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tv   Andrea Mitchell Reports  MSNBC  April 4, 2022 9:00am-10:00am PDT

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welcome back. i'm andrea mitchell in washington as the civilized world is reacting with horror to graphic evidence of massacres in bucha a suburb of kyiv. dead civilians in the streets, leading to new cries of sanctions from the u.s. and the european union. president zelenskyy in bucha saying he will not rest until the people who are responsible for these killings are identified. this clearly changes any momentum that might have existed over the weekend toward negotiating a cease fire. a warning, the pictures that we're showing you are disturbing. hundreds of civilian casualty, the majority of people buried in mass graves. others left lying in the street. some with their hands tied behind their backs in what president zelenskyy is calling an act of genocide by russian troops. the chair of the united nations security council refusing russia's request to hold an emergency meeting on kremlin claims that the massacre was
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staged by the ukrainians, before they got there, as a provocation to rely on russian forces. the u.n. ambassador announcing the u.s. will try to remove russia from the u.n. human rights council. president biden this morning back from delaware with a condemnation of vladimir putin now about this. >> i got criticized for calling putin a war criminal. well, the truth of the matter is we saw what happened in bucha. he is a war criminal. this guy is brutal, and what's happening in bucha is outrageous, and everyone's seeing it. >> officials at the international committee of the red cross say that their 15-bus convoy is running into more obstacles in their latest attempt to evacuate thousands of civilians from the decimated city of mariupol. we continue to monitor the senate judiciary's vote today, perhaps delayed because of senator madea of california having a flight delay. another passenger on his flight
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had a medical emergency. but there is supposed to be a vote later today to try to move judge ketanji brown jackson's nomination to the senate floor for what democrats hope will be a final confirmation vote friday before the senate then leaves for a two-week easter recess. we begin in ukraine with molly hunter in lviv. tell us what's the latest there? you have talked to people, people actually coming out of bucha, your reaction to what they're seeing? >> reporter: that's right. you're hearing the air-raid, and i think this is all clear from an air-raid we got about an hour ago. but these pictures started to emerge on saturday when journalists got into the suburb of bucha. bucha is 20 kilometers, a half hour away from kyiv, a commuter town, and one of the suburbs we have been talking so heavily about that russia has really occupied since that three or four days into the war. well, now that they have left, now that ukrainian troops have pushed them back, we are seeing what remains, and as you mentioned, these pictures are
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graphic. there are bodies lying on the ground. and these are civilians. there are civilian cars that have been burned, shot, and we also see the picture of one of these main streets in bucha of so many russian tanks that just couldn't get through. i do want to share a little bit more about what president zelenskyy was saying during hi visit today, and he was speaking to a lot of members of the press. he thanked them for being there. these are war crimes. they will be recognized by the world as genocide. the fact that you are here today, you'll see what happened, thousands of people, killed, tortured, severed limbs, raped women, and killed children. we don't know the death toll. the mayor has talked about mass graves with hundreds of people. they have talked about the hundreds of bodies they have found. we do not have a complete death toll. the other thing ukrainian officials are saying is there will likely be more buchas. a spoke with andrea buchelli,
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and they saw some of these atrocities with their own eyes, take a listen. >> every trip to the hospital was like a horrific trip because we saw outside of the car, all these murdered people. who stay lying. >> reporter: and shot. >> and then we saw, like, the people laying on the grass, like the ground, laying on the ground, they just were shot. they were just killed. they were just killed. >> reporter: where were the gunshot wounds? >> like, well, like, i don't know, not in the head, but how to say. >> reporter: in the chest? >> like the chest, like this. >> reporter: and these were people in civilian clothes for sure. >> for sure civilians. >> reporter: they had terrifying stories about how russian troops stormed into their house. on about the fourth day of the
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war, after bombing for 24 hours a day, they saw the tanks roll in. their neighborhood went to the window to look out and see what all of the commotion was, look out at the tanks and he was shot in the shoulder almost immediately. now, both of those two men are doctors, so they were commuting to the hospital almost every day. finally, they decided to leave, and andrea, they described the drive out, and it was a tricky road, a lot of people were trying to get out, and there were bodies everywhere, and that 32-year-old dentist who we just spoke with, his wife said, honey, look at the road, keep your eyes on the road, do not look at the side. do not look at the bodies. these crimes and the scene there needs to be investigated as war crimes, and that's exactly what we're hearing from president zelenskyy and world leaders. >> molly, just looking at the pictures, i can't imagine driving through it, and having witnessed the horror, and what the psychological effect is. thank you. thank you for telling such an important sorry. and joining us now is julio mandel, the former press
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secretary to president zelenskyy. you know, words can't even describe the way you must be feeling. president zelenskyy is there to witness the horror, and to tell the world about it, and this comes after, you know, so called peace talks on friday in ankara, a ukrainian proposal and talks of a putin, zelenskyy meeting. how could there be a putin zelenskyy meeting after this, or under what terms would there have to be, complete withdrawal? >> andrea, thank you. sorry, i interrupted you. general prosecutor said there were 410 bodies taken from bucha yesterday. these are lives of civilians, and they will be war crimes of putin and russia in ukraine. and the situation is even worse
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in other town in kyiv region, and we are all afraid here of what is coming out from months of bombing in mariupol, where 400,000 people used to live. right now, the issue of negotiations is, of course, very difficult, but at the same time, we've heard that president zelenskyy said that of course the negotiations are needed because this is the only format that can help work out. we understand that the biggest negotiator here is actually ukrainian army, ukrainian volunteers, and ukrainian people who go to protest without weapons against tanks and against russian troops. however, this meeting with putin is needed. can withdraw troops from ukraine. i don't know if it will be possible for president zelenskyy to shake hands as protocol demands with the president of russia at the same time
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president zelenskyy insists that negotiations -- that are happening right now in the europe, in ukraine, which is quite a civilized country. this is very painful. >> julia mandel, thank you so much for bearing witness. and joining me now is phillipo grando, i would like to get your reaction. this obviously affects the refugees as well as the rest of the world, maybe more so than the rest of us in having come through the terror of leaving ukraine. >> you know, i always say that of course we need to do more for people in ukraine, bring them more food, more medicines, more blankets. we're trying to do our best with the government of ukraine. the reality is people flee
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because they are afraid of shelling and bombs and now all of these allegations of killings, so that's really why these people are fleeing and unless trust is rebuilt, they will not go back. it is not just a matter of rebuilding homes, but rebuilding trust. this is really the crux of the matter right now. >> so now there are more than 4 million ukrainian refugees in eastern europe. we certainly expect more. how long can the countries, those border countries on nato's eastern flank care for so many people even with all the help from the u.n. and other aid groups. >> yeah, look, i've just come from a visit to the region. i was actually in western ukraine myself and then i was in poland for a couple of days. the refugee flow at the moment has slowed down, luckily. and this is why the priority is to assist people inside ukraine as much as possible to help them
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stabilize there in areas that are relatively safe for them. this is now priority number one. meanwhile, there are, as you said, 4.2 million refugees scattered in neighboring countries. poland alone took more than half of them. and those states around ukraine are doing really a fantastic job, in caring for these people. it's fantastic materially, but it's also a very caring attitude towards them, but they do need help. they do need international assistance. that's why the u.n., my organizations are there to help them with cash, with shelter, with especially protecting the most vulnerable, the young women, so many of them, the children, many of them are separated from their families. so lots of work, and very complex given the speed of this exodus, and its very size. >> what do you attribute the slowing of the flow of refugees,
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is it that they can't get out or that some people want to go back or that the ukrainian advances, the successes around kyiv have encouraged people that they could actually stick it out. >> i think it's a combination of these factors. also, the people who went out first were people with more connections in europe, and perhaps a bit more resources. now, i have seen near the border on the ukrainian side, families with less resources, many families do not want to separate from the men, you know, the men stay in ukraine. they are constricted in the army, they cannot go out. and then i think that the military revolution has given some breathing space, so you have a combination of all of this. i would say that we are in wait and see mode, but if the war continues, even if it is a protracted war, i think we may see more displacement, certainly inside ukraine unless this ends.
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>> in fact, intelligence services are predicting a protracted war as russia regroups, and they've got the may 9th russian celebration of victory in world war ii so that they are likely going to be hitting harder again. for more than a week, the red cross that be able to get tens of thousands of civilians out of mariupol. is there anything the u.n. can do to help keep those humanitarian corridors open. >> so the discussions on those so-called corridors are conducted by the red cross, but also by the u.n. humanitarian group. you know, the head of the u.n., antonio guterres appointed a coordinator for ukraine, and he, on behalf of all of us, conducts negotiations to ensure safe
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passage. we have done quite a lot of those corridors. i think today i have no news yet, but i heard there was an attempt to go to donetsk which is another city which has been hit very hard. mariupol has been impossible for all the reasons that we know, so we continue to be available to bring in supplies and to help people come out together with the red cross. but for that, we need -- we need to be sure that convoys are not shot at. if they're shot at, if they're prevented from going, we cannot do it. it's beyond us. we cannot force our way through for obvious reasons. >> and what do the refugees need most of all from those of us in the united states, and other, you know, wealthier western democracies. >> can i use this opportunity to thank all the people that have contributed. it's been an amazing race of solidarity, which we haven't
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seen in decades really, and this is governments but also ordinary people, and all over the world, including in the u.s., and i think that that's the most needed, you know, financial contributions, so we can need, we can buy what is needed most, big blankets, distribution of cash, which is very important in situations of high mobility, and there is another area that is growing as a big need is psychological support. psychological support because highly traumatized population. they have to drop a completely normal life, life of any of us from one day to the other, and take the road of exile, and this causes enormous stress and trauma. we need the resources to help with psychological support. one quick thing, i was in poland, the mayor of warsaw told me, that he has no more psychologists to care for the 300,000 ukrainians that have arrived in warsaw, in his city,
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because they're all working flat out with this population. so this is an area that we done think about so often but it's very important in this context. >> absolutely. it's a great pleasure to have this interview with you. thank you very much for all of your experience. >> thank you. thank you for inviting me. it's very important. thank you. >> you bet. and nightmare scenario, president search getting his firsthand view of the atrocities in bucha and asking the question on many people's minds, how do you negotiate with the russians after what you have seen here. this is andrea mitchell reports, stay with us on msnbc. reports, stay with us on msnbc. it was really holding me back. standing up... ...even walking was tough. my joints hurt. i was afraid things were going to get worse. i was always hiding, and that's just not me. not being there for my family, that hurt. woooo! i had to do something. i started cosentyx®. i'm feeling good. watch me.
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as we've been reporting today, president zelenskyy visited bucha to meet with survivors after russian troops executed civilians there. leaving their bodies lying in the streets. killing the killings genocide and war crimes.
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he gave a powerful speech at the grammy's. >> the war doesn't let us choose who lives and who stays in eternal sadness. our musicians wear body armor instead of tuxedos. we defend our freedom to live, to love. >> joining me now is barry mccaffrey, and bruce rydell. bruce is getting hooked up. i hope you can hear me. bruce rydell, a senior fellow in a 30 year cia officer, and long time white house official as well at the nfc. general mccaffrey, the pentagon just announced about 2/3 of the russian troops centered around kyiv are repositioning, repositioned to belarus in the north. are they on their way there or on their way there, but this doesn't mean kyiv is safe, according to the pentagon. that they are regrouping, and
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will probably wind around and come in towards eastern ukraine. no one is spiking the football, basically. >> well, you know, it certainly looks like they have been handed a tactical defeat, and the areas north and west of kyiv, they weren't being able to encircle the city, and they are now apparently trying to refit, reposition, and grab the bridge, probably go after odesa as a strategic objective. andrea, you know, backing off the horrific news of bucha, and what they have done in phase two of this operational intervention, they lost control of their armed forces, they tactically lost the war, they turned to a strategic objective of terrorizing, murdering, starving civilians to displace them, and to cause zelenskyy's government to capitulate, and it didn't work.
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the murders in bucha, i think, show another aspect of this war. these were random, brutal murders, rape, torture of russian tactical units completely out of control. it's a horrendous thing. we better focus on what's happening. this war's going to grind ukraine into the dust if we don't accelerate and improve the delivery of defense technology to the ukrainians. and by the way, in notion of defensive versus offensive is nonsense. i've seen a lot of people killed where it was not apparent whether the weapon was offense or defense, and so we've got a challenge coming up. we better stand up to it. >> and so bruce rydell, someone you know well, former secretary of state james baker he was honored today with a statue unveiled at the state department, and he talked about
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ukraine. let's listen. >> we all know the winds of war are blowing hard in ukraine, where citizens are making some quite heroic efforts to maintain their independence. i think this crisis once again proves the critical importance of american leadership. the united states is and still will remain for some time a force for international peace and stability. >> so bruce, this really puts the burden on us as the leader of nato. we've got to step up. we've got to get that military equipment in sooner, and in retrospect, zelenskyy, wasn't he right, we need the weapons before the invasion. we need the sanctions before. the intelligence was all that was going to happen. that was u.s. intelligence, they were terrific. you can't fault them. >> yes, we had exceptionally good intelligence here, we and
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the british. it provided not just information about russian capabilities but more importantly russian intelligences, and yes, we should have done more to set up the supply lines to get equipment in, the sanctions in place, all that should have been done earlier. but i agree with the general, now is the time to ramp up the supply line as much as possible, as much as our nato allies are comfortable with going forward on this front. poland is in effect the most important country here, and i think the president was wise to go visit warsaw and to put a little hands on diplomacy with our polish allies right from the beginning. >> bruce, you've seen this movie before, vladimir putin, underestimating the ukrainian the way the soviets underestimated the afghan resistance which was partly a u.s. afghan resistance back then. you were very much part of all
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that. >> absolutely. yes, this is a replay of the soviet invasion of afghanistan in 1979 and the war that followed. the soviets completely misunderstood what they were getting themselves into. they never put enough troops and boots on the ground to deal with the nature of the problem. and they had the same problem that the russians have in ukraine with allies nearby which are willing to provide supply lines. the 1980s, we were the quarter master of the war in afghanistan along with saudi arabia. in this war, we and nato can be the quarter master and let ukrainians have the equipment and the weapons that they need to win. >> general mccaffrey, spain has now announced seizing a $90 million yacht owned by sanctioned russian oligarch, victor vexelburg at the request of the u.s., does this make any
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difference at all to vladimir putin? it doesn't strike me that it does. >> i don't think it does. you know, i think putin respects power, not economic wealth. he can take away the wealth of the oligarchs and has in the past. but back to bruce's point, which i think are dead on target, if we want to support peace, and the negotiations, we've got to give a much enhanced military capability to ukrainians, and that means qualitative improvements on what we have been providing, not just smart hand held munitions but m1 tanks, not first generation old soviet equipment. anti-ship missiles. i'm not sure nato collectively will come together and do this. it may well be we need a coalition of the willing, the french, the brits, the germans to step up to this task of really getting behind ukraine's
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counter attack capability to force peace negotiations on ukraine's terms. >> well, that is a big question, i'll be heading to nato this week, and they will be making these decisions, and that's the first time i've heard that proposal, general mccaffrey in this context and it makes a whole lot of sense. bruce riedel, good to see you again, and of course as also, mccaffrey for your wisdom. the latest from capitol hill is up next. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. next this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc.
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also with us is david henderson, civil rights attorney and former prosecutor. garrett, first to you, talk about the timing, what are we hearing now from the senators, and how would a tie vote impact the process. trying to get this done this week before the big two-week easter break. >> a tie in the judiciary committee has been somewhat baked in for a while now. really since lindsey graham came out and said he would not be supporting judge jackson either in the committee or on the floor. it doesn't slow things down too much. senator schumer can still have a motion to discharge, they bring it to the floor. senators are hopeful they can get this thing across the finish line, get judge jackson confirmed before they leave for their easter recess. regardless of the fact she won't be on the bench until september. it does need to be a tie in the judiciary committee. they can't do this without alex padilla's vote. another reminder of how fragile a 50-vote majority is. you need everybody present and casting their votes to move anything through an evenly
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divided senate when you have the other side against you, and that's the situation democrats find themselves in now. >> and david henderson, so republicans today like lindsey graham bringing up judge jackson's qualification yet again, they say she's qualified but they're not going to vote for her. >> andrea, that's exactly right, and you know, this ties back to the question of timing. when i think about the timing influencing this volt, part of what i focus on is if it's occurring perhaps on the anniversary of mlk's assassination, the 54th anniversary and it's remarkable how you could take someone qualified for this position, and marginalize them based on their gender and race. i think the race is relevant when you consider the family history, despite the fact that members of the family face discrimination. my dad grew up in birmingham, alabama, during the civil rights, and chose to serve in the united states military as did members of her family, and police officers and public school teachers, and they
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questioned her for 23 hours, and asked her act subject matter irrelevant to the judge they're asking her to perform. >> like how would you define woman. that's the kind of thing i was anchoring our program from brussels and i have to tell you, watching it from somewhat removed, it was extraordinary to watch that performance, david. >> and that wasn't something that occurred during the hearing. ted cruz asked that question in the written questions he submitted to her to respond to prior to the hearing. that was his 102nd question. you have to first notice that he asked 100 questions prior to that one, and then his question was, the white house made it clear their nominees would be african-american women, are you aware of what criteria they used to determine whether the nominees would be women. that's what he chose to focus on, which marks the difference between progress and entering
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the promised land, which he is yet to do on these subjects. >> which is the echo from dr. king's speech, so garrett, the prur, there's so many things that could happen along the way with the evenly divided senate, look at what happened when one senator gets covid, and can't come to the floor. >> that's exactly right. we saw that when ben ray lujan suffered a stroke. he's back in the senate and can vote. this is when those bipartisan votes do matter. the susan collins vote, for example, she came out late last week and said she would support judge jackson on the floor. that's not just important for the fact that it means that she will have bipartisan support. it's important for the fact that it means there's a 51st vote in her favor. it gives democrats and judge jackson and her supporters a little bit more of a cushion. andrea, i'm watching very closely today to see whether we get movement from lisa murkowski or less likely mitt romney to come out in judge jackson's
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favor. remember, murkowski was one of the three who voted for the circuit court possession. she's difficult to lobby, to influence, to push. republicans and democrats alike know you pretty much have to give her the information she asks for, and stay out of the way. you'll find out how she'll vote when she sits down to vote. >> and a seat mate to her friend susan collins. we don't know what is influencing her and how she'll decide. thank you both so much, david henderson, and you're going to be a busy guy on the hill this week indeed, garrett haake. and sarah palin is back, well, sort of. she's back on the ballot, as republicans are hoping to take back the house and more in november. how some in the gop are pushing back, coming up next. this is andrea mitchell reports on msnbc. is andrea mitchell re on msnbc ♪ ♪ nice suits, you guys blend right in. the world needs you back. i'm retired greg, you know this. people have their money just sitting around
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in her bed for the late alaska representative don young's congressional seat in the june special election. trump saying he is returning the favor following her early endorsement for him in 2016. joining us now is former republican congressman from texas, will hurd, and the author of the new book "american reboot," an idealist's guide to getting big things done. congratulations on the book, congressman, it's great to see you again. this is already a crowded field for that seat. pay lin is one of 51 candidates running in the special primary. how much does a trump endorsement help her in alaska where they only have one congress member. which is the former president's endorsement mean? >> the former president, i don't know what his numbers are in alaska. the fact that you have lisa murkowski there as well too in with 51 people running in a seat that is probably going to have a
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very small handful of a group of people coming out to vote, you try to get your leg up. i would like to see more people trying to inspire folks to come out and vote. you know, my home state just had an election primaries, we had 3 million people come out to vote, both republicans and democrats, that's out of 30 million people. the amount of voter apathy, part of the reason is we don't have candidates that are inspiring people, and talking about those issues that folks care about. that's one of the reasons why. in this low turnout election, it's going to help. >> another reason could be that texas is making it harder for some people to vote with their restrictions. >> my opinion is on voting, more people should, you know, the more people that vote, the better. when you look at primaries, if you look at the last presidential election year in 2018, the average number of people to vote in a contested primary was 54,000 people.
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that's not a whole lot of folks. that means 26,501 people decide in the house, 92% of the house seats, so if we had more people voting in primaries, we'll be better off. i'm of the opinion we should be able to register to vote. i'm online, if estonia can vote online, and they have the threat of a russian invasion, not only a physical invasion, but a digital hacking, because they're right on the border, if they're able to vote online, why can't we be pursuing that. so the more people to vote, the better. in my home state, you have two weeks in early voting. in many states, you don't have early voting or maybe one day. more people voting, the better, especially in special elections and primaries. >> you're focusing on how america needs a reboot, and you give a diagnosis for the republican party. you expand on this whole idea in an interview for the atlantic. talking about the level of
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desperation you've seen among your former colleagues. you wrote, they are desperate to hold on to their positions, and power they make really bad decisions and you point to kevin mccarthy, elise stefanik in the current state of your party. what's happened? >> well, look, i don't think this is an issue just for republicans. it's the same for democrats as well where people want to stay in these positions, and they stop making decisions that are good decisions and they focus on a small number of voters, anywhere between 2 and 6% because people are focusing on the extremes, rather than in the middle, and for me, i think the majority of americans care about putting food on the table or a roof over their head and making sure the people they love are healthy or happy. if we take about those issues, we'll be able to be better off as a country. we have serious issues we're dealing with, the russian invasion of ukraine and can this
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happen in other places. we're dealing with an increased competition with the chinese government to try to surpass the united states as the only super power in the world. these things are going to require us to have serious conversations and a true competition of ideas, and republicans take back the house in 2022, i want to see us do that by growing the party and not just trying to get a little bit more of the edges to come out to vote. >> we've also seen this appealing to the extreme strategy deployed by 2024. presidential hopefuls like ron desantis in florida, with the recent don't say gay law and ted cruz and josh hawley and others are doing, tom cotton, regarding judge jackson's nomination. and this is fueling culture wars trying to out trump trump. is that a winning play book for the party?
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>> i don't think to see to be a winning play book for the party. i'm a black republican that remitted -- represented a latino district. nobody thought i could get reelected. the reason i did that is i grew and went to communities that had never seen an elected official, let alone a republican. so we have an opportunity. we have an opportunity in 2022, 72% of americans believe the country's on the wrong track. this is something that has been growing, and republicans have an opportunity to take advantage of that and to start appealing to those folks that feel like something is wrong. it's going to require us to be a party of ideas. it's going to require us to be able to talk about these issues and like i said before, to inspire americans not just fear mongering, that's my hope. it's hard to do this. the structure is not based this way. the professional political class
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is not geared to this. the media doesn't cover things that way, and so this is hard what i'm saying, but the reality is if we want to keep this century, the american century, we have to do this, and we don't have to deal with the way things are now. that's a lesson i learned in the cia, called get off the x, the x is a location where something is going down. that's the last place you want to be and we don't have to accept this current situation and we can't. >> would you consider running yourself? >> if i have the opportunity to serve my country again, i'll evaluate it. i've been lucky to serve. i spent 9 1/2 years as an undercover officer in the cia. it was awesome recruiting spies and stealing secrets, and dangerous places and back allies of exotic places, i was excited to serve my time in congress for six years, and represent a great community, and fight the bureaucracy for people that need to be fought, and if i have an opportunity to do something like
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that again, i'll evaluate it. >> i'm going to take that as a yes. we'll be talking to you again, will hurd, former congressman and author. thank you very much. and burying the dead amid the complete devastation of mariupol. those who remain alive do what they can. the latest from the international red cross about efforts to get people out of the besieged city. this is "andrea mitchell reports," you're watching msnbc. l reports," you're watching msnbc. wait, what? it sounded like you just said an eye drop that may help you see up close. i did. it's an innovative way to... so, wait. i don't always have to wear reading glasses? yeah! vuity™ helps you see up close. so, i can see up close with just my eyes? uh-huh. with one drop in each eye, once daily. in focus? yep. [laughs] like, really? really. vuity™ is a prescription eye drop to help you see up close. ow! wait, what? wait. wait? wait, what?
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so, when are you coming to see us? ♪♪ a team from the international committee of the red cross is being held today by the police west of mariupol. the team was on the way to the city to help safely evacuate residents who have been trapped for weeks without food or medicine. joining me now is the spokesperson for the international committee of the red cross. jason, your teams have not been able to get to mariupol. what are you hearing from the field? >> this latest news shows how difficult it is to move even when you're a humanitarian organization. our team was held by police today. it's the fourth straight day that we've been trying to get
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into mariupol. we haven't yet been able to get there. sometimes it's the security situation. sometimes it's getting past check points. it's really difficult work. >> what are the residents doing from what you can -- you have some communication because you know what you're trying to supply. they must be desperate by now. >> that's a great word. you know, unfortunately we've been here for days seeing the situation get worse every day. we can see in other cities that we do have access to that when we reach there the residents are saying we don't have anyway to get water. there are no doctors left in the town. there's no medical supplies. people come up to us and say do you have any first aid? do you have any food? do you have any water? those are places closer to kyiv. mariupol has been cut off from
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the world for weeks now. i'm at a loss for words to describe how difficult it must be for the people living there. it's vital we get in from a humanitarian perspective as soon as possible. we're still trying to do that despite the setback today. >> while the situation in mariupol is devastating you got into irpin on friday where residents had been trapped. what was it like when you finally got in? >> there is that little bit of good news that we were able to visit people there. unfortunately the scenes were just absolute devastation when our teams got there. everything was destroyed. people were in extreme need. our team had a bit of first aid with them and they were able to help an elderly gentleman left lying there on his own. i'm not sure how long he had been there. when you get wounded in a
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situation like this -- when there's no rescuers left, you sit there and continue to be in pain and maybe move towards death. this man had severe leg injuries. we were able to assist him with that. he asked for water, but he remains in bad shape. of course, you can see the images on the screen going now. the devastation is beyond comprehension. there's no medical assistance left in the town for the people who have remained there, either because they simply say this is where i live and i'm not leaving or they don't have the ability to leave. we're returning there tomorrow. the needs are overwhelming and we can only carry so much. >> it's a dangerous operation to say the least. you don't really have what you
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can count on from the russians in terms of no overhead bombing. thank you for what you're doing and what your teams are doing. we hope you stay in touch. >> thank you. that does it for today for this two-hour edition of andrea mitchell reports. tomorrow we'll be coming to you live from brussels. follow the show online on facebook and twitter. kristin welker is in for chuck todd right after this. ht after . ] sorry about that. umm...what...it's uhh... you alright? [loud exhale] [ding] never settle with power e*trade. it has powerful, easy-to-use tools to help you find opportunities, 24/7 support when you need answers, plus some of the lowest options in futures contract prices around. [ding] get e*trade and start trading today.
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