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>> you are so popular. >> awesome. >> a lot of people are going to be dropping by tomorrow. our all american summer concert series. >> thank you -- >> sandra: one hour from now, the supreme court will issue its final decisions on two highly anticipated cases that could impact politics in america. election maps and the scope of executive power and whether the trump administration can include a citizenship question on the 2020 census. those rulings are expected top of the next hour. but first, the trump campaign calling out the far left as the first ten democratic candidates took the stage in miami last night, and in a matter of hours, round two will be underway. good morning, everyone. i'm sandra smith. >> trace: good morning, sandra. i'm trace gallagher.
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president trump weighing in on the debates, gearing up for the g20 summit. >> sandra: back at home, the 2020 hopefuls heading on everything from medicare for all, taxing the rich, and immigration. it's >> it is just not a human right, it should be an american right, and i believe that the best way to get there is medicare for all. >> it is a basic human right, and i will fight for basic human rights. >> abolish their private health insurance in favor of a government run plan. just a show of hands. all right. >> i think the choice is fundamental. >> private insurance is not working for tens of millions of americans. >> they deserve a president who will put your interest ahead of the rich and powerful. pharma thinks they own washington. well, they don't. >> it is not right that the ceo
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of mcdonald's makes 2,100 more times than the people serving at mcdonald's. >> i'm talking about everybody else. i am still talking about everybody else. >> just one small part of this. i'm talking about a comprehensive rewrite of our immigration laws. >> trace: we have live fox team coverage, chris stirewalt joins us in just a moment, but we begin with peter doocy life. which candidate seemed to be on defense the most? >> it was beto o'rourke who stood at center stage right next to elizabeth warren. endured far more criticism than her or anybody else, including castro, who chided him for not agreeing with him that border crossing should be completely decriminalized. >> i just think it's a mistake. i think it's a mistake, and i think if you truly want to change the system, we have to
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repeal that section. >> thank you. >> i want to respond to this very briefly. i helped to introduce legislation that would ensure we don't criminalize those seeking asylum and refuge. >> perhaps the most progressive platform last night was laid out by senator elizabeth warren, who has risen in the polls, well bernie sanders has fallen. when it comes to eliminating private health insurance coverage, she and bernie are the same. >> yes, i'm with bernie on medicare for all, and let me tell you why. i spent a big chunk of myself studying why families go broke. one of the reasons is the cost of health care. medical bills. >> she also danced around a question about whether or not there should be any limits on abortion, as they took credit for a woman's right to choose
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before being called out by amy klobuchar. >> the only candidate who has -- i respect everybody's goals and plans here, but we do have one candidate who has actually advance the ball, and we have got to have access for everyone. >> i think -- >> i want to say that there are three women up here who have campaigned for a woman's right to choose. >> the most searched face was actually tulsi gabbard, who complained that they didn't think she was getting enough talking time on stage compared to elizabeth warren. >> trace: we will talk a lot more about the debate, but what do joe biden's advisors say? >> trees, they are telling us that they think the american people hear a lot about joe biden, but not enough about
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his policy, so his team said they were happy to see the tenor of the discussion last night when his name didn't come up one single time. so they aren't planning on having him initiate attacks against anybody else on stage tonight, so they just want to do it directly to the american people. that doesn't mean that he won't be targeted or called out by others on stage because after all, he is on that everybody is trying to be right now. >> trace: peter doocy alive for us in miami. thank you. >> sandra: meanwhile, summing up the debate, describing the shift by many of the 2020 democrats. chris stirewalt, here bright and early for us. after watching last night, i am sure, chris, good morning to y you. "dems trip over each other to be the most liberal." so, who won? >> the winners last night, not
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to be too cute, but the winners last night, i would say joe biden and donald trump for the big winners last night. i heard -- i heard a lot of interesting things. but as i listen to the candidates mangle spanish in an effort to prove that they were the most sensitive, i heard more about transgender politics than i expected to. i heard a lot of stuff that the republicans would love to -- i heard a lot about a party that is moving to the left. that all benefits donald trump. but i also heard nobody on that stage who was as interesting to listen to or as good at this kind of stuff as joe biden has been so far. and that's got to be good news for joe biden. >> sandra: that sets him up for tonight for sure. to your point, many of those candidates were attempting to make their point.
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surprisingly so, beto o'rourke answered a question in spanish. here's the candidates. [speaking spanish] [speaking spanish] >> sandra: one after another, they try to outdo each other. was this effective? >> it was effective at making them look like they really wanted votes. neediness can be charming in a candidate to a certain degree. especially for castro, who couldn't speak spanish as well as his fellow texan, beto o'rourke pure no matter what linkage she was doing, he seemed sad. he seemed unhappy. he seemed uncomfortable to be there. he seemed like he was doing this all through a prism of real social discomfort, and i don't know what happens for him from here. he, of anybody on the stage,
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needed that night to get back into the second tier to show that he was doing it, and he looked as miserable as a dog and a thunderstorm. >> sandra: oh, my. the president was quick to respond. one word in all caps with an exclamation point, "boring." he was barely mentioned by name. not a whole lot of pointed attacks on the president himself. obviously, policies in different ways, but what was the strategy there? >> you've got very little time, ten people on stage, you know that this is a difficult thing to do. makes the situation more fraught because they had basically changes throughout the night, lost some time due to a technical delay, and it was tough. it tulsi gabbard for example, i don't even know if she listened to the questions that were asked of her. she just sort of regurgitated
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stuff that she wanted to say about iran, iran, iran, amps before. maybe you have a very limited amount of time, just say what you're going to say. >> sandra: she did that right outside of the opening gate. telling the nation about herself you are not many people knew who she was. the president's campaign manager tweeted this out. "democrats are for open borders, these debates are great. the american people can now see how far left they are. if these policies were implemented, millions of foreigners would overwhelm public services. they are disconnected from reality. there is likely going to be another big debate on that stage tonight when the other ten candidates take the stage. such a night out for us, where we will ultimately see joe biden, bernie sanders, and others take the stage. >> you have some others looking like they might fall off, particularly kirsten gillibrand,
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who has had a real rough run here. there is a lot of incentive to fight. you saw castro, you saw others out there. you are going to be on the attack. >> sandra: chris stirewalt, thank you very much, sir. we will have debate reaction. she will be joining us live at 9:30 eastern. >> trace: in the meantime, in one hour, the supreme court will release their decisions. they could directly impact the face of american politics. reporting live from the supreme court. david. >> good morning to you from the last day of the 2019 term here the warning bell will go off at 9:55, and those opinions will start coming down. the justices don't release all five remaining opinions at once. it is one by one. we'll start by by talking about citizenship. we are going to start talking about gerrymandering. two separate cases. one from north carolina, the other from maryland. they will have to see the limits
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of partisan gerrymandering. they could actually put in a together, put these cases into one reeling together, and it basically says that democrats in maryland and republicans in north carolina may have gone too far when drawing can get congressional district lines. if they see that they were drawn to far, it could not only change maps in north carolina and maryland, but in other jurisdictions in time for the 2020 election. of the other big story we are looking at is the census question. the trump administration wants to put a question on the 2020 census, asking people if they are u.s. citizens. there are many people against us, saying that there could be an undercount by as much as 6.5 million people including in urban areas if they are not properly counted on the census, but those in favor say it is important to know how many people are in the united states, and it also holds of the voting rights act of 1965.
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the census, the last time there was a blanket question on all censuses in the united states was 1950. we are going to be getting those opinions coming down today. 10:00. we will be down here all day, shannon bream in miami breaking it down as well. >> trace: thank you. >> sandra: meanwhile, breaking news in the case of the missing utah college student. police looking where she was last seen. entering the backyard with shovels. what we are now learning about the person who lives there. >> trace: plus, an american woman vacationing in the bahamas killed in a shark attack. what she was doing moments before the attack. >> sandra: plus, president trump in japan where he will be meeting with world leaders, including vladimir putin amid tensions with iran. ththe i had cola issues a new warning to the white house. >> i am not sure that their leaders care for their people. if they do, they will make a
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than anyone else in the country. >> sandra: breaking new details on the back strap. the faa reportedly discovered a new switch that could push the plane downwards. an issue that is expected to keep it grounded up to three more months. the glitch was said to have been discovered by pilots testing an outdated swipe simulator. they say they are working to fix the flaw. >> you know what? iran can do whatever they want. it's just fine. i have plenty of time, but they have a country that is in economic distress. i have all the time in the world. in the meantime, they have very strong sanctions. they have to live with those sanctions. >> trace: president trump weighing in on iran, as the supreme leader closes the door on talks.
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let's bring in a retired army four-star general, david perki perkins. he served as commander for the second brigade during the invasion of iraq. great to see you this morning. >> how are you doing today? >> trace: i'm doing well. you heard that president trump feels like he is in the driver's seat. on the flip side of that, clearly making all of the big decisions and iran says he is not willing to compromise. i want to put this on the screen. "if you accept the request, you will suffer the worst thing, and if you don't, you will huff and puff. excuses. "he doesn't really seem like he is in the driver's seat right now, does he? >> i just got back from that region of the world, and i have to tell you, the economic sanctions are having a very big effect on them.
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unfortunately for the iranian people, they are in a tight spot, the economy is not doing well. so it's too bad for the iranian people. on the second part of that, it is really impacting their ability to conduct a maligned activity throughout the region, there ability to support hezbollah, so from a security point of view, with regards to reduced activity and probably more importantly to the future, they cannot stockpile weapons like they have been the specifically in southern lebanon. another point that out to be concerning to the iranians, as you know, this week, mr. bolton, the security advisor along with his counterpart in israel had a meeting in israel to talk about security. what is not worthy of that is not the iranians were not there, not invited. so in that part of the world, if you are not at the table, you're
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probably on the menu. >> trace: you talked about the sanctions having a major impact. now, iran is doubling down, saying they are going to enrich uranium to a level before the 2015 iran nuclear deal. that really gives europe a big chance to weigh in here because those sanctions from europe could hit them again, so iran is actually risking even more sanctions in the european community. >> i think they ought to be very careful about how hard they push not only the u.s. but the global community. they are trying to make this a u.s.-iranian issue. we all know it is a global iss issue. the u.s. has shown great restraint, and i think the harder they push, the easier it will be for others. >> last night during the debates, the candidates talked about the greatest threats facing the planet. climate change, and of course before was one of the top topics. listen to cory booker and
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amy klobuchar. >> it was a mistake to pull out of the deal. one of the reasons why we are seeing this hostility now is because donald trump is marching us towards a far more dangerous situation. literally took us out of the deal that gave us transparency and pushed back a nuclear break out 10-20 years. >> this president is literally every single day 10 minutes away from going to war, one tweet away from going to wear. i don't think that we should be determining foreign policy in our bathroom about 5:00 in the morning. >> trace: they said this was an imperfect deal. he was trying to negotiate a better deal, which is democratic phrasing for it wasn't really a great deal to begin with. your thoughts, john? >> i won't get into the politics of should have had a deal or not. but when i was in the region, the european allies realized that iran's not only short-term goals, but long-term goals, and
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that is what we are talking about. the long term goals are not conducive to stability in that part of the world, and that is important that we focus on that and not get sidetracked by a small event occurring day by day. >> trace: yeah. >> we need to keep our eye on the long haul. >> trace: david perkins, thank you. >> thank you. >> sandra: meanwhile, questioning the lead investigator of the case for nearly four hours. why he is not testifying that he made mistakes while on the case. plus, there is this. >> mueller. did you look at our own people? what they were maybe doing to put their fingers on the scale? >> trace: what he asked robert mueller -- saying it is time to find out whether tough intelligence officials spied on the trump campaign. we will look into that next.
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i'd rather not. >> trace: house minority leader steve scalise reaching a milestone in his recovery, returning to the field for the congressional baseball game two years after he was critically injured in virginia. democrats prevailed last night, winning 13-7 against the g.o.p. daniel game supports d.c. area charities, as well as the u.s. capital police memorial. >> sandra: we would love to see that game play out. it was great to hear from steve scalise of course, making his big return. then again out there this year. no crutches. >> trace: emotionally, for him, that's got to be a huge milestone. great game. >> sandra: certainly is. now two more developments on the missing utah college student. police searching the home where she was dropped off by a lyft driver late at night last week.
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we learn more here. claudia. >> sandra, the big break in this came yesterday after an exhaustive search of her cell phone records, leading investigators to this bungalow style home just north of downtown salt lake city and a quiet residential neighborhood. detectives spend hours overnight searching the backyard with shovels, sifting through what appeared to be a burn pile. the owner, who has not been identified, reportedly lives upstairs and runs out the basement through airbnb. no word on what police have found, but i can tell you, the mood is grim. >> we just want to make sure that we treat this -- get all the information that we can before we share the speculation. it's because a 3-year-old grad student was reportedly active on a dating website called seeking arrangements, which connects young women with wealthy older
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men. she was last seen ten days ago after returning from a funeral in southern california. she went missing after taking a rancher from the salt lake city, utah, to park miles from her apartment where she drove off with someone else. that park is just about 5 miles from here. now we don't know if the person she met is the owner of this house, and it's unclear where he is right now if your neighbors described him as standoffish, not very social, and they watch the police activity with mounting concern. >> we have the canines here, they have been in the backyard. they have been looking in the car. i called my husband. this is bigger than just a dope dealer or something. something really bad happened over there. >> some neighbors also reported smelling smoke coming from the backyard here in recent days, as if the owner was trying to burn something. police are continuing to collect evidence. they also towed away the owner's kia sedan. no arrests have been announced,
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but sandra, that is likely to change. we are expecting police to hold a press conference in just a few hours. >> sandra: claudia cowan, back to you. >> trace: the world is watching as president trump arrives in japan to the g20 summit where he will hold talks with xi jinping. will definitely be a breakthrough? plus, there is this. >> i think of it this way. who is this economy really working for? it's doing great for a thinner and thinner slice out the top youth >> sandra: we heard that a lot last night. elizabeth warren, just one of the candidates, saying that it is only working for the wealthy. ten more candidates, including joe biden, bernie sanders, getting ready to take the stage tonight. we will get new reaction from the trump campaign next. >> do i want to watch it? do i want to watch these people? it is a very unexciting group of
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>> sandra: stock market open for business as the president arrives in japan for the g20 summit. here we had tuesday morning, 2 minutes into trading. the dow is up 14 points. investors are waiting president trump is meeting with xi jinping this saturday. of course, the big topic will be traded, and does idea actually get done? larry kudlow will be joining us to talk about those trade talks. where do things stand, and a whole lot more, so stay tuned for that interview. an upward start. sharply unchanged. >> trace: it looks like all things are going -- >> sandra: what sort of conditions the chinese are going to put on a deal, a lot of talk about what happens with huawei.
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we will have a lot more with larry kudlow coming up. >> when you -- not doing great for anyone else, that if corruption, pure and simple, we need to call it out. can't make a living wage. it is an economy that works for everybody. not just the wealthiest in our nation. >> we have a system that favors those who can pay for access and outcomes. >> yes, we are supposed to be for free college, free public college for our young people. >> sandra: 2020 democrats on that debate, hammering president trump's policies, specifically the trump economy, saying it only benefits the ri rich. president trump calling the debates about a half hour in, "boring."
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kayleigh mcenany it joins us now. there is a lot of question about whether the president was going to weigh in. he said that on the interview with maria bartiromo yesterday. i am in this game. i have to watch. he called it "boring." certainly others how to different take, but that was his. >> yeah, i think he is exactly right, when the most thrilling part was when the microphones went out, everyone was confused. that should tell you a lot about the debates. the president was spot on. it is remarkable that the compilation of sound bites we played at the top, to hear these democrats actively running against the hottest economy on record. some of those were outright li lies, elizabeth warren it saying that lower income americans are not benefiting. false. those wages are growing fast. you have any global track, saying prescription drug costs are all not arise when in fact they had been cut by
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$23 billion. these are just mistruths, but the wonderful thing is you cannot hide the growth of the economy, the success of the economy that people feel in their everyday lives. >> sandra: it was really interesting to see those candidates on the left to try to take on the trump economy. because that has been a big question, knowing that president trump is going to run his reelection campaign on the economy. how can they target it when the stock market continues to boom, the on employment rate is at historic lows. he had a different take on how things went last night. here was his response. >> i love the contest that we saw between our candidates tonight. we are going to see a deep field. we saw it yesterday. >> the questions are focused on america. again, immigration. how do we make the economy work for everyone? >> sandra: there was a lot of debate on the issues, and on policy, kayleigh. what was missing, perhaps -- and
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maybe you -- there wasn't a lot of targeted attacks on president trump himself. certainly they took on his policies, but not specifically naming the president as much as one might have thought that that would happen. >> i suspect we will hear a little bit about president trump from joe biden, mentioned him 76 times in his speech. tom prince, maybe he was watching a different debate. that was a bit of a delusional sound bite there, when he talks about the contrast between his candidates. you've got any club a try -- remember, she is supposed to be the moderate, the centrist, saying i agree with castro on decriminalizing border crossing. or i am at least open to it. there is no contrast. this is open borders, self we heard about policy, we heard about that policy that would raise taxes and intrude on the lives of american citizens.
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>> sandra: there was certainly some contrast when the debate opened on health care, kayleigh. you know the democrats are targeting health care as an issue to run on in 2020. how did they do there? >> yeah, well you have honest democrats saying i want to abolish private insurance, which would harm 200 million america americans. many of them are happy with their plans. he sought bill de blasio say that. then they are saying i want to eliminate private insurance. rest assured, government takeover of health care is the abolition of private insurance, costs go up like what we have seen in canada and the united kingdom, so they are all on the same page, even though they may try to hide it. >> sandra: tonight is bernie sanders and joe biden, among others. ten more will take the stage. ahead of that, bernie sanders penned an opinion piece in "the wall street journal" published this morning. the headline: "trump is the
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worst kind of socialist." leaving ordinary people at the mercy of the free market. interesting to see bernie sanders, self-proclaimed democratic socialist, try to make the president out to be a socialist. does that set us up for what we might see tonight, kayleigh? >> yeah, that's a really bizarre take from bernie sanders. like i said, you can't hide the reality from the american people, feeling it in their everyday lives. we had a cnn poll saying that 71% of americans say the economy is in good shape. they look at bernie and say that just doesn't make sense. he can call someone else a socialist. i understand maybe he doesn't want the title on himself, but it has no bearing in truths that low and middle income americans are not feeling the trump economy. >> sandra: who does the trump campaign see as the biggest threat or potential matchup in 2020? who do you think it is going to be? who does the campaign think it is going to be closer mike >> we
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are often asked matt, and this is a homogenous group of socialist. one group with many hats. there may be a bit of variety, but it is the same organism of radical government -- whether it is amy klobuchar or castro, we will take either. that is the best advertisement for a president trump. we almost consider it a contribution for president trump. >> sandra: kayleigh mcenany, thank you. >> trace: know to the southern border, where fox news got a look at conditions at the border patrol facility housing hundreds of children. >> trees, good to see you. u.s. border patrol opened its doors up to us yesterday, conducting a media tour of this clint, texas border patrol
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facility. currently 117 children are being detained. age is one month up to nearly 18 years old. no cameras are recording devices of any kind were permitted inside. we had to leave our cell phones behind. pen and paper only, so we went old school, but once inside, we were shown to holding areas. one is a large sally port that has been converted into a holding pen. the other is a large space broken up into eight or nine individual cells. i counted at least 20 kids inside one, sitting on temporary cause and bunk beds. we were not allowed to talk to any detainees. now, they have tvs, bathrooms, and air conditioning. we were shown pallets of food and a closet with hygiene items and basic medical supplies, but the common theme we heard from any official we had access to, "we're trying to do the best with a severely limited
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resources we got." >> the fact is that the conditions at our ports of entry have not improved. almost every statistic is higher. more migrants at the port of entry appear longer wait times, more detainees in custody. more officers have been redirected to assist in border patrol. >> officials also said that they have to defend themselves from allegations made from attorneys, claiming inhumane conditions inclined. agents say that's hurtful because they do genuinely care about the welfare of these migrants. noting that many of them are parents themselves, and they certainly have empathy, and they are trying to do everything humanely. now critics will argue that what we saw yesterday was sanitized and scrubbed, meaning that they had time to make improvements, maybe restock some shells, but
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that is up for debate. again, i don't think many people will argue that these are glorious facilities in here. they are beautiful and sparkling, but again, the point they tried driving home to us is that they are doing the best with the money and resources that they have and the staffing shortages that they have. >> trace: casey stegall lie for us in texas. >> sandra: vanderbilt winning the college world series and game theory of the finals. the championship caps off a historic season with the commodores setting the sec record for when mys. 13 players heading to the majo majors. all right, congrats. big win there. >> trace: immigration is a big topic both on the debate stage and capitol hill. working to get a $4.5 billion
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border bill on the president's desk. will he sign a question mark >> sandra: the move by democrats to bring robert mueller into congress will backfire on them. >> if he stays within the four corners of the document, if he goes outside the document, he is going to get killed politically because then it becomes a political commentator. the biggest loser of mueller coming into the house i think is nancy pelosi. it's not just easy. it's having-a-walrus-in-goal easy! roooaaaar! it's a walrus! ridiculous! yes! nice save, big guy! good job duncan! way to go! [chanting] it's not just easy. it's geico easy. oh, duncan. stay up. no sleepies.
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>> the mueller thing never stops. i heard about it last night, and i just said does it ever end? at what point does an end? it's just a disgrace. no collusion. the democrats want a do over. they had a do over in the house, that didn't work. they had it in the senate. that didn't work. >> trace: president trump
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reacting to robert mueller. doj director, and mercury public affairs, ian. good to see you. the democrats are clearly hoping that the robert mueller testimony is the magic elixir that leads toward impeachment. it kind of reminds us last night, this is a two-way street that can often backfire. listen to him. >> we spent two years focused on whether a foreign country was going to influence or interfere with our election. did you look at our own government? did you look at what our own people were doing to put their finger on the scale? did you interview christopher steele? do you know which russians were feeding dirt via the dnc? >> trace: he is saying all those questions are going to come up. your thoughts? >> i would say that both sides of the aisle are not going to get much out of robert mueller. that's why this whole thing is just political theater. he is not going to go beyond the
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report. we saw it in that early june press conference. he got up there and said absolutely nothing. what happened? washington got all aflutter because people didn't read the report, so some of the things that he said may have been new information for people who weren't paying attention. the bottom line is that this is going to be in mid-july, most people are going to be paying attention, and it will be like putting up a billboard in the desert. >> trace: this thing will not live up to its height. it is going to be hyped up, answer the question as if it doesn't, does not hurt their momentum towards a possible impeachment proceeding? >> i think it's going to hurt their momentum in a lot of ways. at the debate last night, you had john mullaney, saying that people are not asking about this. this is not what they are talking about on the campaign trail, so you bring this testimony out in the middle of debate season, it is going to be
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a problem for nancy pelosi. until impeachment becomes on their mind in swing districts, she is not going to bring it to the floor. i don't expect that she is ever going to budge. >> trace: clearly president trump is not just sitting by. he is on offense, as he is won't to do, telling maria bartiromo that he thinks robert mueller is cheating, that he deleted these peter strzok-lisa page emails. i want to play the sound bite and get your reaction. >> terminated them illegally. he terminated the emails. he terminated all of the stuff between those two. something you will never see. robert mueller terminated the text messages together. he terminated them. they're gone. and that's illegal. that's a crime.
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>> trace: your final thoughts? >> he's right. those text messages that occurred are gone. that's unfortunate. but a lot of times you see the incompetence that results. i saw that when i was i doj. so whether mueller had anything to do with that, it is certainly concerning that those text messages are not available. >> trace: ian prior, good of you to join us. >> sandra: an american woman killed in a shark attack in the bahamas. what we are now learning about this tragic case. wanted to get away who used expedia to book the vacation rental that led to the ride ♪ which took them to the place where they discovered that sometimes a little down time can lift you right up. ♪ flights, hotels, cars, activities, vacation rentals.
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her family. we have the story from miami this morning. jonathan. >> hi, sandra. the attack occurred near rose island. jordan mincy, a college student from california was snorkeling with her family. her parents reportedly spotted tiger sharks and yelled out to her, but she didn't hear them in time to get out of the water. the royal bahamas police say she was attacked by three sharks. she was taken to hospital, where she was pronounced dead. the ministry of tourism on behalf of the people in the bahamas express their deepest condolences to the family and loved ones. back in california, a neighbor of the victim have this reacti reaction. >> my heart is pounding. i can't believe this. i don't know how we are going to go through this. >> on gofundme page, they write "she was a beloved daughter,
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sister, girlfriend, and friend. she had the most beautiful, gentle soul, and she will be missed deeply. the family is raising money to transport her body back to california. they also say that a portion of the money will go to an animal rescue in california that was apparently one of jordan's favorite charities. >> sandra: horrible story there. jonathan, thank you. >> trace: well, to highly anticipated supreme court rulings. the justices to decide whether the 2020 census can include a question about citizenship and a case about political gerrymandering. we will bring you those decisions when they come down. plus, the trump campaign reacting to the first democratic debate, citing evidence that the party is moving far to the left. our a-team breaks it down next. >> we can put working people first again in america.
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bill hemmer. this could shape american politics for years to come. one on the scope of the president's executive power and our elections. >> sandra: the following at all for us. shannon, good morning to you. >> while i am actually down in miami. we are covering the debates here as well. because some of these cases are so important, i want to give you an update now as we await these decisions, which will be run out shortly. we are waiting on gerrymandering. the court has never gotten involved on partisan gerrymandering, but we know that parties have openly done this, putting together congressional districts that have that ready to win back elections. there are -- it could impact the makeup of the house. what controls capitol hill. these are critical decisions, but so far, the court has not gotten involved in partisan gerrymandering. the business of telling parties how to do their job at the state
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level. those two important state cases could shape the future -- 435 people there on the house i peered the big one everybody is focused on this morning is the census. the trump administration added a question to the 2020 census about citizenship. it was very interesting, heated argument. you know, you heard a lot of skepticism on both sides. there were studies presented, the left arguing that when that question is there on the form, people who are minorities or -- whether they are here illegally or not, they may be hesitant to fill out that form. they argue that those minorities are going to be undercounted when it comes to things like federal funding and those congressional districts. the right has said that it is a legitimate question. the administration was right to add it to the senses. they did so illegally, and they note that for decades, it has been a part of the questionnaire. short or long form through it
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numerous democrat and republican administrations. they say it is not partisan. there are interestingly developments because after they heard the case, they petition the court, think there is more information. even though it has been fully argued, that there was a political strategist to actually give advice to the administration to use the question as a way to benefit republicans. that there was a different animus behind it, so the court has now had to grapple with this, what do they do with new information? the lower courts, some of them have said okay, possibly, we need to take another look at this. this is one of those cases that bubbled up so quickly because the government said we need to get these forms -- we need a decision right away. they prefer to let these things percolate in the lower court so that i can be fully flushed out, but right now, making a decisi decision. it was interesting in the last 24-48 hours, leading us to believe they may not actually give us a definitive decision on
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that census question today. this is the final day of the supreme court term, so they will give us some indication. will they rehear part of the case question mike sent it back? they really don't have a lot of options right now. we anxiously await the answer, but knowing fully that the court may say that they can't make a decision today. we will know soon. >> sandra: shannon in miami. postdebate coverage was great last night. >> thank you. >> sandra: david standing by. when that news comes, we will go to it. shannon, thank you. >> there is no contract. this is government takeover. this is open borders. we heard about policy, we heard about bad policy that would raise taxes and intrude on the lives of citizens. >> sandra: that was kayleigh mcenany just moments ago.
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round one of this first democratic debate. the campaign saying it showed americans just how far the left has gone. "the new york post" summing it up with this cover today. "ten left feet." let's bring in jeff mason, white house correspondent, jeff holmes, former chief of staff to senator mitch mcconnell. good morning to all of you. you had mentioned a few times last night. >> sort of the unlikely star of the show. >> sandra: jessica, it was surprising to see how very few times they directly targeted the president of. >> i think it was really smart strategically. they want to make this about democrats, our values, our vision for america. 2020 and beyond. i think that if you spend all of your time talking about president trump when the audience who was there and the audience at home, at least the
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democrats and a lot of left-leaning independents, already agree with you. that is not how you make your case. it is very hard with one minute and 45 seconds to distinguish yourself. if you want to spend 20 minutes rattling off all the ways that president trump is terrible, it's a big yawn. >> trace: why not go after joe biden? he is a front runner. nothing about that. >> tonight is the next debate. joe biden will be center stage there. i think also looking out his strategy, he has directly taken on president trump. some of the others may do the same thing, as well as taking on the front runners. really, in some cases, they needed to introduce themselves. doing that with what they are about, there will be plenty of time to go after president tru president trump. >> i can tell you that the happiest group of people, the democrats are making this about democrats is president trump. you heard from kaylee, senator mitch mcconnell. i think that they laid it out here talking about medicare for
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all, talking about the elimination of private health insurance, talking about unrestricted abortion. talking about open borders. all of those things are almost incompatible with winning elections in this country, so i think that the more that they can talk about that, the happier that republicans will be. >> sandra: a very interesting. he was a moment that stood out when they got to immigration. here are the candidates takes. >> watching that image of oscar and his daughter, angie valeria, was heartbreaking. we would not turn them back. we would accept them into our country. we will not build walls, we would not put kids in cages. we can better deal with this problem. our country has made so many mistakes by criminalizing things. whether it's immigration, whether it's mental illness, whether it's addiction. we know that this is not the way to deal with problems. >> sandra: did anybody come out a winner in that debate?
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>> oh, absolutely. there were two main winners. elizabeth warren did exactly what she needed to do. she came in at the front runner, the centerpiece of the entire debate. she really dominated the first hour as well. she kind of tapered off, mostly because of the moderators. >> sandra: when it comes to immigration, i am addressing what we just heard. >> castro did. >> there was no definitive solution. >> castro has a solution. he is talking about decriminalizing migration, saying it should not be a criminal offense. elizabeth warren has now signed onto his policy. he was the breakout star. he needed to up his name i.d. he made that case compellingly. >> trace: you have this problem where the democrats clearly try to play on emotions when it comes to immigrations. that picture of the man and his daughter lying dead in the river.
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the problem is there is no -- and i want to play a marco rubio sound bite in a minute. there was no definition to their plan. what would they do to solve the crisis? everyone agrees it's a crisis. >> that's right. i don't disagree that castro out kicked his coverage in terms of where he came in on this debate, but you put your finger on it, and ultimately the beauty of debating yourself is that nobody has to renounce the fact that everybody on stage for the last year and a half has ignored the fact that there is a crisis. trying to convince us of quite the opposite. now we have a picture that comes out, nobody can ignore. absolutely heartbreaking. now we have a crisis of the democrats can agree upon. >> trace: we want to play the marco rubio sound bite right now. >> they want to decriminalizing crossing the border. they are fighting us now, trying to get more money to take care of people who are already here. they don't want to do anything about the law, but they don't
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have any answers of how to fix it. they don't have an answer in english, they don't have an answer in spanish. >> they don't have an answer in english or in spanish because a couple of candidates brought out the spanish as an attempt to -- >> sandra: we just got the ruling. the supreme court has issued its ruling on gerrymandering. standing by, david. >> hey, sandra. the justices took those two cases together. this is the decision right now. 5-4 decision, the conservative justices versus the liberal justices. the majority deciding that the supreme court does not want to get into the business of gerrymandering, of deciding if gerrymandering is something that should be on the federal level. they are not saying it's okay, but they are leaving it at the state level. this was, sandra, an issue because in north carolina, they were accused of drawing state lines to benefit their political party for congressional districts. democrats in maryland, they were
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accused of doing the exact same thing. so the supreme court voting today 5-4, basically that they are not going to get into the gerrymandering business. they never issued as standard for gerrymandering in the history of the supreme court. it was a blanket standard. right now, the u.s. supreme court think that they are not going to get into the business of gerrymandering. they are going to leave it to the lower courts. at the same time, sandra, they are not saying that it is okay. they obviously have problems with that, but they are not going to rule on it here. >> sandra: all right, david spun at the supreme court with us. federal courts have no role in policing partisan redistricting. this certainly could reshape u.s. politics. shannon bream has been standing by for us. you have been leading us up to this decision for quite some time. your reaction? >> it's interesting because we are doing this digitally today.
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they have been really good about doing this in real time. essentially, that's the bottom line. these cases are very much about using their power to allocate these very important districts. as you can imagine, the left leaning justices, led by justice kagan. the majority is saying that we have no commission to allocate political power and influence in the absence of a constitutional directive or legal standard to guide us in the exercise of authority, so basically, they are saying listen, there are all kinds of other avenues for states to handle this stuff. legislative body or independent body. it sounds like for now, they don't want to get involved with it. as david mentioned, they do make mention that they will not always be okay with this. there are no boundaries, but it is something to be left to the state. it is not a job for them to do. we stand by for the senses decision, but this is the first
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big one of the day. >> sandra: very interesting. shannon bream. we will continue to get reaction to that as we now have the supreme court ruling in the partisan gerrymandering case. it really changes the political landscape. >> trace: i want to bring in judge napolitano. we thought that they would come down on this. maybe they would push it off. making a decision, they kind of punted it back to the state courts. >> the decision to craft congressional districts, or in the case of one of the state legislative districts is really not a judicial function. so basically, what the court said was in less you use race or gender or some prohibited basis for making these decisions, we're not going to get involved. the people are presumed to want the congressional districts let their representatives choose for them. this is just not a traditional function.
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so this is not a total washing of their hands, but it basically does say you cut your own districts. politically, it's wash. it's two cases. generally favored the democrats, the north carolina gerrymandering generally favored the republicans, but it's basically saying the state legislators, we are going to give you a little bit more wiggle room than we have given you in the past. you do your thing. >> sandra: so they judge by a 5-4 vote, given that the federal courts were not the place to oversee, or as we report, second-guess the partisan actions of elected officials. how does this change over all the political landscape when you look at it broadly, judge? >> if there is going to be a change, sandra, it's going to be a slow one, with the exception of north carolina. the congressional district lines for the 2020 elections for the entire house of representatives
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have already been drawn. so we are not going to see any radical changes overnight. but it does basically say state legislators, you have a little bit more wiggle room. stay away from race, but you can do what you want with geography. and i live in a congressional district in new jersey which is along the delaware river. i remember living along the hudson river. that's a 60-mile difference. there were three other congressional districts between where he lives and where i live, and yet we are in the same district. under the old rules, that might be considered gerrymandering. that kind of a district, shaped like an upside down u, would be okay. >> trace: they say this is kind of leading to nowhere. you had two states, one democratically controlled, and one republican late controlled, now we throwing it back to the states. >> great argument, trace.
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that is the argument of the dissent, basically saying they came to us for garlands, and we punted. we didn't give them guidelines. when they don't want to hear a case, either because they can't resolve it or because they fear flood gate of similar cases come in, it is a trick that they use, saying this is political, and we are not a political branch. the other two branches, congress and the present, our political, and the states are political, but we are not, so don't bother us. >> but they knew that going in, so why not make the decision a long time ago before you actually bring this thing in? >> you know why they waited until the last minute, i don't know. if they were going to order changes, they would be subject to a lot of criticism for waiting this late, but since they wash their hands of it ended in order changes, it is best that they will wash. maryland and north carolina state today, the same as they were last week.
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so now we wait on the census -- that case will come down -- if it doesn't come down in a few minutes, something fishy is going on. >> sandra: we were told that we would absolutely get that today. i want to bring shannon bream back in. judge, if you could stand by, justice kagan, she obviously dissented on this. we are learning a little bit more, via the blog, what she had to say. >> it is interesting. she is reading her dissent from the bench right now. they want to make their displeasure very clear with what the majority has done. she is reading a portion of that from the bench. it sends a strong message, just how strongly she feels. she writes in the dissent that there is essentially -- the court is taking a break on something that would have been -- that they should have gotten involved with. she said "they entrench themselves in office and against the voters preferences."
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"if left unchecked, it may cause irreparable damage to our system of government. essentially, this is the first time i read the court refuses to remedy a constitutional violation because it things it is beyond it judicial responsibility." she thinks they are taking the easy way out it seems. she ends it" is giving them a pass from judicial review was doing that, the majority is tragically wrong." she is run by the other three liberal justices, about how they could have done a better job with it. it sounds like she thinks they are taking a complete cop-out by -- as the judge pointed out, it will benefit republicans. again, writing the majority opinion, they set obviously there are things that happen that are extremely partisan. this is something the federal courts don't need to get involved with.
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congress can do it. it is not a job for the judicial branch. again, this is kagan, her spirited debate, essentially saying we are copping out, this is something that we should have decided. for now, they are saying about they will not and get involved. >> sandra: pass from judicial review. shannon, thank you. we stand by, waiting on the other decision. can i get your response to this? a chief justice john roberts reeling for the conservative majority." no one can accuse this court of having -- we have no confidence to -- in the absence of constitutional directive or legal standards to guide us in the exercise of such authority." your reaction? >> the reason justice kagan used such strong language, calling them majority "tragically
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wrong," she fears that this is a break. this is a break from the decisions that have preceded this. because up until today, the supreme court has commissioned panels of three federal judges on a regular basis to allege the gerrymandering districts that they were basically fair. so, radically changing that, that is what has her so animated and using some strong words. the chief justice, knowing what it is going to be, we are judges, not mathematicians, not an economist, we are not geographers. local politicians know better than we do where the natural borders of these districts are. there is no set answer to this. once this comes back again, and there is a change in the makeup of the supreme court, we will probably get another decision. >> sandra: judge, if you could
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also stand by, i feel that you want to get in here. the stakes are huge. >> this is why the supreme court matters. perfectly illustrates the difference between the 5-4 conservative or liberal supreme court. what we are looking at here is precisely the right decision. the supreme court has absolutely no business legislating entirely there. they have to follow the constitution and the law. inserting yourself as a justice into a political process, and inherently political question, which is how do you draw lines, it is incompatible with the system. i think this is an incredibly important decision. >> trace: i don't know about that because i think what kagan is so angry about is that this is a push, you had one state on one side, and the supreme court was supposed to settle this
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argument, and now they send it back to say okay, if you are in a g.o.p.-controlled legislator, you do it your way, and then the democrats do it their way. that is not the way it is supposed to work. sometimes you have to settle debates. >> i think that is exactly what she is arguing. she is saying that this is fundamentally about our political system. if not the supreme court, to make that sort of determination or to offer guidance, then who? >> as i was listening to all of this, i just kept thinking state and local elections matter the most. we spend all of our time talking about what's going on with the federal level. i remember during the obama tenure, we saw the implications of that specifically in cases related to gerrymandering. there are crazy things that go on, like in counties where there are prisons. prisoners are counted as being residents even though they can't
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vote there, which obviously affects congressional lines and things like that, which i do believe needs to be addressed in our courts. please get out and vote. it does matter. and it matters who is sitting in the oval office. >> trace: is troubling when you let them make their own rules, and all the supreme court is saying do what you like. it is kind of what they said. >> they are saying that exactly. some of this does have to do with race. with north carolina, and absolutely did. >> trace: i don't think it has anything to do with race. speak out when it was argued in north carolina, -- >> trace: they are putting these votes together. they are separated -- >> i understand that there is race -- >> what they refuse to do -- >> when it was originally argued -- >> what they refused to do, they said that there is a court role in determining if you'd
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determine it based on race or a whole bunch of different criteria. what they said they cannot do is substitute a court's judgment for our political process on and inherently a political question. just dealing with partisan politics, and i think judicial restraint is absolutely the right path. >> sandra: . >> sandra: judge napolitano is standing by for us. jump into the conversation. what do we need to know? >> i think jessica has her finger on an issue which is potentially explosive, which is race. a decision based on race, a congressional district drawn to favor one race or disfavor another would be an exception to this decision. this decision will not apply. the courts would immediately jump in because race has been removed from the menu of choices for the state legislators. i wish they had given more guidelines. we all deal. and now we are going to have 50
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sets of guidelines which are going to be set by the 50 state legislators. instead of one standard uniform guideline from the supreme court. on the other hand, i know how judges hate this stuff. they hate being mathematicians. they are not good at math. that's why they went to law school. they are just washing their hands of it. >> trace: what jessica is arguing is not what the supreme court justice either. it had nothing to do with race. they would get involved. this is not about that. >> this case is not about race, but this case does not interfere with the other gerrymandering decisions where the supreme court has struck down decisions that are based on race, stated differently. if they were made on race and race alone, it would not have had -- the court would have been forced to address it. >> sandra: david' live outside e
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court. >> this is just as elena kagan, reading her dissent right now. that is something that justices don't do all the time. it is something that if they really feel fiery about something, if they really disagree, then they will read it. she is doing that now. i just want to read some of her dissent. obviously, she is upset with the way this was decided. "the majority of the response for this analysis is discomforting. the majority does not contest the lower courts findings. how could it? instead, the majority says the state officials intend to say power is perfectly permissible, even when it is the dominant factor in drawing lines." i want to show you all shot right outside from where i am standing. a group of folks protesting. this is on the citizenship question. we are still waiting to hear if they will decide the census
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question. many say it is going to undercount the population. we could have millions of people you are not the official census. they want to know who our legal citizens are who are actually here, and they also say it upholds the voting rights act. so you can see that group right here now. we will wait to hear on that. we have to wait for justice kagan to finish her dissent. sometimes those can take a while, but we will be standing here waiting for you. the next one will be read out by chief justice roberts, the citizenship question. can they put that on the 2020 census. >> sandra: what is the thinking right now before we get back to shannon, david? what is the thinking on the citizenship question? we haven't gotten that he had. >> yeah, we haven't got it yet. there are really two different sides.
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justice kagan is reading her dissent right now. that is the delay. normally these opinions, and a little bit faster, but the administration, the commerce department who oversees this, watching this one closely. because they have to print off these forms in the next couple of weeks, even though the census is not until 2020. they need to know if it can be on the paperwork when it starts printing next week. really, any moment now, we are expecting to hear that question from the supreme court, and we will bring it back to you. >> sandra: as we await justice kagan to finish there, david, interesting to see her closing paragraph. "not as more in porch and then free and fair elections. i dissent with deep sadness." we are going to take a quick break. >> trace: okay. >> sandra: we will be right back. ♪
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ago. as expected on the last day of its term, ruling that federal courts may ultimately not intervene to block even some of the most partisan election map drawing by state lawmakers. this does allow gerrymandering to continue unabated. that just handed down by the supreme court. perhaps even more importantly the decision by the supreme court on whether or not to allow this question on citizenship on the census. so as we await the outcome of shannon bream joining us. we have been anticipating this for quite some time. you are alive in miami with us. welcome back. >> yes, it's great to be with you. interesting to be doing this. the chief justice again writing for the majority, clean opinion. 5-4. conservatives taylor, liberals together. again, saying this is in our
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place. not that this is not -- the solution doesn't lie with the federal courts. we are not going to legislate this. it is up to congress to think about this. the closing paragraph that we talked about with justice kagan, pretty big thing for a justice to do. still going through it quite extensively. talking about the passion of this dissent. criticizing through the dissent's bare decision not to get involved. we get involved in things all the time people think that we shouldn't. "of all of the times to abandon the courts duty, this was not one. challenging the new cases in peril of our government. part of our role is to defend the foundation. none is more important then free and fair election. with deep sadness, i dissent." it is interesting that she has been a very big voice.
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offering a number of big opinions, she has been very pointed and her criticisms on the losing end. she has had very strong majority opinions, and we think of her as one of the newer justices, but she has had several years on the bench. three justices who are more junior to her. she is taking on more of a voice and maybe the next wave. they are getting older and can't serve forever. there is a lot of focus on her. she has really pushed back on several things. she has pushback on the idea that the court would overrule presidents, and a lot of people think that -- she and justice breyer have said that this court has become uncomfortable with overturning precedents, simply because they don't like the way that it was done years ago. she seems to be sending warning signals, saying our very system is at stake. that is what this court should
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be guarding. so again, she continues to read from the bench. >> sandra: all right, shannon bream. thank you for that. we do have the other decision on the census question. we know that that is out, but we don't have it yet. trace. >> trace: let's bring out the big jay panel over here. >> for a second, i was like what are you talking about? >> trace: we have david's bond at the supreme court. the decision has been made. we just don't have it. we want to make sure we get it right. you can imagine, jeff, when this decision comes out, the gerrymandering case, both parties saying we kind of fumbled it a little bit. in this case, there were extreme losers, extreme winners. >> definitely something that president trump and his campaign care a lot about. i think the indication, that the
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decision is likely to be in favor -- >> trace: they have now thrown this case back to the lower courts. so apparently a couple of footballs, punted them both today. so the senses, these were kind of working their way back to the lower courts. the justice department said no, we want you to look at this right now. they have to be printed, so we need an answer right now. on whether this question -- >> i am sure we will hear from elena kagan about this. she has been defending precedence. they usually takes five years to get a question changed. the trump administration moved to this up to two and a half years. so there was a lot of cause for concern on the parts of democrats. we hadn't had legitimate debate about it. it then there was that last-minute piece of filing that came from republicans that show the reason that they had wanted this question out o out of ther. >> trace: the doj argument --
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it was on the census for decades and decades. let's just put it back on. >> sometimes the doj can be wrong. [laughs] >> trace: they said get this going now. >> if punting it now means that the question can't end up, then it's a blow to the president and the administration. that something that he absolutely wanted and wanted right away. >> sandra: judge napolitano standing by right now. judge, this goes back to the lower court. >> i'm trying to read 92 pages of print that is very small in size. but i must tell you, just skimming through this, this is a significant defeat for the trump administration. and for the president personally, who of course wanted this question on there and wanted an understandable reason for having it on there. one of the reasons that won't be is because there is a companion case in maryland, and in that
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case, the judges decided to scrutinize the information of the political operatives who came up with this idea. stated differently, all these allegations about the racial bias in support of the census question will now be litigated not by one, but by two local courts, and the question, it appears, will not be on the senses for 2020. >> trace: yeah, and i guess, my question, judge, would be why would the supreme court -- i guess this was kind of force upon the supreme court. that's fair assessment. they said what you look at this, and the supreme court said okay, and they have decided this is really one of those cases that belongs in the lower courts, but that could take years. >> the supreme court is not in the business of evaluating evidence. but let me point out that this is a unanimous decision.
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there is some disagreement. some justices pairing off, but for the most part, the decision to send this back to the lower court is 9-0. that's because when new evidence is discovered after the trial court has ruled, after the appellate court has ruled, and when that case is pending in the supreme court, they are not in the business of evaluating new evidence, so they follow standard operating procedure. as hot as this issue is, everybody from the president to those demonstrating outside supreme court, the supreme court did the right thing by sending this back to trial court to scrutinize the significance of this newly found evidence and then come up with final rulings, and then those final rulings will eventually make their way back up to the supreme court, but as you, trees, or one of you just suggested, that cannot happen before the 2020 census. so this question is off. who knows if it will ever come
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back? >> trace: they are printing these on july 1st, so it's done. this is not going to happen. >> this is a ruling against president trump. he won't be happy, the administration won't be happy. it will have implications for -- the discussion about immigration. >> sandra: real quick. >> there is a reason for conservatives to be excited. there is this entire change happening in our judicial syst system. the idea that the courts are confined by the law. i think what we saw here, although disappointing to many conservatives, the court saying that there is a role where it is appropriate and inappropriate. we are not going to be legislating our judgment -- >> so i would agree with that. i feel differently about the first case, but i'm sure it well that might be a sensible republican take on this, that the president is going to be upset that brett kavanaugh and neil gorsuch, who are his guys on the bench -- it was a
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unanimous decision. >> i think that is a way that the liberals loo look at the spt partisan -- >> let's talk about marit garland. >> talking about the supreme court, not the process to get to the supreme court. we are looking at justices taking the appropriate role. what their job is. >> trace: they are saying they didn't have enough information. the lower courts are still processing this information. we will have something to base this on, and we will go forward. for the time being, we simply do not have enough information. >> sandra: back to shannon bream. shannon. >> okay, so here's the thing. there was a lot introduced in the case that had to do with the commerce secretary, how the decision came about to add this question to the senses in 2020. so it's interesting that this is going to be sent back to the lower courts. meaning we have no idea what is going to happen here because the forms have to be printed. we have a deadline.
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we have to move ahead. they talk about the fact that they have questions about the explanation from the secretary about how this question actually came to be. they have a lot of latitude, but there has to be a framework that is legitimate to work on these things. so the court says we are presented with an explanation that it is incongruent with what the record reveals about the agency's priority and decision-making process. it is rare to review a record, when in evaluating -- but having done so, we cannot take into account the decision made and of the explanation given. they talk about the fact that there was a lot of back and forth. it seems like they wanted to add this question very early on in his tenure, and they explained the record shows that he had conversations with different agencies. the doj, looking for information that may help justify this question in some way.
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then they say the public explanation of it was something different. unanswered questions about how this thing came to be, and that they are right to question when the agency does something like this. they have to do it within the framework that the law provides. the majority sounds like that they are not convinced. that's why they are sending this back for another look at probing into what was behind the decision. again, that makes us wonder what happened, that it had to be printed. do they move forward without the question simply because the court left them in limbo? after hearing recent development, the court may not actually decided, and a lot of people portray that this way. that question is good, the question is bad, it stays on the form or it goes, essentially as bad as this happens, it may not be -- those forms have to go to the printing press. seems to be the core of the
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majority's reasoning. >> sandra: bottom line, it is blocked for now. >> trace: let's go back to david's pon -- >> i just want to -- we can take a live shot. just to show. 50-75 people just casually here. still processing what this is. this is a group that does not want that senses question to be on the census. there are some cheers. they have been yelling "count me in." they don't want to put whether they are a u.s. citizen on the census. those forms have to be printed really by the next week or so, so it looks like this is a victory for this group. they are going to be speaking soon. but it's interesting because the supreme court, with the two big
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cases that we have been waiting for, the gerrymandering, they both have been sent back to lower courts without an official definitive 100% definitive decision here today at the supreme court. trace, sarah. >> trace: david spunt standing by. on the other case, they turned their back and said -- my question in this whole thing is if you are in california on the political spectrum, we go back to the anti-team for one second. that was a concern. it changes. you can quite frankly change congressional districts. because some people are going to say i'm just not going to answer the question, so you undercount the population, and the democrats don't get the representation in states like california. texas, firmly g.o.p., now really kind of right in the middle, correct? >> it's a good point that you
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bring up. it sort of ties the two decisions together. in the end, if they are both about representation and fairness and getting people to congress -- the people who are criticizing the idea of having that question on the census where those who were concerned with regardless of how you feel about having immigrants in the country who came here illegally, should they be represented? should our numbers be represented when it is time to go thought? >> i would be hesitant to celebrate if i were on the liberal side of this. they didn't answer the fundamental question. they answered a legal question. throwing it back to the lower court. >> trace: they won this round. it will not be on the senses. >> no question about that, but i think the fundamental question about whether or not it is appropriate is still out there. could the answer at some point? probably not for 2020, but that
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question is very much -- >> sandra: they are saying no way is this fully resolved. >> oh, way. this has been an issue for a very long time. what i do think is important is to contextualize this beyond just voting. it has been used for that and for a lot of other things. i was just reading in the opinion by justice roberts that he said that the administration, adding that citizenship question, "seems to have been contrived." stopping short of accusing the trump administration of lyon. that's not what you want to see if you are the trump administration. if you are wilbur ross, people who are deeply involved in this and have also been involved in voter fraud and things like this. it will play right into that conversation. i'm sure it will feature front and center. >> trace: hold on, nancy pelosi now talking about the senses.
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>> sandra: the weekly press conference. >> that is all to say that we have to make sure that question is on there, and i certainly hope it is not, but whether it is on there or not, that the american people come forward and be counted. it would be apparent that people say i am not going to be counted because it means so much in terms of who we are as a nation. what makes up america, who are we, and how do we address the needs of the american people? and by the way, how do we reapportioned the united states so that people have representation that is justified by their numbers. here we are. right now on the floor, we are debating to save our federal elections act. this is part of hr one.
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we are taking some of it in pieces. the reason why they should not be bipartisan, paper ballots, funding to fortify our voting machines and the rest, addressing the cyber security that we have. congresswoman and madame chair, the administration committee. this is step one. we will have more legislation. the homeland security -- issues on the other legislation. this happens to be the house administration committee. >> trace: nancy pelosi addressing what we were discussing. now she has moved on, so we will move on as well. the question is of course the census. we are going to take a quick break, and we are going to come back with more. >> sandra: two huge decisions. a lot of reaction for you. we will have more when we
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>> sandra: breaking news from the supreme court. just a few moments ago, blocking the citizenship question sought by the trump administration to be added to the 2020 census. that case is now being sent back
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to the lower courts for more consideration. that news from the supreme court just moments ago. meanwhile, house democrats on the hill are modifying the bipartisan border bill passed yesterday by the senate. revisions will target safety and migrant kids. mike emanuel is live on the hill for us where all of that is happening. >> speaker nancy pelosi -- we are calling on the trump administration to engage in immediate conference to do the best we can for the children before we leave for the fourth of july holiday. she is addressing reporters now. a lot going on now, but there is intense pressure to deliver with federal agencies, some democrats would like to go further than the senate bill, but with the vote yesterday, 84-8 here that is about as bipartisan as things get on a deal that was hammered
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out by republican richard shelby and democrat patrick leahy a short time ago. leader mitch mcconnell said democrats in the house or just take the bill that passed and ascended to the president for his signature. there is a whole lot of pressure. they want to go home and say that they delivered on the humanitarian crisis, but they also want to go home for the fourth of july. >> sandra: a lot happening in just the last hour. breaking moments ago, the justices sending down the ruling is on gerrymandering as well as the census. we've got a brand-new hour coming up your trees, thank you. >> trace: i will be leaving and turning it over to my good friend, benjamin hall. do you decisions. one, 9-0. the other was 5-4 on whether gerrymandering would be -- >> sandra: that is not over yet. joining us from the white house. back.g us from the white house. the powerful va home loan benefit
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>> sandra: fox news alert, the supreme court blocking a bid by the trump administration to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census in a unanimous ruling. welcome to brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm sandra smith. >> benjamin: and i'm benjamin hall. the court kicking the question of gerrymandering back to the lower courts, saying the federal courts have no role and what is essentially a political decision. shannon bream is live from miami. shannon, what's the latest? >> let's start with that sense of citizenship question. secretary of, secretary abroad, it was completely plausible, and completely aboveboard that they would add a citizenship question to the census. they added that they needed a session now.
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what they got was sort of a mixed opinion. in the end, it is probably not going to work out for them because what the court has done -- listen, he would be completely within his rights and duty and authority to add this question, but they are not buying the explanation behind it. at least not the majority opinion, so they send it back. and it is almost logistically impossible that this would be resolved in a way to make it in time for 2020. this is written by the chief justice. "the evidence told a story that does not match the explanation the secretary gave for his decision. in his telling, he was simply acting on routine data requests from another agency, yet the materials report indicate that they went to great lengths to elicit the report, and on like a typical case in which they may have reached a decision, the sole reason here seems to have been contrived. they talk about the fact that secretary ross early on into his
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tenure had gone to a number of agencies looking for information that he would have thought would have justified this question. they say that doesn't match what he publicly said. now there are other justices who -- you know, they are not buying it. just as thomas, he concurred in parts but dissented, joined by justice kavanaugh and neil gorsuch. if they complied with the law and gave a reasonable acclamation, the court correctly answer those questions made affirmative. that ought to end our inquiry. for the first time ever, the court invalidates it simply because it questions the sincerity of the agents otherwise adequate rationale." he doesn't think that they should have probed any further. it is unlikely that it will end up on the census, so it is a win for those who oppose her. >> benjamin: shannon, thank you very much. >> sandra: now to the 2020
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election after democrats took to the stage last night in miami appeared at jockeying for a breakout moment by championing various progressive policies on that stage. >> when you've got an economy that does great for those with money and isn't doing great for everyone else, that is corruption pure and simple. we need to call it out. [speaking spanish] >> we need to include every person in the success of this economy, but if we want to do this, we have to include every person and our democracy. our situation now is unacceptable. this president is attacking and dehumanizing the immigrants. it is unacceptable, and we are going to change it. >> sandra>> sandra: tonight, tee candidates will take the stage, including front runner joe biden and bernie sanders. what a night that will be. bret baier is also in miami. great coverage last night. share with us here in
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"america's newsroom" what were your key takeaways from the night? >> sandra, good morning. i think the key take away was that joe biden had a pretty good night. he wasn't mentioned once. before we get into that, they sent us out an email of prepared responses to possible attacks, so they were ready for pushing back on what they thought was going to be an onslaught of attacks that never happened. so, by that stance, he did well. we will obviously see how he does tonight. i think donald trump was not the focus as much as we thought he was going to be. i do think that a couple people had good nights. julian castro really made a name for himself or people who had not been following the race. he had a town hall here on fox news, but he came out of the shadows and was the most searched on google as far as the candidates, and i think
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cory booker, just by his compassionate answers and the most time of any candidate speaking last night. >> sandra: a very interesting. and i know in your postdebate coverage, your initial reactions, he pointed out john delaney and how you seemed sort of shocked that he emerged as one of the moderate voices on that stage last night. here is a sound bite from the former maryland congressman. >> we need to get things done, and i think that's why we need to operate in a bipartisan manner. i would sign in laws on a party line basis, absolutely. of all of the big transformative things that we have happen, they have happened when huge majorities of the american people get behind them, which is why we need real solutions, not impossible promises. >> sandra: not a household name for many. they are not very familiar with what he has been proposing during his campaign. what did you make of his performance? >> you know who is familiar, sandra?
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the people of iowa. john delaney has been campaigning at the longest of any single candidate. he has been to a lot of pizza ranches up and down iowa. he is out there, sending a centrist message. i think his biggest moment was when new york mayor bill de blasio went after beto o'rourke on the issue of health care. he turned around getting slammed by john delaney on the issue of health care. the centrist approach that he was laying down on health care, flaws. i think it will be interesting to watch delaney, if joe biden somehow has a stumble, there may be a flight to safety as far as democrats looking for a central option. he is a possibility, as amy klobuchar would be. and we will see how the candidate from colorado does tonight. >> sandra: 's all right, that sets us up for quite an evening. the federal court will not
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intervene in a partisan gerrymandering. that decision out, and it goes to the lower courts on this citizenship question now on the 2020 census. >> it's kind of a split. i think congress really wanted to see a decision. we thought that they had a good case. now that it is not, there won't be time to go back to the courts. on the flip side, if you read elena kagan's dissent in the case of the political gerrymandering, it is quite powerful as far as her saying this is a fundamental thing that the court should decide. by not doing that, it opens the door to a lot of places making decisions on their own. states will have to make that call. >> sandra: it's interesting reading through. we are still reading through here, bret, and i was looking at john roberts response to the citizenship going to the lower courts. the indication for why they went
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in this direction, talking about not enough of an explanation from the trump administration. in his words, what was provided here was more of a distraction, so john roberts. so, bret, i am sure that you will have more coming up. we appreciate your time this morning. >> you bet. it will be fun. see you soon. >> benjamin: breaking of elements in the search warrants a missing college student in utah cute salt lake city police urging a home last night where mackenzie lueck was dropped off by a lyft driver in the middle of the night more than a week ago. claudia, claudia cowan is live in select city. >> they have taken down the yellow crime scene tape and wrapped up their investigation here at the house but not before removing bags of evidence, telling why the owner's car, and sending them expending many grim hours in the backyard here. they use shovels to dig out possible clues and search through a darkened area that
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appeared to be a burn pile. showing much of the dig area. while we don't know what police found, neighbors reported smelling of foul, smoky sand, as if the owner was burning something. >> i woke up to that smell. looking around, there is no fire. but it was strong enough to wake me up. >> the break came yesterday after a search of mackenzie cell phone records, including text messages that she sent on june 17th, shortly before she vanished. these are the last known pictures of her, taken by airport surveillance cameras at 2:00 in the morning after she arrived from los angeles. she took a rideshare to a park where at about 3:00 a.m. she drove off with another person who was waiting for her. that is just 5 miles from this house. it is not known if the individual she met at that park is the owner of this house, and
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he has not been identified, but neighbors say he has been here for about two years and describe him as rather antisocial. they say he lives upstairs and rented out the basement area through airbnb. it is not known if the basement was rented out when mackenzie lueck, just 23 years old, disappeared without a trace ten days ago. there has been no word of an arrest, but police say they will have more to share at a press conference in the next few hours. >> benjamin: claudia, thank you. it has been a mystery. >> sandra: a denver man becoming the latest casualty of an illness in the dominican republic. his family in shock this morning after learning of his death. is there any connection to at least 12 other deaths of american tourists over the last year? >> benjamin: plus, president trump arriving in japan at the g20 summit.
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>> sandra: president trump arriving in osaka, japan, this morning for the g20 summit. all eyes will be on his meeting with president xi on saturday,
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aiming to make progress on trade. joining is now, larry kudlow, economic council director. larry, good morning to you. thank you for being here. there was a headline that china is insisting that the united states left the huawei ban. the chinese telecom giant, as part of the trade deal. it is not true? >> thank you, there are no preconditions. i don't know where that story came from. the two leaders are going to meet. they have not been discussed at all. we believe it's quite possible that if the meeting goes well. the chinese will come back to the negotiating table. we may be able to pick off where we left in may.
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it could be a good agreement. but no preconditions going into the meeting. >> sandra: not to nitpick there, larry, but words are so important, as you know. back to the negotiating table, we just heard from the president and that interview whether maria brought aroma, that meetings are active, are they not? >> they have been talking in recent days for sure. and in terms of the presidents interview with maria and also before, he said i think very clearly he would like to have a good meeting and going back to the discussions and negotiations, but it has to be a good meeting. he said that several times. also, i want to remind, and they
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have in recent weeks, he is perfectly happy of where the u.s. is in these discussions. we have tariffs, we are gaining revenues from the customs duties. our economy is doing very well. china is doing rather poorly. and we got revisions to the gdp report. still 3.1% overall, which is a great number. but business investment is taking up with intellectual property, which is hugely important. about 12% at an annual rate. i just want to get that out because capex is absolutely vital. i'm just saying we're in a good spot. that is what the president is saying. >> sandra: the explanation of a plan b by the president. with that interview with maria yesterday, i want to ask you are
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you somehow setting up the potential for an exit for this not getting done? it seems like you are tempering expectations. here is the president and that interview yesterday. speak out my plan b with china is to take in billions and billf dollars a month and do less and less business with them. we can just sort of say hey, whatever business is fine. when you're losing $500 billion a year, if you didn't do business with them, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. >> sandra: so what is he implying there? >> he is implying -- we may move ahead. we may move ahead additionally. >> sandra: the bottom line, nothing was agreed upon. >> i don't know -- let's see what happens.
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without speculating or forecasting, the president says we are in a good spot, and he is happy to -- if something good comes out of those talks, or if china were to offer us a good deal in the future, then we might be willing to change some of our views, but first let's have the talks. remember, sandra. hang on. very important. when the talks were interrupted last night, and we will continue to assist structural changes. >> sandra: there is no doubt. we don't know how this is going to end. let's just see what happens. >> sandra: i have five seconds left. do interest rates go down, stay the same, go up? >> market breadth have been falling for quite some time. and i think that's going to continue to be the case. and by the way, the stock market
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is roaring. that's a good sign from the economy. markets are saying to the fed lower your target rate, take away the hikes of last december. it's very clear. my message alone, the markets are telling us that. >> sandra: we are out of time. >> that is just my personal view. >> sandra: that sounds like a forecast. predicting an interest rate cut. larry kudlow. it is not fair or no? [laughs] >> i'm just following the markets. i'm not in a forecasting mode. >> sandra: it sounds like one. >> my view is in sync with the market via. >> sandra: got it. we will leave it there. larry kudlow. >> thanks, sandra. >> benjamin: two major rulings just handed down by the supreme court, the legality of the citizenship question on the senses, and how the court ruled
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and what it will mean for the future of american politics nex. >> sandra: plus, and other american tourist hasn't died in the dominican republic. what khalid adkin's family is saying about what happened to him. >> i just don't understand. i don't understand how i go from being able to talk to him, seeing him on his facebook, to some random person answering and telling me that he died. ng us more than student loans: credit card debt. sure, dad, call us irresponsible. we're only dealing with insane living costs and housing costs. it's just not right. but with a personal loan from sofi, you can consolidate your credit card debt into one monthly payment. and get your future right. get your money right with sofi.
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as well as the citizenship question in the 2020 census. for now, john roberts writing this on the senses western. "altogether, it tells us a story that does not answer. and the secretary's telling,
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congress is acting on a routine data request. the materials for us, that they went to great lengths to elicit a response from the doj or any other willing agency. tim o'brien, lethal crimes and landmark cases. thank you very much for being with us today. we just received these two decisions. let's start with the census one. some people would say that it is a bit of a blow to the trump administration. >> well, it certainly is a blow to the trump administration, specifically wilbur ross. they rejected his rationale for this census, on whether -- they argue that this was necessary to enforce the voting rights act. they found that this was more of the distraction. they just didn't buy it. she is justice roberts began his opinion by elaborating on all the questions that this case
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raised. what it be unconstitutional, per se, to add this language to the census? he said no. the question was whether the administration had followed proper procedures. he said well, the justice department sent a letter justifying the actions, and therefore, it would not violate the administrative procedures act. i personally thought that case was over at that point, then roberts went on to say however, what we hear is not what we see, and what we see is not what we get. this initiative began with wilbur ross, it had nothing to do with the voting rights act. it is a blow to the administration and to wilbur ross. >> benjamin: it was 9-02 send that back. he said "we do not hold the decision here as an invalid. the agency must pursue their goal reasonably. it calls for an explanation for agency action. what was provided here is more
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of a distraction." do you agree with that? >> i personally do agree with that, and i am surprised about this did not pick up more votes. you said as much on your broadcast when this case was argued. however, all five conservative appointees to the court seem to support the administration, including chief justice roberts. >> benjamin: we don't have much time. if we can move quickly onto the gerrymandering case, what is your opinion? justice kagan dissenting there. that will be thrown back to the courts. >> this is a huge decision, and in the long run, probably more important than the census case. "we know that they do so to serve themselves, to get reelected. does that make it unconstitutional?" and in what i thought was a very thoughtful opinion, she said we can't get into that. it's just too sticky. we don't know where to draw the rules. this is a political question, and of the states must decide
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that for themselves. a passionate dissent by justice kagan. >> benjamin: if this was a political decision, why did it take them so long to reach that decision? >> because it lingers around. it began almost ten years ago. that was one of chief justice roberts concerns. it takes forever. this case involved the 2010 census. legislating these, the plan takes a long time, and then it also takes a great deal of time, which is one of the reasons that chief justice roberts was cited for saying we can address it. >> benjamin: not enough time -- surely, both of these cases we will see again. thank you. >> sandra: iran issuing a new threat to the united states, promising to step up uranium production. how will that -- jack keane back
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investigator made a mistake while investigating the case. this is the direction of the trial. >> i told them weeks before the trial started the worst thing you can do for the reputation of the navy and the ncis is to give us two weeks on the world stage to expose every incompetent mistake, every bad move. >> sandra: a fox news is now learning prosecutors are warning they could charge another navy seal with perjury after his bombshell testimony that he was the one that killed the isis prisoner that eddie gallagher is accused of murdering. >> iran can do whatever they want. it's just fine. i have plenty of time, but they have a country that is an economic distress. it's an economic disaster right now. they could solve it quickly, or they could solve a ten years from now. whatever they want is fine with me. whatever they want. i have all the time in the world. >> benjamin: president trump
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hitting the ball into iran's court. the escalating tension. iran is poised to break terms of the 2015 nuclear agreement with other world powers. general jack keane, retired four-star general, fox news senior strategic analyst. general, thank you for being with us. so we heard that iran is set to break in the enrichment set by the jcpoa. there is a chance they might quickly go up to 20%. where should the line be drawn? >> first of all, it's another indication of how effective the u.s. sanctions are on iran. they are literally crying out desperately for some relief. they are really focused on the europeans here. what they want the europeans to do is provide them economic relief from the sanctions and return the threat of actually busting the threshold, as you indicated. they are reportedly saying we will go rapidly to 20%. that would largely be a redline
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for the israeli is from 20% to weaponization when not take that long. i really think the iranians are too smart for that, and we will try to avoid that kind of a clash. they will increase the threshold slightly and then go back to the europeans and say we are willing tto go back underneath this threshold. i think that is the hand they are likely to play. >> benjamin: the iranians are saying it is the u.s. who is provoking all the time. we had a tweet from the iranian foreign minister, saying that it endangers peace. sanctions are not an alternative to war. he says they are at war. obliteration equals equals war crime. he also said that it is an illusion. so war of words perhaps at the moment. when does that change? >> it is pretty outrageous that they would suggest that we are provoking this when we have
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clear evidence that they sabotaged six tankers. the evidence is indisputable. they also made an attack on a saudi pipeline. so they are the provocateurs here, as opposed to going back to the international community, saying that sanctions are unfair. let's see if we can negotiate -- what are they doing? they are pulling the trigger. so they are the provocateurs here, not the united states. >> benjamin: we heard from all of the democratic candidates of what they saw as a threat to the u.s. we saw a variety -- we have a montage of that here. let's take a look. >> while, the geopolitical challenges china. >> the biggest threat to the security of the united states is donald trump you'd >> we are at greater risk of nuclear war today than ever before in history. >> what is going on in the middle east with iran. >> our existential threat is climate change. >> climate change. >> china and climate change.
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>> china, without a question. >> russia, because they are trying to undermine our democracy. >> benjamin: oh wide range of issues. president trump is in japan at the g20, and those issues will be very high up on his agenda. what do you think is the principal threat? >> most foreign policy experts believe the return of big power competition with russia and china are the biggest threats. particularly with china. we are at economic war with them. theft of intellectual property. clearly, they are military buildup to dominate is really the number one long-term strategic threat to the united states. >> benjamin: they are building their own aircraft carriers, warplanes. when does that perhaps become a
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risk of military? >> it already is military. they want to have influence over the middle east. 80% of their oil comes through the middle east, and china's influence operates below the level of conflict has intimidated of course all of our allies. they have more influence there than they have ever had. their navy is larger than ours, and the rest of their military is rapidly expanding. >> benjamin: general, thank you very much. >> yeah, good talking to you. >> sandra: we are now learning that salt lake city police will be holding a news conference at the top of the hour. they will be giving an update of the case of mackenzie lueck. police, we know, have been searching the home close to where she was dropped off by the lyft driver. we may learn who or what exactly they have been looking for. >> we just don't want to make
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the new jersey police department and of former member of the joint terrorism task force. heather hansen, trial attorney. steve, with that resume, i will speak dumb acts go you first. tell us what we are learning. >> obviously, the police have enough evidence to charge him -- >> sandra: charge you? we will get to connecticut. at first, utah. >> they executed search warrants on the house, i believe there was something going on with regards to someone who smelled an order from that area, so they brought the dogs and, searching for forensics. i have to tell you, the issue and is what is on my mind, did she leave on her own volition? did she simply want to appear and not be bothered with anyone?
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>> sandra: considering they didn't know much about the car that she disappeared and -- they didn't know much about the description of the car, but they towed our car. does that tell us then that that's good ultimately be the person? >> they knew that she had been in the lyft, dropped off at that park, they have now combined all that information, narrowed in on that home, whether it is the airbnb or the people who own the home, we know now that they must have enough evidence to be announcing an arrest. we also know that there was some sort of fire that may have led to some dna evidence. first, i agree that i thought maybe she had disappeared. with respect to this fire, the investigators will be in much better shape. >> sandra: they are treating this with a high degree of care, given the nature of the case.
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we are also learning about some of her texting activity. she was texting with someone, they discovered, prior to her disappearance. they are not talking with that person come about that person is not considered a suspect. but the dating history has come into play here. >> yes, the timeline is very important. dating history is important because she could have had a lot of communication with a particular person or a couple people before she even took that trip to the funeral. but as heather said, the dna from the house or from that car is going to be a turning point in this investigation. >> it's going to be interesting to see what the dating history is. she had been on some of the dating apps, and we know that those can be less reliable than meeting someone face to face. it is going to be interesting to see if there is some sort of connection they are. >> sandra: we will see if we get an update on that at the top of the hour. moving on now, back to connecticut, new canaan connecticut, the attorney for
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fotis dulos made an interesting defense in his case, that possibly his wife, he is the husband of jennifer dulos, missing out for weeks, that possibly she disappeared and revenge of suicide plot, where somehow she framed him. he compared it to "gone girl." >> heather and i had this discussion earlier. it looks like he is trying to -- as you said, trying to influence the jury, bring reasonable doubt into the minds of the jury. the fact of the matter is that these two individuals are now charged with tampering with evidence. of the question is how much do the police have with regards to that tampering? they will have a very hard time connecting dots leading to charging them with murder or -- >> sandra: he made a very interesting point. they said the defense doesn't need to do this. he is not charged with murder, so why are they coming up with this theory? >> that's a great point.
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i do think that there is the concern that it is ultimately going to be a murder investigation. being the attorney for the defendant, he has so that he wants to push the case to trial in august, almost as if he is anticipating some other issues. we know that there is potential for that. with all the dna that was found in those trash bags that he and his girlfriend got rid of, that certainly starts to create, and i'm sure steve would agree, the beginning of a murder investigation. it's only the start now. last time i was here, we talked about the fact of the investigators are talking to the girlfriend and saying do you want to give us some information here that would lead to you having a better deal? >> somebody is going to flip. they are going to go after the girlfriend. >> sandra: you suggested the girlfriend. he is now asking to visit the girlfriend. >> did you see that she responded and said i don't want to see him? which again leads me to believe it -- that would make sense. >> sandra: so much we still
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president. >> plus, how the supreme court rulings could have a major impact on the 2020 race and well beyond, actually. >> and all eyes are on the market. i kind of feel like melissa. she is always watching that. and a president trump at the g20 summit, meeting with china's president to see about settling that tree disagreement that that they have going on. plus, who is in the center seat? you will just have to check it out. benjamin. >> benjamin: a former gynecologist at the university of southern california is charged with sexually assaulting 16 of his patience. this, more than a year after an "los angeles times" report reported that they had accused george tyndall of sexual misconduct during his tenure. >> the charges against him go back decades, allegations made by nearly 400 women. they took the strongest cases and charged him with 29 felonies
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all within a 10-year statute of limitations. >> we will not stay silent. the survivals of george tyndall are here to be sure that we receive the justice we deserve. >> the case here involves 16 courageous women whose allegations fall within the statutes of limitations, and whose accounts have been corroborated. >> police also obtained hard drives with inappropriate photos of patience and 1,000 videos described as homemade sex tapes. "after one year of being tried in the press, he looks forward to finally having this case adjudicated in the court of law." the charges include 18 counts of penetration of an unconscious person, battery for the purpose of arousal. they claimed that usc ignored numerous complaints against the gynecologist until a nurse,
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frustrated by university indifference, spoke up. still, usc kept silent, allowing him to leave with a payout and medical license. $215 million settlement with some former patients, facing additional suits in state court. >> we hope that the victims will have an opportunity to be heard in front of the jury. so that the facts behind dr. george tyndall's gross misconduct will be put before the public and justice will prevail. >> he faces 53 years in prison. >> benjamin: william, thank you very much. >> sandra: ten democratic hopeful squaring off last night in the first round of primary debates as we look forward to the second round. that happens tonight. the major takeaways last night and what to expect when everything unfoldsw tonight. ra. it lets you borrow up to 100 percent of your home's value.
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dispensers. the automated teller machine, or atm, remains popular today even in the united states. i think i might hit want to buy my lunch. how about you, benjamin? [laughs] >> benjamin: in britain, that's a perfect example. the only those. >> sandra: we will see you tomorrow, benjamin. "outnumbered" starts now. >> harris: this fox news alert as we are awaiting an update now from police on that missing utah college student, mackenzie lueck. she is 23 years old, a senior, and was last seen early on the morning of june 17th. police say she arrived at salt lake city international airport at around 1:30 in the morning, texted her mother, said she was landed safely, and was taken to a park by a lyft driver. that driver now cleared of anything. there was another car waiting, other person. we will bring you the latest from that news conference as soon as it starts. and this is developing at this hour, the supreme court has

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