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sunday. ♪ maria: welcome. good sunday morning, everyone. welcome to sunday morning futures. i'm maria bartiromo. a new day inro washington and america. as president-elect joe biden will be inaugurated this upcoming wednesday. the ceremony scaled back this year because of coronavirus. but the military presence anything but. with more than 25,000 national guard troops from dozens of states already at the capitol this morning, that's more than three times those in afghanistan and iraq combined. coming up, south carolina senator lindsey graham with the highlights and the policy priorities of the incoming administration. plus, the democrats' plan for an impeachment trial of president
trump soon after joe biden is sworn in. then, independent voice and constitutional scholar, alan dershowitz is here onla whether othe senate can actually impeah a former commander in chief. nplus, breaking news this mornig on a string of executive orders that we are expecting by the new president in the first 10 days. former director of national intelligence ric grenell on the bicest threat the administration will face and why they'll need to deal with a new intelligence dump of information on the this. glen gruenwald is here, on why black listing citizens is reminiscent of nazi germany and communist china, not in america. all that right here, right now as we look ahead on sunday morning futures.
and first this morning, a new page turned in america as the peaceful transfer of power will take place wednesday morning with the inauguration of president-elect joe biden. biden's aides say he will take executive aca shun within the first tenl days in office to return the united states to the paris climate accord and put a new mask mandate in place after spending trillions with a blowout spending package announced lastou week. joining me right now with reaction, is south carolina senator lindsey graham. good to see you this morning. thank you very much for being here. will you be going tond the inauguration and what should we expect? >> we should expect a peaceful transfer of power. i will bena there. i think it's important that i show up. and we'll have a new president wednesday and if the first thing he does is go back into the paris climate accord, that's a sis as tear -- disaster for the u.s. economy. it basically gives china and
india a pass on carbon emissions. how do you enforce a national mask mandate. if that's what he's going to lead off with, he's going to have a tough rollout of his presidency. maria: i want to get back to joe biden in a moment. i know that you had a message for president trump this gmorning, senator. >> yeah. mr. president, your policies will stand the test of time. you're the most important figure in the republican party. you can shape the direction of the party, keep your movement alive. we need to understand that these are difficult times. i appreciate what you did did thursday. there are a lot of people urging the president to pardon folks who participated in defiling the capitol, the rioters. i don't care if you went there and spread flowers on the floor, you breached the security of th, capitol. you interrupted a joint session of congress. you tried to intimidate us all. you should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and to seek a pardon of these people would be wrong.
it would be -- i think it would destroy president trump and i hope we don't go down that road. they chose to go into that capitol, defile the capitol. president trump never said go into the capitol and try to interrupt a joint sex of congress. inthat -- joint session of congress. that was the choice they made and they need to live with that choice. maria: the president's obviously tried to send messages here because many of his supporters continue to believe there was fraud in the election and they feel robbed, senator. >> well, i tell you what. you can feel any way you want to. there was w irregularities in mail-in voting, 66,000 people under 18 did not vote in 1 georgia. you did not have 8,000 felon as claimed voting from prison in v arizona. the election is over. the electoral college certified the elections. i'm disappointed in the gas come. i wish -- in the outcome. i wish he would have won. ei appreciate what the president hasaid thursday. we reject violence. his movement is not about
violence, it is about peace, it is about policy. it is now time to move on. to joe biden, you talk about unifying the country. if you do not stand up against the impeachment of president trump, after he leaves office, you are an incredibly weak figure in american history. president trump is trying to heal the nation, pursuing impeachment after he leaves the office will further divide the country. it will ruin the start of your presidency, joe biden. you need to stand up to the radical left and until schumer to -- tell schumer to dismiss what i think is an unconstitutional attempt to impeach president trump out of office. stand down. maria: i mean, this is a crisis for the biden administration as well. he's trying to put in an agenda and you've got the democrats pushing to impeach who will be a former president, senator. >> yeah, this is insane at every level. it will create further division in the country. what good comes from impeaching
donald trump after he leaves office? this is a scarlet letter impeachment. the democrats are trying openly to disqualify president trumpt from ever holding office again after he leaves office. this has never been done in the history of our country. i think it is blatantly unconstitutional. it's being driven by the radical left and what is joe biden doing, he's sitting on the sidelines and doing nothing. one phone call from president-elect biden would stop this. and to my republican colleagues, in the senate, if we embrace an unconstitutional impeachment of donald trump after he's out of office, it will destroy the party. the republican party wants to move forward. president trump's going to be the most important voice in the republican party for a long time to come.bl he's going to accept responsibility for his part on january the sixth but impeaching him after he leaves office is not only unconstitutional, from a republican point of view it would destroy our party.
i hope the republican senators know that because it is a reality. and it will not help the country. the most important thing, impeaching him after he leaves office will be disastrous for this country. and our party. maria: you know, there are a lot of people out there who feel that they never saw accountability from so many wrongs that were done in the last four or five years, senator. you know this. and people are mad at you as well. why didn't you declassify the russiagate transcripts before the election? was there anything you could have done differently to make people feel that there was accountability for an effort to takere down a candidate and thea sitting president with the whole russia hoax nonsense? >> i did hearings. i'm not a prosecutor. i told you this like 10,000 times. it's not my job to put people in jail. i can't fire anybody. maria: you have subpoena power. you have subpoena power. >> look, we called mccabe, we called comey, we called everybody.
everybody who signed the warrant said in my committee, if i knew then what i know now, i wouldn't have signed the warrant. durham is the prosecutor. i'm not going to get in his way. my time is over. i'm releasing all the interviews of the people who participated in the judiciary oversight committee. i'm proud of what we did. it was my committee that got everybody to come before theha country as a whole and say if i knew then what i know now i wouldn't have signed the carter page warrant. it's up to durham to prosecute people and we'll see what he does. maria: yes. senator, i want to ask you about policy priorities. ounow, bernie sanders is in your shoes, he's going to be in your shoes as the chairman of the budget committee. what do you see as the s priorities of bernie sanders? how will america's money be spent? >> well, the first thing they're going to do is use reconciliation where you just need 50 votes to increase your taxes. what are their priorities? they're going to roll back border security at the border and you see the caravans
beginning to form now. they're going to raise your taxes. they're going to impose regulations on the economy. they're going to try to make d.c. a state. they're going to m try to implement parts of the green new deal and medicare for all through budget reconciliation. i've got a fight on my hands. the one thing i want to tell president trump, you're leaving office with some of the most significant accomplishments in my lifetime. you brought order to chaos at the border. you rebuilt the military when it was on its back. you destroyed isis. you got five peace agreements between arab countries and israelis. you cut our taxes. republicans need to work with biden where we can, maybe on infrastructure, but fight like hell turning america into a socialized nation. reject the green new deal. fight like hell against raising taxes. if they l do what they're talkig about doing, republicans will
come roaring back in 2022, we'll take back the house and the senate and just in a few months president trump will be looked at far differently than he is today. maria: what should we take away from the fact that the first move from joe biden is this spending blowout? $1.9 trillion in coronavirus spending, senator. when are you and your colleagues going to start worrying about $23 trillion in debt? probably the same size as the overall economy. >> yeah, i think the debt is a problem. the coronavirusy? is raging. ebthe hospitals are full. people are out of office. so 1.9 trillion is way too much. we just did 900 billion. president trump was right, about a $2,000 stimulus check to middle class and lower middle class families who are struggling out there. i will support that. i'm not going to bail out theng blue states that mismanaged their state governments and budgets under the name of the coronavirus. but here's what i would say.
that joe biden's off to a lousy start. it would be so easy for him in the name of healing this country to tell schumer to stand down impeachment. no good comes from impeaching president trump out of office. but he can't do that. so i'm really worried he's going to stand up to the radical left on anything. i think we're going to have in the first 100 days by the biden administration the most aggressive socialized policy effort in the history of the country. maria: wow. that is some statement. what do you w want to say to yor colleagues in the senate, the ten gop who voted for impeachment, led by number three, republican liz cheney, senator. she's really pushing to itch peach trump. >> here's the problem. ibl understand what happened on january 6th was one of the low points in my time in office. nit was horrendous to see people comeor and take over the capito, the house and the senate, beat
officers, defile the seat of government, how in the hell could that o happen. where was nancy pelosi, it's her job to provide capitol security. we'll get to the bottom of that. to my republican colleagues, impeachment a is a political tool. what you've done here is you impeach the president without one witness being called and not ineven having a lawyer. that's dangerous to the presidency. i think it was aus bad, rushed, remotional move that puts the presidency at risk, require -- call for further division, cause further division in the country. tour my senate republicans, dont legitmize an unconstitutional teffort to impeach president trump. it becomes a model for the future. do we impeach presidents in perpetuity. the constitution was never meant to do that. that is truly a scarlet letter a. to my republican -- impeachment. to my republican colleagues, please do not justify what the house did and stand up for the
constitution like we did on january 6th. stop this before it stops. i hope every republican will reject the second impeachment of president trump. maria: and you said all of this in a letter to chuck schumer. we have the letter to show. have you heard back from senator schumer on the letter that you sent? >> no, but my letter to senator schumer was pretty simple. you called on all of us to recognize state certification of electoral college. i did. all but six republicans recognized it was the state job to certify elections. the vice president withstood pressure to try to overturn the election. he doesn't have the power to do that. if it could be done by a vice president, i'm sure al gore would have done it. we withstood that pressure. i'm asking chuck schumer and joe biden to withstand the pressure from the radical left, stand dot i believe to be clearly an unconstitutional impeachment of a president leaving office.
it will create further division in the country, it will destroy the presidency itself. if you continue to do this, you hate trump more than you love the country and that's the trunderlying problem. from the dayou one, the first dy taking office, president trump has been hounded by the media andff the liberal democrats andt will continue even when he's out of office. how doeshe that make america -- how does that allow us to heal? maria: unbelievable. you're right. everything. and despite that incredible record that you just pointed out of, gone through some of the great successes this president has had. before we go, twitter is purging republicans, not only did they ban president trump, they put parler out of business. but they're also taking your follower as well, biggest losers in the twitter purchasing, yourself and leader mitch mcconnell as well as chuck grassley. what do you want tock say to twitter, real quick. >>r twitter, google, the social
media companies who enjoy protect under 230, we're coming after you, we're going to strip section 230 liability, make you where you make a decision, you could be sued based on the decision. a private company has more power than the government and traditional media. there is no regulation. they have legal immunity. that needs to come to an end. this is a defining moment in men american democracy. 23 we don't push back against gule ole -- google and twitter, we will lose our democratic ability to talk to each other. maria: senator lindsey graham, thank you, sir. coming up, the man who saw more raw intelligence than anybody except for the president, ric grenell on the biggest threat facing the incoming administration and who will be really calling the shots, he's calling her the mini president. stay with us. ering piece of moviemaking"... is on demand.
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maria: welcome back, what a week ahead in just 3 days joe biden will be sworn in as 46th president of the united states and because so much of his campaign focused on donald trump rather than actual policies, we don't really know what to expect from his administration. gop congressman devin nunes made prediction when he joined me on this program in november. >> i will just point out to your viewers that president obama is the only president that i know that only moved about a mile from the white house, set up shop, has all of his people there. it's not just about how this is the first president that oversaw using a political campaign, using the fbi and doj to open an investigation into your rival campaign. that's a big of a prod that you get in the history of the united states of america. he's not giving up power. maria: so exactly how
influential will former president barack obama be in biden's white house, joining me to talk about that and the priorities that the incoming administration is ric grenell, former u.s. ambassador to germany, good morning, ric, thank you so much for being here. >> thanks, maria. maria: so what do you think in terms of policy priorities and the picks that you've seen so far? we know that susan rice has been tapped to run joe biden's foreign policy council. that doesn't need senate confirmation. your reaction to that and what we will see coming out of this new administration? >> well, susan rice has been tapped to do domestic policy and what is really interesting about that is she's got no experience in domestic policy. she is going to be somebody who is incredibly influential. remember that she was national security adviser so she knows that entire apparatus.
we were told that she wanted to be secretary of state in the obama administration. they were making moves towards that but she didn't have the votes so they backed off on that and so i think the reality is she's going to be running foreign policy, domestic policy, she's probably extremely happy that kamala harris is going to be preoccupied with the senate trying to manage 50/50, being the 101st senator there and won't have a lot of time to get into policy issues. so i think you need to watch susan rice very closely. she will be the shadow president. we have a president elect in joe biden who clearly is not the joe biden of ten years ago. he's not even the joe biden of 5 years ago when it comes to policy issues. we saw him raise his hand during the democratic primary for some really radical ideas. the progressives have clearly taken over him and i think that
that's why he won. they wanted someone who had name that they could control and susan rice being right there at the white house to be the shadow president is probably exactly where she wants to be, behind the scenes. maria: wow. >> and unchecked. maria: unchecked is the keyword there. ric, i want to get your take on what her role was on the russia hoax and spreading that wrong narrative and also about this incredible dump of information that we are going to see this upcoming week. let's take a short break, when we come back we will discuss which california democrats are also in bed with communist china and why nancy pelosi put eric swawell on the homeland security committee despite his special friendship with a chinese spy. friendship with a chinese spy. we made usaa insurance for members like martin. an air force veteran made of doing what's right, not what's easy. so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. that's how you do it right.
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maria: welcome back, we are back with former acting director of national intelligence and ambassador to germany ric grenell, ric, i want to start in germany because this week we heard from angela merkel who commented that president trump was banned from twitter. now there are reports this morning -- here is the german chancellor's statements, bear great responsibility for political communications not being poisoned by hatred and by lies and incitement to violence and the fundamental right can be intervened and she says t bad policy according to the law and framework defined by legislators not management social media forms. this is an attack on free speech, ric, your reaction to what we are seeing in terms of cancel culture. twitter, we have a tape of jack dorsey, this is going to be going on for a long time and we
are seeing lots of republicans, conservative twitter accounts being purged. >> look, i hope that the democrats and the washington, d.c. media and silicon valley and specifically twitter jack dorsey and they see what they have done. we have germany lecturing us on foreign government, on how we are going after free speech and so i think it's a crisis and i'm hoping that there are going to be some voices on the left that will stand up and say, we've gone too far. they've already overreached and they haven't even taken over the white house. maria: i want to ask you about policy decisions around the russia hoax and this decision to declassify documents this week. what are we going to see this week, ric, in terms of hillary clinton's emails that pompeo was supposed to declassify and other declassifications coming from
the department of justice, what should we expect? >> i hope that we will see a whole treasure troll of documents that show the russian collusion investigation from the very beginning, when you look at the dates of the early warning signing, you will see that career officials knew exactly that this was a phoney investigation. those are in the documents. unfortunately what we had political appointees during the obama years who took warning signs and classified them away. that's kind of the trick that they do. they overclassify anything that you don't like. the narrative that doesn't fit their narrative immediately becomes classified. it's a trickery of what the intelligence community can do. then you have to go into this fight if you want transparency, if you want the truth to come out, then we must demand that documents that do not push forward or reveal any sources or
any methods on how we develop these sources or this information, if it doesn't have a source or a method then it should be declassified especially in probes like the russian collusion investigation because the public right now doesn't have any faith in the intelligence community's assessment around russia. we have seen way too many people put forward narratives that were wrong including right before the election with the hunter biden laptop situation where 50 former u.s. intelligence officials never seen information, signed a letter saying that hunter biden's laptop was russian disinformation. that was the beijing line. that's exactly what china wants people to say. maria: i want to ask you about china in the next block, ric, but isn't it true that one of the people stopping any
declassification was gina haspel, i was told she kept getting in the way being transparent with the public so people understood this was a made-up russian collusion, i was told she was going to get fired, what is gina haspel's story? >> i think it's important even that we have 3 days left be careful this a cabinet member is critiqued by a former cabinet member. transparency is something that is not happening and people are too concerned about protecting their agency. it's a pr exercise. that's got to stop and i know that the president is completely focused on that. transparency is not political. it's very rare in washington but it is not a political exercise to give more information to the public. that's what we are trying to do.
congress has done a decent job of demanding documents. unfortunately it's a partisan exercise. when the trump administration was in, it was largely just democrats pushing for more information and it will be the reverse in the biden administration. republicans will start asking for more information. i think that's an appropriate role but both parties need to recognize that they shouldn't protect bureaucrats or political appointees who are trying to hide information. this treasure troll of documents that we are talking about, that we are hoping to see is really an important part of seeing the scandals of the past come forward with information that is about the truth. we are seeking the truth and those in washington who keep hiding it are really the problem. maria: so has the treasure troll has had impact on john durham.
i want to take a break and ask you if we will actually see a durham report at any time and when we go through foreign policy names in the incoming administration as it relates to china. ric grenell more with you in a moment as we look ahead on sunday two medical societies have strongly recommended to doctors to treat acute, non-low back muscle and joint pain with topical nsaids first. a formulation they recommend can be found in salonpas. a formulation they recommend can be found in salonpas. salonpas. it's good medicine. hisamitsu. i didn't realize how special
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grenell, ric, i want to get into china and why there's so much activity in san francisco but before i do, let me close the loop on the other conversation really quickly. do you expect indictmentments from john durham, he's a prosecutor, running a criminal investigation. first we were going to see interim report and we would likely see indictments, would we see indictments in the russia criminal investigation? , are the answer is i don't know, we suspect that we will. he's been thorough and the information he's been asking is detailed and diverse. i think that we will see some sort of indictments and i certainly think he will focus on the right people. he's demonstrated that over and over. maria: you have said many times that china remains our biggest threat in this country. the chinas communist party wants to overtake the united states as the number 1 super power and the foreign policy team is packed
with china appeasers in this incoming administration, jake sullivan for nsa, coauthored an essay for managed coexisting with china. alejandro mayorkas, he was found to have sold green cards on behalf of donors. there's the activity in san francisco. what can you tell us about the china threat and what you have learned about california's ties to ccp? >> the first thing let's say that russia is a problem and china is a crisis and those who try to flip that around they are really giving the beijing line. what we have seen in the bay area in san francisco is the chinese spies have infiltrated the bay area political system. you look at nancy pelosi dianne
feinstein, eric swawell, politicians who have fallen prey to chinese spy tactics. we have to call it out and be very clear that what they are trying to do is compete with the united states to the point where they defeat us. this is the communist china strategy and we can't be unclear about that. we have to recognize when we have a competitor that is infiltrated into our political system at the local level, that's their strategy and they hope that the local politicians build up and grow up and their relationship expands. but when it comes to governors across our state, members of congress, politicians, the educational system, certainly we have seen chinese spies through all of academia and we have to
be able to recognize it and call it out and get rid of it. this is a competition of big ideas, communism versus capitalism. maria: well, it's very disturbing and the whole world should worry about this, i believe, ric. if the chinese communist party says they want to overtake america, the whole world should be outraged that a communist country wants to be dominant country in the world. dianne feinstein had a driver and manager for 20 years, for 20 years he's listening to her and sending information back to the ccp, it was sort of blown off. the mainstream media didn't talk much about it. same with barbara boxer, now we have the eric swawell situation. he's china's guy. kristin fong, helped
fundraising. it was a stick in the eye, i guess, on nancy pelosi's part to say he's one of the managers for an impeachment trial for president trump. your reaction? >> look, the chinese strategy, the communist party's strategy in the united states specifically in san francisco in the bay area is working. they are developing relationships that are extremely problematic and what do we have as many politicians are the leaders are saying, look over at russia, russia is the problem. don't look at beijing, don't look at china. we see this as a huge problem and the irony is that right down the road is silicon valley where big tech is starting its march towards doing many things that the communist chinese party welcomes. we look at 5g technology and the
fact that we are trying to stop companies like hauwei from selling to our allies around the world. we see the problem with tiktok. we see the problem developing with facial recognition companies, the chinese companies that do facial recognition are terrible. irresponsible companies using technology for nefarious reasons. the american versions of all those need to be supported. we need to never be in a position where we are asking our allies to reject hauwei and not have an option on 5g, we cannot be behind on technology and we have too many people in washington, too many people in academia that have decided that they are just going to manage the relationship with china as jake sullivan says. i think that's a dangerous road. maria: yes, and i recognize the danger. we recognize the danger on the program, have been zeroing in on
the ccp's goals and motives now for 4 years at least and one of the reasons that we highlighted the story of hunter biden accepting money from companies overseas in particular doing deal with chinese company that was tied to the -- to the communist party. all of this is important to understand what the u.s. policy will be in a different administration. ric, do you believe that the china policy will change and become softer under joe biden? >> i think it already has. i think that beijing is celebrating many of these appointments that the biden administration is putting forward. it's a big concern and we need to make sure that conservative democrats, those who are concerned about china, speak up. when you look at the senate, you look at the house, republicans
cannot do it alone. we are going to need to have allies in the democratic party. we can't be fighting about everything on a partisan basis. we need to reach out and explain why this is such a crisis to democrats and have them stand up. maria: all right, we will leave it there. ric, great to get your insights, thank you very much for the time this morning. we will see you soon. >> thanks, maria. maria: ric grenell joining uses there. coming up last week constitutional list alan dershowitz says impeaching a former president is unconstitutional but will that stop chuck schumer from doing it? alan dershowitz to weigh in alan dershowitz to weigh in is that net carbs or total?... eh, not enough fiber... chocolate would be good... snacking should be sweet and simple. the delicious taste of glucerna gives you the sweetness you crave while helping you manage your blood sugar. with nutrients to help support immune health.
speaker nancy pelosi expected to send the article of impeachment to the senate some time this week. but according to my next guest none of it matters because it is unconstitutional to hold a trial once the president has left office. joining me right now alan dershowitz, harvard professor who is also part of president trump's impeachment defense team. he also has a wildly popular podcast the dersh show. also joining uses glenn greenwald, libertarian, won a pulitzer for breaking snowden story, surveilling citizens under the obama administration. alan, let me kick it off with you, your reaction on what we may see this upcoming week. looks like articles of impeachment is going to the senate and chuck schumer will push senate trial on president trump who has left office at that point. it would be unconstitutional but
that will not bother senators, the subject, the object, purpose of impeachment is to remove a sitting president and there are two precedents and one is very obvious, when president nixon resigned in anticipation of being impeached and removed, there was no effort to impeach him after he left office. it was clear that the senate had lost jurisdiction at that point. the proponent side with another precedent, in 1876, a failed effort to remove the secretary of war. in an initial vote, the senate voted close -- in a close vote that they did have jurisdiction to try somebody who had resigned but when it came to the vote on the merits, they lost because 27 or so senators voted that they did not have jurisdiction. those senators were right. there is no jurisdiction, you cannot put citizen trump on trial. if you could do that, it would be a bill of obtainer, putting
someone on trial who is not a sitting president and number 2, 2 implications would be horrendous, if the republicans came up with a terrific candidate say not donald trump to run against president biden in 2024, the democrats could simply impeach him. if you can impeach anyone who is not a sitting president, there are no limits to the power of the congress to try ordinary citizens. it's plainly unconstitutional and the senate should not proceed with this unconstitutional act. maria: we will see and it will tell us a lot about what the priorities are of this incoming administration. i want to turn to the censorship that we are watching, all of us, that you both have remarked about quite often. jack dorsey has admitted that the censorship at twitter will go far beyond just donald trump, here is a tape where he admits that when he doesn't -- when he
doesn't realize he's being taped, watch this. >> we are focused on one account right now, but this is going to be much bigger than just one account and it's going to go on for much longer than just this week, the next few weeks, it's going to go on beyond. maria: twitter gave a statement, this is not any different than what he said in the past. glenn, good morning to you, thank you for being here, what's your reaction to dorsey admitting that he's purging conservatives? >> well, i think there's clearly a pressure campaign underway bizarrely led by journalists at many major media outlets who want to maybe taken their control over the dissemination of information and internet as threat to that. if you go back to what silicon valley pioneers were saying, the reason they were so excited as an innovation is it was going to
be free and open internet, that was the motto, free of corporate control, free of dogmas, the ability of human beings to communicate with one another without the need for cooperating government intervention and what we are seeing now is the complete opposite of that and it's really not being led by silicon valley, this obligation which they prefer not to have exercise because they want as many people as possible in their platforms is being voiced upon them by a public and democratic party and liberal media outlets, cnn, nbc news who demand over and over that they censor more and not less. i think we have to realize this isn't just unilateral power grab by silicon valley, it's also being done by a lot of power institutions in conjunction with them. >> right, right. maria: it's not just the censorship, alan, it's also harvard, faculty and students
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maria: welcome back, we are back with alan dershowitz and glenn greenwald, alan, there's a campaign building at harvard to rescind and revoke degrees of trump officials and allies including white house press secretary kayleigh mcenany and dan crenshaw. your reaction? >> i will represent pro bono any harvard graduate who has degree rescinded based on politics.
the great danger is this was coming from our future leader. it has to be fought at every turn. we cannot allow free speech for me but not for thee which is what we are seeing at harvard and other institutions. maria: it's just terrible, glenn, all anybody wants is truth. the president is looking for further pardons, do you think he should pardon julian assange? >> i think two people who had done more to expose the truth of the very agencies that donald trump says he's been victimized by and was victimized by edward snowden and jillian assange are being persecuted by the deep state, the security state and absolutely deserve a pardon. they've been punished and they've suffered for years and it's time for them to come home. >> i think assange should be pardoned. maria: real quick.
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