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filing serenaded. they dance the night away on their special night, right there on the front yard. if that state for this special report, fair, balanced, unafra unafraid. the story with martha maccallum starts right now. >> martha: that is raising the bar for families cross country, there. thank you, brett. good evening everybody, i am martha maccallum in new york, and this is the story. we have 47 days to go until the election. they're charging into oncoming prior as his critics are returning with equal force. he has called out what he is suggesting our existential threats to the constitution, to our american constitution in 20 gently. here are just a few. on the danger of the covid-19 lockdown, he
called them the greatest intrusion on civil liberties since slavery. >> they defeat free citizens as
babies. they can't take responsibility for themselves and others. >> putting a national lockdown stay at home order house arrest. other than slavery, which was a different kind of
restraint, this is the greatest intrusion on several liberties in american history. >> there were many like this, from james fiber. >> i think the best statement was the most ridiculous tone-deaf god awful things i've ever heard. it is incredible that in this country, they break human bondage to save lives. >> martha: and another part of his comments, the eternal dow mack general also went after the organization of black lives mat. >> they aren't interested in black lives. they are interested in props.
a small number of blacks that are killed by the police during conflict with police. it usually less than a dozen a year who they can use as props to achieve a much broader political agenda. >> martha: he also in the speech part of this seasoning, he went after people in his own department. >> the whole prosecutorial power is the attornmen attorney gener. when you boil it down, the will of the most junior member of the organization. if they do have the political legitimacy to be the public face for those decisions. they lack the political buy-in necessary to publicly
defend those decisions. just be it's he named any organizations that benefits being run by his junior members. we are going to talk to trey gowdy about that.
at first for tonight, we are glad to be read by house secrety ben carson. thank you for being here, always great to have you with us. >> always good to be with you. >> martha: it's this is a lot of backlash. if this is lemon and presidential historian jon meacham on the slavery comparis. >> i don't know what to say. what do you say that? >> it's incendiary hyperbole. if you think that this is akin to slavery, you obviously never suffered under the burden of slavery in new time or in its long time system of segregation. >> martha: it's clear how they interpreted the attorney general's comments, they are. how did you interpret them? >> well, you know, i spent the day earlier this week with attorney general barr in delaware. we were at a hydroponics farm
where people were being released from prison and were given an opportunity to learn some skil skills. just being with him and hearing his comments, i know how deeply he cares about people, and particularly about black lives. we talked about that. i think that what he's talking about can be interpreted depending on how a person feels. if they hate him and they hate the administration he's in, then obviously they interpreted one way. people who know him and understand what he's trying to say interpret it in another way. >> martha: i think so many people across this country who have their businesses shut down, who fought to reopen them, to find safe ways to do that. people who wanted to go to church events are people going to restaurants, i think that produced a lot of anger, frustration, confusion -- whatever you want to call it.
>> absolutely. >> martha: that was a heart of what a lot of what i heard in that statement. do you agree? >> people have been very inconsistent in the way they've applied to the rules and to whom they've applied the rules. >> martha: that's true. >> they aren't looking at the big picture. the big picture, if we continue to shut down the economy, continue to shut down people's ability to make a living, we will create a situation that is extremely difficult to rectify. sometimes you almost get the impression that there are people rooting for that, i hope not. effect of the matter is, we've learned so much about the virus that we didn't know in the beginning. we've learned a lot about the transmission of the virus, how people should conduct themselv themselves. there will be a vaccine coming out at some point. if there are some therapeutic center absolutely fabulous, eventually the fda will get around to those. i think it will make a big difference for all of us. if >> martha: with regard to
his comments on black lives matter, because clearly over the past couple of days he had made really strong comments on the number of fronts. we are so close to the election, i think there's a lot of very strong feelings in this country about this election, about what is at stake right now in the united states of america. with regard to black lives matter, he suggested some of those individuals in the tragic way that their lives ended gets used toward the means that are political in many ways of the foundation of black lives matter. what do you say about that? >> i would suggest to the viewers that you go to the black lives matter website and read who they are and read what they advocate. it's not really about those young children who are caught in the cross fire in neighborhood shoot-outs. do you know, it's not about what's going on in chicago every
weekend. so i understand exactly what they'rwhat theattorney general . people these days take everything, try to inflame the situation. it's linked to the emotions of people. such an important time of our lives, we really need to deal with facts. let's not deal with the motion that is stirred up by people on television who are simply working for a paycheck. >> martha: i want to ask you about something else with regard to minneapolis, because this really struck me. what we saw minneapolis after george floyd's death, and then we saw the looting and the destruction of property. at the city council in that city said that they wanted to vote to eliminate the police department. there's a better way, we don't need police and the city. if they actually were the most aggressive in terms of wanting o dismantle their police department. and now they've got a huge
increase in crime. an assault, and homicide in the city of minneapolis. here's what some of those same people are saying right now. watch this. >> the crime is actually spreading out. >> what people want to know is mpd's response. >> they are asking, where are the police? that's the only public safety option they have at the moment. >> we have officers on the street telling people that they are not enforcing crime. what do we do? >> i know it's not only the police department, but that's who people are looking to right now. >> martha: it amazes me. you know, listening to these individuals were completely reversing what they said before. i mean, what do you think about that? >> it tells you that people are making political statements. they are not sincere in what they're saying because they are reversing it all the time
depending on the circumstances and depending on who's being affected. the fact of the matter is, we need the police. anybody with half a brain knows that. particularly in areas where you have increased crime. this is not a hard thing to figure out. when you throw it at them, all of a sudden they become unintelligible. the one second to last a woman that video was basically scolding tht showing up is lisa bender. we can put that tweet backup for a second, here. if this is what she said back in june. yes, we are going to dismantle the minneapolis police department and replace it with a transformative new model of public safety. that's how that's been going. secretary carson, always good to have you here. >> thank you, martha. >> martha: thank you very much. we will see you soon. dr. scott atlas on the administration's race for what we are told last night by the vice president will be tens of millions of doses by
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>> when is it going to be generally available to the american public so we can begin to take advantage of a vaccine to get back to our regular life? i think we are probably looking at late second quarter, third quarter 2021. >> martha: one day after seeming to break with his own cdc director on the timing of a covid-19 vaccine, president trump reiterating the prospect of one before the end of the year, and may be before election day. >> i'm being criticized on the vaccine grade if they are petrified that it comes in before the election.
i view it differently. i view it as if we would save lives. >> you think it's going to be ready before late october? >> it could be. it will be right there. and, it's right in that vicini vicinity. bill and dr. scott atlas, advisor to the president and dr. at stanford university. i want to play this quick sound bite from the maternity ceo. here's what he said about when they think there is will be ready. >> i think it's unlikely, but it is possible. in the country wants to slow down in the next week, it could potentially be pushed out as a worst-case scenario, december. >> martha: that sounds to me like that individual, the ceo of madrona expects a similar time frame as what the president said. sk scenario, october, definitely
something approved, he believes, by the end of december. it does that sound like that lines up to you? because that's exactly right. and no one knows. we know that there's production and manufacturing going on so we have really over 100 million doses before the end of the year. we know that the clinical trials are underway, and we know that no one can look at the data, no one in the administration -- not the president, no one, because it's being looked at by something called the data safety monitoring board which are outside experts. the best-case scenario sometime in october. it depends, just like the ceo said, it's going to be based on the event it depends on the number of cases and the statistical significance of the difference between the people that get it and the who don't. it's all about the numbers, but it's true. if the case scenario is october. if this is what i know, because
i was briefed on this just yesterday. there will be vaccines being delivered within 24 hours after the emergency authorization by the fda. the drug has to be deemed fit safe and effective, the fda decides that it's going to -- you know, issued the emergency authorization. within 24 hours it is teed up, ready to go. if there is going to be a very rapid deployable system that's already been submitted to congress as well as all of the states. we know that there it's set up so there's a prioritization, like every pandemic, like every vaccine rate will generally be high risk people. the people who are most vulnerable, the first responders, health care they will be able to get the vaccine or at least have the chance to take the vaccine no later than january. if that's what was told. there will be 700 million doses of the vaccine available by the
end of 2021. it's not all at once, that means as we go there will be hundreds of millions of doses available. we are very happy. we are very optimistic. we have to go fast on the development of the vaccine. >> martha: i think -- the way the process is set up the president could say it had to be ready by election day. it doesn't sound like much of a timetable other than what's happening. i think that a message that is perverted in this way is how -- >> right, the urgency is not the people are dying. that needs to be understood. we have to make people of the
vaccine. people that are making others afraid are literally killing people. it's super important, we are optimistic. it's going very well. it's really a warp speed effort. >> martha: in terms of dr. redfield's statement, he said into 2021, essentially, before anyone who doesn't have risk say, i want to go to the doctor and get my vaccine. because that's not the statement i was told by the people in h's who are doing the vaccine deplo. i just got the information from them yesterday before the press conference. i'm not sure exactly what he meant to where he got his information. i'm not disagreeing with him, i don't know who told him not. all i can go by is what i was told. >> lastly, is a mask of better protection or just as good as a vaccine which may only have
perhaps a 70% efficacy rate? >> you know, martha, i hate to comment on somebody else's statements, but that statement is just -- i don't know where that statement comes from. i think it was taken out of context or maybe it was said inadvertently, but i don't think anyone believes that. i really don't think -- >> martha: a very deliberate in his statement. >> we are going for vaccine. yeah -- we want to go ahead to. >> i was going to say, i can't really comment on why people say certain things. we all make missteps. the vaccine is being developed some life can get back to normal. this is common sense. nobody would be developing a vaccine if it wasn't needed. fiona we will be watching, the whole country well. it's great to have you out here tonight.
>> thank you. >> martha: story exclusive with brett favre returning college to football and what it will mean to americans across the board in the middle of the pandemic and massive unemployment. next, a live report for the term's upcoming campaign events in battleground wisconsin tonight, when we come back. well, i was invited. not by me, mate. my husband was kidnapped. this is terrorism! no! we're not afraid to die. that's why we're gonna win. i'm not afraid either. we have a chance. i came here to plead for his life. infidel. rated r.
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hillary clinton took the state for granted in 2015. she lost a president trump after not campaigning at all in the very traditionally blue state of wisconsin. all of that changed in that november of 2016. in moments, we will speak to undecided wisconsin voters to get sides as both sides tried to keep each one of these people on board. we will talk to them about what matters the most. live tonight. high steve. >> we are here on a beautiful fall evening. the population about 3,000 credit that looks like it's the number here at this airport hangar. about 40 minutes time, air force one is going to work up. the president will speak at that podium for about an hour. this is his fourth trip this year to wisconsin showing just how important the state is, what a battleground of days. we want to buy supplies for years go by just 20,000 votes.
less than 1% of 3 million votes cast. a surprise win for the president four years ago, something he wants to repeat. this is fighting the fact that former vice president joe biden is leading in several proles by six or seven points. when you talk to people here as we did, they are not buying it. because those are fake news. they are as fake as they were last time. i say last time it was all a blowout, hillary was going to win by this much. he's going to win 40 states. to go the president is likely to talk about the economy, especially manufacturing jobs. he's also likely to talk about law and order and voting here is already beginning. absentee ballots being sent out today and early in person voting starting in one month's time. it's be one of steve harrigan in wisconsin tonight. thank you steve.
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veneration dairy farmer. caitlin singleton is a rental manager and mom of three who voted for hillary's. voted for clinton back in 2016. great to have all of you with us tonight. thank you very much for being here. caitlin, i want to start with you. do you set you never imagined that at this point, you would be undecided having voted for democrats in prior elections. what is it that has you undecided, and what are you putting into your thinking process at this point? >> sure. i never thought i would be undecided i have always voted democrat since i was able. right now, i think it's my personal experience from what i've seen happening. it's such a divided country
right now. really, just the heat from both sides, the rhetoric from both sides, the supporters, i think, on both sides. i cannot count how many times i've been personally attacked on social media and in person or just giving my own point of vi view. i think a lot of people are pointing fingers at our current president for being so divisive. it is really coming from both sides. it's hard to choose a side right now. >> martha: want, at this point as you look at what's going on out there, you work with the group that supports families and children in wisconsin, voted for clinton, what did you think about the biden harris ticket. >> i don't know right now. i'm still undecided because i understand a lot of suffering
that biden put on the black community, and i figure now that maybe he's had his coming to moment and wants to make things right and try to make her country a better place for everybody. >> martha: when you look at that, and you look at, harris is the vice presidential candidate there, what issues are most important to you, is it coronavirus? is it see what you have in kenosha? what is pushing you one way or another? >> what is pushing me the most is systemic racism. there is no -- we have as much -- we have as much justice as we can afford in this count country. my biggest thing is affordable housing, eviction prevention, you know, those are big ones. we need laws and policies and procedures, barriers lifted for african-americans.
we are pressed on every hand. it wisconsin is the worst state for african-americans in the country. when my kids were small, it was the best place to bring them, now my grandchildren, it's wor worst. the one why is that? >> under this last administration, the last ten years, under scott walker's administration, the fighting among our people, we have infighting and it's in the capital, it's in the white house. we want our communities to be at peace, but there is no peace in the white house. >> martha: wanda, he said in your notes earlier that some of your black friends were trying to convince you to vote for president trump. why is that, and are you finding them convincing or not? >> while i am so undecided. one while i was saying, i'm going to vote for donald trump, right? then i see the outright racism,
right? because we live in a time where racism is quiet. it's manipulation, it's undermining racism, right? and trump is so outright with his racism. >> martha: why do you say that? specifically? >> i think about the five black boys who were persecuted, right? the movie was just horrible. all of the money he spent to prosecute these young boys with no evidence. he still stands behind that state. >> martha: you're talking about the new york case many years back? let me get you, chris. i don't want you to feel left out. i was very interested in what wanda was saying. you're a farmer. i understand the president is going to announce 13 billions in additional aid for farmers in wisconsin will be part of that package tonight. will that have an impact on you?
>> well, it has -- it may have a small impact. the reality is while we continue to see more and more stimulus money or sources of funds being sent to farmers, a lot of what farmers really want, especially when it comes to issues like trade, is we want fair trade. that is one of the challenges we've had here while trump has been president is that after four or five year's, a lot of our wisconsin dairy farmers call that up with another year and a half with a trade war that only put downward pressure on those prices and made it hard for a lot of wisconsin farmers. he said in his speech at the rnc that he wasn't going to be afraid to use it as leverage to try and help us out on trade, and that going for it is very for me. the one when you look at regulations and other issues that i know have a big impact on farming.
if you added pick, who would you lean toward at this moment knowing you've got several weeks to decide? >> it's a challenge. to some of the issues, for example, trump has been very supportive with farmers on was the united states. that was something that came about during the obama biden administration where the epa was writing the rules where they said they were overstepping their bounds. vice president biden and presidentpresident obama didn'to anything about it. it too trumps credit, he helped take care and has worked to put different rules in place that are certainly more friendly to farmers, and at the same time, helping protect the laws. >> let me ask you one more question, if i may, about the violence that happened in kenosha and the destruction of businesses they are. it does that have an impact on
you, the issue of purity and protecting these businesses and please? >> for sure. that's one of the issues where i am so turn. i have three biracial children. their father is african-americ african-american. i have seen the different treatment that he has had, even with just normal routine traffic stops. at the same time, i've gotten to know many police officers and law enforcement agents in the city of madison who are amazing. for every one bad experience i can name, i can probably name ten really amazing experiences. so the rhetoric is, it is very divisive. when i'm looking at who i'm going to vote for, i want to vote for president who can acknowledge that yes, we have
some issues in our criminal justice system that you need to be changed, not just with the police, but all across the board. we also have to support our law enforcement officials and officers. we need to acknowledge that even though there are some bad apples, that's not across the board. i want to vote for president that acknowledges, yes, police officers need to be supported and need changes across the board. >> martha: i hope we can talk to all of you again as we figure all of this out. very important, obviously, the right to vote, and your voices should be heard. glad to have you with us tonight, thank you for being with us tonight. be well. president trump on air force one, heading to wisconsin, biden refused to go there to apologize for not
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>> peaceful protest is who we are and what we do. if some other people come along and try to disrupt, yes, but you don't send in people acting like stormtroopers into the scene and evoking even more -- even more unease and unrest. >> martha: and nancy pelosi against people who are keeping their peace back in july. unwavering in her support. now, she is drawing a clear line of distinction. here's what she said on the house for today.
>> we support peaceful demonstration. we participate in them, they are part of the essence of our democracy. that does not include diluting, starting fires or rioting. they should be prosecuted. that is lawlessness. >> committee chairman, good to see you. we've seen a not so gentle change in the language that democrats have used in regard to this issue from what we saw when all of this in the summer. >> yeah, you can be 100% behind law and order or you can be in her case, 100 days behind. spent about 100 days. in that time, she had time to compare eight cops to stormtroopers. she had time to call kevin mccarthy the enemy of the state. she had time to get her hair done. that's none of my business.
certainly, to go t to a salon. she had no time to defend law enforcement until the polls started tightening. 10,000 arrests, $2 billion in property damage and a couple of cops fighting for their lives to finally figure out that the numbers were in on her side. >> martha: i'm curious what you think about the story set have come out about the justice department potentially seeking cases against local officials for essentially not doing their job and protecting the people of these cities over the course of the summer. you think that's a legitimate case? >> i looked at the statute. it's really hard to win those cases, it has to be a conspiracy to really buy for his the government or take over federal property. to think back to that courthouse in portland. if you are conspiring to take over a federal courthouse, i
mean my advice is go to the substitution accounts. those are easier to prove. the last time we had a high profile case, the government lost. stick with what is easy to prove. don't reach for things that are legally a stretch. >> martha: because you have to prove conspiracy, essentially. >> while you got a conspiracy, and then you have to do it beyond reasonable doubt. really it's a hyper politicized environment, it's easier to prove our sin and that you put a laser in his eyes and tried to find him. >> martha: i want your thoughts on bill barr with the efforts within the administration, he is been seeking out very forcefully on a lot of things the past few days. this is him talking about efforts of people within the administration or within the government who are trying to thwart their actions. watch this. >> instead of that position, it became actual resistance.
there are undoubtedly many people in the government who work for the administration. liberals protect. the president is going to state an office and sees power -- i've never heard any of that. i'm the attorney general, you would think i would've heard about it. they are projecting. it's me when you've got two different things, their purity got the thwarting of the government from inside. it then you the concerns that have been expressed by the democrats at the government will not ever see the presidency if he loses in november. what do you think? >> i think bill barr is a really serious guide. if he's >> i think he is a serious guy, he isn't really serious lawyer and you can hear the frustration in his voice. mccabe, comey, brennan, peter strzok.
go through the pillars of our institution in our, and he is frustrated -- he had his own prosecutors asked for eight years on a case where the guidelines are more in two years. so he's frustrated. >> martha: trey, thank you. thanks for coming in. still coming up, pro-hall of fame quarterback brett favre on the power of football when america needs at most. stick around save 40%. for that.
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states as you can understand. great teams and very unfair to players. it may be their last chance to show their skills to the nfl. >> martha: joining me now exclusively is bright for greater feed for being >> one of them is wisconsin, and to the president's point, we have been through a lot in the nation. and i think back when president bush went out on the field, i feel like that's the kind of inspiration, that's a kind of inspiration that we need to come all of us to rally around those kinds of great sports events in america.
>> football needed to be back, it's exciting and i'm excited to see other conferences playing as well. and you are right, we need something to take our minds off of everything else that is happened in the last six months. >> martha: that's for sure. the nation has been through so much, but those crisp fall days and going to the stadium, and gathering around the tv on watching. talk to me about the is most states, and what it means to people in the midwest of this country. >> it means a great deal.
and of course i was an opponent in minneapolis. many times. most states just like ohio and pennsylvania, and several others. it's green bay and wisconsin in general, blue-collar and hardworking, just good at people. who loves the football. whether it's the packers are the badgers, and it was a wonderful place to play football and live, i particularly loved the cold in mississippi, and dave fell in love with the people. >> martha: one of the things i feel very strongly about now is pain medication.
>> i started working with a company called the great eagle who is a cbd product and i thought i would never get involved with that but it's a pain relieving gel or lotion or roll-on, whatever you want to use. i wish things like green eagle and others were around when i was taking 16 vicodin at one time. before i knew it i spent 75 days in rehab to overcome it. so now i speak volumes on nonaddictive pain reliever products and this is one of them. >> martha: the reality of football and it's a good alternative. thank you so much, great to have you with us tonight. sorry we have such a short time. thank you for coming up. take care and come back soon.
so in the latest episode of the "untold story" podcast, one of my favorite topics, and much more. we will be back tomorrow night and you can see that podcast on foxnews.com podcast and we will see you back here tomorrow night, friday. have a great night everybody. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." it's hard to believe that the current virus has been in this country for about nine months now since january. since the day that doctors discover the first case within our borders our leaders have assured us that they only care about our safety. that's what this is about, our safety. they told us that every decision they make us a fight this pandemic, bulimic in our interest. every restriction they impose they tell us they based on science alone. most americans want to believe that because most americans want