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viewers like you. thank you. announcer: and now, "bbc world news". laura: i am la. this is "bbc world news america." dramatic testimony from a whit house aide who said this or trump knew some of his supporters were armed and could turn violent january 6. throwing plates against the wall to grab the wheel of the presidential limousine, the january 6 inquiry into the capitol riot hears an explosive account of donald's attempt to stay in power. 50 migrants are found dead in san antonio, close to the u.s.-mexico border. u.k. socialite ghislaine maxwell is sentenced to 20 years and for helping jeffrey x -- jeffrey epstein abused teenage girls. turkey drops its position to sweden and finland joining the nato alliance which expands the bloc's border with russia.
♪ laura: welcome to "world is america" on pbs and around the globe. we begin an washington, d.c. with testimony from kassidy hutchinson, a former aide to president trump's chief of staff, who testified today under oath about mr. trump's behavior on january 6, 2021. when his supporters attacked the u.s. capitol. she revealed mr. tmp wanted to march on the capital with the crowd and tried to grab the wheel of the presidential limo from the secret service agent. kassidy hutchinson explained how mr. trump knew that some members of the crowd who came to his rally on january 6 were armed. >> i was part of a conversation, i was in the vicinity of a conversation where i overheard the president say something to the effect of, i don't care that
they have weapons, they are not here to hurt me, take the bags away. let my people in, they can march the capitol from here. let the people come in. laura: mags refer to the big metal detectors you see at large events. she also told the committee how her former boss, mark meadows, mr. trump chief of staff come in tried to get a pardon for himself after the riot, as did rudy giuliani. kassidy hutchinson testified how when mr. trump learned his attorney general had given an interview saying there was no evidence of voter fraud, he threw dishes at the wall of the dining room, and the president's valet came to fetch her. >> he motioned for me to come in and pointed towards the front of the room near the fireplace mantle and the tv where i first noticed there was ketchup dripping down the wall, and there was a shattered porcelain plate on the floor. the valet had articulated the
president was extremely angry at the attorney general's ap interview. and had thrown his lunch against the wall. laura: let's speak to our north america correspondent, anthony circa, who is with me now. kassidy hutchinson testified under oath but top republicans are dismissing her testimony as hearsay. how would you assess the significance of what she said today? anthony: some of it was secondhand, but some of it was firsthand. things she heard and saw in the white house. the committee early omade a point of showing where her office was, a few doors down from the oval office. how she essentially was the gatekeeper for the white house chief of staff, mark meadows. and the instant before the rally where donald trump acknowledged that people had weapons in the crowd outside, that is something she heard herself. there were instances where she heard it herself. some of it was hearsay but it is the responsibility of people who
were in the room or in that limousine to come forward and corroborate or refute what she has to say. this is in the court of law -- this is not the court of law, this is a hearing, and different circumstances and rules of evidence on the sort of thing. it is a political theater, not legal theater. laura: the committee did imply that people in mr. trump's world are engaged in possible witness tampering and even obstruction of justice. what did you make of that? anthony: it is a very serious charge. witness tampering could be something that is investigated by the justice department, threats against witnesses who will testify before congress as members of the committee said it should be taken very seriously. we know people who have crossed the president in the past have faced death threats on social media, and other venues. it is not beyond the realm of possibility that people who were testifying against him in these high-profile hearings could be exposed to those threats.
it will be interesting to see where that goes from here and what further evidence they can present. laura: because kassidy hutchinson's testimony is not corroborated, we have not heard the committee play any other testimony. do you think they will use her evidence to put pressure on other witnesses and what is mr. trump making of all of this? anthony: we heard that at the end of the hearing. you heard chairman bennie thompson come out and say, our door is open. anyone who have their memory jog by this or had a change of heart and has newfound courage, they need to come forward and talk. whether to corroborate or refute. donald trump has his own social media platforms, he has come out and condemned ms. hutchinson testimony, saying she is a phony and fraud, that she was angling for a job and upset she did not get a job from donald trump afterwards. a lot of it was boilerplate that we have heard from donald trump whenever anyone has come against him in public. laura: thank you so much for joining us. let's get more on the impact of today's hearing. we are joined by sarah longwell,
a republican strategist who conducts focus groups with voters from across the american political spectrum. telus, how do you think today's hearing will play with voters in your focus groups? sarah: it depends which voters you are talking about. when it comes to trump voters, they are going to say the same things that they said during the impeachment hearings and in fact, i have done two focus groups of trump voters since the hearings began. they basically say look, it is a dog and pony show, it is trying to get trump. there was something interesting about it. two things. the first is that, they are all aware it is happening. that is not always a given. oftentimes, the things we are consumed by in washington are not things voters are tracking. but they were very aware the hearings are going on. they know what they are about. the second thing that was interesting is that in both of these groups of trump voters,
nobody wanted to see donald trump run again in 2024. they wanted to move on. both from trump and this conversation around january 6. that is notable because i have done dozens and dozens of focus groups since january 6 occurred. in all of those groups, you can almost set your wah by it, there is always about half the group that wants to see donald trump run again in 2024, at least half the group. to have nobody in either of these groups want him to have -- want him to run again was notable. laura: cassidy hutchinson testified today that as an american, she was disgusted by january 6. and by the chants of "hang mike pence." in your focus groups, did trump voters think january 6 was a peaceful protest? sarah: some of them. it depends. some people say it was an unfortunate day. the biggest thing they do come of these voters, as they will say, it was unfortunate what happened, but what about the
black lives matter protests? what about democrats showing up at supreme court justice's houses? they sort of don't want to engage with it on its own terms. they would rather deflect. and they have this sense of almost grievance as though -- you will hear them say things like, the one time it is republicans, everybody chooses to focus on it. but when there is all of this other violence by democrats, nobody pays attention. there is sort of a self-preservation and affliction. the other thing you hear, a little less so now, but you used to hear a lot in the focus groups, was the idea that it was antifa or black lives matter, a false flag operation, that it was not done by trump supporters. i will say, there continues to be a persistent belief in the focus groups among trump voters that the 2020 election was fraudulent, in some way. that is because donald trump ke oeps beatf ing thertpas
do many republicans -- the drum, as do many republicans. voters believe it. laura: as a republican woman, how much pressure do you think cassidy hutchinson was under today,asically testifying about mr. trump and his male inner circle? sarah: this was such a brave thing to do. and you can really -- if you measure her bravery, you can measure it against the silence of all of the men, not just men, but the older career professionals, many of whom who have refused to testify, are in litigation with the january 6 committee, because they are refusing to testify, like her boss, mark meadows. i'm sure -- i know for a fact, we know this was one of the reasons they had to rush this hearing, is because she is under constant threat and pressure. one of things we heard at the hearing today that was notable, was the idea that there is
pressure being put on these witnesses. to have this young woman, who clearly -- look, she supported trump, and she supported his agenda. but clearly thought that what happened january 6 was too much, and she was wiing to tell the truth. laura: sarah longwell, thank you so much for joining us. to texas now where 50 migrants have been found dead in a truck on the outskirts of san antonio, in one othe worst tragedies of its kind here in the u.s. the truck was found over 100 miles from the u.s.-mexico border on a popular route for people smugglers. . three people have been arrested. our correspondent now reports. will: the site which greeted the emergency services when they opened the abandoned trailer was beyond graham. dozens of people had been trapped inside the unventilated lorry with no drinking water in listing -- blistering 40 degree heat. among the dead, a handful of survivors, including several children. they were rushed to an nearby hospal.
>> the patients we saw were hot to the touch. they were suffering from heat stroke, heat exhaustion, no signs of water in the vehicle, it was not refrigerated. we are not supposed to open up a truck and sea stacks of bodies in there. none of us come to work imagining that. will: the republican governor of texas was quick to blame the biden administration for the tragedy, accusing president biden of failing to enforce the law. yet the drug cartels which run these networks have abandoned vehicles with migrants inside many times before along the u.s.-mexico border, though rarely with so many victims. >> trailers like that, it is to get at least, if it is 100 outside, it goes to about 125 degrees inside without water, without air, without nothing. it's ridiculous. i cannot understand how drivers can do that. will: the migrants journey from central america to the u.s. is
often described as treacherous or risky. while there can be no clearer example of that risk than this, being left in a suffocating, airless truck on the side of the road. and no clearer illustration of the callousness of the criminal gangs who operate these people smuggling -- smuggling routes into texas. as the authorities continue to sift through the scene this morning, many families who fear their loved ones may have been in the truck face an awful weight. with conditions in central america so dire, many more young people will not be deterred from trying to reach the u.s. by this latest tragic attempt. will ground, bbc news, san antonio, texas. laura: i spoke to republican congressman tony gonzales who represents san antonio where the truck was found. and i asked him about that grim discovery. you have a sign behind you that says nothing is more important th family. what is your reaction to the
tragic deaths of at least 50 people, apparently illegal immigrants,rossing the border from mexico, who have died in your district? rep. gonzalez: it is heartbreaking, regardless of these people's legal status, is heartbreaking. no human should have to die in that manner, to be abandoned in over 100 degree weather. this is exactly what i am seeing in my district, the carnage day afr day and it has to stop. we have to come together and secure our border in the sake of helping innocent people who are trying to come up -- come over here for a better live -- left for themselves. laura: you have called for immigration reform and you have an 800 mile stretch along the u.s.-mexican border. you know more about this than anyone. would immigration reform give people a clear pathway, a legal seeoplwae tsmugglers? rep. gonzales: i think we need to do four things. immigration reform as part of that. the first thing we need to do by
securing our border is reimplement the pacer program. what this did was it allowed people to come over that were seeking a silent, to get their cases heard in days, not years. we have to add immigration dredges to the equation -- and to the equation. for those who do not qualify for asylum should be sent back to their country of origin. we have to increase the number of work visas. many of these people are coming over here not to be u.s. citizens, they are coming for economic purposes, or a better life for themselves. this is something the administration and congress should work together on. how do we start with work visas? laura: president trump tried to build a wall. president biden has tried to reverse his policies. governor greg abbott has sent state police and the national guard to the border. why do you think this is such an intractable problem? rep. gonzales: the reality is this administration has not dedicated the time and effort in solving the problem.
this gets solved in 30 days. 30 days, if you re-implement the pacer program. 30 days if you repatriate people that do not qualify for asylum, and you open up work visas. this is something -- in america, we have a work shortage, not just agriculture, in every industry. we should welcome those that want to come and live the american dream. but they need to have a legal route, instead of being smuggled in a train or smuggled in a boxcar, or a truck. they should be coming through the front door, and having a legal way to do that. this administration has failed that. laura: you have had two tragedies in texas in your region in the last month. the horrendous school shooting in uvalde. it must be a lot for you to deal with. rep. gonzales: our heart has been wrecked out over and over again. uvalde is 80 miles from the southern border. what people don't realize is our teachers, the border crisis is
at the forefront of things,, our teachers as they are getting ready for summer school, we are 60 days away and we are trying to get ready for school. there was a high-speed chase that went through uvalde. imagine you just wt through this horrific incident 30 days ago, then you get a text message that you have to lockdown in place. everyone is revisiting, reliving this horrific incident that has occurred, and it has not stopped. i think it starts with the administration and congress who need to come together and have real solutions. immigration reform startsith securing our border. laura: that was tony gonzales who represents that area of texas where those migrants were found dead, speaking to me earlier. ghislaine maxwell, the former girlfriend of the sex offender jeffrey epstein, as been sentenced to 20 years in. she was convicted last december of helping epstein abused teenage girls. our north american correspondent now reports. reporter: a long fought victory
for any farmer and all of ghislaine maxwell's victims. justice was slow. she was one of the earliest to report maxwell and the pedophile jeffrey epstein to police in 1996. today, and he said it was never too late for accountability. >> maxwell and epstein were predators who were able to use that power and privilege to harm countless individuals, and for far too long, the institutions that should be protecting the public were protecting them. i still hope we find out more about how that was allowed to occur. reporter: maxwell did not look at her victims but she did address them. she said she was sorry for the pain they had experienced. she also said her association with epstein, who she described as a manipulative cunning man, was the greatest regret of her life. >> statement felt like a very hollow apology to me. she did not take responsibility for the crimes that she committed. it felt like once more, her trying to do something to benefit her, and not at all
about the harm she had caused. reporter: the court allowed others who were not part of the trial to also confront maxwell. the pain and anguish she caused was plain to see, as several accusers emotionally spoke about the lasting impact of her crimes. such as liz stein. >> she had a wonderful, full, beautiful life, and so many of us did not have a chance to have that. i think that the closure part of her sentencing is maybe the beginning for a lot of us to start having the life thate anticipate that we might have if we had never met elaine maxwell and jeffrey epstein. reporter: the british daughter of the disgraced media tycoon robert maxwell ran in the most influential circles, rubbing elbows with presidents and princes. in court, as she waited to hear
her fate, she was supported by three members of her family. the judge rejected the defense's claim that maxwell was being punished in epstein's place, and set her sentencing had to reflect the seriousness of her role in the horrific scheme. today is a major step for justice, and perhaps healing for the victims. bbc news, new york. laura: turkey has changed course and will support the nato membership applications from finland and sweden. the breakthrough came after the three countries signed a joint memorandum on mutual security. they met at the nato summit where the war in ukraine dominated the agenda. our european editor reports from madrid. reporter: it has taken weeks of negotiations, but sweden and finland are now well on their way to becoming nato members, after they signed an agreement with turkiye to counter threats to each other's security.
nato hopes to present this united front tonight, to send a clear message to vladimir putin. >> welcoming finland and sweden into the alliance will make them safer, nato stronger, and the atlantic area more secure. this is vital as we face the biggest security crisis in decades. reporter: ukraine is on everyone's minds here. but so is the wider security threat from russia. nato is ramping up its rapid reaction forces from 40,000 to 300,000. like these french paratroopers preparing to support nato countries close to russia now feeling very exposed. >> we cannot defend ourselves alone. we will never be alone. we have to have friends and allies. reporter: inland and sweden agree. just look at finland's long border with russia. >> thank you so much for taking
the time. reporter: moscow's aggression has shocked them. >> you realize that we have to make a change. it appeared russia is ready to try to invade the neighboring sovereign country. >> are you worried though? because president putin told you directly, he warned you, not to join nato or there would be repercussions. >> yes, we are not afraid. not at all. reporter: today, russia's foreign minister, sergey lavrov, warned the west beefing up its defenses and supporting ukraine would only prolong kyiv's agony. and that is the delicate balancing act here. all nato countries agree russia is the aggressor, ukraine must be helped literally. but to what extent? that is where there is disagreement. should russia be given such a bloody knows it thinks twice in the future about acts of
aggression? or if vladimir feels pushed in a corner, is there a risk that he will escalate? even making good on a threat to use nuclear weapons? trying to keep nato allies together is joe biden, arguably the star guest at tonight's gala dinner, hosted by spain's king and queen. europe's secury has been thrown upside down by vladimir putin, but one thing has not changed. when this continent is in crisis, it still relies heavily on washington. bbc news, madrid. laura: it is day two of the wimbledon tennis championships, and a jampacked affair it has been. our sports presenter is at the tournament. reporter: day one, when bolton was about novak djokovic having to find his form and battle through. day two was very much about fire on the doll doing the same.
he was playing francisco cerundello. he has won one match on the grass. . on the atp tort. -- tour. nadal had to fight hard for this one. dropped the third set the 22 grand slam champion show is battling qualities every inch of them as he powered through in the end. he is looking at 36 years old to win three grand slams in a row, and potentially the calendar slam at the u.s. open. that is still a big if, and a big drain. but herewith the men's draw opening up, matteo bear teeny having to withdraw with a positive covid test. marin cilic also out. it is potentially looking like a djokovic-nadal final. it is too early to talk about
that. the world number one egos shui on tech toll -- showed us why she is the standout player this year. 36 consecutive wins for her now. she beats her opponent in raight sets. she had to work in the second set, admitted she felt finding her feet on grass as she tries to translate her clay-court form which saw her win the french open last month. simona halep, a former champion, but she came through in straight sets. coco cagauff who between us -- who beat selena williams. she dropped the first set, before winning in three. laura: the man with the best assignment there, reporting from wimbledon. you can find much more on all of the day's news at our website, just to see what we are working on at any time.
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judy: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight -- >> it was un-american. we were watching the capitol building get defaced over a lie. judy: a key witness, a top aide to former president trump's chief of staff testifies that the former president encouraged january 6th protestors to march to the capitol, knowing they had weapons and he tried to join them. then, tragedy in texas, dozens of migrants perish after being locked in a tractor trailer in scorching heat, the deadliest human smuggling accident in the u.s. in modern memory. and, the end of roe, the supreme court's decision to restrict reproductive rights forces women to seek abti