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you happen to be a dog. good to be with you. i'm chris jansing in new york. we come on the air this hour with a brand new information about yet another mass shooting as well as the president's response. we learned in the last hour president biden is going to give a rare prime time address. the topic, gun violence, at 7:30 eastern tonight following the 233rd mass shooting this year in the u.s. in tulsa, 0 oklahoma. a gunman killing four, two doctors, a receptionist and a
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patient. just in the past hour officials told reporters the shooter bought an ar-15 style weapon a few hours before going into the hospital and found a letter making clear he came in to kill a specific doctor for pain after a back surgery. the mayor detailing the horror of minutes. >> i spoke with an officer yesterday who's a seasoned veteran of the department and he was one of the first people to get here. and he said, mayor, it was like the beaches of normandy out there. everywhere i looked to my left and right officers jumping over bushes. >> getting there police say it was a catastrophic scene. yet again amping up the pressure on the white house and president biden. will it move congress to action? democrat chris murphy driving
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gun legislation talks in the senate right now was asked about the chances to get something done today on "morning joe," specifically ten republican votes in the senate. >> i cannot say i'm confident. i'm confident in the negotiators and the question then is are there enough votes in the senate to get this passed. i don't know yet. we're on recess. we have been working around the clock this week but we have to get to washington next week to see if there's enough votes on the republican side to get this done. >> ahead we'll get an update with democrat chris coons of delaware. all leading to a big question. whether the polls that show a major majority of americans back gun reform will move the needle in the november midterms or the baby formula shortage? especially after the president,
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his staff and manufacturers appeared to contradict each other. or maybe the november elections will be about rising prices that every american family is seeing. we broke the record for high gas prices again today. let's start with the breaking news. president biden's planned prime time address. mike memoli was the first reporter to break the story. what do we know about how it came together? do we have an idea what the president plans to say? >> reporter: chris, there have been two questions around the white house in the weak of the horrible shooting in uvalde, texas. will the president give executive actions? secondly, how much will the president lend his voice? will he be involved with the negotiations on capitol hill about a legislative solution to
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this? now the answer in the form of the announcement from the white house. the president delivering remarks to the american people on the incidents of gun violence and to urge common sense actions on capitol hill to deal with this. it's clear as we have seen the president have to deal with gun incidents and made calls for this kind of legislation that unfortunate shooting in texas. 19 innocent children, 2 teachers galvanized the country in a way we haven't seen since 2012. it was vice president joe biden asked by president obama to take the lead to try to find expectative actions, solutions to try to remedy this with an effort on capitol hill to do the same. now president biden who as press secretary jean-pierre said has
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done more than any other president why now urging congress to do the same. it's interesting to see a question is whether a speech like this helps or hurt it is sensitive negotiations on capitol hill. the white house has been involved at a staff level in the discussions and clearly the night returning to washington he asked where's the backbone and a moment that the white house feels is fit for the president to really raise the stakes to speak dreckly to the american people about what he called an intolerable situation for the country. >> thank you. we'll see you back here this hour. we mentioned 233 mass shootings just this year just in the united states. so let's go to tulsa and that update from investigators that just wrapped up in the past hour. blayne alexander is live for us.
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this was a detailed and harrowing account. we learned. tell us the timeline and what else you can tell us. >> reporter: we really are getting a stunning picture of what unfolded here yesterday afternoon. we heard from police officials speaking candidly talking about the fact that this was a targeted shooting. an individual had back surgery from dr. preston phillips on the campus of st. francis and blamed him for the subsequent back pain. calling the office a number of times. i said was the doctor response i? they said absolutely. he saw the doctor the day before and said he was in pain and still blamed the doctor. a couple stunning details to come out of this. we thauns the two weapons that were used this crime were purchased within the week. the rifle, the ar-125 still
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rifle purchased a couple hours before the shooting. one at a gun store and one at a pawnshop. this individual had a letter on him essentially spelling out the reason armed with two guns and to shoot and target and kill the doctor but quote anybody else who stood in his way. the police officer or the chief said that's exactly what happened. there were a total of four people killed. one is the doctor that performed that surgery and another doctor with a receptionist and another patient and the chief said they were in some way in that gunman's way. one of the victims was holding the door so that somebody else could escape. that person holding the door was shot and killed. this is a picture of what unfolded and police said they're not done with the investigation
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yet. >> hearing stories of heroism. it is tragic that they lost their lives. thank you. we have details of what the mayor in uvalde was doing. he said that he rushed to the aesh yeah and then says he stayed with an official. didn't name them but called them the negotiator to reach the gunman from a funeral home across the street. here's what the mayor told telemundo. >> i am not law enforcement. the only person i had communication when the noerkt or the trying to get the shooter on the phone. wouldn't answer. tried every number they could find. >> but that -- >> nbc's priscilla thompson is on the ground in uvalde. i want to the former nypd commissioner.
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starting with the sound from the mayor, i wonder in a situation is negotiation a prime priority or given the fact that we know there's firing going on and given the fact of calls to 911 where there was clearly an active shooter what role would a negotiator play? >> i think it speaks to the chaotic nature out e rent. you want to have command and starts at the top with an incident commander and why training is so important. when a tool in the tool box for that day would have to be a negotiator respond to the scene, have them available if the circumstances dictate that the use is prudent. as you said in a case like this with the violence that's imminent and ongoing that's not
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one where a negotiator typically would be used. we have a preplanned horrible premeditated incident where they're coming with tactical gear, bullet-proof vests, streaming it. the likelihood of a person willing to negotiate with the negotiator is small in a situation like this but from the law enforcement perspective you have to be ready if that's something to do. >> when we heard the tulsa police officials talking today it was a stark contrast to ufltd. tulsa police chief asked if the officers didn't go in as quickly as they did would the gunman kept firing. here's what he said. >> in our mind set we believe we have to stop the threat and immediately and time is of the
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essence and so we are trained to go in there and stop the threat. regardless of what may happen to us. >> regardless of what may happen to us. we are trained to go in and respond to the threat. looking back on those two shootings back to back is it in many ways a textbook for police around the country an affirmation for why the training is a certain way? you go in, neutralize the shooter? >> the tragedy of this is is this is something to see more and more and common across the country and this is become part and parcel with law enforcement textbook training across the country unfortunately. not something that you saw with the prevalence that you see it today where people armed to the teeth going into the locations with one thing in mind so because of that law enforcement has changed their mind set of
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surround, put up perimeters. they know that the number one thing to do is address the threat. >> priscilla, in uvalde today more visitations and memorials why what is the latest and progress of piecing together the response to the shooter that day? >> reporter: yeah. chris, today the lives of three students are being remembered. also visitations being held for several of the classmates today and those vf services happening not far from here as people continue to gather at the memorial to grieve. the superintendent is expected to provide an update with new
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information to share about the invest and that of course as there are many questions about what exactly happened here just this week alone we have received new information contradicted what was said about whether or not a door propped open by a teacher. it did not lock. of course questions about the level of cooperation that the police chief, the school police chief is providing with department of public safety officials saying he did not respobd to the interview requests. the police chooef saying he is in touch every day. a lot of unanswered questions but the other thing that the state senator is talking about and started off speaking off today is the special legislative committee that the governor and lieutenant governor convened. that committee has 11 senators,
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state senators on it. eight republicans, three democrats. state senator gutierrez not on the list calling this committee meaningless and a slap in the face. chris? >> priscilla, thank you both. mass shootings often get all the attention but children are shot in the united states every day. sandy hook promise notes that each day 12 children die from gun violence in america. another 32 are shot and injured. one of those victims to know about is 12-year-old adrian hawkins mcdougalls shot and killed in jackson, mississippi, hours after the sixth grade graduation. he was walking with an older brother to a grand mother's house for batteries. adrian died on the sidewalk. his brother was also shot and
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survived. their mother just moved out of jackson for safety a few weeks ago saying she would hear gunshots daily. they were back in town for the graduation. the grandmother said he would end conversation with quote i love you, be safe. so what do we do to solve the problems? how do we fix it or try? we'll head to capitol hill for new reporting on the state of noirksings monothe key group of senators and what kind of framework could win over republicans? i'll ask senator chris coons next. later, the big platinum jubilee from carriages to corgis to the fly by. fit for a queen. we're live in london with the late ets on celebrations marking elizabeth's 70 years on the throne.
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we are getting new details about what's being discussed in the bipartisan negotiations on gun reform in the senate. here's what senator chris murphy leading the charge told "morning joe" about the conversations of assault weapons. >> we are having a conversation about what to do about the fact that a lot of 18 to 21-year-olds are getting the hands on the complicated weapons. so i can't tell you yet whether we'll have an agreement there. >> a source tells nbc news senate negotiators have a framework for gun legislation. joining me is senator chris coons democrat from delaware. thank you. the senator said he cannot say he's confident the votes are there to pass a plan. you have been a skeptic in the past. this is a bad day for anything even vaguely looking like hope or optimism around legislative
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process or progress. i usually want to be optimistic but i don't think it will change. a week later, with chris murphy, are you more optimistic? >> oif had a series of conversations with colleagues, democrats and republicans, i am more optimistic today. senator chris murphy of connecticut is a great leader of this cause and senator jon cornyn of texas is engaging. there's different ideas being exchanged between small groups of senators. any one of the ideas would make some progress in terms of making the country safer and helping us make it harder for folks to do harm to others get the hands on guns in particular prevent things like what tragically happened in uvalde or sandy hook or parkland.
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other senators have been championing a red flag law or an emergency risk protection order that with due process protectionings would police allow guns for a period of time after they made threats or engaged in publicly disturbing threatening behavior. that's seriously discussed and because of the fact pattern i think is getting serious consideration. raising the age at which a 18-year-old can walk into a gun store and buy an ar-18 is something that deserves serious discussion. senators manchin and toomey after sandy hook worked hard to bring forward a strengthening of the background check and the ideas they have is positive. so chris, my short answer would be yes. a week later i am more
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optimistic but very difficult to get ten republican senators to come to the table own to work with the bipartisan group that is going to try and get legislation to president biden's desk. >> let me ask you questions about how we get there and start with tonight. the president decided to do this prime tie address. americans support what you talk about from background checks down to limiting the ar-15 style rifles. is there something that you think the president can say to sway members not just of the public that are with him on this largely but members of congress making that connection somehow? what can he say tonight to move the needle? is that unrealistic? >> we can't expect that the president alone will change the political reality on the ground that in far too many states you have folks who are resistance to the idea of making significant
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investments in mental health and tying that to making it harder to access a weapon for those with a conviction or a background to prohibit them. i think president biden's focus ab attention on this is positive. i think his long history of engainment as a senator, vice president and now president are important and the way in which he went to uvalde and witnessed to or comforted the parents who had lost children and present with that community gives him another stage of credibility that comes with having been a compassionate public leader in our community and country for decades but at the end of the day members of the senate in which he served for 36 years have to make hard choices to put the constituents ahead of a voting record or a partisan interest. i am encouraged that senator
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cornyn is at the table with senator murphy and the preliminary conversations have been positive. it's great that president biden will remind the american people of the human cost. chris, you put up a graphic that reminded us that while what gets the attention is the mass casualty incidents that every single day handguns in particular take the lives of children as many as a dozen a day all over the united states. there have to be more ways to improve gun safety, address community mental health and make the country one that value it is lives of the children. >> yesterday i had the mayor of buffalo on talking about a congressman on the buffalo city council who has done a complete turn around on the position on
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guns after what happened in buffalo, after that racist shooting. but he also said the reality is he'll probably get primaried now. the nra will support somebody to run against him. how do you fight back against that reality? is there a way to address it? >> the whole underlying premise of democracy is that reality changes when more people in the district in buffalo come forward to say we're proud of you. following this horrific shooting we too want to come out and support someone who is willing to be brave and change to reform. >> appreciate your time today. thank you. >> thank you. coming up, president biden announcing a new shipment of baby formula on the way to the u.s. why there's new controversy about that shortage.
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more breaking news this hour. just last few minutes bill barr was spotted leaving a conference room used by the january 6 commit tee. he did not respond to comments to talk to a pool camera there. the committee's public hearings start a week from today on june 9. also today word from the white house that more help is on the way to ease that baby formula shortage. president biden says new shipments of the imported formula should be available in target stores in the coming weeks but new questions is raised about why the president didn't know about the crisis until months after the staff said they were working on it. >> i became aware of the problem sometime in -- after april -- in early april about how intense it was. and so we did everything in our power from that point on and all i can tell you right now and we'll continue to do it until we get the job done.
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>> april for the president but baby formula executives meeting with biden yesterday said they knew after the factory shut down in february how bad the shortage could get. joining me now is mike memoli and then the press secretary as you know said the white house had been working on this for months. where is the disconnect? >> reporter: i think what yesterday's event at the white house really brought to life is that great reporting from my colleagues in the white house unit about the frustration the president felt about the messaging at the white house and the fact that he should have been informed sooner about the infabt formula crisis because we saw the president asking these ceos invited to participate if they knew immediately that this shutdown of an abbott factory in michigan would cry yate the supply crisis that we have seen and to a person each said we knew it would be a serious moment and i think the president
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revealing the frustration that he was not informed sooner. every white house has to deal with so many different challenges competing for time and attention how are decisions made to elevate for action and as much as the white house is trying to make it clear that they are on top of it. in the months proceeding when the president himself informed about the crisis to head it off and take action sooner and an event to show the white house is on top of it but deepened the questions and whether they should have done more sooner. >> let's bring in cornell. for democrats talked to they're concerned and raises questions
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of competence. >> to a certain extent the president's being asked to deal with a lot of things that quite frankly that the president doesn't have control over. even if you look at inflation -- >> let's be fair. the point of having that yesterday was to say i do have some control and can help make it better if not completely fix it. was something missed if his staff knew about it but he didn't know about it? he wasn't told about it for a couple months. >> i'll stick to the original point. yes. as the president rightfully -- this president rightfully takes is the buck stops with him. if something goes wrong he takes responsibility for it. when have we had a president responsible for baby formula? looking at inflation and the public blaming inflation for, we
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have had this conversation before. there's not a lot the president can do with the international events driving inflation. the president has to take responsibility for it trying to fix it and then pivot and put out a vision. >> so let's talk about that vision because is there any doubt in your mind that these are the things whether it's the shortage of formula, today's record gas prices again and going to the grocery store, ultimately that is what americans are going to vote on no matter how much is under the president's control. >> yes and no. that's kind of myopic. the economy is always a top issue. the economy is always the top
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issue. but you got to show a vision. look. if you look at the -- first set it up. the historic dynamics is that the democrats lose seats. if you look at going into 2002 with george bush the economy was beginning to tank and what george bush talked about but national security. to a certain extent, i saw the previous story on gas prices. chris, gas prices won't be fixed by the time of the election so the democrats have to make it about something larger. barack obama in 2008 the economy absolutely cratering and we made the election about hope and change. the senate democrats think they have some framework on gun
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reform. it is now becoming a dominant issue. two and three independents want stricter gun reform laws and you take that along with abortion. i think where women overwhelmingly don't want roe v. wade overturned and growing in nbc polling as a voting issue there's a conversation opportunity and not just the price of gas. >> we'll dive deeper into the importance of women in the midterm elections. thank you. >> thank you. a racially charged controversy in mississippi has the first black superintendent on leave. some employees claims of hostile work environment and how she said she wanted to make sure that kids of every race and background got the same opportunities. >> students at bay springs would
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take drug education whereas students at stringer take theater. t stringer take theater.
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vice president kamala harris addressing the tulsa shooting. >> four innocent people lost their lives. and many more were injured. we of course all of us hold the people of tulsa in our hearts but we also reaffirm our commitment to passing common sense gun safety laws. [ applause ] and i don't have to tell anybody in this room but president biden has taken more executive action to combat gun violence than any other president at this point in their administration. but we cannot as an administration or those of us who are here address this alone. no more excuses. thoughts and prayers are important but not enough. we need congress to act so with that i will turn to the topic at hand but i know that we all feel
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strongly about the leaders leading on these issues. so today, today we are here -- >> vice president harris, this is a preplanned set of announce mtds about the cancelation of debt at corinthian colleges and perhaps a brief preview of what to hear from the president tonight who at 7:30 eastern time and you can watch it here is going to give a prime time address on gun violence and make sure to be tuned for that. meantime we have exclusive reporting on the controversy in a rural mississippi school district. after the district's first black superintendent was suspended. dr. easy was on the job for less than a year when put on leave and replaced by a white acting superintendent. devastated students believed she was targeted for trying to fix
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disparities in the district coming to race. antonio hilton has the report. >> reporter: nade sha jones is a straight "a" student but the friends are activists now. questioning the school board's decision to place the district's first black superintendent dr. easy on leave less than a year after being hiring. >> the only thing that was ever surprising to me was the fact that we ever got a black superintendent that brung out the discrimination going on. >> was it important to black students to see the first-ever black superintendent? >> it was very. >> reporter: according to dr. easy trouble began soon after taking the reins. the district's gifted and talented programming is at the white stringer k-12 campus. remedial at bay springs schools.
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>> students at bay springs would take drug education whereas students at stringer would take theater. >> reporter: she was concerned about the condition of the facilities. there was no ac in the gym for almost seven years. the doctor said she wanted to make it equal to stringer in building and program quality. she proposed placing a new pre-k program in bay springs. the parents said it was too far. a parent sent an anonymous letter. >> the parent told me that i was being watched closely and had no right to try to make changes. >> looking back at the letter is it prophetic? >> absolutely. when i was hired i was told don't poke the bear in springer. leave it alone. >> reporter: then march the 3 the school board called a special meeting.
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parents said it was a hostile work environment. black employees spoke in her favor. is this about race? >> i didn't want it to be but the facts are 20 white employees came forth with concerns about the first black superintendent in the district. >> the board voted to place dr. easy on paid leave. she says within minutes the email deactivated and the office had new locks. nbc news placed numerous calls and e maims to district and state officials. all refused any comment for the stair. one stringer parent spoke to us outside the local post office. are you surprised? >> yeah. i think she was -- seems like causing problems as soon as she come into it. >> do you think this would be happening if she were a white man? >> no. i don't know. i think you need to get off the
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racism thing and do the job. >> reporter: the doctor is waiting for a hearing. she is replaced by a white acting superintendent. student activist nadasha hopes she will be reinstated but doubts grow. >> we have to fight so the people that come after us don't have to go through the same thing we go through. >> antonio hilton is here now. what happened to heifer since putt on leave? >> placed on leave in march and now it's june and not received information about a hearing but not a form or a letter letting her know why the district wants to remove her. she said she's felt intense hostility at times. went to a baseball game in the school's district and was asked to leave by the stringer principal. asked to leave part of the premises at the game in front of stublts she served, colleagues
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and described feeling hurt and humiliated and wants answers about the employment and if she'll get to serve the students again. >> i know you will keep us posted on this. extraordinary and concerning. thank you so much for your reporting. and then the queen's platinum jubilee. first time in history a british monarch celebrating a 70-year reign. looking ahead to what the future of a monarchy looks like next. s. and contains high quality protein to help manage hunger and support muscle health. try boost® today. ♪ ♪ bonnie boon i'm calling you out. everybody be cool, alright? we've got bonnie right here on a video call. we don't take kindly to video calls.
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watching planes are the royal air force fly past while the crowds cheered below packing the streets around buckingham palace and beyond. willford frost is here with me. keir, you guys across the pond know how to throw a party. i thought the queen said it all and she looked great. talk about what it was like there and how significant this is to the queen and her family. >> reporter: the queen looked as if she was loving it. prince luis not so much. if anyone saw the little one who is fifth in line to the throne, clearly has to do some work before he really enjoys a flyover. so that was a imagine magical m.
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you have the pomp and ceremony, everything is on time, the ocean of red and gold, marching bands. the whole thing is just so well done. then you have prince louis playing up a little bit. watch closely. you don't see kate or his great grandmother, the queen, scold him. they know people enjoy seeing that, that's part of the story. and they know also in terps of, you know, history rhymes, they know that we've seen that again and again on that balcony in generations past. so it's a very sophisticated message that they're sending. i say sophisticated because of course today was all about celebrating the queen and huge numbers of people came here on to the area behind me to celebrate her majesty. it was also about sending a message about her new era. we've seen prince charles front and center in a way he hasn't been in the past and then standing by the queen on the
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balcony there. so they are very, very good at managing their message, the royal family. that's what you saw today, just gently showing us that the queen is still there, matriarch, monarch. but that they are showing us the future. i think kate looked incredibly glamorous and fantastic and is a really good beacon for the royal family, if you like. and again, how you manage to pull that off whilst your children are there and one of them is being a bit naughty, it's impressive. >> she was cool as a cucumber. and when doesn't she look actually spectacular. that's a story for another day. a lot of folk that i know who live in the u.k., they love to hate the royals. but then you have something like this, the history of it, what it has meant, not just for that country but for folks around the world. we know almost every american president in their lifetime has met with her. talk about what you saw in terms
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of the crowds there and the excitement there. >> it interesting you mention that because even the most ardent republican in the u.k. has to love the fact that you get a free four-day weekend and pub hours are extended. that's a got starting point to bring people along with you. this isn't just about the queen giving the nation an excuse to celebrate, an excuse to party. maybe there was more of that ten years ago and 20 years ago, the last two jubilees, but i think why are we seeing such big crowds turn out and expected to do so all through the weekend. this time around it's almost luke the people want to show to the queen how grateful we are to her. there's that individual aspect that she carries that's so powerful. she's carried out this job for 70 years. the nation is grateful to her, even if you're not necessarily a believer in the royal families institution forever. and i think people just want to come out and show that respect they have for her while we still have a chance to do so.
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>> among those not in the family photo, harry and megan, but they are there, right, the american and the prince? >> absolutely. and they'll be there at the service tomorrow. i think the queen threaded a very tricky needle today to have this official moment where they're not current working royals so they weren't there on that first balcony photo, but i think we'll see a lot more of them throughout the weekend, which is only right and proper. and it was great to see some of those pictures coming out already seemingly getting on incredibly well with some of their extended members of the family. who knows, maybe this is a weekend where the queen can help try and repair some of those relationships with closer members of their immediate family. that remains to be seen. but i guess it's a chance for that to possibly happen. >> wilfred frost, take care of
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good to be with you. i'm katy tur. another mass shooting, another person with an a.k.-15. this time the shooting happened at a hospital in tulsa, oklahoma. dr. preston phillips, dr. stephanie houson, amanda green and william love, all shot dead. police detailed the how and why. police say the man had back surgery and dr. phillips was his surgeon. after the surgery, the gunman called dr. phi


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