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matching process to the test. in a legal way. and what he found he says was quite alarming. he joins us in a moment to explain. the trump team also has filed a new lawsuit today in nevada. also today in los angeles, two men were charged with voter fraud in a 41-count criminal complaint. carlos allegedly submitted more than 8,000 fraudulent voter registration applications on behalf of homeless people in that area. then have you got the 2600 votes that somebody forgot to count in floyd county, georgia. we will talk with luke martin the g.o.p. county chair. there is another county with votes coming in that they did not discover before as well also in georgia. so, while these are not indicative of widespread efforts to throw an election, they should disturb us all. we should all be able to do better than what we are learning about the sloppiness that does exist in the voter systems in america. and while the states by and
large want you to believe that it went better than ever in this highly sophisticated country that why live in if you phone knows who you are, shouldn't your ballot be just as smart? clearly there is room for improvement on the next round here. joining me now is victor jakes. the columnist of the -- at the las vegas journal review ohio just mentioned. victor thanks for being here tonight. >> thanks for having me on. >> martha: what did you do? what was your experiment. >> i wanted to test the accuracy of signature verification i had nine volunteers. what happened is i signed their name as it appeared on the ballot. i took a picture of it and sent it to them and then they copied my signature on to their ballot return envelope. that's how it was legal but it was still attached. it wasn't their signature it was simulating what had happened if i had found their ballots in the trash and decided to submit them and 8 of the 9 ballots went through. so signature verification which had been built up as this infallible security measure had
89% failure rate. >> martha: i mean, it is shocking. and, you know, when you think about how everyone signs things differently. i mean i sign things differently depending on what the machine is or what i'm doing. i look at my signature in the voter role books and years ago it was very different than what it looks now. is there anyone who is saying seriously in nevada this doesn't work? we have dead people on some of these voter rolls. they need to be scrubbed. what other problems did you find and what do you think are some of the solutions? >> well, the problem is we just simply don't know how many problems there are. the clark county registrar, which is the county that las vegas is in said they don't have anyone looking at voter fraud i. and so we simply don't know how widespread the problem is. now, that is certainly not proof of widespread fraud but what my experiment showed what some of the research the trump campaign is coming up with shows that widespread fraud was certainly possible and the lack of
interest by elected officials, by election officials is simply concerning and frankly irresponsible. so it starts with digging into the data that already there not assuming the election was conducted honestly and with integrity going and trying to find out if anyone cheated and not expecting them to come and admit it after the fact. >> martha: yeah. it seems it's going to be tough to get both sides together because the system seems to be working. on one side and, you know, it could be their side that loses the next time around. but these voter rolls need to be scrubbed and it's easy to forget about this in between elections. you know, don't become any better unless they come up with a photo system or fingerprint system or some of the things that you recommended in your piece as well. victor, thank you very much. an interesting experiment and you found a legal way to do it and learned a lot. thank you very much. good to see you tonight. so as mentioned, a short time
ago another 2700 votes that previously were not counted in the georgia election have been found during the state's recount. this time it happened in fayette county just south of atlanta. a similar situation was uncovered in floyd county, georgia, i should say, yesterday luke martin is the chair of the republican county in floyd county. luke, good to have you with us tonight. i don't know if that's news to you it just crossed a moment ago. are you surprised that they found another 2700 uncounted ballots in fayette county? >> we just heard the news here just a few hours ago that they found the 2700 ballots in fayette county. honestly that is surprising to me. we thought that our issue here in floyd county that we were going to be the only ones but it looks is unlike fayette county found a similar amount. so that's very troubling. >> martha: yeah, i mean, is there -- how many counties are there in georgia? >> 159. >> martha: okay so two out of those we know there were at least a few thousand votes that had not been counted the first time around. what's going to happen to these
votes? will they go into the totals? >> we hope so. that's the expectation. so what we had in georgia was the risk limiting audit which where we have people come and count the actual paper ballots to compare it to what the machine totals were on election night or shortly after when each county certified our own results. we were surprised here in floyd county to say that there were 2700 extra ballots roughly. so, we spent today basically recounting them. and from the secretary of state's office what they are saying their press conference is that they will count. so, hopefully that's right. i think the county attorney is here and working on that. >> you think it was human error and not anything more nefarious than that; is that correct? >> well, we are not exactly sure. basically we know that all of our missing ballots came from in person early voting from one particular precinct here in rome. so, we were able to track down that basically a scanner went down during early voting.
those ballots had to be removed and put in a second scanner. we were trying to figure out whether when those roughly 5,000 ballots were re-scanned did the scanner mess up? did the dominion software mess up or was it human error. people working the elections didn't scan half the ballots. we don't know exactly. probably a combination of human error and commuter error. >> martha: got to get to the bottom of that huge focus in georgia with this senate runoff on january 5th. is there an effort underway to clean up some of these voter rolls to make sure these kind of errors don't happen? is it going to be any different this time around? >> we certainly hope. so one of the problems we have had statewide and i know that we have certainly had here is just a lack of public observation of the counting of ballot. the aused occasion of ballot. the lack of party observation. and we know, you know, we hear those stories in the metro atlanta counties that that happened there, too. what happened in floyd county of 100,000 people. so we are making sure that the board of elections here in floyd
county is notifying the public about when they're going to be counting absentee ballots. they are notifying the public and the parties about when they are going to be adjudicating ballots so we can be there and witness this process. if this was human error and the board of elections allowed the parties or allowed the public to view the counting of the ballots, we could have seen that but we didn't get the opportunity to be there. so let the process play out is unlike it's supposed to. >> martha: seems that the secretary of state has got to ensure that both sides have call and they both signed off on when both things can start and nothing it start until both sides are in place with the facilities. other issues with people moving to the area in georgia that may be trying to add themselves to the voter r08 rolls before thate as well. luke, thank you very much. good to talk to you tonight. >> thank you very much. >> martha: dan sullivan's election in alaska tallied late secured the 50th seat for the republican side. now as chair of armed services he is raising questions about
the pressure that president-elect biden will be under to cut defense spending and also this moment getting a little bit of attention today. >> i would start by asking the presiding officer to please wear a mask as he speaks and people below him are, i can't tell what you to do but i know that behavior. >> i don't wear a mask when i'm speaking is unlike most senators. >> most senators. >> i don't need your instruction. some hot cocoa?
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>> what does joe biden believe? still don't really know on a number of fronts. as a candidate he was never really pressed during the campaign and now the media is basically only asking versions of this. >> what do you sees a the biggest threat to your transition right now given president trump's unprecedented attempt to obstruct and delay a smooth transfer of power? >> doesn't appear that the president is going to come around any time soon and admit defeat, so what are you going to do? >> martha: journalist mark hall rights today that advisers for years and 2020 clearly fuzzed things up as he says. he says biden doesn't want to rub the labor unions the wrong way on trade and the president-elect has mixed views
on some issues and no views on some issues. he concludes that we really have no idea how he will handle our relationship and we don't know on where he stands with dealing with these two. although president obama is now speaking out a bit on the issue of china. dan sullivan of alaska joins me now. senator, good to have you with us tonight. >> good to be back on the show, martha. >> martha: chair of the armed services committee. basically president obama came out and said if i had to do it again i would be a lot tougher on china with trade issues. and he kind of echoed a lot of what we saw from president trump. are you concerned about how a biden administration will approach china? >> absolutely i'm concerned. and i think your piece teeing off this segment about what mark halperin said about we don't really know what vice president biden's stands for i think is a really important point. the media didn't press him. but here is one issue that relates to china that i'm very concerned about. second term of the obama-biden
administration they recklessly cut defense spending by 25%. now, we worked really closely with president trump to rebuild that readiness, to rebuild our military. but what i'm really concerned about, martha is they are they are going to do it again carter, clinton, obama. they have a tendency to want to cut our defense spending. i debated bernie sanders and chuck schumer about two months ago on the senate floor on a sanders' amount to, quote, defund the military. no kidding. that's what they called it. fortunately we defeated it. but that's a huge issue. it's one of the big issues why these georgia senate races are so important. the senate can be a check on this desire to once again cut our military which i fear a president biden would do. >> martha: i want to ask you about something that just came through. it has to do with cyber security. the president has just fired chris krebs who was the cyber chief. he wanted the dhs chair
>> martha: the dhs head chad wolf to fire chris krebs and now the president has done so by tweet. do we have the president's tweet in there, guys? there we go. the recent statement by chris krebs on the security of the 2020 election was highly inaccurate. in that it was massive improprieties and fraud including dead people voting. poll watchers not allowed in polling locations, glitches in the voting machines which changed votes from trump to biden. late voting and many more. therefore effective immediately chris krebs has been terminated as director of the cyber security and infrastructure security agency. chris krebs came out after the election and said they felt there was no meddling and no issue with the election. your response to that sir? >> well, look, i'm just learning about that. so thanks for the update. but i will tell you this. and this is, again, a difference from what happened in 2016 in
2020. when you talk about foreign interference whether russia, iran, that clearly happened in 2016. what our agencies did and this is our military, national security agency. they worked hard to make sure they were on offense, not on defense is unlike we were in 2016. and i think the president and his team with claim a lot of credit. the senate and congress put a lot of money, appropriations behind that from a security perspective. so from the perspective of foreign meddling we have learned a lot and i think the president and his team should take credit for the fact that we did not see the level of foreign medaling from our adversaries that we have seen in previous elections and i think every american should be proud of that and take comfort in that i want to ask but this incident that happened
soundbite with you and senator brown from ohio. he wasn't too happy about. this senator from ohio. >> i would start by asking the presiding officer to please wear a mask when he speaks and people below him i can't tell what you to do and i know that behavior. >> i don't wear a mask when i'm speaking is unlike most senators. >> well, most senators. >> i don't need your instruction. >> i know you don't need my instruction. but there clearly isn't much interest in this body in public health. >> martha: what was going on there? was there more than that than what we see. >> yeah there is a lot more to that. look, we take the issue of the virus in the senate very, very seriously. everybody wears masks. as i mentioned the only time i don't wear a mask is when i'm speaking. when i preside is unlike i was last night. i was wearing a mask. and when i was making statements i took my mask off and put it back on. that's the same way we proceed with hearings and so senator brown knows that you know what's going on here is really two things. first, you know, some of these far left senators is unlike
senator brown just can't help themselves on their desire to want to lecture people on these kind of issues. whether it's lecturing other u.s. senators or lecturing working families and i think it's a put off. people recognize the challenges. we are going to get through these challenges but to be lectured or preached to by senior officials is something that i think is not -- i certainly didn't appreciate. here is a bigger issue, martha. if you listen to the rest of the senator brown's speech, he was essentially saying hey, we shouldn't be here. we shouldn't be working. we should be hunkered down and i just couldn't disagree more with him. we have been confirming judges this week. we are working on the defense authorization act this week. the senate should be showing the rest of the country that yes we can work through the pandemic safely and we can still get the work of the country done. he doesn't want to do that he wants to be hunkered down. >> martha: he doesn't want to put those judges through that's pretty clear in what his comment was. obviously our thoughts are with senator grassley who is 87 years
old and has just tested positive for covid and he was speaking on the floor on monday. we're concerned about him obviously. are others concerned who were near him? >> well, look, i think is unlike i said what we try to do in the senate is everybody wears masks. we are taking the social distancing issues very seriously. but we also recognize that we need to work, that the country needs the legislature acting on behalf of our nation. and, you know, we are all praying for senator grassley. >> martha: we sure are. >> the lone congressman from alaska, congressman don young also caught the virus. he's out of the hospital now. we are praying for all of them. but we also need to make sure that we can still do the business of the senate responsibly. that is what we are doing. we have a lot 6 work to do and that's why we can do both. and i think that's an important example for the rest of the country. >> martha: senator, thank you. great to have you here tonight senator sullivan from alaska.
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naysayers believed it was impossible. >> a lot of optimism is swirling around a 12 to 18 month time frame. if everything goes perfectly. we have never seen everything go perfectly. i still think 12 to 18 months in an aggressive schedule. and i think it's going to take longer than that to do so. >> martha: now as a second company announces striking success in vaccine trial the focus ships to distribution and unprecedented partnership between the federal government and the private sector. >> it is the partnerships we have formed with the pharmaceutical companies is unlike pfizer and moderna. distribution companies is unlike mckesson, fedex and u.p.s. and pharmacies is unlike cvs and walgreen's that have agreed to do things differently. we will be successful because of this all of america approach. this collaboration, this effort that everybody is leading towards. >> martha: joining me now francis collins, the director of the national institute of
health. thank you so much for being here. it's great to have you with us today, dr. collins. what is your reaction. >> glad to be with you, martha. >> martha: what do you think when you hear that pfizer now has finished the safety protocols that have to go through so now it can be moved toward fda approval. have you ever seen a timeline is unlike this? >> never. this is extraordinary. the average time it's taken in the past to develop a vaccine has been about 8 years. this has been done in 10 months. and it was also done on the size of a trial that wasn't usually attempted either. both pfizer and moderna had more than 30,000 volunteers as part of their trials and by the way thank you to those volunteers who made this all possible to find out that this vaccine is not just pretty good, it's 90%, plus efficacy, which we have not really had the hope to expect. and here it is. and all this supported by
operation warp speed making it possible to do things carefully, safely, but really quickly in a way that's not been attempted before. >> martha: it's extraordinary. when you look at the efficacy rates over 90% on both of these vaccines. what does that tell snuff does that give you added confidence that these two different tracts came up on both sides with such a powerful vaccine? >> it does. both of these used a particular kind of technology, which is pretty new using something called messenger rna. they were both divided to the idea, if i could hold up my little model here on this nanna scale death star called covid-19. the spike proteins that you see on the surface. all these vaccines and four others right behind them are trying to raise antibodies against those spike proteins. we don't give the whole virus to people. that wouldn't be safe. we just give a little bit of it
the spike protein and the imsystem goes who, what's. this makes an antibody. then from that point on if the virus itself comes along at virus says no, i don't think so. i have seen this before, i know what to do with it, you are out of here. >> martha: if these two vaccines what do you think the time frame looks is unlike right now and how many millions of people could be vaccinated over the next several months, potentially? how do you see it? >> well, that's what everybody wants to know. and understandably so. basically, the fda now needs to do their thing and we want them to do it really carefully. there is no corners to be cut here. everybody wants to be assured that this is safe and effective. they will be looking at the data that pfizer and moderna are providing to them imminently. and then they will hold a public meeting about that so that everybody can see the data and be reassured that no corners have been cut. if all goes well, something in the neighborhood of maybe three weeks from now, fda may be ready
to make a decision and issue what's called an emergency use authorization, eua. you will hear a lot about eua. at that point it will be possible to start immunizing the highest risk people possible in december. how many doses? well, because warp speed has been funding the manufacturing of these vaccine doses. even before we knew they were going to work. because you didn't want to have to have a loption wait there, there will be about 40 million doses available in december. but, before you say 40 million people, keep in mind these vaccines require two dozens so that's really 20 million people and there will have to be a very careful plan made and it's in the works right now about how to offer those to the people at highest risk. >> martha: it's incredible testament to the private sector and the public sector and the government which don't always work together so seamlessly and we are all -- we hope that this goes very well with the fda.
and i hope you will come back because i have a lot more questions for you, dr. collins and we are all going to be looking at this very closely. thank you very much, sir. >> i would love to come back and thank you for highlighting the collaboration. this is the way we get things done. >> martha: absolutely. amazing story. thank you so much. scenes to lock down. you can't go to church. sometimes not a restaurant in some places or thanksgiving with your family. but those who made those rules have been breaking them. including california governor gavin newsom. went to a party at a swanky napa valley restaurant. >> i need to preach and practice not just preach. >> martha: the message that that sends about the science next. ♪ (children laughing) ♪ (music swells) ♪
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where governor newsom apologized for attending a party telling people they should not socialize with friends. he joins a long line. the. >> the spirit of what i'm preaching all the time was contradicted and i have got to own that i want to apologize to you. >> there are times when we actually do need to have relief and come together and i felt is unlike that was one of those times. that crowd was gathered whether i was there or not. >> you are thinking about covid. i don't even see you with your mask on. >> i was coming out of here. my mask in both of these places. >> but have you got to have your mask on. >> yeah, that's right. >> i take responsibility for falling for a set-up. this salon owes me an apology. >> here now alex times reporter and author of unrelated truth of covid-19 and lock down, alex. good to have you here tonight. the california governor is considering curfews statewide. they have clamped down on indoor
dining, gyms, movie theaters, other business in 41 of the state's 58 counties. he says he is sounding the alarm and warning people specifically about social gatherings when you that i can that kind of statement it's tough when you don't follow it. not all states are doing it but he did. >> i want to talk about governor newsom but i have to respond to the last segment with the vaccines for just a second. >> martha: sure. >> i want to say to you that it's great that we have great top line data here. we should all be excited about that. but there are two really important things we should be thinking about before we stick needles into the arms of 20 million people. first is that we don't have any safety data released. the companies are saying they haven't seen severe adverse events. we need actual safety data released. >> martha: that's the next step in the process. >> pored over by independent evaluators. we need that the second thing is
the 90% reduction is a relative reduction. steven hon got crucified for this back in august. the absolute risk reduction they are talking about is 0.3%. 0.3% of people got infected who didn't get vaccinated or who didn't have the vaccine had the placebo and essentially nobody who did the vaccine. that is good. that is a risk reduction. understand what we are talking about here. post people in both arms of the trial nearly all people didn't get a covid infection. they didn't get a sars co 2 infection. we should look at the safety data before we proclaim this, you know, as a miracle. >> martha: absolutely. that's what we just said that now it goes to the safety data level then the fda will give it a thorough review and then they will roll it out after that thorough review we are talking about the fact that the time frame on getting to this point has been extraordinary. >> yes. it has. in november right now talking about rolling it out in december. how thorough review will that
be? the fastest thorough review in the history of the fda. all i' m saying not that we shouldn't want this vaccine to work very well but we shouldn't let our hope stand in the way of looking at the data with a real dim lit eye. >> martha: nobody is going to give it the approval except the people in charge of that. >> absolutely true. as for your comments about governor newsom. i totally agree with you the hypocrisy from the political class right now is enormous. have you seen it with pritzker and knew some and light foot. more it seems on the democratic side than the republican side because the democrats have been less ferocious about calling for lock downs in general. people don't want the rules to apply to them. they think if they have money or in political power the rules don't have to apply to them. that's why so many people in the country are so angry obviously. >> martha: it's one thing if you are arguing against lockdowns and you don't want your state to do it. it's another if you are arguing in favor of them and asking people to do things that you are not willing to do yourself. alex, thank you.
always good to see you. thanks for being here tonight. >> thanks, martha. >> martha: you bet. coming up next. >> i made a determination that i believed that it was unlawful. i also thought that it was inconsistent with principles at the department of justice and i said no. >> martha: she was known as part of the resistance when donald trump assumed the presidency. now former acting attorney general sally yates is reportedly in the running to replace bill barr as attorney general in a biden administration. trey gowdy with his thoughts on that and other candidates next. ♪ age is just a number. and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein... -with 20 grams of protein for muscle health- -versus only 16 grams in ensure® high protein. and now enjoy boost® high protein in café mocha flavor.
>> i served as deputy attorney general in the obama-biden administration and stayed on as acting attorney general for the trump transition. then, 10 days in, i was fired for refusing to defend president trump's shameful and unlawful muslim travel ban. >> martha: former acting attorney general sally yates among those reportedly in the to replace bill barr as attorney general. hi, jacque. >> good evening, martha. will biden's latest round
promise. diverse as the country. there is heavy representation among people of color and women. he has also tapped a number of campaign veterans for his post. fueling speculation that sally yates may be frontrunner for attorney general. sourcing telling me the top of the pack under consideration is yates is a biden transition team adviser and deputy attorney general under the obama administration. she lasted 10 days as acting attorney general under president trump and was fired after she opposed trump's travel ban on majority muslim countries. she has been a vocal critic of the president writing in an op-ed early this year the justice department is not a tool of any president to be used in retribution or camouflage uniquely functions in a trusted bond with americans to dependence justice without fear or favor. i'm also told alabama senator doug jones is at the top of the list. the former federal prosecutor just lost his bid for a full term but sources say hes may also try to run for senate again. >> we are such a divided country right now. and so many of those divisions
started in the south. i have said this for many years. that healing can start in the south. i think that's what you are seeing in georgia and other places right now where the base of voters are beginning to look at things in a whole different way. >> california attorney general xavier becerra is also a top contender. he has filed a number of legal actions against the trump administration and would bring diversity as a mexican-american but he has already faced some opposition among progressives for being friendly to police unions. other names include jeh johnson who is also being eyed for defense posts. lisa monaco and new york governor andrew cuomo although he has denied any interest in the job. now biden's appointees could face confirmation hurdles in the senate if the republicans continue to maintain control after the georgia runoff and yates could face a challenge because of the russia probe. martha? >> martha: jackie, thank you very much. joining me now trey gowdy chairman and fox news contributor, trey. you know, jackie touched on it
right at the end there this issue of the georgia senate race and whoever dominates there is going to be -- have the majority in the senate, which is the confirming body for any of these posts. so how do you see all of that playing out? >> well, and there is also joe manchin who, while a democrat, you know, serves the state that trump carried, what, by 100 percent of the vote? what's he going to do? you put your finger on the number one issue which is the person confirmable? and you look back to jeff sessions another senator from alabama martha exactly one democrat voted for jeff sessions even though he was a sitting member of the senate and only three democrats voted for bill barr. so i'm going to be real interested if the d.c. print media starts talking about joe biden is entitled to the cabinet of his choosing because donald trump sure wasn't, not according to the democrats. i think doug jones is the safest pick. jeh johnson is probably the second safest pick and sally
yates would be the third safest pick but i can tell you tom perez, i would move to north korea before i lived in a country where tom perez worked for the blindfolded woman holding a set of scales. tom perez the head of the dnc. the guy that politicized the civil rights when he was at the doj? stop and think about doj's incestuous relationship with the dnc. that's what got us into the russia gate and we are going to put the head of the dnc ahead of the doj? i'm not the only republican that would have a problem with that. >> martha: do you think that sally yates could get the republican vote in the senate? i mean that would be a bit tricky, too. >> you know, i think think in the interest of full disclosure i have known her a good while. she had a really good representation when she was the u.s. attorney in georgia. republicans liked her when she was the dag. the higher up you get the more
political the office is she will have to answer questions about fisa, i mean, to her credit, she was very miffed at jim comey for doing an end run around her and going straight to michael flynn. it would be a tough confirmation. i think she would make it. i think jeh johnson would make it. i think doug jones would make it. javier becerra it depends on whether he is part of the social justice movement or not. i know is he a former prosecutor. not a lot of experience in the federal system. the three safest picks are jay h johnson, doug jones or sally yates. >> martha: as you point out, sally yates got a lot of attention in the early stages of the russia investigation, you know, trying to figure out who was sort of pulling the strings. you say and she -- it reflected better on her when more of that report came out, i think. and that might work in her favor. but, as you point out, you know, the link between the dnc and the
doj and the fbi is something that leaves a not great taste in people's mouths. >> yeah. it's terrible and, also with georgia two runoffs in georgia, sally yates is the daughter of georgia. so republicans, whatever negative things you have to say save it until after the runoff. >> martha: trey, thank you very much. trey gowdy good to see you tonight. >> you, too thank you. >> martha: so for a time today there was talk of canceling a christmas tradition that honors our veterans by placing wreaths on the graves at arlington national cemetery. when many wondered how their sacrifice wasn't worth a small one on our part. the president stepped in. a gold star sister whose brother is buried there joins me with her story on this next. we're all putting things off, especially in these times. but some things are too serious to be ignored. if you still have symptoms of crohn's disease
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proximate result march an annual christmas tribute to american heroes will follow tradition this year after wreaths across america was briefly canceled over covid returns. president trump tweeted i have reversed the decision to cancel wreaths across america arlington national cemetery it will now go on among the 14,000 buried at arlington is i lieutenant killed in 2007 during combat in iraq. awarded the silver star and bronze star with valor killed in the anbar province i'm very glad to have ryan manion's sister with us tonight on what this tradition means thee is the president of the ryan travis foundation. thank you for being here. i know the idea that this was canceled was a lot of people thought was odd in the first place. i mean, it's an outdoor event of putting wreaths on these head stones at the cemetery, correct? >> absolutely.
thanks for having me, martha. yeah, it was shocking. i learned on the news last night just as wreaths across america was learning the news. a lot of them found out through social media. and it was so surprising because i think, listen, i'm all for keeping the safety of what's happening and making sure that we follow covid guidelines and we are safe, but, this is a tradition that dates back to 1992. where each year arlington national cemetery wreaths are brought and placed at the graves of our fallen service members. and my first thought was where there is a will, there is a way. there is a way that we can do this safely and securely. make sure we follow guidelines. and i was thrilled that the secretary of the army overturned the decision. i don't think that came without a lot of pressure from gold star families, from incredible supporters of the tradition and even some congressional support. but i think at the end of the day, you know, all i could think
of was our men and women who served and sacrificed never took the easy way out and easy thing to do would just be to say it's canceled. hard thing to do would be to say let's figure out a way to make this work. i'm so glad that it is. >> martha: i know your brother said before he left for his last mission if not me than who. it's such a selfless message that he lived for and i think you are right. we all want these things to be done differently. it will no doubt they will have to do sort of smaller numbers who are part of this, but i believe that the act of the laying of these wreaths is such a beautiful tribute during the holidays to all of these men and women who served and i just think it's such a special event for people to take part in. you know, what would you say to those who want to be part of this, which i did today. it's very easy if you want to be a part of this. >> well, i think that we are still waiting on word of you who
this will look. it will look different this year. and that's okay. but, as the president of the travis manion foundation we put out word that we're ready to support in any way we can to make this event just as special. and i think the act of somebody i know for me as a gold star sister knowing that each year someone walks up to my brother's grave stone, looks at his name, reads his name, and plafses that wreath there, i don't think i can express how meaningful that is. and i think of all of the families that are there that have that same experience and same feeling. and in no way, shape, or form should we take that away from them. >> martha: absolutely. i couldn't agree more. go to wreaths across america and donate several wreaths to be a part of this. it's a great way to show your support for all of it. ryan manion thank you. great to have you with us tonight. thank you so much. >> thanks, martha. >> martha: that's the story of
tuesday, november 17th. as always, the story continues. so we'll be back here with you tomorrow night at 7:00 and we look forward to it. have a great night, everybody. tucker carlson is up next. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." so did you make a moment from your busy life to turn on the hearings on capitol hill today with the silicon valley ceos? don't be embarrassed if you didn't. you probably didn't. no matter how worried you are about big tech and obviously you should be gravely concerned, you may have decided to skip today's spectacle and fold the laundry or call your in-law's instead and we don't judge you for that previous hearings on big tech have not produced a lot. elderly senators who can't manage to send their own text messages wagging their fingers in the face of sneering billionaire oligarchs in san francisco all of whom seem to understand that no