool to find 92% of colon cancers... even in early stages. early stages. yep. it's for people 45 plus at average risk for colon cancer,
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this is the ground swell that we need to say, these are our rights, these are our children. we can do something. we have to do something. >> and how do you do something? >> i saw somebody make an analogy, your vegetables, you don't just once. whether it's voting, whether it's protesting, you have to commit to it to have the effect you want. to the good thing once you can't give up because he did it one time. you have to continue doing it. that's what's going to take. it's voting, it's protesting, it's running for something. we're talking about small, local elections, making sure that it supports everything that you do it at every level. the rights we've been fighting for four years for the small things, that's what it takes to get back to a fair the of this country that represents the reality to support abortion. we need to get our system back so that it fairly represent the citizens of this country. >> i want our elected officials to know that we elected them. we voted, we did the right things, we want to the election, we voted. it's your turn now. we elect to do, you have to do something. i'm susan collins and murkowski think that they put people on
the bench -- they rely too, they were duped, whatever. now it's your turn, you have to join with democrats and get rid of the filibuster and you have to codify our rights. you are not impotent. you are elected officials, you can do something. that is a message i would really want people to hear. you are in charge, stop asking us what you're gonna do. you do it. >> let's talk abortion care as a parenting issue. especially with those two mothers in mine. -- making that very case -- telling a big part of that story just through the numbers alone, and share these peace. 60% of patients who had abortions had at least one child -- that's from 43 states. and of those who did not have children at the time there portion, 66% later started a family according to a report by the national abortion federation. i want to bring -- in joining us good to talk to you. talking about some of these. numbers one of the things we're
learning now, a lot of people don't necessarily know, a lot of folks seeking out these abortions are people who already have children at home. -- they have two, three, four children at home. -- what else to defy with these numbers? >> i've been speaking to a lot of parents, really since the lead, but certainly since the decision. as you mentioned, most people don't understand the majority of abortion patients are parents. i spoke to a lot of parents about the decisions. a lot of them share their abortion stories with me. saying there was no way they would be the mother's they are today if they did have access to abortion care. i also spoke to fathers who said they wouldn't have the lives they had today if it wasn't for abortion care. even when they didn't necessarily agree with their partner at the time of the abortion. they felt later on -- the way was able to help them define their families. of course in modern life, there are people who are happy about the decision. they say believes it will actually make the world safer for mothers and babies. but it should be noted that before roe, and the states with
most restrictive antiabortion laws, they had the worst maternal and child health care. there's also studies that show abortion is -- safer than childbirth. and show that one person has denied access to abortion, their children are more likely to -- live in poverty and miss milestones related to their peers. so, some people believe this beneficial for mothers. but that belief is personal. >> i also wanna talk about a conversation we had -- and we haven't really been having, but it's an important one. people ever going ivf. and i wonder -- that you cited by samuel brown, co-director of -- there is the risk of fertility clinics being affected by this ruling in cases where patients have unhealthy pregnancy like -- pregnancy or ectopic pregnancy. how major of a concern is this right now? >> it's definitely a concern among the parents i spoke to just earlier today, about an hour ago. i spoke to two mothers who were there with their four children. all of them were products of ivf. and they were very afraid
thinking about their own experiences. some field ivf and with that would look like. especially where there are potential complications. i also spoke to other parents who are thinking about ivf, but because of the thomas ruling as well, his push to want to look at contraception, lgbtq+ rights, they were talking about not only maybe foregoing ivf, but getting married a soon as possible. >> -- not a conversation we're necessarily having enough of -- but those who have gone through ivf, and they have had to go through situations like that. i'm pretty certain that's concerning in the more shipped of state. the question of whether or not they're gonna have any types of exceptions for the mother's life, for instance. -- always, we thank you for bringing your reporting on this. >> thank. you >> up, next the good liars dual taking on -- tripping up even more trump rules -- >> -- you do have to conceive? >> sure. >> but trump did not concede.
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all the maga patriots in america, we want to thank you for the historic victory for white life in the supreme court yesterday. [applause] >> not sure if that which he meant to. say trump -- miller -- to overturn roe last night. her her campaign manager said she misread. she meant to say right to life. what -- yesterday's rally, where our fans from the good liars. reportedly and giving us an insight into the mind of those at the pro trump rally. >> how do you feel about government telling people what they can and can't do? >> i don't like it at all.
>> the neighboring state is missouri, right? and you have at the overturning of roe v. wade it became illegal to obtain an abortion. >> i seen that. >> the government came in and told them, you, know you are not able to do that anymore. >> yeah, well, you know, the governor to stay out of our business. >> but in that instance, they actually are -- >> i'm sure they. are it is what it is. >> you mention a couple times, to each their own, right? >> it is teach their own. but everybody should have a respect in their own deep -- sense. >> gay people getting married, and the -- women choosing what to do with a body. >> right. >> joining us now with the good liars -- thank you guys both for joining us. where are you, by the way? you should be down here as well. i don't want to be down here on my own. come on, now.
you guys always manage to turn peoples words on them. as you did in both those clips. i'll have you in, and then jason, you as well. kind of this idea that at the trump rallies these folks are saying the government should stick their hand and everything -- and yet when it comes to women's rights, women's choice to have an abortion, or for instance, gay marriage and marriage equality they have different views. >> it seemed like the definition of hypocrisy. like, we don't want the damn telling us what to do. but at the same, time that's what's happening. and they look to reassure people more, as with the seams. like if they had their way, people would lose even more rights. it's just bizarre to hear people say they don't want the government in the business. >> jason, overall the reaction from folks when you talk about the overturn of roe, was it a blanket agreement that that is exactly what's should have happened? despite the fact they think
governments shouldn't be sticking the nose in people's business? >> yeah. a lot of people we talked to were from missouri. and we asked them about roe v. wade, the decision. and they believed it was the right decision. but a lot of them in the same breath said, we also think abortion should be legal in the case of rape and incest. but, then we would tell him that the trigger law that went into effect on friday outlawed abortion even in the case of rape or incest. and a lot of them said, will know, we don't want that. so i think a lot of people do not realize the implications of the overturning of roe v. wade. >> the implications and or the degree to which some of these laws have gone. some of these conservative legislatures have gone. guys, i want to play a little bit more of some of the stuff that you got the other day. much of, it of course, linking also to the january 6th testimonies. >> the videos that people are
really posting of what happened when they were there, they were open inside or should people come in. nancy pelosi completely refused to have the national guard there. >> why would nancy pelosi want a bunch of people to storm the capitol? >> because they wanted to try to impeach trump before he left the office. >> they were certifying the vote for joe biden to become president. why wouldn't they want that to just happen? and joe biden was gonna be president. why bother with this big conspiracy? >> because they don't want him to have another chance. >> it was nancy pelosi who decided not to have -- >> so nancy pelosi said not to have the national guard. there and then the fbi agents decided to raid the capitol? >> it was -- yeah. it was a big fake. >> the actual people that were beating up the cops were fbi agents? been up capitol police officers?
>> i never sign a police officers getting beat up. >> do you think those people should be in trump's circle anymore? at all? people that say the election was not stolen? >> they are being paid from someone. >> you think? so >> absolutely. >> who do you think is paying a bunker trump to say the election isn't stolen? >> ivanka trump said that the election wasn't stolen? well, she is no longer really part of trump. >> okay. [laughs] doesn't even seem to you that they're watching this testimony? do they even care? because it seems as if they're coming up with much of these conspiracy theories out of thin air. -- things we haven't even necessarily heard. we've heard a lot of conspiracy theories here washington d.c., some of that stuff is incredibly new breaking news when it comes to conspiracies. >> yeah, it's interesting. the people that are saying they're not watching the january six hearing are exactly the people who should be watching the january 6th
hearings. because they don't know the facts of what happened on january 6th. we heard from people -- that know trump supporters beat up police officers. -- but as you heard from that gentleman, actually no capitol police were beat up at all. so, we keep hearing that it's all a witch hunt when they heard that word. and again, they called bill barr a rhino. which i guess would make ivanka trump a rhino. we heard a lot of new conspiracy theories on this trip. which is big for us. because we have heard a lot of them in our travels. >> -- i know you spoke with -- i'm gonna go to than just a moment. i just wonder, i'm curious as to whether or not the january 6th -- the folks that you see, and you can weigh in on this, the folks that you guys see at a lot of these trump rallies, are these people that are through and through trump supporters? these are necessarily folks
that are on the fence. that might be influenced by some of what we are hearing in the testimonies? these are people that are through and through trump supporters, no matter what, right? >> yeah, i think so. it's definitely a smaller sample size of the total population that we're getting. but, you, know as jason said, these people are not tuning in. they don't know the facts. they are deciding on tuning in. the couple of people that did say they tuned in and said it was part of something -- and a couple times reminded someone, it was a republican that did not want a bipartisan commission to get to the bottom of this. and they were totally unaware that that happened either. so yes, these are trump supporters through and through. and i think they're sticking to that. and they have all kinds of theories to support it. a lot of them do not make sense. >> so, we know eric wright is obviously infamous for's rhino hunt ad. and i know that you spoke to him as well. let's play all of that and we'll talk together. >> what was really clear about
that was that it was a metaphor. >> it was in a human house. so it was -- you went to like a human house -- >> i think everybody who has a sense of humor recognize the parity. >> i thought it was actually pretty funny. but then i was like, he's going to a human house with a swat team. >> i have to get going. i really appreciate you. >> it seemed a little bit more threatening. >> he certainly didn't have time for you towards the end we start to call him now. >> so sorry. look at the time. >> look at the. time i'm looking at my watch. you can see that it's time for me to go right now. that watch didn't work. you can tell. >> i feel like that probably happens to guys a lot. >> yes, sometimes people have other places to be very suddenly when we start asking our questions. but we ran into him, i don't know, it was something that struck me about that ad. the whole metaphor falls apart.
it's like, you know, we're going to hunt rhinos. it's a very thin metaphor to start with. they break into a human house with guns drawn. that just kind of struck me. whatever metaphor you have going, it's at the window at that point. it's just, we're going to hunt people. that we don't agree with. so it's kind of cool to run into him and get to talk to him about it. and then he had summer to be. >> he had to run off because he has somewhere to be. exactly right. especially in this climate, i have to say, then on the road so much over the last month and a half because of what we've been dealing with in this country from the mass shooting in buffalo to of course, uvalde texas. and then, if you see an ad like that one. it's not necessarily -- and the lightest way of saying it, the best taste considering all that we're dealing with in this country right now when it comes to gun violence. as always, my friends, stay -- thank you both for -- after the break, the struggle
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supreme court overturned roe. nine states are -- no statewide as far as oklahoma, which passed the most extreme restrictions on the procedure of any state in the country. and where reproductive rights after gets are now on the front line at the challenging fight ahead. this is an abortion provider in oklahoma new jersey. co-chair of the committee to protect health care and reproductive freedoms task force. thanks for joining us. i just want to get your visceral reaction to the overturn of roe on friday. >> i mean, the first feeling is devastated. as a person who's been a part of this movement, and the fight in oklahoma, it's not that we weren't surprised that it happened it stress that no matter how much you plan, when it finally gets overturned, it's just devastating. it's heartbreaking because in your mind, the first thing that comes is every patient that you sat across from in oklahoma that hasn't been served, the
stories we're now hearing since oklahoma banned abortion about the various and access issues that are patients are having, and having to drive up to kansas to get care and the lying that care. you know, you to start thinking about all the people that you're taking care of. >> let's talk more about that. i was basically going to ask you what the access is, the options for women in this state of oklahoma, how far they have to go, are there funds that can help them, travel? help direct them to other clinics that will help them out? >> yeah, so at this point people in oklahoma are traveling to kansas, and also many people from texas who originally being taken care of in oklahoma, i was in care of a large population of texas people starting back in september. they're all going to kansas. what people can do, you can donate to the abortion funds. those funds are now not only
helping people to pay for the actual procedure, or the pills themselves, but they're also helping people travel. so the money is going to recreate to the patients, to get them that care that they need. >> but are you worried about, medically? for women right now in the state of oklahoma? >> right, i am worried about all of my patients that have the ability to get pregnant. all of them, i'm worried about what these delays are going to cost. being pregnant, especially for some people, it's actually very problematic. there is illnesses that can make it impossible for them to stop vomiting, we can make it hard for them to work or do school or take care of their children. i'm worried about them getting sick, i'm worried about the mental health issues that come with having an undesired pregnancy that you can't access abortion for. i'm worried about the increase in domestic violence that we see among people who are pregnant. and now, if you have to stay pregnant for longer to save up for the trip across state lines
to find childcare, or things like that, your delaying the care. you're spending more time pregnant. it means that you are going to be having a later abortion later in the pregnancy. and all of these things are going to make procedure is more expensive and take longer, and those ar burdens that only the patients are going to be bearing. >> let me ask you -- this >> sorry -- >> please continue -- >> i think it's going to affect maternal mortality rates, maternal morbidity rates. i think we're going to see more people who are pregnant be sick or, even if they do decide to continue that pregnancy. we're going to see people who have dangerous complications of pregnancy, like on a topic of pregnancy and -- pregnancies and stuff like that, unable to access the care they need. we might even see people who are experiencing a miscarriage unable to get the medical treatment that they need for fear of retribution. >> quickly, who are the types of women that you're treating? they have the resources to travel outside of the state to
seek out services? >> -- many of the people i take care of do not have the resources to travel far, many of them are going to be driving, many of them need help, need resources from abortion funds to the able to not just travel but also to find housing on the way and to cover childcare while they're there. majority of the people who are accessing abortion care already have children. >> doctor, thank you, we appreciate it. we'll be right back everybody. appreciate it. we'll be right back everybody. we'll be right back everybody. ugh, i thought she was actually gonna jump. just use this code and order on the subway app!
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we've been here for the last couple of days, just wrapping up our show here. we appreciate you watching our broadcast. we were here on the ground, obviously, when the opinion first leaked. there was a lot of momentum on the ground. a lot of folks. helping some of that momentum -- we were hoping would change it. people are continuing the momentum on the streets as we wrap up this day. you see people still protesting. the group has been growing bigger throughout the day. there certainly has been some confrontation throughout the day. there's some jubilation, some celebration, celebration of personal stories of so many have been sharing throughout the day. this evening, as, well outside the supreme court, is gonna be a 9 pm vigil to honor, of course, and support the right for women to obtain a safe abortion here in this country. it seems as if from here these fights will be going to the states, the local level, in order to figure, out especially in some of these more conservative states, what
exceptions will in fact apply. and if something can be done. and of course, the pressure will remain on washington, on the biden administration. both the republicans and democrats to get something over the finish line. specifically democrats to codify roe eventually. we're gonna have to wait to see how this plays out -- politically. we're gonna be watching this on the ground. we appreciate you joining us, throughout the last couple of hours. i'm gonna toss it over now to my friend simone sanders. toss it over now t my friend simone sanders greetings. you are watching. now that roe v. wade has been overturned, states are not wasting any time snatching away peoples decision making powers about their own bodies. this is the beginning, y'all. we are talking to people on the front lines of the battle against them. how will those trigger laws beyond force from state to state? especially when the governor's office and state legislatures are not on the same page. we are asking wisconsin's lieutenant governor, mandela barnes l