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i've been deeply involved in this community, in this state, and i feel very good about it, felt good about it from the beginning. it's been the launching pad for barack. i believe it will be for me. we'll see how much i have to win by. i don't want to jinchs myself. i think i'll do well. >> the campaign has repeatedly pointed to south carolina as biden's fail-safe. now they're saying a win here will give him the momentum he needs to clean up in key congressional districts across super tuesday states, enough they hope to keep both bernie sanders and mike bloomberg at bay. joining me now to start the discussion here in charleston is nbc news national political reporter and senior writer. it is lovely to see you in that state. >> fancy seeing you. >> we're lucky to be here. joe biden is now feeling the -- the campaign is feeling better than i have seen them feel in a
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month. >> well, that wouldn't be difficult. because they got fourth and fifth place in two key states early on. this is an improvement. the question is where does he go from here? a new poll in the los angeles times showed bernie sanders with a commanding 20 point lead in the most important state, california is the most important state. so again the question is simple, where else does he pick up victories, make headway? north carolina is a place he can. he's tied with bernie sanders in the state of texas. >> the campaign says if they do well here they'll be able to parlay that into doing well in key congressional districts across super tuesday states. they're not saying they're going to win any particular state but they do believe they can pick up enough delegates to maker it so that bernie sanders does not have a commanding lead? >> that depends on how well they do here.
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a four-point victory as our poll just showed is different from a 20 point victory which the monmouth showed. it's a critical test of the african-american community. if he wins that by 15 points that's different than 30 or 40. a margin of his victory will matter in states like north carolina, oklahoma and into super tuesday. right now bernie sanders is the freight train barreling toward the nomination, dominating in california but also leading in texas. sanders is the person to stop, and that's partly because he's very, very strong with hispanic voters. >> do you get a sense when democratic voters are looking at the field and seeing both bernie sanders running away with it, michael bloomberg spending more money than god, and the rest of the democratic field splintering, are they making the calculation, if they want someone not bernie sanders, they've got to go for the next person in line that they think can get enough delegates, votes?
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is that going to be a warren, klobuchar or steyer? >> i think that's complex. i think it's like a bank shot. but in reality that field needs to start getting winnowed down. voters are pretty well set in a lot of their decisions, number one. number two, the question is can joe biden turn this into an opportunity to raise some money, critical for him going forward and for every candidate going forward? can he make the case to donors that he's going to go beyond south carolina, that he has places to go beyond south carolina. >> we've got a baby squealing behind you clearly liking what you're saying. they say you've raised $2 million since the last. i asked them the bern rate, they refused to say, saying everybody is trying to spend all they can in the super tuesday states. south carolina is on saturday. super tuesday three days after that. >> right. there are democratic donors
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hearing from a lot of the campaigns, hang on for awhile. we'll do well. my sense is and my reporting suggests a lot will wait until super tuesday to see who is strong and not. joe biden needs a commanding foreign affairs in south carolina. he needs to do well on super tuesday so the money comes in for him, pete buttigieg, elizabeth warren. it's starting to dry out for bernie sanders. >> mike bloomberg's strategy was predicated on doing well on super tuesday and the tuesday that follows. if he's not able to, what is the continued case for his candidacy. >> and on biden collapsing. >> yes. and he's not doing that. >> other than the debate and in nevada, joe biden came in second, is pointing to a moment in a cnn town hall where he talked about how he's been able to keep his faith despite all of the loss he's experienced in his life. let's play that. >> the way i've been able to deal with it when my wife was killed and daughter was killed
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and then my son died, i've only been able to deal with it by realizing they're part of my being. my son beau is my soul. he asked me when he was dying, promise me, dad, promise me, dad, promise me, he said i know no one loves me more than you do, dad. but promise me you'll stay engaged. took a long time for me to get to the point to realize that that purpose is the thing that would save me, and it has. every morning i get up and say to myself when i give you my word as a biden, i hope he's proud of me. >> have we been seeing a different joe biden the last week or so? >> i think in that instance, yes. but i this, and you could probably expand on this more, every time i've seen him he's talked about loss in his life and how he's rebounded from that loss. i saw it in new hampshire where he clearly didn't do well, but i think that's been a central calling card of his candidacy. and i think he's moved beyond
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some of these stumbles like saying he's running for the senate. he admitted he was not indeed arrested in south africa. clearing up those was beneficial. >> it seems like he's getting leeway more than other candidates might get, maybe than a warren might get? >> i think so. he has a brand of his own. people like that tend to get away with things that others don't. it was a powerful moment. there are few things as raw and authentic about joe biden talking about grief because he's been through so much of it. there are many voters on the rope line with him that connect with him on that front. i don't think this was a political calculation. you could see the sincerity on his face. >> i believe was karen tummelty a few weeks ago back in iowa or new hampshire, there are two running this, the joe biden on the stump and on the rope line, you see engaging with voters. that was the rope line, talking about directly about what he's
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experienced. good to see you, good to see you as well. and the unexpected wild card for joe biden here in south carolina is billionaire not mike bloomberg but tom steyer. according to the state, he has spent at least $10 million on tv ads in south carolina alone. and voters like stan, who i met a little bit earlier today, have noticed. >> why tom steyer? >> because i like tom. i like the way the things that he say on tv with all the things they can do. i like the thing that he say he going to kick trump [ bleep ]. >> in november are you voting for whoever the democratic is? >> yes. >> joining me now, 2020 presidential candidate tom steyer. tom, welcome to the show. thanks for being on. you spent a whole lot of money in this state trying to introduce yourself to voters. it's worked for voters like stan. what do you do after this state is over? say you come in second, third,
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how do you parlay that into or fourth -- how do you parlay that into super tuesday? >> well, katy let me say, i haven't just spent money here. i've been here more than any other candidate. i've looked in the eyes of more people like stan than anybody else. and i've come here to listen to actually go and see what's going on in terms of economic, racial and environmental justice in the state of south carolina, because i care about those things and wanted to hear directly from the people. if i in fact do really well tomorrow, then i think that shows that i can pull together the diverse democratic coalition, and people can believe that as a progressive democrat who on two of those three issues is the most progressive in the race, i can bridge the divide between bernie sanders and mike bloomberg and pull the party together across racial, ethnic and philosophical lines, and let us beat donald trump, which is the key thing in november of 2020.
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>> what do you define as doing really well? >> honestly, i don't know. it's funny because people ask me that question. i say, look, we're talking about a horse race, but i'm the horse. i'm trying to run as fast as i can, see as many people in south carolina as i can. i'm not trying to be the jockey, and i'm not trying to be the announcer or the writer for the racing forum. i'm the person who's trying to talk to as many people and talk about what i care about. i'm doing this because i care, and i've worked for decades on economic justice, racial justice and environmental justice. i really care to start a state of emergency on climate on day one. i care about that. that's not something i'm talking about to get votes. that's something i'm doing because that's in my heart. i care about reparations for slavery because i've worked on racial justice for, you know, over decades. and i care about it. when i see people living on
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$7.25, it hurts me. i listen to what they can't afford. i listen to people dying because of lack of health care. i'm in this because i care about the issues, and i'm trying to talk to people directly and listen to them and push for the things that really are in my heart. >> you don't have any delegates yet. i don't know how you will do here tomorrow. but in looking ahead, if for some reason you do not make it out of this state or you don't make it out of super tuesday, how do you want the race to change? what are you doing in order to get your messaging out there to move the democratic party in a direction? is there something that you would say o would be a success if a candidate took up x plan or y plan? >> i'm the only person talking about declaring a state of emergency on climate on day one. i'm the only one talking about reparations for slavery. i'm the one who wants to cut
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taxes by 10% for everyone in the united states who makes less than $250,000. the stuff i'm pushing for is basic transformational justice for the united states that we can easily afford that to me is in the heart of what being an american is about, about justice, equality and freedom. and so i'm pushing for the whole package of, turn the page on a failed 40-year republican revolution, started by ronald reagan that was based on a series of untruths, and get back to the idea that americans invest on each other and succeed together. that's what i'm pushing for. it's a whole pack age, katy. it's what's in my heart and i believe it's what americans want. >> you referenced on that system, unequal system that you mentioned to a voter, but you brought up joe biden in that context. let me play that sound bite. >> there's actually a difference me and joe biden, and that's it. i'm a progressive. i deeply believe that we are in
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a framework in america set by ronald rooeng. and it's terrible. the framework is low taxes, small government, because government is bad. fight unions, $7.25 minimum wage, that's outrageous. that is outrageous. >> tell me this, is it your message to voters here in south carolina that if they want a progressive, systemic change, that you are the candidate, not joe biden? are you calling joe biden the candidate of the status quo? >> look, i think there's no question that he's someone who is a moderate, who said that he believes that we should go back to the old time washington, that he believes he can work with republicans to get the kinds of changes he believes in. he is not talking about declaring a state of emergency on climate. he is not talking about reparations for slavery.
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he is not talking about cutting taxes for working people and middle class people. he is talking about much more modest incremental change than i am. that's the truth. i'm that person who's for transformational change, who believes that we need to go out on the grassroots and turn out tens of millions of more people to sweep away when i think has been a tragically and zrafrtrously unfair system started by ronald reasoning and perpetuated for 40 years. i think i'm in a completely different position with regard to change and transformational change than joe biden. i don't think there's any question about it. >> are you saying you cannot work with the republicans? >> look, i have nothing whatsoever against republican voters. but what we've seen in d.c., over an extended period of time, is a republican party that's extreme, intransi gent, and unwilling to meet in anything
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like a reasonable place. that was true for eight years of the obama administration. i think barack obama is one of the calmest, most objective, no drama obamaa. he could never get a deal from republicans on anything. they absolutely blocked his ability to get federal judges, including a supreme court justice. they literally just last month roe fooused to allow evidence into the impeachment trial, refused to allow witnesses, announced the president was innocent before the trial. >> what do you do -- if you cannot work with republicans, how do you govern? >> i think what we have to do is go out and win at the grassroots. i hate to be rude, but president obama couldn't work with them. we went through eight years with 0o compromises where they refused to do things that would be good for the united states of america because they they'd thought be good for the democratic party. that was a consistent eight-year procedure and it hasn't stop. so when you say, you're looking at me, and i think this is hojts
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a consistent attitude of people in the media saying, why can't you get along with republicans? i want you to go on tv and ask mitch mcconnell why he's never gotten involved with democrats. >> i would love to ask him that question. but tom. >> i know. >> i would love to ask him that question. he's not coming on and letting me. >> that's why i'm teasing you. >> in the system we have, the democrats unless they have a super majority in the senate and a majority in the house and the presidency, they need to work with republicans to get things done. and if that doesn't happen, are you saying that nothing is going to continue to happen with you as president? >> i believe katy what i said was, i would declare a state of emergency on climate on day one. >> you would do it -- >> the president can -- >> you would use executive orders? >> yes, i would. the president can do a lot on his or her own. and climate we absolutely have to get going on day one. but i do honestly believe it is
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quite symptomatic of washington, d.c. that you have asked me two or three times why i can't get along with mitch mcconnell or don't i have to get along with mitch mcconnell, but no one has ever asked mitch mcconnell why he doesn't get along with democrats over decades. i believe that's exactly the negotiating posture democrats are pushed into and which they go along with, which is your job is to meet wherever republicans are willing to meet and that's not right. because that has led to us a disastrously unjust government that is broken, that can't even get background checks on gun purchases that 90% of americans have wanted for decades. that's the government. that's the mitch mcconnell, you know, lindsey graham, ted cruz government. there's, yes, i don't believe that that's a group of people who are willing to even discuss seriously the things that americans need. yep. >> tom steyer, tom, thanks so much for joining us. we appreciate it. good luck tomorrow. >> thank you, katy.
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a lot more ahead from charleston. super tuesday is four days away. there is no time for the candidates to linger. they are campaigning everywhere. coming up, the blitz. but first a whistle-blower complaint raises questions about how a california resident contracted the coronavirus? could the government be to blame? next.
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as health officials try to figure out how a patient in northern california contracted coronavirus despite not appearing to have any connection to it at all, we're learning more about the government's handling of quarantined patients coming in from china. yesterday a government whistle-blower complaint was revealed alleging u.s. workers assisted with coronavirus evacuees without protective gear in solano county, california, at travis air force base. the compliant says hhs staffers were improperly deployed and not
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properly trained or equipped to operate in a public health emergency situation. they had face-to-face contact with returning passengers, and that appropriate steps were not taken to quarantine, monitor or test the workers during their deployment and upon their return home. as for a connection between the whistle-blower's account and newly confirmed patient, california congressman john guerinmendy said this. >> i want to be very clear, do you believe do you suspect that there perhaps is a link to the actions that this whistle-blower has alleged and the patient in your community who has contracted coronavirus? >> the answer will inevitably be yes. how else did this illness get into the community? most likely, high probability, it came from the patient's, the evacuees brought to travis air force base. >> joining me now from capital hill, jimmy gomez, his office
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received the whistle-blower report this week. thank you very much for being here. in looking at this timeline and the whistle-blower complaint, what questions do you have? >> first, katy, i want to be very clear that we don't know how that individual in northern california contracted the coronavirus. we don't want to speculate on that. at the same time, my office was contacted by a whistle-blower last week, and informed me of what was going on at the ground at travis air force base, workers didn't have the appropriate protective gear. i've been trying to push that the employees of health and human services that were there are getting the tests that they need to confirm if they have coronavirus or not. and i do not believe that they have received those tests. yesterday in ways and means, the committee of jurisdiction of health and human services, especially this repatriation
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program, the secretary azar mentioned if there was protocol's broken they were going to investigate. we're pub pushing that that occurs right away. >> do you know if steps have been taken since then for health and human services workers to deal with potential patients that could be coming in overseas? i know that you said secretary azar said there would be an investigation. have there been processes put in place since then to ensure this doesn't happen again? >> well, that's the point. there was -- the protocols were supposed to be there from the very beginning so none of this would occur. you had health and human services employees who felt that their health was being put at risk and that they could make a serious situation even worse. so we're trying to confirm that there is follow-up. that's why we're pushing the secretary to investigate. we're pushing the secretary to test these health and human services employees. because we want to make sure that they're not infected. and here, i want to be very,
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very clear. you know, today i was at a briefing with the cdc, and they said that half the patients on the cruise ships, you know, never -- they were infected but never showed any symptoms whatsoever. so that means that these employees don't necessarily automatically get sick if they get infected and they could be transmitting the disease. we need to move and we need to move quick to protect the public and these individuals. >> do you know if these employees are being traced, if their movements in california and movements since handling those patients are being traced to make sure that this woman who's at uc davis didn't come into contact with them? i don't want to -- i know you don't want to speculate about how she may have contracted the disease. but are they trying to rule out or even confirm that it was through one of those workers? >> and that's what i'm trying to get to the bottom of. i want them to trace every single one of these employees, how they got back to their home bases. some, they're all over the
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country. did they travel on commercial airlines? one of the reports says one traveled on a commercial airline. we want to know exactly where they traveled to, where they were located, and if there was interactiontion. that's what i'm trying to push, to kind of unravel this mystery when it comes to these health and human services employees. they got to work quickly, because if they don't, we don't know if they're currently infecting other people. so we want to push and make sure they're taking the appropriate precussions. >> california congressman jimmy gomez, thank you very much for joining us. meanwhile hospitals around the country are preparing for the coronavirus by training staff and readying supplies on hand. joining me now here in charleston is dr. scott curry, an infoeshs decease specialist. thank you very much for joining us. i know certainly i thought about this when i was getting on a plane last night to come down here. we've seen people wearing masks on planes.
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there is a heightened feeling of maybe i shouldn't go to populated areas or do i want to touch this? can you just give us some good advice on how we should be operating within the concern about this virus spreading? >> sure. well, this is sort of a unique opportunity to highlight how infection control needs to happen all the time. we always deal with influenza risk all year round. it's not any different for any advice we give for corona virus 19. handwashing is critical to avoid spreading this in the context we're worried about these asymptomatic individuals. even if you're asymptomatic, washing your hands before you touch other stuff is going to have some good for others. >> the cdc is changing some of the guidelines. do you think that's enough? >> they have to because the cdc has, as of yesterday, switched
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their orientation from containment to readiness. there's no way we can contain the spread of this virus in the urts. as we know, from the chinese operation, that 80% of individuals have no symptoms or barely any symptoms or just have a mild cold. we don't have guidance to do covid-19 testing. >> why not. >> there is no test we can do on those individuals on a large scale. the cdc and a few state health labs and the cdc are the only ones equipped to run the tests. >> how quick can they make it so hospitals like yours can easily a administer these tests? >> it's going take a couple of months in the best case scenario for the tests, to work forward and get those developed. >> if you come down with flew like symptoms, what is your suggestion? >> we are shifting. this is not official yet but
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most of the hospitals are shifting to if you're not feeling sick enough to be in the e.r. like you're going to have to be hospitalized, try to tough it out at home because we don't have any infrastructure to evaluate anybody safely for influenza versus covid-19 in a lot of centers in the united states right now. >> there are questions about whether the flu shot helps fight it? >> it does not. >> it does not? >> it helps prevent influenza or make it less severe which is always a good thing, because we are still deep into flu season here in south carolina and everywhere else in the united states, and we need to be aware that influenza is just as likely right now as -- or certainly more likely than covid-19 in a u.s. e.r. setting right now. >> what is your reaction to the whistle-blower complaint? >> it's understandable that there is a lack of preparedness for what is a lack of preparedness, if there were health care workers trying to assess and transport someone
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with a high risk of covid-19. but we have to realize right now there's probably an unknown number of individuals in the united states affected right now. they are going to be interacting with health care workers and nonhealth care workers all over the country without any protection whatsoever. >> wash your hands. dr. scott curry, thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate your expertise. ahead back to 2020, tomorrow is the south carolina primary, so why is bernie sanders will are left the state? >> first south carolina voters are pretty good at predicting the eventual nominee. the will that prove to be the case this time as well? back live from charleston right after the break. ♪ limu emu & doug
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voas the republicansupported mayor of new york city. bloomberg: they are male, minorities, 16 to 25, you can just take the description xerox it and pass it out to all the cops, throw them against the wall and frisk them. vo: and he blamed the end of discriminatory mortgage practices for the financial crisis. bloomberg: redlining if you remember was the term and don't go into those areas and then congress got involved and local elections were as well and congress said it was not fair, people should be allowed to get credit. vo: those policies were racist, and mike bloomberg was wrong to support them. but, thankfully, there is a better way tom steyer will be a president for all of america. tom will use his experience starting a non-profit bank for underserved communities and fighting for clean air and water in black and brown communities across the country to put social, economic, and climate justice at the heart of his presidency. that's how we make real change. steyer: i'm tom steyer and i approve this message.
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what's your number one issue other than beating trump? >> beating trump. >> that's your number one and two. >> number one and two. >> why? >> because i think that we deserve a better person running this country. >> welcome back, we're live in charleston, south carolina where there is just one day left until the primary.
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south carolina has an almost perfect record. the state has voted for the eventually nominee from the democratic side all by one since 19 sflou. the exception was john edwards in 2004, although he was not the nominee he was on the ticket that would be vice president to john kerry. we know how that ended. joining me now former chairman of the south carolina republican party, katon dasan, and the co-founder cliff albright. cliff, i want to start with you. what you are you expecting to see tomorrow in the primary? >> we're expecting to see big turnout. we've got three groups going around the state, three groups of folks we've talked to. one group is really looking for somebody out of fear they think other voters will be comfortable with. they tend to lean towards the more moderate, leading with joe biden. then you've got the group looking for somebody speaking to their interests. the issues this they deal with
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every day. they tend to lean towards the more grprogressive candidates. bernie, steyer, elizabeth warren. then the group, give me a call in november and i'll show you. >> do all three coalesce around whichever candidate it ends up being? >> i think ultimately they will. but you always have the danger there will be some that are so focused on their interests as riflely they should be, that they might not be motivated to turn out. when you add in some of the confusing messages that you're getting from the other side that is trying to pick off not a lot but 1, 2, 3%, that can make the difference. >> walking around town you still see trump/pence signs from 2016. i talked to a voter a moment ago who said that they voted for trump in 2016. they might vote for him again. they don't particularly like the way he composes himself. is south carolina still trump
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country? >> oh, my goodness, is it more tran ever. what you found is they don't like his manners and the way he does that but they like his policies. that's what we found in the polling. the democrats get the welcome to our world four years ago, where there were poeople that wanted cruise. we were going to go down in fleams. now he's probably the only guy that can beat -- any time you have the puppet masters in the political organizations start saying what's going to be good, not good, it turns out to be bob dole's nominated. >> speak in plain language. who are you talking about? >> i'm talking about the people who keep telling everybody that bernie is going to destroy the party. we were doing the same thing. you got to let the voters speak here. you got to let them come make that -- jim clyburn endorsement
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was huge. >> for joe biden. >> it is really huge. it's pulled him up again. how far, i'm not sure. we're going to watch the numbers for our side to look downrange what happens. if with he don't see over 500,000 voters in this primary, it will tell us something. >> what do you make of that? >> i think this is a state that's used to making history. a lot of people know the first of the cases that ultimately became brown versus board of ed originated here in south carolina. folks here are used to acting out of their interests and issues, out of their hope and faith, and out of love in order to push the country forward. that's always been the way that black folks in this country have made america be closer to the democracy that it's supposed to be. >> is there a generational divide among biden supporters? are the older folks in the black community more likely to support biden and the younger folks more likely to go for someone like a bernie sanders or tom steyer? people talk about a jernrational
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divide. are you seeing that? >> yeah. we have to speak to it. the older voters, well, it's because they're more pragmatic, have a closer relationship to some of the fear of what could be, or whether they are more reminiscent or nostalgic of biden in the obama years, there's a divide. >> one of the things that people don't understand about what i think the african-american vote is here, tomorrow it's going to be the most conservative vote in that primary, is going to be the african-american, socially and physically. they'reust always follow the advice of people. they're going to weigh it out, looking look at it, especially female african-american voters, they're a serious voting block. they're going to do what they need to do, and who they know i think the average tomorrow is 56 years old is going to be in that primary.
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there could be some surprises. >> what do you make of the shenanigans, people trying to pull those, who say it's open, i'm going to go vote for the weakest candidate against donald trump, people that think bernie sanders might be, republicans voting for a democrat they think they can lose? >> i was chairman of the republican party for eight years, we had a lot of money. i tried that in 2004. i had real money behind it and tried. we were scared of john edwards, not john kerry in 2004. we were not scared of a massachusetts senator. looked like george bush. my point is we tried. i spent money. republicans told me, man, we tried but couldn't get out the car. you might get a couple of hundred republicans to try to go down it. it's finance our nature. this one is an effort with a nice catchy name. but there's a group that wants registration by party and are
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trying to make that case. >> i think the better example, i'm old enough to remember four years ago where democrats were trying to do the same thing with donald trump because they wanted trump to be the nominee, because -- >> you better be careful what you do. >> be careful what you wish for. thank you guys so much for joining us and helping us shed light on what happens here. if you need proof of how climate change is impacting america's coastlines, you need to look no further than right here in charleston. cal perry will join me with a look at how climate change will factor into the primary tomorrow. do not discount that, when we return live from south carolina.
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cal perry. i know you focus a lot on climate issues across the country. charleston is one of those cities that will be directly affected by it, has been? >> probably more so than most. we're sitting between nine and ten feet above sea level. 79 times in the last year we saw flooding, sometimes on perfectly sunny days. unlike in other cities where only people along the water worry, everyone here worries. we're starting to see very significant and scary signs of what's to come. listen to a professor from the college of charleston. we went to a forest that's now becoming a beach. take a listen. >> they tell us the city is going to go underwater sooner than later. if we really value the city we ought to think about what parts are we going to retreat to. you're not going to stop climate change, stop sea level rise.
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>> and i think this gets to the point of the conversation the country is having, which is we're going to have to make hard choices. the mayor thinks it will take $2 billion to save the downtown area. that doesn't account for outer islands where people are being displaced. it's becoming a housing and economic issue here. >> is that one of the reasons tom steyer is doing well here? >> probably. i think for people who live here it's more acute than in other parts of the country. that would explain why he's doing well here. bernie is doing well around the college of charleston because he seems to have carved out that lane or made it clear to the students that that's something he's going to pay attention to. >> when you talk to voirtsz, is it more the younger voters that are worried about climate change or are you encounterering oileder voters? >> it is 100% the young voters. at least here. it seems like significant university style students, that seems to be who's worried. when it didn't come up in the
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debate, they were asking why. the local paper wrote, if not here, where? >> i was talking to a republican op rawtive who was saying the 81 issue democrats could siphon republicans off with was the climate change, not on the economy, health care, but on climate change. >> because he's denying it's taking place and the science. i think there are enough republicans who are seeing the water rise. this city is about to carve out $2 billion to raise that seawall. it's obvious. >> always good to see you. thank you so much. >> thank you. next up, bernie sanders is leaving south carolina tonight ahead of tomorrow's primary. what should we read from that? coming up next when we're back live from charleston right after a very quick break.
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rally for the senator shortly. mr. mayor, thank you for taking a time to talk to us. we appreciate it. sanders will not be here tomorrow night. instead he is going to be doing super tuesday rounds. why is that? >> well, you know, i believe that we understand that the campaign has to continue. he has had great presence here in south carolina from what i understand. i'm happy to join the team and move forward putting out a message of restoretive justice and focusing on the things that communities need across the country. >> your town caucuses to endorse bernie sanders. tell me why. >> well, we believe in the idea of collective genius in jackson, mississippi. thes a principle objective that we have employed since i took office, actually before i took office where we have people's assemblies focus on what community concerns are present. hearing from the community and
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also returning information to community, having an exchange of ideas. and so we employed that same strategy in the selection of what we would endorse and the community in jackson, mississippi, overwhelmingly selected senator sanders for endorsement. >> conventional wisdom is that a democratic socialist cannot do that well in the south. is that true? >> i don't believe that is the case. i believe that people are desiring big ideas. in fact, i ran on an unapologetically progressive platform when i ran for mayor. and won overwhelmingly at that time. i've been very, very grateful for that. but i think that the people are in need of something new. we need to be able to talk about issues of restoretive justice, economic justice, what people are suffering from. in mississippi, whether we're told that the economy is succeeding or whether it's on a downturn, we've still been at the bottom and we recognize that
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we need more than just to be focused on who we don't want to be the president. we need to if kfocus on what we desire for the communities every single day. to steal words from a professor, we can't dismantle the world we don't want to live in. we must build the one we did. >> do you understand the worry of other democrats of down ballot candidates and a concern that bernie sanders would hurt chances to remain in control of the house or potentially even retake the senate? >> i think that's a shortsighted view. when we look at the populist that even donald trump took advantage of, he took from the script of bernie sanders and people are tired of the status quo. they want a candidate to speak of their interest, big ideas. we feel that this campaign represents the big ideas that are actually positive and move this nation forward. >> jackson, mississippi, mayor,
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thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate. do not forget to tune in tomorrow for our special coverage of the south carolina primary. it all starts at 6:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. and in a moment, we are live back in charleston, south carolina. stay with us. man: sneezes skip to the good part with alka-seltzer plus. now with 25% more concentrated power. nothing works faster for powerful cold relief. oh, what a relief it is! so fast! a clear plan for retirement to help cover the essentials, as well as all the things you want to do. because when you have a retirement partner who gives you clarity at every step, there's nothing to stop you from moving forward. stay two nights and get a free night for your next stay. one night, two nights, free night. book now at bestwestern.com.
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as we've mentioned a few times this hour, super tuesday is a few days away so after the south carolina primary our team is hopping on a plane heading to california, live monday and tuesday from santa monica. tune in and please do join us. but for now, that will wrap things up for me. ali velshi picks it up from the new york stock exchange. hi there, ali. >> thank you very much, katy. i'm down here at the new york stock exchange and headed for a fifth day of negative trading on the stock market. i got here a half hour ago and things looking yet more serious
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than now and then suddenly heard from the chair of the federal reserve and for a moment it looks like things were going the other way but there's more about that and talking about the all-important south carolina primarys that are tomorrow morning and the final preparations for that day make or break for some candidates and for others it is about keeping the momentum. of course, all of the stock market confusion and fear is bauftd spread of coronavirus. we have at least one case in california where we do not know where that came from. in other words, may be the first case of community transmission where somebody got coronavirus not from someone they knew. experts there are still trying to get a handle on it. health officials said it's only a matter of when, not if, that is going to happen and changes the dynamic and for once in our lives this is actually what's playing out in the stock market. i want to bring in my partner, when things like this happen, we have to talk about these

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