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. welcome to a new era in washington, where right now, president biden is getting his first full day on the job with a prayer service at washington cathedral, hitting the ground sprinting in his first 48 hours in office. it is about the pandemic, that just saw its worst day yet. that bunch of executive orders today will come after a busy day one on that front, too, with more than a dozen orders reversing key trump initiatives on climate, on covid and on immigration. to get things done, president biden will need a cabinet. on capitol hill the president is speaking to confirm nominees and brief pete butigieg any minute. we have impeachment watch, a
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possible path forward and the latest on how power sharing might work in a congress controlled, as of today, by democrats. we will hear from the house speaker later this hour, too. we got it all covered for you on this thursday morning on msnbc. i am hallie jackson in washington. along with peter alexander covering the biden white house. we are joined by dr. patel and former health policy adviser for the obama administration. we'll have more from the little in a minute. peter, let me start with you and what we are expecting to hear from president widen in a few hours when it comes to his new covid strategy. talk us through it. >> reporter: certainly, the pandemic is the new beginning of this administration. i was just in the west wing. i ran into the new vice president kamala harris alongside the second gentleman as they head over to that inauguration, that virtual inauguration prayer service today still sort of getting their bearings in this new
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building. even as they do that, they are already taking ac, a series of actions yesterday. at least ten more executive orders to be signed by joe biden today, heavily focused on the pandemic a. comprehensive vaccine strategy. they're taking new strategy steps towards trying to produce more masks, more testing, better treatment and public health work force to participate with coronavirus vaccine distribution centers. they're hoping to set up around the country at stadiums and gymnasiums with individual from federal agencies and military officials participating, to expand emergency relief with the use of the defense production act. that allows the federal government basically to use emergency war-like powers to combat this crisis. they'll also layout details on their plan to reopen schools and businesses safely and address some of the racial inequalities that exist now as a function of this crisis, largely, how those communities of color have been disproportionately hard hit here. those are the top priorities as they try to deal with the pandemic from day one.
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halle. >> peter, you blew past this i got to say, you didn't ran into the new vice president in the west wing? i'm thinking back to the early days as you remember, the prior administration when we would run into president trump, the former president here and there, would you bump elbows and say hi? >> we can only, as you know well, there are only so many offices you can go to i was going to the upper press area to check in with the press secretary. literally at that moment, i saw kamala harris and her husband walking through. they were looking at the new photos on the wall. she was enjoying it headed over to that prayer service. she had excitement in her eyes. i grew up in oakland, california. so we had a chance to strike. striking even as they are enjoying this moment, there is little to celebrate as she indicated. she pulled back the curtain and they waved and passed by. she looked up and said, just walking to work as she pray
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paraded down pennsylvania avenue. >> peter, you are working your sources. the new press secretary talked a little about what peter is going through this morning here on this network. dr. patel, i want to play for you what she had to say. >> we're not going to be able to get out of the pandemic or get the pandemic under control overnight. it's going to take months and months. we want to also be clear in setting that expectation with the american public. >> so, dr. patel, as somebody who had advised former president obama. talk to us about the moves the administration will take? >> at least, one thing can i tell you is it's been incredible to see in under 24 hours that we actually have a national strategy. but i think as the press secretary alluded to, the implementation, execution and then more importantly the accountability for that is not going to happen overnight.
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incredibly difficult is this kind of parallel sprint. they're going to have to push on all cylinders to get vaccine proud and out. there is limitations to how much you can do. you can't crop up factories to make new vaccines overnight. but at the same time, they do need to try to look for how we can reopen schools and businesses, while they are getting vaccinated. >> we won't have a vaccine for young kid. maybe at all this year. so there is a conundrum there. finally, you reported on the death. it's incredibly critical that the hot spots that are still surging, hospitals, l.a., tennessee, atlanta. parts of new york, where we are still seeing ambulances with hours to unload patients. there need to be critical assistance in those areas, too. as you can imagine, i think they were adept in trying to say, do not expect us to be able to fix everything when it has literally
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been four years for undoing so many of these policies. >> it's the new cdc director dr. rochelle wolenski was over on the "today" show about the idea you got to get vaccine shots by march, as the former health secretary alex azar predicted, listen, i don't think late february we will have a vaccine in every pharmacy. the biden administration says 100 dose in 100 days. i wonder if you agree with the doctor the idea by the beginning of march, we may not be able to washington into a cvs and get that vaccine easily accessible. >> that's largely because of the complex storage requirements. keep in mind, we do have several manufacturers that are in line hopefully with promising day data. we could see options, not necessarily by the end of february. i hope march/april opens up. that's why it's incredibly
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critical. we are talking vaccines. i need to figure out how to get my patients tested and a result in under 24 hours. i am still struggling with turn-around times. i think dr. wolenski was trying to say, look, we're here, we have a plan. i also think it's our roles as analysts and advisers to be critical and point out, you know, listen, this is a little unrealistic. so i do hope we will have a chance to comment on that and i do feel like they're starting to listen to a number of us that have said, do not try to over promise because we think we can actually get some of this work done. but you have to work with local communities. because we do have the infrastructure on the ground. >> right. >> we need to turn it on. that's a part of what you are alluding to. we need the pharmacies and clinics like mine. we need to deal with the storm requirements, which, frankly, we should be able to do. >> when you look at thematically the way that the biden team is
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sort of breaking up these first few days in office. there have been clear themes, today, it's been about the pandemic, the virus. they have 22 hours that joe biden has been president. a rollback, right, with a slew of initiatives that former president trump put in place. you can see some of these headlines movering to undo president trump's legacy, for example. you have seen that and watched that first hand in this sort of first full day of the biden administration. >> yeah, halle, that's right. executive power can give it. an executive power can taketh it away. you remember the early days of the trump white house, it felt like they were systematically dismantle the key policy planks of the obama-biden administration so what did we see in the first hours of a bidened a machine strikes, he was revoking the keystone xl pipeline, ending the travel muslim majority ban.
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he was ending construction on the border wall, the signature trump promise from his campaigns. also reprising some of the obama accomplishments, including the paris climate accord. all of this he did sitting behind a resolute deck, wear ac mask. one of those executive orders was mandating the wearing of masks on federal property? that's right. >> as we know, he had been aspiring for most of his career to sit behind that resolute desk. as he walked to the white house i had a chance to try to get in his head as he was getting ready to take on this task. take a listen to that moment. >> reporter: mr. president, you have been aspiring to this office for your whole career. what does this moment feel like. >> like coming home. >> reporter: i guess you can put at this time biden whisper requires a little biden shouting as we did on the parade route there. but we did see last night after some of that early work in the oval office, the biden family did have some time to really
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take stock of their new home here in washington, watching those fireworks and spending time with the extended biden family there. >> matt, between you and the ability to corral the vice president, peter, thank you guys very much, i appreciate it. down now to the other end of pennsylvania avenue. we showed you that confirmation starting. it is beginning now. pull up a live shot. president biden, transportation secretary pete, we are looking at how chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell plan to share power in an evenly divided senate. that is happening once the two new senators got sworn in 24 hours ago. let's go to garrett haig.
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where do things stand? >> reporter: this is our sixth confirmation up here in the senate. this process continues. i think we will likely see votes today, friday, into early next week to confirm the biden appointees. while that work is hanging on, over all of it are discussion about sharing power. something that has to figure out how these committees will be run, divvying up office space, setting up how the floor will be controlled and putting together plans of the impeachment trial of former president trump. it's not nearly as cool as peter's run-ins. i did have a chance to talk to number two senate democrat dick durbin. he says the big hangup, mitch mcconnell wants to find a way to protect the legislative filibuster. he does not want that 60-vote threshold to go away. that's a part of the power-sharing discussions going on. then the matter of when this
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impeachment article gets sent over will be up to speaker pelosi. the white house says they're not involved. you have to think the biden administration wants to know when they will essentially lose control of the senate for a few days of that impeachment trial. i don't imagine a situation in which they would start on saturday. they would have to stop on sunday. you are looking at a couple days next week, when we will see that trial go under way. >> very interesting, garrett haake. your run-ins are cool. we appreciate you bringing us the latest from dick durbin, thanks. lots to get to on this first new day including brand-new reporting on biden's immigration plan and what he is doing on the border wall is a pause, not a full stop. plus the new president promising washington will work together.
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nancy mace will join us live whether there is a bipartisanship, something three of the four most recent past presidents agree needs to be a priority. >> we've got to not just listen to folks we agree with, but listen to folks we don't. >> i think if americans that love their neighbor like they love to be loved, themselves, a lot of the division in our society would end. >> it's a new beginning and everybody needs to get off their high horse. off their high horse
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we are taking you back live now to capitol hill, where we are waiting to hear from house leadership in both parties, speaker pelosi, kevin mccarthy delivering news conference kicking off a new reality in washington. one in which democrats control the house, the senate and the white house. so, yes, democrats do have control of both chambers of congress, just barely. which means president biden's calls for unity and bipartisanship are being tested with some republicans looking to challenge his nominees and objecting to his first moves in action. like dismantling predecessor policies. one saying they hurt american workers in our economy. another, senator ted cruz slamming the president for rejoining the paris climate accord. the whole thing, all the actions, writing unity themes
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and divisive actions. i am joined by republican congresswoman nancy mace of north carolina. welcome to the show. thanks for being with us. >> good morning. thank you for having me. >> of course, sow described your first 100 hours in congress very memorably as hell. let me ask you this morning, does the temperature feel any different today? >> well, we have a new administration now. i am hopeful. i want to put the last few weeks behind us and start focusing on our future. with joe biden being sworn in, we have a clean sit -- slate to start from. we won't agree on 80% of the things. but at the end of the day our goals are the same. it's how to work together to achieve some of that together. we have real problems right now with covid-19 and small businesses being shut down, people out of work. we have a real problem with vaccinations getting out to states and south carolina, number one, right now, we're dead last in the percentage of vaccinations per 100,000. so i am really hopeful for being
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able to find ways for the american people and i want to be a part of going forward and how do we do that going together? >> what we have seen from the president so far has been him using the power of the presidency through executive order. i wonder if you share that setting policy aside, do you share the same concerns of some of your republican colleagues of the use of the executive actions altogether? >> i do. and we see republican and democrat presidents doing that. that is usually their first stake in the ground to draw a line in the sand and say, this is a part of their agenda for the administration. this isn't anything new to anybody. every president does this, it's historic. my biggest concern right now is with the american people and ensuring going forward we look out for trying to get our economy back together, previous to covid now, the greatest economies in the world. people were employed. if you wanted a job, you had a job. so i want to make sure, my concern is with getting people back to work safely and those
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who can and want to get back to work, that they have an opportunity to do that. there are some places in south carolina. our unemployment is hovering just over 4%. we've done a remarkable job. right now we are dead last in vaccination doses. so i am working really hard to do what i can at the federal level to get us up where we need to be with the other states. those are things concerning to people. right now, the executive orders, they are important, but also getting people back to work, safely away from covid and their exposure to it is equally important as well. that's where my focus has been, really. >> hearing you talk about the pandemic, i am reminded of some of the things that we have heard, frankly, from president biden and his team. they sent that massive legislative plan over to congress, that $1.9 covid relief plan. have you had a chance? i think you were reviewing, i believe, some of that legislation, do you think the
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$1.9 trillion plan is a good start? >> well, it's expensive, quite frankly. what i want to make sure what happens with this package and has happened with others, that in the past we've sent checks to dead people. we sent checks to people who are not citizens of the united states. we sent people worn making $75,000 a year and their income and lifestyle was not affected by covid, and so, because of our deficit, you know, being $4 trillion in the last fiscal year, our debt is right now. we got to be really focused on how are we going to be able to afford paying for all this. my that cuss should be targeted relief to small businesses and those individuals who have lost wages, lost work, lost salary because of covid-19. i'm not sure the package quite does that. >> i believe some of the things you mentioned, obviously, is not widespread, if anything. but i want to ask you about a vote that you will be taking today.
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this vote on a waiver to let retired general lloyd austin serve as secretary of defense just to remind folks because he has not been out of the military long enough. there has to be congressional approval. we saw this four years ago with jim mat tess, how are you going to vote on that waiver, congresswoman? >> i am still looking at it. but i am traveling today. i have not made that decision yet. i am listening to both sides of the argument. one of the things i think is important for election officials is we are consistent. we did this for mattis four years ago. why would we not do it now? he would be the first african-american we've had. if we've done it for others in the past, then why the opposition now? so i am looking at it. i will be reviewing precedent and what we have done in the past. i will make that decision in just a few hours. >> let me play for you one of your fellow south carolina law-makers said about the future of the republican party and where it goes now. >> okay. >> in this first day really of the post-trump era.
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here's senator lindsey graham. >> donald trump will be the strongest voice in the republican party for years to come. if are you wanting to erase donald trump from the party, you are going to get erased. >> you called yourself a new voice for the republican party. i wonder if you agree or disagree, what should the role of former president trump be in the party moving forward? >> yeah. well, i hasn't heard those remarks until just now. i love ronal reagan's 11th commandment. i'm not going to speak against any one of my colleagues personally in my own party. but i will say i do believe the republican party needs a new voice. there are some within our party who are die hard donald trump supporters and it doesn't matter what he says or does, they're going to continue to be that way. that is something that we have to also acknowledge. but if we don't also acknowledge our own issues within our party and hold ourselves accountable for the things that have happened, the things that have been said, then which can't ask
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the theft to hold themselves accountable. so i really want to be a consistent voice in that regard. it's something is that we as a party are going to have to navigate in the future. but at the same time, we can't be hypocritical about it. if we are asking the left to end violence and rhetoric on their side, we got to be willing to do it on our side. i do think these are things we will have to focus on in the future if we want to continue to win elections in the future. and i'm going to be a strong voice. i have been attacked repeatedly for being such a strong voice. but after the events of the last couple weeks, i think it's more important than ever we have a diversity of voices in our own party and that we respect each other for it. >> congresswoman nancy mace, thank you very much for being on the show. we hope half-you back. we appreciate your time. >> thank you so much. the opinion phase is just getting started. but how long will that phase last? guess what we got on the big board? steve kornacki is live.
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plus the new administration trying to dismantle president trump's immigration policy. we will take you live to the u.s.-mexican border for reaction. first a moment that captivated the nation. 22-year-old amanda goreman, the youngest poet ever to speak at an inauguration, reciting her poet, the hill we climb. she wrote about a country and democracy struggling to heal. this morning, a bit of a peek at her own political aspiration. okay. got to ask you. 2036, are you running for president? >> heck you. 2036, are you runni president? >> heck you. hey, dad! hey, son! no dad, it's a video call. you got to move the phone in front of you like..like it's a mirror, dad. you know? alright, okay. how's that?
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we are just now getting a look at the president and vice president on their first full day at the white house. you can see it on the left side of the screen, taking part in that virtual prayer service with the washington national cathedral. you can see other family members as well in the room there, inside the white house. just about 24 hours on the job, coming up on it. a lot to show for it. a number of executive actions already signed. along with a starting point where things ended for president trump. that starting point may be important and tell us how big of a challenge any administration can face in trying to advance its agenda. i want to bring in steve kornacki.
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break it down, the approval rating and how it compares to where presidents usually start off their terms. >> let's look at this in two part. we got to ease 24 hours into the presidency. we don't have approval ratings. we have biden's transition to the presidency, the period from the november election until yesterday that president-elect period from 67% of voters. this was an abc washington post poll a couple days ago 67% of voters said they approved how he handled the transition. this is a question asked of recent presidents. you can see donald trump in 2016/2017 when he was coming into the presidency. his transition approval was 40%. this is basically every other modern president. the norm has been in the 70s or 80s in that transition period. trump went to a much different place at 40%. biden's number much closer with presidents democrat and
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republicans. it is a tick lower there. when you say the approval rating, the clock is now ticking on that. this is what you have here. this is the honeymoon period for recent presidents. their first month in office. that's when they get the best press. usually the opposition party lays off a little at least. here's the high watermark in that first month for recent presidents. you see it's 60s, 70s. for donald trump, it was 46%. that was his high watermark for his honeymoon and his entire presidency, he never got above 50%. that was markedly, dramatically different. for jierksd it's a-day-old, we don't have numbers yet. i think that's one thing to look for when you see the biden approval ratings over the next month. is it in line pre-trump or is it a high number or a new era when it comes to this stuff? >> that's a really interesting point. when do you think we will see those numbers? >> i'd say give it a week.
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we will start to get our first real numbers. >> let's book it now. next thursday. i appreciate it. right now you got workers involved in immigration processes all around the country, starting the day under a very different frame. right. with president biden's plans for a big immigration overhaul already set in motion. in the first few hours, you had the president ticking off big items, signing and ordering border wall construction to pause, starting who, to try to strengthen daca, that program to protect so-called dreamers, sending an immigration bill to congress. ending that travel ban involving some muslim majority countries. other action items are set for several day, on the right side of your screen, like a task force to reunify families still separated. let's bring in jacob soberoff at the border. let's talk about this so called
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pause. i know you have been checking what's down there. help us understand pause versus an end on the border wall. >> well, a pause is exactly what it sound like. they're going to take stock of where the projects are at. for instance, this is outside mesa and the other tijuana. they are putting finishing touches on the road. they call it the all weather road at the base of the wall. but work on president trump's project is largely done here in this sector. that's not the case across the country. so i think they will look at the ccp, border patrol and dhs as a whole agency level review. we will look at where things are at and decide how they want to move forward. it doesn't mean there will not be any new construction. especially if it was appropriated by congress. but the idea is he promised he would stop construction day one and that is what president bind has done. it's the same for i.c.e. and deportation moratorium, 100 days stopping deportation for people
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in the system right now and that is despite the fact that an outgoing trump administration tried to sabotage in the words of a former official by making agreements with local agencies throughout the country to prevent the biden administration from moving forward, including, by the way on the right side of the screen when it comes to issues that have not been addressed and on the 29th, we are expecting the task force to go out and find and reyou fight the 611 families that haven't been contacted yet, but the thousands and i am sure that you will talk to them in a bit. i know you will have a lot more to say about that. >> jacob, thank you for the rundown. i appreciate it. let me bring in the man, deputy director of the aclu legal rights project. >> thanks for having me. >> let me start and this task
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force to reunify families on the immigration-themed day next week. i know you were involved in some efforts to ask the trump administration for information to try to find the parents of those, by our count, 611 children still separated. have you been in touch with the biden administration? with the officials now about that plan? >> so, they say it's generally been talking to the biden administration. but we have not had talks since biden became president on specifically what the task force will do. if you welcome the task force, but i think it remains to be seen precisely what the task force will do. as jacob mentioned, the beginning is finding the parents of the remaining 611 children. but there is much more to do. we hope the task force will not stop at just trying to find the remaining families. by our count we brought the
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litigation in 2018. by our count there have been more than 5500 families separated. that's all that we know about from the trump administration. we need all of those families to get relief. we need the parents to be brought back to the u.s. to reunite, those we haven't found when we do find them and those we already found, that the trump administration would not reunite, once they're here, we need to stop deportation to give them some path to legal citizenship. we need to provide meaningful benefits for them, including trauma-related relief and most of all, we need to ensure that there is never family separation again. we need transparency and accountability overlaying all of those asks. >> let me ask you about this 100-day pause on some deportation. president trump is facing criticism around the obama administration's record on deportations. are you satisfied with that pause for now? >> well, i think eighth good start. i think we're financial to have to see what ultimately comes from it. and i would just be clear that
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while we welcome the pause, it does not cover everyone and there are still children and families who it looks like are not covered, who will be barred from entering, including asylum seeking children. because they're barred by the ban the trump administration put in based on covid, which we think was an override of what cdc actually wanted. but by the trump administration white house. so i think it remains to be seen what exactly the pause will do. but the pause is only the first step. ultimately, those prioritys need to be made permanent and we will see how that play out. >> it's great to have you back on the show. thank you for your perspective. please keep us updated your organization may be having over the next eight days here with the biden team. thank you. >> absolutely. we got some developing news now coming if from our white house team. related to that question you heard at the press briefing last night about president biden and
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christopher wray as fbi director. we will have much more with that new reporting just into our newsroom. we will be talking about other top priorities for president biden, including, for example, that ambitious goal of giving 1 million covid shots in 100 days. we will take you to michigan where people are absolutely desperate for the shot. plus, tackling climate change. something else the president wants to do. what is happening now to try to combat global warping. w to try combat global warping. u're in t. my seminars are a great tool to help young homeowners who are turning into their parents. now, remember, they're not programs. they're tv shows. you woke up early. no one cares. yes. so, i was using something called homequote explorer from progressive to easily compare home insurance rates. was i hashtagging? progressive can't help you from becoming your parents, but we can help you compare rates on home insurance with homequote explorer. guess what. the waiter doesn't need to know your name.
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alone. we are at the testing site. talk to us on the front lines about the administration's new strategy. >> reporter: halle, this was a shutdown at series's auto center, but they turned it into a vaccination center. you see all of these cars lined up here, they are waiting to get the vaccine. they pop in through these garage-style doors here. they get the shot in the arm. they go out the other end, fast, easy, great, right? the problem is, the ceo here tells me that at this rate, it's going to be about three years before all of michigan gets vaccinated. he says, they're just not getting enough supply, they're not getting enough information about how much supplies they are getting. so it's hard to plan for things like this. but, after yesterday's inauguration, i heard a huge shift from the health officials. i spoke to the county health director here. who told me she was burstting with releaf, crying tears of joy listening to this new president
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tackling the virus. she had a couple messages for him. take a listen. >> what does the biden administration need to understand about michigan and what areas like this one? >> well, i think one of the big things that biden needs to understand and i hope he already does, is there is some sort of a narrative at the national level that we're sending all this vaccine out and the states just aren't getting it administered. that is not true. every single vaccine we get, we get into an arm. we are ready. we are organized. >> reporter: i also ran into the mayor of lansing, who says his city has taken a huge economic hit. he need help from the federal government. he is hoping this white house will be a partner for him. >> dash that burns, live there in lansing. thank you. we want to go back to that developing news from the white house. peter, you were one of the people who pressed the white house last night about the future of fbi director christopher wray. you didn't get an answer then.
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are you getting one now? >> reporter: first of all, the headlines i am told by a white house official is president biden will keep fbi director christopher wray in his post as the head of the bureau of federal investigation. this questions you note raised some eyebrows just yesterday when i asked in her debut briefing, the president, the new president had confidence in the fbi director, who, of course, was appointed under president trump. she declined to answer it on two occasions. that's why we went back to the white house for clarity on that. last night, nbc news did reporting. we were told by a senior law enforcement officials that they had received no indications that the biden administration was not satisfied. the president was not satisfied with the work of christopher wray. fbi directors serve ten-year terms to give them a measure of inches. as we learned in the case of former fbi director james comey, they can be fired by presidents.
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it is clear now that that's not the plan of joe biden at this point. there has been some criticism of wray more recently by the trump administration. they were frustrated by handling his claims of election voter fraud. more recently, frustrations with christopher wray perhaps they failed to capture the urgency behind the capitol riots that took place, just two weeks and a day ago. >> chief white house correspondent peter alexander. thank you much for that reporting, my friend. appreciate it. president biden inside the white house is right now dealing with something every new president deals with. right? how much of these first few hours should be about if you policies versus undoing old ones? take a listen to this quick exchange i had with a senior adviser. how much of this is about reversing things that president trump did versus trying to make progress and move forward on president biden's own terms?
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>> 100% of it, it's about moving forward and putting the american people first. >> so, one of the ways the administration is trying to move forward is by making several issues their focus. covid, the economy, racial inequality, the climate crisis. but former president trump may have made it a little harder to move forward on climate, right, when he was in office, he rolled back more than 100 environmental rules in the obama administration, leaving that as the starting point now for this new administration to confront climate crisis. six of the 17 actions addressed reversing those rollbacks, trying to put the u.s. in a place where the biden administration believes climate crisis action can start. i want to bring in nbc news' chief environment am affairs correspondent anne thompson. it's great to have you on the show. talk to us about the immediate impacts of some of these actions and how they are received around the world and at home? >> i think the biggest one is the fact that the u.s. has rejoined the paris agreement.
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that is the world wide agreement to reduce gassings. you remember the u.s. agreed to reduce it own greenhouse gases 26-to-28% compared to 2005 levels. well, today, the climate envoy, the former secretary of state, said that is a floor, not a ceiling, which signals to the rest of the world but not only is the u.s. back in the climate game, it is going to lead. it is very serious about that. and that is something that the u.s. has to do because as you remember president trump pulled out of the paris agreement. the u.s. stood alone and received quite a bit of criticism. the fact the u.s. is getting back into the paris agreement is being heralded around the world, because the world wants u.s. leadership on climate. >> anne thompson, live for us there. thank you very much for that. back on capitol hill here in washington, we are watching for
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house speaker nancy pelosi to maybe finally tell everybody when she plans to send that article of impeachment to the senate. you are looking live now at the election, where she is set to speak any minute now. up next on this show, we await the future of qanon in the post-trump world. don't go anywhere. non in the post-trump world don't go anywhere.
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you are looking at a live shot now of the capitol briefing room. nancy pelosi is just beginning her remarks, her first weekly briefing of the joe biden presidency. we expect her to speak about how she will move ahead with the new president's agenda. we will listen in. we will bring that you when it happens. only when that happens can the senate start actually trying the case against the former president. we are listening in on this. we will bring you news as it happens. you have something else happening not on camera, but
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behind the scenes on the internet. qanon conspiracy theorists waking up in a different world. donald trump did not declare martial law. president biden and other top democrats were not arrested on the scene. there was no unmasking of a shadowy world. those of us who live in reality knew what would happen. the inauguration of biden and harris, that left qanon scrambling. now having no other choice but to write off the conspiracy theory entirely. others expanding their belief to something else, something bigger. is qanon over or just over for now? was it just the friends they made along the way? explain how inauguration day and the 23 hours since unfolded on the chat rooms? what's the deal today? where does this go?
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>> yeah. qanon started with much jubilation. it was supposed to be the military taking over, execution of their enemies, trump reinstated. that bviously didn't happen. the chat rooms were in deep depression. people are saying, it's over, nothing makes sense, saying they had hope and they have no hope anymore. the reactions we saw fell into three buckets. the first, like you said, people are sticking with q. people are pushing the goalposts. they meant the 27th or it's the end of the month or it's really 2025. you will see this. people gathering around the wreckage like they always do. the second thing that's concerning is we are seeing people recruited from qanon groups by more extreme groups.
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white supremacists are actively recruiting in these channels. the third bucket we are seeing is people like you said just annoyed, fed up, giving up. one of the major influencers is this guy ron watkins. he ran the message board where q posted. he basically threw in the towel yesterday. these are the groups that i think we have some hope for de-radicalization with. there might be an off ramp. >> thank you much. we want to take you to house speaker nancy pelosi who is about to make news here. she's speaking on a day, the first day she's no longer the most powerful woman in washington. that title now belongs to the new vice president, kamala harris. let's listen to speaker pelosi. >> today our nation marks the passing of the 400,000 people --
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that was yesterday, 400,000 people died. today marks one year since our first knowledge of this pandemic. what did we learn this morning? we learned this morning that the trump administration had no real plan for the production and distribution of the vaccine. just another in a series of their terrible, ineffective approach to it from the start, and denial, delay, distortion, calling it a hoax. now we find that they don't -- they didn't even have a plan. as we go forward though, we see immediately that joe biden, president biden has put forth a plan to crush the coronavirus. you know what that is. yesterday he talked about it in his executive actions when he
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talks about wearing masks, distancing, science-based approaches. today, he will sign further orders. my understanding is to use the defense production act to speed up ppe delivery, to expand testing, treatment and public health workforce that we need and launch a vaccination campaign. all of this to more safely open up schools and businesses and prove health equity, something the republicans would erase from my bill, addressing the disparity and treatment and testing and, therefore, the disparity in incidents of covid-19 in communities of color. as we salute these actions, we are getting ready for covid relief. we will be working on a package as we go.
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as you probably have seen, mr. hoyer announced as we work on these issues, we won't be back in session until the beginning of february. february 1st or 2nd? we will be doing -- we will be doing our committee work all next week so that we are completely ready to go to the floor when we come back. and then, the covid proposals from the administration build on many of the initiatives that were in our packages all along. it's what the people need, what the country needs to crush the virus. put money in the pockets of the american people and honor our heroes. we are talk being largeing abou actions. i mentioned the covid package. we are pleased to see the president and administration come forward with an immigration
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proposal. pleased in the house linda sanchez will take the lead. senator menendez in the senate. it has basic principals. we will see what the timetable is on that. today, we are in session to vote on the austin waiver. it's a waiver so that general lloyd austin can serve as secretary of defense. as i have said, general austin is a highly qualiied and well-respected leader with over 40 years of decorated service. he brings a great understanding of the challenges facing our nation's defenses and the sacrifice of our men and women in uniform and their families. once the waiver is approved, i feel confident that the senate will confirm the general as secretary of defense. civilian control of the military
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is not an issue for us. it is a principal. we are pleased that unlike the trump administration, the biden administration not only allowed but encouraged the general to come and present his views, which is happening right now. in armed services committee. again, a very happy time. i'm very proud of our members. before i came here, i was in a session that was made available for members and staff about the trauma of what happened on january 6th. talked about physical trauma, psychological trauma, vicarious trauma and the rest. when the press saw my office and the rest and asked about things that were stolen, glass that was broken, just violation

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