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"this week" starts now. >> final stretch. >> this is a simple choice. >> president trump pleading from behind. >> can i ask you to do me a favor, suburban women, will you please like me? i saved your damn neighborhood, okay? >> drawing fire from joe biden. >> facing voters in dueling town halls. >> i don't want to panic this country. >> americans don't panic, he panicked. >> 26 million ballots cast. in an election shaped by a global pandemic. >> we have a baseline of daily infections of about 45,000 or 50,000 per day.
>> racial unrest, the economic crisis. >> their needs are not addressed in the president's proposal. >> getting something done before the proposal. >> we're confirming the judge in an election year after the voting has occurred. >> health care coverage for millions of americans is at stake. >> we cover it all this morning. a closer look at florida and powerhouse analysis. >> from abc news, it's "this week." >> good morning and welcome to this week. two weeks and two days to go in this race for the white house and president trump down in the polls facing persistent unemployment. a new surge in unemployment cases. late last night in wisconsin, which set new coronavirus
records on thursday and friday he insisted that we're rounding the corner on the pandemic. plus comments on gretchen whitmer. >> i guess they say she was threatened, right? >> and she blamed me. >> you have to get your governor to open up your state, okay? and get your schools open. get your schools open. the schools have to be open, right? lock them all up. >> and we go to our first guest, nancy pelosi.
madame speaker, thank you for joining us this morning. i want to get the latest on the stimulus negotiations, your reaction tonight, governor whitmer said this, this is the
rhetoric that but the lives of me and other officials in danger. >> the president has to realize that the words of the president of the united states weigh a ton. and in our political dialogue, to put a fear tactic in there, especially a woman governor and her family, is to irresponsible. people listen to him and people think the president is important. and what he says should be adhered to. and so we have this horrible situation. but the people have awakened to him. 26 million people already voting. the biggest antidote to his poison is the vote. >> a lot of americans are hurting as you know, madame speaker. i know you have been negotiating with a possible economic relief package. you spoke with secretary mnuchin last night. are you closer to reaching a deal? >> we're seeking clarity. with all due respect to some of
the people in the president's administration they're not legislatures. so when they said we're accepting the language on testing, they were making a light touch, changing shall to may, requirements to recommendations, a plan to a strategy, not a strategic plan. they took out 55% of the language that we had there for testing and tracing. and the tracing part is so important. because communities of color had been disproportionately affected by this. so on this subject where we have agreement, we have agreement in the language yet, but i'm hopeful. here is the big difference. communities of color have more deaths than the white population. this, just think of this, if you were a child, a hispanic child has eight times more chance of going to the hospital with covid
than a white child. a black child five times more chance of going to the hospital. that is because we have not addressed the problem. the testing. the tracing. the treatment. the mask wearing. the separation. the sanitation. all that goes with it. so hopefully we can learn from each other. we have pages and pages of how you would do this in the minority community. they put it -- crossed it all out and they said the government will pay for the tracing, but each stay will establish a strike that appropriate to it's circumstances. the cdc can provide guidance to the states on elements, can, no must, but noise that we have to but in addition to that we have to have a national plan. you cannot leave it up to the
states. they need a plan to address the minorities. >> if you don't get an agreement in a 48 hour deadline. >> the 48 only relates to getting it done before the election, which we do. >> don't you? >> yes, which we do. but we're saying we have to freeze the design on some of these things. are we going with it or not? what is the language. i'm optimistic because we have been back and forth on all of this. you know legislation. shall is different from may. shall, the difference amounts to this, if you think of it this simple way. one you say may, you're given the president a yes or a no. if you say shall, we must have it.
if you trace, treat, ventilate, sanitize, all of it, we can open our schools and businesses. >> even if you reach a deal with the white house around $1.82 trillion leader mcconnell says he won't put something like that on the floor of the senate. >> he said a number of things and one of the things he said, i think yesterday, but it was important yesterday, is that if the white house and the house come to an agreement that he would put it on the floor. that is among his many statements. most of the time he spent laughing. pushing the pause button, telling states to go bankrupt, laughing. in his debate when amy mcgrath said what are you doing about stopping spread of the virus, he laughed. he laughed. this is not funny. the president didn't take it seriously, mcconnell has not taken it seriously. but we can stop this if we follow the science.
and be ready for a vaccine that i hope will be soon. >> you have not spoken to the president in over a year. are you willing to pick up the phone to close a deal to get this done? >> let me say this. it isn't about the president. he says his representative -- president bush sent his representative. professionals that know something about the policy. this is not unusual. however, however, i have a great deal of respect for the office that i hold. and i have a great deal of respect for the position that he holds. the president of the united states. this is not a casual conversation. this is about a meeting of the head of the first branch of government, the legislative branch, and the government. if there is a purpose, if there is a stipulation of trying to get something done, then perhaps we take this to that place when we can't solve other problems. but many of you have spent many times calculating how many times the president has misrepresented
yes, we're going to do this for dreamers. yes we're going to do this on immigration. told us yes, we're going to do this on infrastructure. but then he doesn't. so again, you want to meet with them, you meet with them. as far as i'm concerned the speaker of the house must be respected in terms of what the terms of the meeting is, what the preparation for, and what the likely outcome of success would be. >> are americans going to get relief before election day? >> that depends on the administration. the fact is that we cannot -- the heart of the matter is to stop the spread of the virus. let me speak to you from the standpoint of children. that is my why. that is why i'm in government and politics.
the children, we could, we're having a big debate with them now over earned income tax credit. they gave a tax break to the richest people in america. we want a child tax credit, child independent tax credit for the children, $6 million to 8 million kids and people are now in poverty, many of them are children. this will alleviate, take millions of children out of poverty, send them to schools that take money to have the separation, the ventilation, of the number of teachers there to teach them. have the corrected coronavirus that is affecting black and his panic children in a greater way. that goes back to state and local government. that is the hours of health care, first responders, food, sanitation, there is a oneness to this. i think we can get there. if you think of it in terms of the children. and childcare they're rejecting our number on childcare which is greatly reduced saying they think childcare -- people can't go to work if their children can't go to school. >> finally, madame speaker, i do have to move on and i want to
ask you one final question about judge amy coney barrett. you said democrats had arrows in their quivers. she seems on a path of confirmation right now. is this a done deal? >> well see. i'm not in the senate. i talk about how we can win the election. we have to off set whatever this court may do. and the house, the congress of the united states can overturn these bad decisions. for example the court, on the census, the census is a
disagreement we have. this is very important, who we are as a nation, and the court just agreed with the president to stop the census. so again, we'll, because we want to have an agreement, we can come to a negotiation and we can do it now. what's the difference between a few days, but we could have it before the election. we want it as soon as possible. and i certainly want it because i don't want to have to be sweeping up after this dumping of this elephant as we go
into a new presidency in a few short months. >> madame speaker, thank you for your time this morning. >> we're joined now by robin mcdaniel. thank you for joining us. i know you have been battling covid. how have you been feeling? >> feeling great.
i was sick. i have asthma. i was on a steroid. i came out of it quickly, on the campaign trail and feeling great. >> governor christie is coming up on the program as well. he also battled covid. he came out thinking he was wrong not to wear a mask in the white house. what lesson have you taken away from all of this? >> i think it is incredibly contagious. i think people are getting sick and they don't nowhere. i think the president, with what he has done with the warp speed vaccines, the testings, they will get us out of the pandemic and the president taking the swift action early on is putting us in a better place to fight the virus. >> you saw the president's rally last night. you just heard speaker pelosi, should the president talk about governor whitmer like that. should they chant "lock her up" when she is facing threats like this? >> the president and his fbi foiled this plot. i think governor whitmer is
inappropriate to try to lay blame at the president. these were sick individuals. we're glad she is safe and her steam safe. again let's not -- >> he is saying lock them all up. >> because of her locking down our state. my kids aren't in school. she locked us down. open it up. let's not take the rhetoric further. let's not continue to extrapolate things not being said. what people are saying in michigan, please let us open up, let our kids go back to school. that's what they're talking about. she is taking it way too far once again.
and the president foiled this plot with his fbi. >> thank goodness the fbi did foil the plot, absolutely. one of the things that the governor's staff pointed out is that every time the president speaks like this the threats like this go up on social media. >> democrats attack us, too, and threats go to us, too. governor whitmer, we want her to be safe and healthy, and when the people of michigan are saying open up our stay, they're saying it from an impassioned place. the kids education is failing right now. figure it out. there is a state responsibility. she is on the sunday shows all of the time. come back to michigan and fix it for the families suffering under your lockdown. >> the president getting into it with senator ben sasse. here is a phone call he had this week. >> it's not just that he fails our allies, he fails leadership. the way he treats women, spends like a drunken sailor. i criticized president obama for that kind of spending and i mock president trump as well. he mocks evangelicals behind closed doors.
his family treated the presidency like a business opportunity. he flirted with white supremacists. the president responded with a couple tweets taking on the senator. senator sasse should be next, perhaps the republicans should find a new and more viable candidate. do you think the republicans should find a new senate candidate in nebraska. >> first i will say that everything that ben sasse said in that reporting does not resemble the president that lead our country out of this pandemic. he lead us to a great economy before this. he has created 11.4 million jobs. as the second woman to chair the rnc, let me tell you about his respect for rim. and he has unprecedented approval with the republican party. ben has been there for a long time. it's not surprising it's the only time he gets news when he criticizes the president.
but the party, the energy we're seeing, the rallies, it is unprecedented in terms of the support he is receiving from republicans across the country. >> the president is laying out that maybe republicans should find a new candidate. should there be a new candidate in nebraska? >> there's not going to be a new candidate, but the president is not pleased to see our candidate attacking him and i don't blame him for saying that. >> he also took on susan collins in a tweet on friday. suggesting that she is not worth the work. is susan collins worth the work? >> i want all republicans to win. i want the republican majority. i want to reelect the president and keep the house. you have a candidate on the democratic side right now, joe biden who on your town hall, and continually question after question about whether or not he will up end the third branch of
government and burn down our checks and balances is saying i'll tell you what i'm going to do after the election. we need the senate, we need the presidency, and we need the house. you a presidential candidate that refuses to be honest with the american people even in your town hall. >> i did push him on that and he said after a couple questions that it would be before the election. >> he keeps getting a free pass. it is the judicial branch of government. staffing the supreme court will change our country forever. >> i asked him several questions on it. >> i want every senator elected, every president elected, i would love joe bide ton get a tough question that he actually has to answer. >> he did answer it on thursday. as rnc chair are you concerned that the president is in an open warfare with his own senators? >> i think this president is fighting for the american people every day. i'm not worried about washington beltway politics. this is a president that went out and said there are forgotten
men and women in this country that do not have a voice in washington. he made trade deals, he put great judges on the supreme court, and across the judiciary. he did phenomenal work for the american people. he wasn't there for the washington elite. and again you a candidate that did not answer your question in that town hall. doesn't that concern you? that he is saying i will fundamentally change the third branch of government and the american people only deserve to know that after the election. >> again, he said it before, but now you have several senate republicans concerned that joe biden will win. you have seen the comments from susan collins from and ben sasse. are you starting to see republican senators running on a separate track from president trump? >> i'm not. i think all of them have been running similar races along. here is what i will tell you. i'm seeing more enthusiasm than i saw in 2016. i study the data every day. we know that our voters will turn out on election day.
they don't trust the mail in balloting as much. they're getting out in the early vote states. we want them to get out and turn in their votes. but we're seeing a huge energy and we're seeing really great numbers coming out for the president. and this is a race. and any republican that doesn't recognize that running with the president is going to help them is hurting themselves in the long run. >> finally your uncle, mitt romney, called out the president for refusing to condemn qanon. >> i knew you would ask me that question. it's something the voters are not even thinking about. it's a fringe group. they're not part of the party. the president said you know what, i don't know anything about this group. of course you will ask me about that because it has absolutely nothing to do with this
election. >> do you condemn it? >> antifa is burning down cities right now. i just told you, dismiss them out of hand. this is crazy, george. the american people are worried about the stimulus package, checks going to people that are concerned, and she says i'm going to look at the fine print and look at this one word. playing political gamesmanship with their lives. >> you have a series of senate republicans saying the package is too large. you have a series of senate republicans saying the package is too large. >> there is no package yet. nancy pelosi has been holding it up for months. the president said get help to the american people. she says not unless we get ballot harvesting in there and all of the thing that's have nothing to do with getting immediate help to struggling americans right now. this is all on nancy pelosi right now all day every day. she is hurting the american people and it is shameful that she is doing this in a time of pandemic. that is what people are worried about. their jobs, their economy, and they're the best to do it.
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what he has to do is remain disciplined on the economic message. i think there are real concerns by people across the country about what joe biden will do. they admitted they will take back the trump tax cut. that will raise taxes on middle class families. no matter what vice president biden says, that is the truth. the fact here is that the president should be focused on the economic message. he gets great credit, and i think if they're looking to the future in that way the president has a better chance of winning than if we talk about old grievances. and i just, you know, this goes back, george, you remember on the show we talked about the memo that i sent to the president over 110 days ago now. i said if you run the campaign you ran in 2016 and
will fwhnot be a winning campcap >> rahm emanuel, what worries you the most? >> sometimes i feel like that dog in the commercial where you hear the music and you have trepidation. we have seen this before. i look at this each time and i watch the polling in this area. watch the state polling in this area. and i realize that joe biden is in a better position. i think complacency is one thing. what also worries me is making sure that the voters understand that this is a campaign against a culture of grossness on the presidentness. i thi presidency. i would also add in this case, campaign is about everything that you need to do and everything that your opponent needs them to do for you to win. trump is doing everything that biden needs at this point. he never laid out a second term agenda, or what he wants to do.
and we need to make the argument about a future for this country and focus on bringing back decency and a future that works for everybody. there is not a day to waste with two weeks to go. >> i felt for the chair of the rnc when she has the president taking on republican senators up for reelection. you're starting to see senators go on different tracks from the president, is there a way to coordinate this campaign right now? >> no. at this point a lot of the down ballot candidates believe that trump already lost. they're looking ahead to try to survive the election and also the future of the republican party. if trump only loses by a little, the question will be is it just a post trump party? he was a flawed messenger? or is it a full repudiation of donald trump's presidency and
the direction he took the republican party. i think you will see more and more defections at governor christie pointed out. the president refuses to stay on any economic message and the more he makes this about himself and culture, this will be a turnout election. there are no more persuadable voters to go. he is discouraging early votes allowing democrats to bank voters. republicans and rnc folks are going to concentrate so hard on turnout that they will have three times as many voters they have to hit on election day than the democrats will. they don't have the votes banked. there is a lot that the republicans have uphit in these next two weeks and i don't see how the down ballot folks will be able to distinguish that. >> these early vote numbers are pretty staggering right now. it sure looks like we're on the road to record turnout. the democrats appear to have the edge in those that have voted so far. what we don't know is whether or
not they're just banking votes that they're going to get anyway. >> that's one of the. >> folks are worried about voter suppression, and i think that is a reason that democratic voters are going out really, really early. they don't trust all of these changing rules still happening in states as people are voting. and we have been encouraging them to go out early. i think that momentum is going to continue. i don't they trump is helping himself among any voter not decided. among any independent voter, any voter that has not voted before. he continues to strut around like nothing has happened. he continues to not wear masks, he is dancing at parties, he has big rallies, and i think the more time that goes on voters that are undecided, those that have not been encouraged yet to vote, they go out in record in your opinions. i continue to worry about voter
intimidation, that machines might be down we're working really hard to make sure our voters are going out hard. >> we're also seeing the president out there barnstorming. record numbers of coronavirus cases again, the highest numbers since july. how big of a problem is that for the president? also comment on some of your fellow former republican governor that's are sitting governors right now. charlie baker, larry hogan, they're saying they're not going to vote for president trump. >> well, listen, charlie baker and larry hogan are dear friends of mine. it's not surprising. they're sitting governors of blue states. i don't suspect them to support them now. i think he has that in mind and larry has a future as well. so they're all looking towards their future. so i don't think that means all that much.
i don't think anyone was wondering whether or not he would win massachusetts or maryland. i don't think it matters all that much. i think the bigger issue here is not so much how the rallies are going, but what will the president say at the rallies? what will he say on thursday night at the debates. if he can get people focused on the fact that joe biden wants to raise taxes, that he would not repudiate the green new deal. you asked him why is it on your website if you don't want it? and he didn't really have a good answer for that. that is a huge expenditure as well. i think the pi should be focusing folks on those things in his rallies and in his debate on thursday night. and those grievance issues, the people motivated by those issues, they're voting for the president. we need to turn out people that won't vote because they don't like either candidate at the moment, or are still somewhat undecided and persuadable. i think that is more important than how something looks, it's
what is being said in these last two weeks. >> what does joe biden need to do? how will he handle those attacks from president trump? >> look, i think you saw that the other day in the two town halls. i think that there was a decency and a respect that came across. i don't think it was an accident that it was on abc. people are hungry for answers. joe biden has an agenda for the future. the president has not laid one out, and the american people never forget that an election is about tomorrow. and i do think that is a strategic advantage and biden
has to press down on that. all of what trump offer social security a divisiveness. and the second thing i want to add is this. for all of the republicans in the senate now, i'm sorry but you made a bargain. after three-and-a-half years, and now you're finding the moral courage to speak up. that dog won't hunt. i don't get this. always at the synagogue. that dog won't hunt. three-and-a-half years, all of the things the president has done, now with two weeks to go you're going to abandon him. as he showed in the town hall, it's not about you, and it's not about me. >> a lot of people in the white house think that ben sasse leaked that tape on his own. >> my assumption is he did.
>> i was throwing that to sarah, take it, sarah. >> he has some texas phrases up there in texas. i need to teach him "all hat and no cattle" next. i think these candidates are looking at the polls. that is the opposite of what we saw in 2016. i would not be surprised to see candidates ben sasse. the top tier senate races, they're pulling tighter, that is what is really shocking. when you look to 2022 the republicans can't get any of the seats back. the states up in 2022 are bad for republicans. i think overall the republican party is having a bit of a panic attack right now in part because the president can't really get
past these grievance issues. and yes, this will be a turnout election and the complacency on the democratic side that i think the trump campaign want today see wasn't there. that's why this fascinating study that came out that said people sitting at there -- >> it seems like amy coney barrett is going to sail towards them. it doesn't appear from the democrats are prepared to do anything about it, or they can't. >> you know a lot of progressives including our organization democracy for america has called on diane feinstein.
i don't understand. we have been having some political issues among issues as we lead outside of health care and other things when you think about the future of our country as it relates to health care, as it relates to choice, marriage equality. and so many other issues with voting rights and education. on behalf of democrats, it is appalling. and i will tell you that we will see many actions over the course of next week. our organization will be making calls to senators in the next week. this is a very critical issue. and we're very, very glad that joe biden clarified his position
on the future of the court during the town hall that he had with you. what democrats want is to see democrats fighting back against the cheating of mitch mcconnell and republicans. the strategy that mitch mcconnell had. >> he has a ways to come, i want to get back to the economy. is he closing the deal with nancy pelosi, too, and should he tell mitch mcconnell that we need to vote on it. >> he sounded like wimpy from the old popeye cartoon. i'll give you an answer before election day, maybe, about whether or not i'm going to pack the court. it's ridiculous to say he clarified his position. if they're happy with that answer they've lost their way. he didn't give an answer. >> every action as an equal and opposite reaction. >> no, it doesn't.
>> he is saying if you want to pull those strings, we will also be ready to rectify it. >> i would love to interrupt you but you weren't saying anything of any substance so i let you go. the fact of the matter is this. >> you're responding to what i just said. you're responding now to what i said. >> what the president just talked about and needs to talk about in the last two weeks, george, and what will get some candidates more enthused, is the difference between what he wants to do. this is the difference, this is starting to remind me a little of the bush/gore campaign. when they focused on restoring honor and dignity to the oval
office. that will be biden's argument in the last few weeks. >> george, on this, there is a key point between sarah and chris. the trump car, the last 3.5 years, about the character of donald trump, the coarseness, are the american people saying we want a course correction. when an incumbent runs, do you play them or trade them. the american people are saying the culture, the character, when you vote for an executive, you're voting for the person, they made a decision about the character of donald trump and they want him out. >> that will have to be the last word today. two weeks, two days to go. going for a record turnout for 2020.
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