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of national conversation through c-span's daily washington journal program or through our social media feed. c-span, created by america's cable television companies as a public service and brought to you today by your television rovider. president trump: this november we are going to take back the house and hold the senate and keep the white house. [applause] >> president trump return to the campaign trail saturday for a rally in tulsa. watch live coverage starting at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. on demand at c-span.org or listen on the go, with the free c-span radio app. announcer: president trump hosted a discussion on how to protect senior citizens during the coronavirus pandemic.
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he also answered questions on police reform and race relations. the police shooting of an unarmed black man in atlanta. ok. on the flight today. hi. ok, thank you very much. today is elder abuse awareness day. we are here to discuss our commitment to protecting and caring for america's seniors. we are joined by vice president mike pence, attorney general william barr, secretary of health and human services alex azar, secretary of housing and urban development, ben carson, who are the way, was fantastic over that weekend in various interviews you did, then, really good job, i appreciate it. secretary of veterans affairs, robert wilkie, administrator seema verma, chief postal
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inspector of the united states postal infection -- inspection service, gary barstow, and he has done a great job especially spotting drugs come into our country. my administration is working tirelessly to stop the depraved criminals who seek to defraud american seniors of which there are many but we are doing a very strong number on a lot of them. and nobody has ever done what we have done. three month ago we have launched the national elder fraud hotline , which has already received 1800 calls. in three years we have charged 1000 defendants involving $2.2 billion in fraud against our seniors and this afternoon the doj has announced a $2 million grant to help enforcement identify victims and bring lawbreakers to justice. these actions are one part of our unwavering devotion to our senior citizens. last month i announced a deal to ofsh out of pocket costs
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insulin and insulin is such a big deal, and such a big factor of importance for our senior citizens. we slashed costs for hundreds of thousands of medicare beneficiaries. impacted seniors will pay just $35 per month, an average saving of 6% to 100%. -- 60% to one had a percent. it was the biggest slashing of insulin and no one has ever done it before. where working on one and call it a trap you get a lot of traps to get putting your way so you cannot do these things but we did it and we think we are even going to be able to go further. so we have $35 a month. we vastly expanded medicare, telehealth services, that has gone up, probably more than any other thing. that is the only thing, probably the only thing you can to about covid, telehealth has been used at levels that nobody ever
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thought even possible and it has been fantastic. and i think a lot of people are going to continue to use it. premiumbasic part d dropped 13.5% and medicare advantage premiums have dropped 27 percent on average. foster was the first year where drug prices and 52 years, where drug prices have gone down. the cost of prescription drugs. we are strongly defending medicare and social security and we always well and will always protect our senior citizens and everybody against pre-existing conditions. my administration has also taken vital action to protect seniors in nursing homes. we delivered $81 million for increased inspections. we provided every medicare certified nursing home with shipments of personal protective equipment. very hard with the governors of the states on their nursing homes because obviously that was very sad
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situation what happened to some of the states where they did not do a good job with respect to nursing homes. they were caught unaware. there were caught unaware, unfortunately. so we are working hard with the governors and with everybody having to do with nursing homes because that is a vulnerability. it is a real soft spot. in terms of the covid or any of the 15 names you want to call it and there are plenty out there. all we know is it came from china, that is all we know. we now require nursing homes to report the coronavirus cases directly to cdc. residents and family members, all family members, we are working with extreme vigilance to protect nursing home residents from the virus. importanteen a very thing for us to be doing. everybody working with the governors on that. my administration will never waver in our relentless commitment to keep america's seniors safe. we have to keep all of our seniors safe.
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and this is a very perilous time. and i think we are going to be finishing up. i think we are going to -- mike has some very good numbers to tell you about having to do with the cases. again, our testing is so far advanced, it is so much bigger and better than any other country, that we will have more cases. we will have more cases. as i said this morning, that is probably the downside of having good cases as you find cases that other countries who do not test do not have. if you do not test you do not have any cases. if we stop testing that we would have very few cases if any. what we do. we are at a level that if mike is going to talk about it that is so high. cases would show more when other countries have far more cases than we do but they just don't talk about it. the testing on the other hand is very good because we find out where it is going, how it is going, who is going to, and we take care of it. so with that i will just say
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that we are fighting for america's seniors like noah administration has ever fought, we are doing a great job and bringing down costs and we have other things like transparency that are going to be coming online. in january or for bright. that will be an incredible thing. nobody thought we could get that approved. we think we will see numbers there that will be incredible. in terms of cost reduction for our seniors that is very good. mike pence, if you would. vp. pence: thank you, mr. president. it is a privilege to sit with you. and to reflect on this day in efforts to protect our seniors and make sure they are financially secure and also see to the health and well-being of senior citizens. for the time you tapped me to lead the white house coronavirus task force we knew that seniors with serious underlying health conditions represented the most vulnerable to serious outcomes from the coronavirus. it was the reason early on at
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your direction we raised the infectious disease standards at every nursing home in america and we deployed all 8000 of our inspectors across the country to focus exclusively on infectious diseases. and in addition to all of the measures you just reflected on, delivering personal protective equipment to the more than 15,000 nursing homes. and dramatically expanding telehealth. we have continued to work closely with governors to focus on long-term care and nursing homes and our seniors. people across the country have looked after family members who are senior citizens with honorable conditions and we urge them to continue to do that, even as we have made steady progress each and every day toward putting the coronavirus farther and farther in the past. mr. president there has been much reported in the news as he reflected about increased cases in some states and our team has
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been working with governors over the past week and we are carefully analyzing those new cases and we really believe that the vast majority of new cases is a reflection, as you said, of a dramatic increase in testing. governor newsom in california told me that on saturday alone, california performed 70,000 tests all across the state. 78,000 tests all across the state. in the state of california, their hospitalization never to remain flat. their positivity numbers remain flat. in the areas of just a few sais or c -- a few states where sweezy positivity rates go up, we will be talking to governors today in states like georgia and arizona and texas about deploying additional cbc personnel to help them identify where those outbreaks are cdc personnel to help them identify where those topics are occurring and how to mitigate those outbreaks.
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because of what the american people did to slow the spread, each and every day we are demonstrating that we can safely reopen. all 50 states and our territories are not reopening america again but as the theme of this conversation is, that is important that we continue to focus resources on those who are vulnerable even while we see overall across the country cases going down, hospitalizations going down and most importantly, our mortality rate is going down all across america. now we are going to continue to focus with our governors on making sure we deploy testing to our long-term care facilities and to our nursing homes. -- today, mr. president, to continue that effort, as we are going to put the interests of all america first, but as we move into this next stage and through the summer, putting the coronavirus in the past each and
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every day, we will focus on ensuring that our seniors and all of those most vulnerable are protected. pres. trump: thank you, mike, very much. great job. >> thank you for your commitment to protecting america's elder citizens. have made it combating fraud against elders one of the department's highest priorities, and that is partly because we have seen a skyrocketing of abuse against elders as we see a growing older population coupled with new technology, particularly the internet, which has given fraudsters new opportunities for their schemes, and it is a priority also, because the elder population are particularly vulnerable, because if they lose their savings, they do not have much time to regain their footing, so it is
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frequently a permanent loss for them. ad so we have appointed senior department official to be a full-time coordinator across the entire department. this has been going on for the last couple of years, and we our every single one of u.s. attorneys offices with a coordinator to focus exclusively on rooting out fraud against elders. senior citizens lose billions of dollars each year. is average for an individual $34,000 when they fall victim to a fraudulent scheme, and we have found that many of the perpetrators and, in fact, frequently the brains behind these schemes are actually outside of the united states and part of transnational criminal organizations. there are three things i would like to highlight today. thefirst, this month marks one-year anniversary of our
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transnational elder fraud strike force. we started seeing the signs of international organizations involved in this, and we decided we had to run up the chain and try to go to the source of this as well as combating it at a local level, and we set up this group to do that. and over the past year, we have made a lot of progress in dismantling the infrastructure of these organizations, much of it involving the use of fraudulent robo calling. in january, we brought landmark civil actions to shut down some of the largest carriers of fraudulent robo calls. in fact, we were able to shut down two of the five entities that were responsible for the robo calls in the united states. just one of these, to give you an example of the scale of these companies, carried 720 million during the period reaching every state in the union.
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after these cases, we saw a sharp decline in robo calls to consumers, so stopping this wave of robo calls by going after the international organizations is a key part of our strategy, and we are also getting some success. at the same time, we have cracked down on a network of financial operatives that are frequently called money mules, who take money from seniors and send it back to their bosses overseas. the postal service has been instrumental in this success, and the chief postal inspector, gary barksdale, is here to describe its efforts in more detail. we are proud of all the strikeforce has accomplished in the first year, but we are in a sense just getting started. have asked the fbi and every u.s. attorneys office to prioritize elder fraud cases, and each year for the past three years, we have had a sweep across the nation, targeting
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these fraudsters. this year, we indicted 400 fraudsters for causing over $1 billion in losses to elders. we are not letting up. fraudsters have gained new opportunities with been-19, so we have also bearing down on covid-19 fraud schemes. the third thing is, as the president mentioned, we set up a dedicated elder fraud hotline. a call fora 911 with elder fraud. it is staffed seven days a week, and we help victims when they call get the resources that they need to deal with the fraud. one of the things we found is our seniorntly, citizens are afraid to report or hesitant to report fraud, because they feel that they have failed, and they are embarrassed
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that they were taken advantage of, so everything we can do to encourage them to report is very important at getting after these criminals, and finally, as the president mentioned, we are making grants to the national white collar crime center, which will enable that group to work with local police departments, local law enforcement to develop training and tools to combat elder fraud, so this is the day-to-day work being done at the local level. you know, i was once used as a before they president appointed me as attorney general. my official government image from the last time i was attorney general was being used to attract elders to a website. if they sent money in, i would help them get grants, and i would get these very pathetic because of people into my office of people who have lost everything, and they would say, "i feel so stupid. you have lost everything," and
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they just did not know how to call, and i would call the sheriff, and he was not sure what to do. these are people frequently living in rural areas, and so at the local level, it is important to train local law enforcement as to how to respond to these kinds of sophisticated frauds from theseming in foreign organizations. so that, mr. president, thanks to convening this session keep america's seniors safe. pres. trump: thank you, bill. appreciate it. gary, go ahead. >> thank you, mr. president, mr. vice president. lead to be here to speak about what we're doing at the u.s. postal service to address transnational elder fraud. protecting our elders and our veterans is one of our highest priorities, especially now as we start to see fraudsters start to
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take advantage of the coronavirus to incorporate that into some of their schemes. as attorney general barr said, one of our methods is to attack the money mules. they get the money from the u.s. to their overseas accounts. victims typically send money andugh the mail, ups, sometimes they ask the victims to wire transfer the money, and oftentimes, we see them asked to buy gift cards and send them to money mules overseas, so we see that as a crucial link to disrupt with this type of fraud. we have had some significant enforcement efforts. i also have some prevention methods. is of our primary strategies we partner with the department of justice, as attorney general barr, mention, with the strikeforce, enabling postal inspectors and the department to work hand-in-hand with trial
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attorneys to bring some of these cases to justice. we have 17 field divisions with the u.s. attorney offices and their elder justice coordinators with the fraud investigations, and we have conducted significant enforcement actions this past year dealing with the money mules. just some of the stats, we have initiated this year over 100 investigations. these cases are associated with nearly $450 million in victim losses. 2000ve also served over money transmitter warning letters to suspects, and the department of justice issued over 30 civil injunctions. 17 arrests from these cases. we have also seen over six. also, the annual money mule initiative that we work in coronation with the fbi and the secret service, our financial partners, and in addition to the indictments he mentioned, law
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with 600nt worked money mules, so where we did not arrest, we sent them letters to put them on notice to stop today. another example of recent success is in november of this last year, with federal prison in order to pay over $500 500,000 dollars to lottery scam victims. we are also looking at service providers in helping to send victim funds overseas. the money gram. working with the department of justice, we received access to settlements worth well over $100 million. our goal here, mr. president, is to try to get some of the money back to the victims. working with the doj and our other partners, we have returned over on hundred $50 million to the victims, which was over 109 fraud victims.
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and prevent a crime before a crime occurs, we have put a lot of resources and with a platform on our website and printed material, social media, working with the department of justice. briefly,st mentioned and i would just mention, mr. president, we are also looking at others to do their part in preventing elderly fraud, and i'd like to thank you for providing awareness and making this one of the priorities of your administration. thank you. pres. trump: thank you. appreciate it. >> thank you, mr. president. this is an important meeting for us at v.a., but it comes on the heels of almost two years of constant reform that we have had at the department. we serve a unique population that has performed unique services to america, and i am happy to report to the president that our approval ratings at
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v.a. are almost 40 points higher than they were in 2014 and 2016. as a result of that -- pres. trump: that is a big difference. yes. wilkie: last year, we set a record number of internal appointments at the v.a., 59.9 million, an all-time high. the reason that is an importance is that so many veterans have trusted us with their lives and also with the well-being of their families. 134 nursing homes in the department of veterans affairs, 7500 patients. over half of those come from world war ii and korea. only fours we speak, of those 7,500 who have tested positive of the covid virus. one of the reasons those numbers are so low is a decision that the president made when we
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discussed what to do that first week of march. we had to make a drastic decision to cut off these deserving veterans, primarily from korea and world war ii, the sustenance of their families in order to protect them. we tested them. we tested our employees, and we were able to cut them off from the worst effects of this virus, but in addition to those preventive measures, we were able to produce for the entire onntry on march 17 guidance how to protect america's most vulnerable citizens. but that is only part of what the president has entrusted us with doing. i am the son of a grievously wounded combat soldier from vietnam. the president gave me instructions to make sure that the last of the service members left over from that conflict, and we will finally start providing sustenance, financial
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and material, to the families of those veterans from vietnam who care for those veterans, so all of the mistakes made 50, 40 years ago, we will finally rectify. is last thing i will say that v.a. has reached a milestone, not only in terms of trust but also in providing the country with a substance -- with assistance in terms of helping our most vulnerable citizens. as we speak, we are in 48 states right now in hundreds of nursing homes, providing nurses, gerontologists. we have taken over the management of several state veterans homes in order to protect our most vulnerable veterans, and we have done it with our employees who have gone into harm's way without any question when it comes to their own safety, helping the most deserving of americans, and to
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finally say on numbers, we serve 9.5 million veterans at v.a. we have 14,000 veterans who have come down with the virus, but of those 14,000, almost 12,000 are fully recovered, and in our nursing homes, again, 7500, only four tested positive of the virus. i cannot think the president for his support. i cannot think our employees at v.a. for their heroic action. we are on the front lines when it comes to bolstering the lives of the most deserving americans, those who have carried our freedom on their shoulder. mr. president, i thank you for everything you have done. pres. trump: thank you very much. appreciate it. >> mr. president, thank you for what you have done throughout your administration to protect older americans and to help them live healthy lives. before the covid-19 pandemic struck, your administration
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already put an emphasis on keeping americans safe, that has continued during the pandemic. during this crisis, thanks to new funding, hhs's for community living has pushed out more than $1 billion for services for our older americans that they need to stay comfortably in their homes. that is more than a 50% boost in the annual support that we provide for community organizations who provide services like delivered meals, help with trips to the grocery store, to the doctor, and assistance with chores at home. we are also making it a top priority to protect older americans from a public health perspective. we have required states to put a significant emphasis on older americans and nursing homes and all of their covid night and work, and with the testing plans they have submitted, and we are working very closely with the states to make sure that is the case. we have deployed cdc experts and members of the health commission
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core to help respond and prevent outbreaks at our nursing homes. that isolation due to extended stay-at-home orders can make some older americans more susceptible to the types of abuse and financial exploitation that we are talking about today. this past week, we address the topic as part of the elder justice coordinating council, which i chair as hhs secretary price last week, we added the department of homeland security as the 15th member agency, reflecting the president's commitment to protecting our seniors from abuse. in 2018, we made a focused effort to expand the work of the group and dedicate funding to prevent and fight abuse of older americans with the opioid crisis. through the work of agencies across the trump administration, we have made great progress in strengthening and improving our federal response to older americans with treatment in recent years. under president trump in 2018, all 50 states began to sip and
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for the first time in the national adult maltreatment reporting system, which produces data that is widely acknowledged to drive action and implement reforms. in march, when the justice department announced its national nursing home initiative, attorney general barr with secretary lance robinson worked to protect older americans during the covid 19 crisis despite the additional challenges. for instance, we support state who-term care ombudsmen, help older americans at nursing homes and assisted living facilities, resulting in 138 thousand issues just last year. they have been adding virtual walk-throughs, where nursing home staff walked through room to room throughout the facility with a tablet and allow residents the opportunity to meet virtually with their ombudsman. finally, want to emphasize the overall success we have seen with increased access and lower
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cost for older americans who need prescription drugs. according to data from the bureau of statistics, it has been flat since president trump announced his drug pricing blueprint from june 2018 until april 2020 after averaging 4% growth per year for the previous five years. that is a tribute to efforts across the administration, including record-breaking generic drug approvals in each of the last three years at fda. lower prescription drug costs, more support for older americans in the community, better protection in nursing homes and assisted living facilities. all of these steps mean more healthy, prosperous years for older americans to spend with their loved ones, and that is what president trump has promised americans, and that is what he has delivered. pres. trump: thank you, alex. good job. ben? secretary carson: thank you, mr. president, for all you have been doing for getting our country back on track, and america owes
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a lot to our seniors. they are the ones who looked this country up and are the ones to make this a destination for people around the world. they are wonderful fountains of knowledge that live among us, and i am proud to be part of an administration that really values our elderly citizens. mr. president, you promised not to forget the forgotten men and women of our nation, putting special emphasis on them, and that has been the case with a lot of the elderly over the course of time, and at hud, our housing choice voucher program provides rental subsidies for 4.7 million families, low income families, including elderly and disabled, who make up more than 50% of the voucher holders. the cares act has provided an additional $3 billion to this program so that we can assure
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any senior who needs help that they will us even assistance. section 202 prioritizes elderly and housing, providing low income elders with options which allow them to continue to live independently. supportive services, such as cooking and cleaning, transportation. all of these things, we are making sure to provide quality of life for these individuals. milliont provided $50 in additional funding for this program to cover a lot of the expenses that were unforeseen before the covid 19 crisis hit. 's other programs include home equity conversion mortgage program, which over the last three years has undergone
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substantial improvement, particularly under the guidance of our now deputy secretary montgomery. and this really allows seniors to age in place and utilize the equity that they have accumulated over the years, and since the inception, fha has assured -- insured more than one million reverse mortgages. our public housing authorities assist our low income americans, including seniors, in finding quality, affordable housing. hud also has a portfolio of hospitals that we ensure that, obviously, provide significant services to seniors across the country. those are just a few of the efforts that we have taken to help those who have given so much over the years to this nation. as a compassionate society, we have an obligation to take care ,f the most vulnerable citizens
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and they are also very valuable citizens. without them, this nation would not be where it is today, and i am proud to work alongside you, mr. president, and the others sitting here and this whole administration, which really ,oes value our senior citizens and we are grateful for the wisdom that our seniors share with us every day. thank you very, very much. pres. trump: excellent. day one, the president has made his commitment to the medicare program absolutely clear, and like few presidents before him, he has always understood the pressing need to modernize the program and also make it more affordable to seniors. he just talked about how premiums are lower in the medicare advantage program, at a 13-year low, and the part d program for prescription drug coverage, that is at a seven-year low, which is putting
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money back in the pockets of our seniors. talking about not only lowering prices, we are also adding more benefits to our medicare advantage plans. we changed the regulations to give our plans more flexibility to provide services that will keep seniors in their homes and more independent and healthy, so that could be something like just putting a handlebar in their home help them get up the stairs. it could be meal services after surgery. it could be pest eradication services, but giving our seniors more services at a lower cost. you also heard the president talk about the program of $35 for insulin going forward. i had the opportunity to travel with the vice president last week, and we ran into a gentleman at dave's diner in pennsylvania, and he came to us and showed us his insulin and said to us, "i need this for my survival," and because of the president's leadership, he said, "i am going to save $5,000 a
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year," and he was really excited, and i think that helps to show what our president has done for seniors. it goes beyond the medicare program, and we are working to make sure our seniors are safe in nursing homes. because of the president early actions nursing homes in terms of restricting visitors and also making sure that our nursing homes were supported with recommendations around infection control, 80% of our nursing homes across the country have actually done pretty well. get they have not seen any cases of coronavirus or any deaths. that being said, we are focused on the 20% of nursing homes. we have been working with governors, asking them to test nursing home residents and their staff and to do that routinely so we can assure that our nursing home residents are safe, and we are encouraging governors to go out to these nursing homes and perform inspections, boots on the ground, so we can assure those nursing homes are taking the proper precautions. and then finally, the president
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has also convened a commission on coronavirus or nursing homes to assure that we are delivering quality and safety to our nursing home residents, so thank you, mr. president, for your leadership. pres. trump: thank you, very much. great job. please. heard yousident, we many times four or five years ago saying if we do not take care of our veterans, if we do not take care of our seniors, who are we as a nation? you have many times protected their entire meant -- their entitlement, but they are also entitled to dignity, to safety, to the presence of mind and the peace of mind of knowing that their financial assets are protected from money meals and from those who would lure and lurk among them. all of the great work that has been done and try to solve this while a global pandemic has also left our seniors vulnerable. they are away from family members. many of them are in their homes,
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taking advantage of the great work that our health and economic teams have been doing for them and our justice teams, also bigger, brighter pray for many of these predators, and so we want to make sure that the physical abuse we saw in videotape a couple of weeks ago of a person or persons being abused in a n erranthome by a individual, criminal individual, to shine a light on that, but also, the financial crimes are very serious, so thank you for what you're doing in that regard. by the has been said augustine members around the members around the table. i know many of you do not like being told that you are guilty notiased coverage, but do be guilty of incomplete coverage. today is world elder abuse day. there is a board behind me and one over there. moment, you decide
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what message to tweet, what story to tell. please include this in your recording. it is important. it is world elder abuse day for a reason, and you can help us. be a resource. help seniors by letting them know there are tools at their disposal, and we are here to help solve these problems. thank you. pres. trump: thank you very much. good job. so we are taking care of our senior citizens better than ever before. there has never been this much effort, never this much money spent. we are taking good care of them, and thank you all, very much. thank you. your executive order tomorrow, can you tell us the broad brush strokes on police use of force reform as well as enhancing opportunities across the country? pres. trump: we will basically be talking about things we have been watching and seeing for the
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last month, and we are going to have some solutions, i think some good solutions, and some of it, you know, it is about great people. we need great people in our police departments, and we have mostly great people. i would say that. i would say with certainty, we have mostly great people. but we will do better, even better, and we are going to try to do it fast, so we're going to have a meeting tomorrow. we are going to have a news conference tomorrow. we have a lot of news coverage coming in and others, and they have seen what we are doing. i have asked for suggestions from different groups, particularly the sheriff's -- sheriffs, and i have said it to the attorney general. bill? i think it is pretty comprehensive. as you know, the congress and house are working on it. groups in the house, the
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democrats and republicans, they are each working on it, and we will get it done, and we can add weo what is being done, if think it is appropriate. maybe they can get something passed. we will get something passed, and it has to be passed by one person, and that person is me, so we are going to be sunning it tomorrow, and we will have a news conference at some point in the day. it may be in front of the wine has or a different location, as you know, the steps, and we will see you tomorrow. the overall goal of the executive order of these reforms? pres. trump: the overall goal is we want law in order, and we want it done fairly, justly, and we wanted done safely, but we want law & order. itis about justice also, and is about safety, so i think we are going to do a good job tomorrow. i think you're going to see some
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things that a lot of people did not think would happen. again, i want to emphasize it is possible the house could also on top of this -- i spoke to the various leaders -- on top of this can get something area but i think this will be very comprehensive tomorrow, so you will see. yes, please. >> the video -- pres. trump: i thought it was terrible -- i am not going to compare things, but i thought it was a terrible situation. i studied it closely. i will get some reports stunted today, and toone me, it was very disturbing. go ahead. >> the supreme court decision earlier today about lgbtq being protected. pres. trump: well, they ruled and wrote the decision, and some people were surprised, but they ruled, and we live with their decision. that is what it is all about.
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we live with the decision of the supreme court, very powerful, a very powerful decision, actually, but if they have so ruled -- is this the day to withdraw recommendations by the fda, saying hydroxychloroquine is no longer useful? pres. trump: maybe alex would like to address that? thinkary azar: i do not your question was accurate about what the fda did. there is an agency within hhs. they withdrew an emergency use authorization for a product that we had acquired into the national stockpile from bayer, the maker of hydroxychloroquine, manufactured in pakistan, and the emergency use authorization, hospitalrestricted for use, inpatient hospital use, of
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the product. with the fda finding they do not see enough support for hospital-based use for those extreme cases of patients hospitalized. they took that restriction off. they took the emergency use authorization off. at this point, hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine are just like any other drug in the united states. they may be used in hospital, outpatient, at-home, also through a doctor's prescription. in fact, the fda removal of the emergency use authorization takes away what had been a significant misunderstanding by many that made people think it could only be used in a hospital setting, and we tried to make that clear throughout. it is a drug that is approved in the united states and has been for decades. if a doctor wishes to prescribe it working with a patient, they may prescribe it for any issue that they choose to do so, and this removes a barrier. pres. trump: so this
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uncomplicated's it. the question was a very inaccurately stated question. >> no longer considered an important treatment, only in -- secretarye data -- azar: that data is not yet in. >> the data in a hospital setting? ar: the fda looked at it and removed the emergency authorization for hydroxychloroquine, >> mr. president, you tweeted earlier today that you believe you were being covid shamed because of going ahead with the tulsa rally. the director of the health department in the county and the city is encouraging you to postpone that. saying they still think they have got too big of a problem for you to pull that out. your thoughts?
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pres. trump: oklahoma, i just spoke to the governor. he is excited about it. he has done a terrific job. mike, maybe you can't speak to this. oklahoma has had a very low number. they have done fantastic work. they have great, pretty new, magnificent -- an arena, as you probably have heard. i think we are getting the exact numbers out, but we are even close to over one million people wanting to go. arena, but2,000 seat i think we are also going to take the convention hall next door. that will hold 40,000, so 22,000 and hopefully they will be watching. it is amazing. nobody has ever heard of numbers like this. i think we are going to have a great time. we are going to talk about our nation, where we are going, where we have come from, and i can tell you on covid or
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coronavirus or whatever you want to call it, plenty of names, tremendous progress is being made. i spoke with the governor of texas, where they have done a fantastic job, and they said they have had some outbreaks in prisons, and that is why their numbers went up, in the numbers change a little bit because of the prison population, but he has got it in great shape, texas. florida is doing very well. georgia is doing very well. we have tremendous numbers. we have hotspots, as i said, and we take care of the hotspots, but many of the governors have done a good job. some not as good as others, some very good. oklahoma has been a good place that i think one of the reasons we chose it is because of how early,ecause it is very because of what a great job the governor and everybody else has done in oklahoma, and we expect to have like a record-setting crowd. we have never had an empty seat,
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and we certainly will not in oklahoma. tell howyou want to well oklahoma has done? vice pres. pence: yes, speaking to governor kevin stitt in the last several days and even earlier today, and oklahoma has really been at the forefront of ,ur efforts to slow the spread and in a very real sense, they flattened the curve, and today, there hospital capacity is abundant. the number of cases in oklahoma has declined precipitously, and we feel very confident going forward with the rally this coming weekend. we are working closely with the governor. we will have measures in place and will be screening people coming into the facilities, but oklahoma has really led the way in demonstrating we can safely reopen, and so as we gather to
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hear from the president and to hear about the stakes of the selection, we will also be celebrating a state that has demonstrated every day that you can put health first and open up and do all of those things at the same time. pres. trump: and, mike, you gave me a number of registration. overall, how are we doing? vice pres. pence: well, it is really remarkable, mr. president, with over 22 million tests across the country, we continue to see overall what is called the positive test rate remains very stable in the country. as we said earlier, mr. president, there is a few states where the positivity rate is climbing, and we are working very closely with those governors to identify that. you mentioned in the state of texas, there was one county where there were literally three prisons that had individual outbreaks that accounted for literally hundreds of new cases in a single day. we are also seeing in imperial
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county, california, people who, americans who, may live on the opposite side of the border on mexico -- in mexico coming home, and that is showing up in some of their numbers. but overall, the american people, i think, are to be commended, mr. president, because of the steps they have taken and continue to take. we are demonstrating that we can safely reopen, and where we saw coronavirus positive cases six weeks ago, over 30,000, now it has average in recent weeks roughly 20,000 new cases a day. ratesaid, the positivity remains flat. hospitalizations for coronavirus are declining all over the country, and most importantly, our fatality rate continues over a seven-day average to continue to decline. the president is always quick to say a loss of one life is always
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too many, but when we think about the matter of a month and a half ago, when we were losing 2500 americans a day, now that we see the numbers declining so precipitously, i think it is a real tribute to our health care workers, a tribute to every american that has demonstrated each and every day that we can reopen our country, but we can continue to put health, particularly of our most vulnerable, first. pres. trump: and yesterday's number was approximately what? vice pres. pence: according to some public reporting, i will have more details this afternoon, less than 400 fatalities yesterday all across the country. pres. trump: so that is a far cry from what it was a month ago or two months ago. china should not have let it happen, but it happened. all over the world, it has happened, which is a very sad thing, but our numbers are at a
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low watermark, and it is getting better. it will end up being god. we are making good headway with respect to vaccines, making good headway therapeutically and a cure wise. a really, really tremendous headway. i have seen the results. i have met with some of the people who do the work, smart people, people who have succeeded before, and vaccines are coming along far in advance of what they thought there would be, and i think we will have very good news for you on vaccines and therapeutics and cures, frankly, because if you look at therapeutics, they are the next best. i think we are going to have some very good news on that, but we are at a low mark, and some of those, like in texas, where you had a prison population that went heavy, and now it is understand thewe
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disease. we have learned. i was with the governor of new jersey the other night, and we had a great talk about economic development, and we are going to be doing a big bridge that they have been looking for i guess, he said, since 1918, they have been looking to redo it, so that is a long time, and we have agreed to do that, about $900 million. 2500 deathsentioned or 12,500 deaths. deaths, and out of that, there was one death under 18. i said, "say it again," so it was over 12,000, and i think the exact number was 12,500, and they did the study from that point, and out of that, one death was under the age of 18, which is pretty amazing. i knew it was -- which tells me the schools are hopefully going to be back in the fall.
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they will be back in full blast, but the young people have very strong immune systems. i imagine that is the reason. but they have come out of this at a level that is really inconceivable. by the way, the regular flu, the h1n1, if youars, look at the young people, they were affected like everyone else, but for some reason, with respect to covid, the numbers are very, very low. yes? >> with you and other countries -- pres. trump: yes, he has asked for it, and we are sending it. i cannot complain about it. i took it for two weeks, and here we are. we have had some great studies. i did not know about the report that jeff asked about, but we have had some great reports coming out of france, coming out of spain, coming out of other places. the only place we do not get
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necessary reports are coming out of alex's agency or where they come from. i do not understand it, alex. thate heard so many people were so thrilled with the results from hydroxy, so what is that, exactly? we continue to study especially an earlier phase, so a lot of the data that came out that was more negative was people who were quite ill, in the hospital. pres. trump: people who were seriously ill, like they were not going to make it. "let's give them the hydroxy," and then they do not make it, and then, "the president was wrong," and all i know is that we have had tremendous reports. one woman, a representative from detroit, she was fantastic. there are many people like that that say the same thing, so i don't know.
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i took it, and i felt good about taking it. i do not know if it had an impact, but it certainly did not hurt me. i feel good. >> mr. president? pres. trump: yes. >> republicans, are they asking you to reverse the decision on terminating the relationship? would you consider that? pres. trump: i don't know. i will have to see what they are asking. i have no idea what they are asking. i have no idea what they are asking. i will take a look at it. the world health organization has been very disappointing to the world, they have been disappointed. we paid, as you know, paid close to $500 million in some years, but for years and years, we paid far more than anybody else, and they have been a puppet of china , so, no, i am not reconsidering unless they get their act together. i am not sure they can at this point, but maybe, certainly over the years, they might, but they
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have been a disaster. they were wrong on every call, including when i said i was going to close up the united states from people coming in from china, when china was heavily infected at that time and possibly still is, and i closed it, and it was a wise decision. there were a lot of people, even on the other side, the enemies -- we call it the enemy, who said it was a wise decision. "i do not know how trump made that decision," but we save thousands, hundreds of thousands. go ahead. president -- pres. trump: i will have to ask the attorney general, but if he is doing a book, i think it is totally inappropriate for him to do a book. i gave him a break. he could not get senate confirmed. i do not think he is supposed to be calling himself an ambassador, because he could not get senate confirmed. he was therefore a fairly short period of time. i put him here because he could
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not get senate confirmed. this was a non-senate confirmed position, as you know. he stayed for a short while, and i felt that it was not appropriate that he stayed any longer. i was not impressed. and somebody said he went out and wrote a book. he wrote a book, i cannot imagine that he can, because that is highly classified information. even conversations with me are highly classified. i told that to the attorney general before. i consider any conversation with me as president as highly classified, and that would mean if he has written a book, if you wrote a book, he has broken the law, and i would think he has criminal problems per they put a sailor in jet because he had a photograph of an engine of an old submarine, and this guy is writing things about conversations or about anything, and maybe he is not telling the truth. he has been known not to tell the truth, a lot. so we will have to see what the
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book is about, but a lot of people are upset with him for writing a book. a lot of people are angry at him for writing a book, but it is up to the attorney general. bill, do you have anything to say about it? barr: peopleral who come to work in the government generally sign an agreement that says when they leave government, if they write something that draws on or might reflect some of the information they have had access to, they have to go through a clearance process before they can publish the book, and we do not believe that bolton went through that process, has not completed the process, and therefore is in violation of that agreement. pres. trump: that is criminal liability, by the way, you're talking about. it is not like he has to return $3.00 that he made on a book. that is called criminal liability. that is a big thing.
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larry clinton deleted 33,000 emails, and if we ever found out what those email say, you would have liability. that is what you have, a liability. >> can you say what the doj is doing question mark attorney general barr: a number of things, but front and center right now is trying to get him to complete the process, go through the process and make the necessary deletions of classified information. >> it has been published. it has just not been released yet. attorney general barr: according haservices -- sources, it not. what we're doing is trying to get him to complete the clearance process that is required. >> he thought they had not completed the process, and changes after that -- attorney general barr: he has not completed the process. pres. trump: he never completed
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the process. he knew that. attorney general barr: i do not know of any book that has been published so quickly while the officeholders are still in government, and it is about current leaders and current discussions of current policy issues, many of which are inherently classified. have not read it. i have not seen it. and he knows, and he was advised not to write it, and he was advised very strongly not to write it until it was cleared, and he could not wait, and we will see what happens, but i think he has got -- personally, i imagine he has got -- like when you do classified, that, to me, is a very strong criminal problem, and he knows he has got classified information. any conversation with me is classified. it becomes even worse if he lies about the conversation, which i understand he might have in some cases, so we will see what
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happens. they are in court or will soon be in court, but he understands he did not complete a process or anywhere near complete a process. bit of criticism from congressional republicans, including from representative cheney, about withdrawing troops from germany. are you reconsidering that at all? pres. trump: so we have 52,000 soldiers in germany. that is a tremendous amount of soldiers at tremendous cost to the united states, and germany, as you know, is very delinquent , andeir payments to nato they are paying 1%, and it is supposed to be 2%, and 2% is very low. it should be much more than that, so they are delinquent of billions of dollars. this is for years, delinquent.
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so we are removing the number down -- we are putting the number down to 25,000, so we will see what happens, but germany has not been making payment. in addition to that, i was the one who brought that up, everyone talks about trump with russia, but i was saying why are they paying russia billions of then wefor energy, and are protecting them from russia? it does not work. germany is delinquent, and they have been to liquid for years, and they owe nato billions of dollars, so we are protecting germany and they are delinquent. that does not make sense. i said we would bring down our soldier count to 25,000 soldiers. it varies. it is around 52,000 now. it varies, but it is a lot. well-paidw, those are soldiers. they live in germany. they spent vast amounts of money in germany. everywhere around those bases is very prosperous for germany, so germany takes, and on top of it, they treat us very badly on trade. we have trade with the eu, germany being the biggest
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member, very, very badly on trade. we are negotiating with them, but right now, i am not satisfied with the deal they want to make. they have cost united states hundreds of billions of dollars on trade. we get hurt on trade, and we get hurt on nato. now, with nato, i have raised payingllion, they are 140 billion dollars more because i interceded. i said, we are protecting you. have to pay your bills. it was going like this, and now, it is going like a rocketship. one of the only countries who has not paid what they agreed is germany, so i set until we pay, we are removing our soldiers, a number of our soldiers, by about half, and when we get down to 25,000, we will see where we are going, but germany is delinquent, and why should we be doing what we are doing if they do not pay, and they are supposed to be paying, and the number they are paying, the 2%,
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actually the 2% should be higher. a newars, this is not phenomenon. this has been going on for many years where they are taking advantage of the united states, but everybody has. under buying, and under obama, what they have done to this country is unbelievable, and i am not talking about only germany. i am talking about plenty of countries, but they are paying $140 million more. if you look at the secretary-general, who is terrific, stoltenberg, he is terrific. he said nobody else could have done what trump did, because i raised the other countries by $140 billion, because we had to pay the difference. the united states pays the difference to protect europe, so we protect them, and then they take advantage of us on trade, for many years, less so now, but for many years. so we are working on a deal with them, but it is very unfair, and i would say by far the worst
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abuser is germany. president, he said last week on seattle if the mayor of seattle, the governor of washington, did not take steps to end the occupation of the capitol hill neighborhood, you would step in, and you would do something. they still have not ended and are negotiating. are you considering action? pres. trump: negotiating garbage removal. they have taken over a very good part of a place called seattle. seattle is big stuff. that is a major city. and we have a governor who is a stiff, and we have a mayor who said, "oh, this is going to be a lovefest," and by the way, the people took it over, these are not nice people. i saw on your network today, john, i saw what went on with the hitting and the punching and the beating and all of the other things going on in seattle, and you have a governor does not do youmn thing about it, and have a mayor who does not know
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she is alive, talking about it being a lovefest this summer. they do not do the job, i will do the job, and i have already spoken to the attorney general about it, but if they do not do the job, we will do the job. any of 10 things, any of which would solve the problem quickly. we can go through any list and do a lot of things. i think it is incredible, also, that the radical left press does not cover it. they are acting like nothing happened. you turn on the news, you look at the news, you do not even see stories about it. a the right ever took over city, conservative republicans took over a city, it would be the biggest story in history. you cannot even find stories about seattle. it is incredible. willhave taken over -- we see. i tell you what. the american public is very angered by that. seattle is a very major, important city, and the
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democrats -- i guess you say radical left, but it is not even radical left. it is just democrat. where we have a problem is democrat-run cities. if you look at minneapolis, if you look at other cities who have had trouble, democrat in virtually every case i can think of. i cannot think of any other case with these are democrat-run cities. minneapolis, where the police are told to run, run for your lives. do not do anything. and if i did not get involved and send in the national guard, and it was at my insistence that we did that, and as soon as i did that, everything stopped in minneapolis, four or five days later. the timeline, we are watching it very closely. these are violent people that are dealing violently, and i think what i would like to see before we do something, i would like to see the press go in and cover it, because it is not that they are covering it badly. they are hardly covering it at all. the group and teeth and others,
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radical left, -- the group antif a and others, radical left, they took over a big percentage of the city, and the press does not want to cover it. we have a mayor who is scared stiff. she does not know what is happening. we have a governor who ran for president and got less than 1%. he actually, probably -- i would have said less than zero, but i do not know that is possible. he got nothing, no votes. the guy was out there fighting. at the end, he got zero, right? so he failed. and now, he goes back, and they take over his city, and he does not say anything about it. worse, a day later, he said, "i do not hear anything about it." they took over his city, seattle, and he said, "i have not heard anything about it." having to call it the national guard, having to do something,
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because the problem of what happened in seattle is it spreads, and all of a sudden, they say, "let's do another city, and let's do another one," and timing wise, we are all set to go. we are watching the presses. but the most amazing thing about the press is how the fake news media does not want to cover it. to me, that is the most amazing thing. thank you all. saturday night will be a big night. it is a big night. i hope you all are going to be there. it is going to be very big. thank you. >> s go. thank you. over here, let's go. >> goodbye. ♪ >> c-span's washington journal, everyday we are taking your calls live on the air on the news of the day and we discussed
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