tv U.S. House of Representatives Debate on 2 Trillion Economic Aid CSPAN March 29, 2020 1:01pm-2:19pm EDT
you cannot have a child. it makes no sense to me. but those are the main discussions. i have to go. thank you. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2020] >> the coronavirus task force holds a briefing today with president trump and vice president pence, updating the response to the pandemic. our live coverage begins at 5:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span. >> if you missed any of our live coverage of the government's response to the coronavirus outbreak, watch at any time at c-span.org, from daily briefings by the president in the white house task force to updates to the hardest hit states. use the charts and maps to track the spread and confirmed cases
in the u.s. county by county. our webpages are fast and easy way to watch c-span's unfiltered coverage of this pandemic. >> on friday, the house debated the coronavirus, including direct cash payments to individuals. to small businesses, targeted lending to industries impacted by the pandemic, and funded debt funding for hospitals. here is the final hour of the debate prior to the vote. >> the gentleman from georgia is recognized for one minute. >> our country finds ourselves in uncharted waters. for the past two weeks, i have been at home in the first district of georgia visiting with individuals with small business owners. i have seen people who are concerned. concerned about their health in their future.
this is something we have to address. i have also seen something i have never seen before, people pulling together, people doing for each other and caring for each other, volunteering at food volunteering and service organizations. i have seen the best of america as well. -- our responsibility to help people deliver for them. this is not a perfect bill. i would change a number of things in it if i have the opportunity. more than anything, what we need to do is we need to pray. >> time is up. the gentleman from maryland is recognized. >> i yield 30 seconds. the gentleman from michigan, dan kildee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from michigan is 30 seconds.or mr. kildee: thank you, mr. speaker.
i thank the gentleman for yielding. this is an important moment for our country, it's important that congress respond in a way consistent with this threat. we differences about this bill. there are things in it many of us don't like. this moves us forward. this gives the american people the support they need in order to follow the medical advice they are given without putting their families at risk. it supports small businesses, it puts money in the hands of americans, so that they can take care of their families financially while they're taking care of the health of their families. i support this legislation. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is is recognized. mr. brady: mr. speaker, i'm proud to yield one minute to the gentleman from michigan, general bergman. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. bergman: i rise in support of the coronavirus aid relief and economic security act. this legislation takes major steps to support american workers and families during this unprecedented time. it provides increased funding to
get our health care workers essential supplies and equipment. it also helps small businesses who have been asked to close their doors an sacrifice their livelihoods for everyone's health and safety. this bill is not perfect. i'm disappointed that we're paying for things that don't have anything to do with covid-19. and i am concerned about inadvertent damage we may be doing to our seasonal businesses by incentivizes people to stay at home rather than go back to work once shelter in place restrictions are lifted. small seasonal businesses are the lifeblood of michigan's first district an as we implement this policy i'll do everything i can to prevent unintended consequences from happening. the people of michigan's first district are resilient. we have survived hardships before and we will again. i urge my colleagues to support this bill and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yield back. the gentleman from texas reserves. the gentleman from maryland is recognized. mr. hoyer: i yield 30 seconds to the gentlelady from new hampshire, ms. kuster. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized for 30
seconds. ms. tufter: i rise to support this un-- ms. kuster: i rise to support thun precedented emergency relief for the american people my colleague and i have spoken with tens of thousands of our constituents through telephone town halls and conference calls with hospitals. i want to support the support for our people who have lost their jobs, for our small miss, but most importantly, for our frontline health care workers in our rural hospitals. we need supplies. we need support. thank you for vetting yes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman's time has expired. the gentleman from texas. mr. brady: pleased to yield one minute to the gentleman from texas, mr. crenshaw. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized for one minute. mr. crenshaw: businesses large and small through no fault of their own are failing. we told them to shut down and workers are losing their jobs. let me clear something up for everyone. a lost job is a lost job.
whether from a large business or a small business. and it's devastating for families. americans need help. thankfully this bill covers it all from direct aid to accelerated loans. but when every day counts in a crisis this bill was delayed by democrats unnecessarily for totally unrelated progressive wish list. i don't get mad but this made me mad. in the end, the final bill today is barely different than last weekend's. the record will show that. but we have it now and we should pass it now. it will soften the upcoming hardship but we must not be complacent for we have more difficult decisions ahead how much will we balance the opening of society with the pandemic. it's a tough question and we won't be able to answer that question if the antics of this week continue. the country will move forward together -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from maryland is ecognized.
mr. hoyer: mr. speaker, i now yield 30 seconds to the distinguished gentleman from new york, mr. meeks. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for 30 seconds. mr. meeks: my home state of new york has become the ep center of the terrible pandemic. this bill brings financial support to increase the number of hospital beds, equip our brave doctors, nurses, e.m.t.'s and other medical providers who are our frontline of defense and who should not be asked to risk their lives to save others. this crisis will pass. our economy will recover but american tam liss an workers who ost their jobs by the millions desperately need this financial support now. this bill provides important grants an loans to small business which is will be critical to our economic recovery. there's more for us to do but this bill is an important first step to secure america's families. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expyre. the gentleman from texas. mr. brady: thank you, mr. proud to yield one minute to the gentleman from tennessee, mr. burr chet. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized.
>> when i was five or six i had a sunday schoolteacher tell me a story that relates to what we're doing right now. a small child went missing in the plains states. the community went 100 different directions and didn't find the child. they finally came together, prayed to god, asked him for wisdom. they ended up holding hands an walking across the prairie. mr. speaker, they found that child. this country needs to remember that in -- and this body needs to remember that i think we need to put our partisanship aside. we need to quit bickering and ask almighty god for wiz dopped and do what's right. thank you, you're doing a fine job. the speaker pro tempore: thank you. the gentleman from maryland is recognized. mr. hoyer: i yield 30 seconds to the gentlelady from illinois, ms. underwood. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized. ms. uns wood: i rise today in strong support of the cares act. over 2,500 illinoisans have been diagnosed with the coronavirus. 26 of whom have died. countless more are in need of testing an thousands of our frontline health care workers
are desperate for p.p.e. just this month, over 130,000 illinoisans have lost their jobs. the cares act provides economic he re-leaf to individuals, and improved unemployment protection. it will help state lorks call governments and health care systems meet the enormous hallenges. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. the gentleman from texas. mr. brady: pleased to yield one minute to the gentleman from new jersey, the head of the pro-life caucus, mr. smith. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized mr. smith: as of today in my state alone, 6,800 people have been tested positive with 81 deaths and in one family alone four members of the family have died. containing the pandemic, developing and deploying reliable therapeutics and a safe, effective vaccine must be our highest priority no matter
the cost. those on the frontlines in health care, first responders, are heroically meeting the challenge often at great personal cost. the $2.2 trillion cares act is comprehensive and absolutely needed. it provides unprecedented support to taxpayers, small businesses, grants to hospitals, help state and local government, boost unemployment and security. special thanks to all of those on the house and senate side, the leadership for their cooperation in this bill and to president trump, the vice president, doctor birx, dr. fauci and many others who have brought their expertise to confronting this huge challenge. yield back. mr. hoyer: i yield 30 seconds though gentleman from missouri, mr. clay. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. clay: i rise in support of the cares act. i'm so proud of the emergency
housing priorities including a temporary moratorium on evictions, foreclosures of home owners and federally backed mortgages. there's $4 billion for emergency grants, for homelessness, $5 billion for cbdg and $1 billion for project based assistance. we are in this fight together and we will not be broken. viruses come and go but the courage of the american people -- the speaker pro tempore: the time of the gentleman has expired. the gentleman from maryland reserves. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. brady: thank you, mr. speaker. proud to yield one minute to the chairman of the values action team, the gentlelady from missouri, mrs. hartzler. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized. mrs. hartzler: we are at war against an unseen enemy our world has never faced before. we are battling on two fronts, the health care front and the economic front. thousands of people are sick with courageous health care workers battling on the frontlines.
meanwhile, millions of americans have lost their jobs because of the virus. imperiling family budgets and devastating our economy. today's bill sends needed battle reinforcements to both fronts. it provides pounds purchase more medical supplies and to support our hospitals while also sending much-needed help to businesses so they can make payroll and keep the doors open. it sends money directly to almost every household and supports those who have lost their job due to the covid crisis. most importantly it give this is nation hope. hope that we will get through this by supporting our health care workers, enabling businesses to stay open, and sending americans funds needed to get them through. while this bill is far from perfect and the price tag is sobers, i believe we are in an unprecedented battle and it is imperative we win this war. i will be voting yes and i invite all americans to join me. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired . the gentleman from texas reserves.
the gentleman from maryland is recognized. the gentleman from maryland. mr. hoyer: i yield 30 seconds to the gentleman from new york. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. espaillat: i rise in support of the cares act. mr. speaker, it would be criminal to not support billions of dollars for our hospitals and health care workers. it would be criminal not to support millions of dollars for small businesses that will be struggling. it would be criminal to not support help for working families, $1,200 for individuals, $500 per child. but it's crit ka to leave out immigrants. they clean our houses and take care of our children and elderly. -- criminal to leave out this is our future. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from maryland reserves. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. brady: proud to yield one minute to the yell from florida, mr. mast. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. mast: mr. speaker, i would
rather die than see my country stumble or fall. and by god, i mean that and i i don't think i'm the only one in this body that feels this way. i'm worried that as a result of a virus that was born in the disgusting market in wuhan, china, that was hidden from the world that our country may stumble. but i can tell you that that worry has subsided quickly for me as i looked around my own community and realized again that americans are a salty group of tough s.o.b.'s that are defeated by absolutely nothing. this isn't going to defeat us either. there's parts of this bill that i don't like but i'm proud that when americans wake up tomorrow they're going to continue to know that ewith wake up here not as victims but as people with a greater opportunity than anybody across the world, 50 stars, 13 red and whide stripes, we get to decide for ourselves that today is better than yesterday this week is better than next week this month is better than last month and next year and so on. nobody else gets to decide that for us.
that hasn't changed and will never change. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas reserves. the gentleman from maryland is recognized. mr. hoyer: i yield 30 seconds to the gentleman from pennsylvania, connor lamb. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from pennsylvania. mr. lamb: i know a firefighter going into sick people's homes, still today work no mask. we all talk like this is war. but george marshal, a western pennsylvanian, wait for u.s. steel to join the war effort in their own good time? no. he used to say, you cannot fight against the problem, you have to decide it. we have given this government money. we cannot give it leadership. now is the time to decide this problem. take this money, buy the masks, build the ventilators, protect our people now. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from maryland
reserves, the gentleman from texas. mr. brady: proud to yield one minute to the gentlelady from american samoa, ms. raid wagen. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized. mrs. radewagen: i rise in overwhelming support of this bipartisan legislation. the country meeds and american is a meawowa desperately needs it. american samoa has unique challenges. so far my constituents are without any coronavirus testing at all as nbc recently reported. the army corps has report our l.b.j. hospital needs over $100 million in minimum improvements to meet compliance standards. i want to thank the president for his leadership and i thank my colleagues for including my request that the pacific territories and the freely associated states are in the definition of state so all pandemic unemployment assistance programs apply us to. our people are strong and their
faith is strong. let's get this funding to work and provide testing in america samoa. thank you, mr. speaker. may god bless us all. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. the gentleman from texas reserves. the gentleman from maryland. mr. hoyer: i yield 30 seconds to the gentlelady from new york, again, the epicenter, who know this is firsthand, ms. clarke. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized. ms. clarke: thank you, mr. speaker. as vice chair of the energy and commerce committee i rise in support of the cares act my colleagues have spoken about the provisions of this bill and although it's not perfect it is a necessary one. we must now protect our constituents in the ninth district of new york, the epicenter and all americans across this country. new yorkers have been through 9/11, the financial meltdown, superstorm sandy and now we're in the midst of covid-19. in my city, noverbingt, we're not just fatesing -- fatesing economic ruin but also a genuine health crisis. that's why it's so critical that donald trump use the defense
production act. i yield back the balance of my time the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. brady: may i inquire as to the time remaining on both sides. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from heather has 10 1/2 minutes. the gentleman from maryland has 11 minutes. mr. brady: i'm proud to yield one minute to the gentlelady from indiana, mrs. brooks. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized. mrs. brooks: mr. speaker, i urge strong support for the cares act. for years, my colleague from across the aisle anne shoo, have worked to pass the pandemic all hazardness preparedness act. that was signed into law j june of 2019. for years we have said it was not a matter of if we would have a pandemic but when we would have a pandemic. that when is now. . time to place blame. now is not the time to look
back. time to act and to look forward. ow is the time to restore confidence in this body. this acte time to pass for those health care workers who are staying at the hospital they're begging us to stay home. now is the time for all those watching dren who are this body, thinking about and learning about this body, to them we can come together and govern. now is the time to pass the act. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. the gentleman from texas reserves. from maryland is recognized. mr. hoyer: mr. speaker, i now ield to mr. sablan, who represents the northern an anas, and he does such excellent job. thank you very much. i yield 30 seconds. the speaker pro tempore: the entleman from the northern marianas is recognized for 30 seconds. r. sablan: mr. speaker, the legislation we are considering to stop the coronavirus is not
perfect. ever is, and we but even work to do, n mid crisis, we should not forget to say thank you. speaker pelosi responded the coronavirus to give health care providers resources, families financial workers and rt businesses. and throughout this unprecedented time, always the and her leadership remember the united states of of ica includes the people the northern mariana islands. for that i'm grateful. the speaker pro tempore: the expired.'s time has the gentleman from maryland reserves. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. brady: yes, mr. speaker, i'm to theo yield one minute gentlelady from new york, ms. stefanik. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from new york is recognized for one minute. stefanik: new york is the epicenter of the coronavirus i want to thank our nurses, our doctors, e.m.s., teachers, nders, and ers and -- grocers
truckers. the better angels. making to saratoga. to emergency bill needed pass yesterday. it needed to pass last week. new yorkers and this nation need for our ef immediately hospitals, health care heroes and hardworking families. country is a resilient nation, from the revolution to pandemic war to the flu to 9/11, we will overcome this. congress needs to step up, do rescue pass this package today for new york state and for the american people. and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the yields back. the gentleman from texas reserves. the gentleman from maryland is recognized. it now r: mr. speaker, gives me great honor to yield to the chairman of the democratic the gentleman from new york, again, the epicenter of as achallenge that we have country, hakeem jeffries. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york is one minute.or mr. jeffries: america is the wealthiest country in the
history of the world. assembled the mightiest military, but you annot judge the greatness of america based on our wealth or our military might. we should only judge the america based on left stand up for the behind. the cares bill is legislation that will help and provide the most vulnerable amongst us. it will provide relief to everyday americans. relief to small businesses. it will provide relief to workers. the coronavirus is a silent targeted the s american people, but we are a resilient nation. great ated the depression, we defeated nazi germany, we defeated jim crow. will defeat covid-19 as well. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the gentleman from maryland reserves. texas is man from recognized. mr. brady: mr. speaker, may i nce again inquire as to the time? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas has 8 1/2
minutes. he gentleman from maryland has 9 1/2 minutes. mr. brady: thank you, mr. speaker. one minute to the gentleman from illinois, mr. bost. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from illinois is recognized for one minute. mr. ost: thank you, speaker. i rise today in strong support of the cares act. rural southern illinois, there are 27 cases in my district. cotogether ed to am in a bipartisan manner with this with -- we need to to deal with the business businesses where they need to go it's a work, whether small business or a large business. this bill does that. is it perfect? no. step forward that we need to do and do today and with that i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. he gentleman from texas reserves. the gentleman from maryland is recognized. mr. hoyer: mr. speaker, i yield our distinguished vice chair of our caucus, katherine clark from massachusetts. the speaker pro tempore: the massachusetts is recognized for one minute. ms. clark: mr. speaker, i rise
support of the cares act. mericans are facing a public health crisis that's unprecedented threat to the our h and safety of communities. hospitals are struggling to care or our communities and get the protective equipment they need. the pandemic has brought businesses, and whole states to a standstill, state of my home massachusetts. mericans are calling for help, and today we will vote to bring them relief and offer them a ifeline, but it won't be the end of our support. to those on the frontlines, workers, cashiers, childcare providers, truck rivers, cleaners and postal workers and to all americans, we see you. we appreciate and are grateful for your sacrifice, and we will to fight for the people. i yield back.
the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. the gentleman from maryland reserves. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. brady: thank you, mr. speaker. pleased to yield one minute to the gentleman from virginia, mr. wittman. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from virginia is minute.ed for one mr. wittman: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise today on behalf of the district f the first of virginia to say that half a's glass is still full. while we face this unprecedented across our e see nation the resolve and the spirit of america. alive and well. while this is a challenge for us congress to show the same spirit and resolve, to get he job done for the american people. while this bill is far from perfect, it will demonstrate together and me show what we have -- sew what we the days past what's going on across america. folks, america's best days are come, and we continue to be the greatest nation the
world has ever known. bless our tinue to great united states of america. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. he gentleman from texas reserves. the gentleman from maryland is recognized. mr. hoyer: mr. chairman, now i'd yield to the distinguished gentleman from texas, mr. green. tempore: the o gentleman from texas is recognized for 30 seconds. r. green: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, the american people want to know that their there for will be them. they want to know that their tax ollars will pay dividends for them. they want to know that we will romote the general welfare as extolled from the preamble to the constitution. they want to know that we will to become he perfect the enemy of the good. this is not a perfect bill. it is a good bill. i will support it. the american people need certainty. that we will now be there for them. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from maryland reserves. is gentleman from texas recognized. mr. brady: thank you, mr.
speaker. pleased to yield one minute to he gentleman from kansas, mr. watkins. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kansas is watkins: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise on behalf of the people of eastern kansas. analogy has been thrown out a lot. as a man that went to war and years, i can tell you it's not all inaccurate. n both cases people are frightened. in both cases people die. in both cases, people discover of. it is they're made and when war, just like now, people need to come together. his bill is an example of having done just that. it's not perfect, but it's what got. it's got my vote. i urge my colleagues to do the same. i yield my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from texas reserves. the gentleman from maryland is recognized. he gentleman from maryland is recognized. mr. hoyer: thank you, mr. chairman. i would now like to yield to a member of the house and a debbie from florida,
wasserman schultz for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from florida is minute.ed for one ms. wasserman schultz: thank you, mr. speaker. as a proud floridian, i rise to workers, health professionals, small businesses and veterans from this grave face. we senate republicans drafted a corporate friendly bill that failed to meaningfully support who are losing their jobs. instead, democrats secured a invests $2 trillion in families, hospitals, and small businesses. massive ill get investments in unemployment benefits and added 13 weeks of benefits which republicans deny. to working class families will get as much as $3,400 for a family of four. mall businesses will get help to make payroll, rent, and utility costs. i'm proud that the ppropriations committee spearheaded nearly $20 billion to ensure veterans' health needs re met, whether at the v.a. or local e.r. and clinics. appropriators have also worked o ensure our v.a.'s can assist our local communities if they
reach full capacity. this package is not perfect, and help will be needed, but our families, small businesses, nd hospitals need this help desperately. i ask my colleagues to give them this lifeline against this invisible enemy. in this together. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. the gentleman from maryland reserves. texas is man from recognized. mr. brady: thank you, mr. speaker. we also reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas reserves. the gentleman from maryland is recognized. mr. hoyer: mr. speaker, i am yield to the former president of the university of wisconsin, president of the miami, and f secretary of department of health, one of our most about geable members issues of families and workers, secretary, ished donna shalala, congresswoman from florida. the speaker pro tempore: for how time? mr. hoyer: one minute. excuse me, 30 seconds. we have a lot of people going here. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from florida is recognized for 30 seconds. ms. shalala: mr. speaker, today, cares act to the president to provide the people
in my community with the needed the devastation of this pandemic. i'm here for the first esponders, the health care workers, and all of those who are risking their lives. they are our heroes. we need to support this bill now because we must. with no has left us choice. but my hope is that after we have starved this virus, we will a national commitment to permanently rebuild our public infrastructure. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. the gentleman from maryland reserves. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. brady: reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas reserves. the gentleman from maryland is recognized. r. hoyer: mr. speaker, i'm now -- another member of south florida, all three of them have indicating the importance of the crisis that debbie measure murcasal sayal poul -- powell. the peaker pro tempore: gentlelady is recognized for 30
seconds. ms. mucarsel-powell: over 1,200 have lost their lives. 2,300 ida alone we have cases, 652 in miami-dade county, monroe county. south florida is quickly becoming another epicenter of this pandemic. watching how numbers for unemployment are skyrocketing. closing.inesses are it's a tough reality to face, but we in congress can do something. come together. set aside our ideological and help people now and that's why i support this bill. thank you, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the entleman from maryland is recognized. mr. hoyer: mr. speaker, at this the i'd like to recognize gentlelady from iowa, ms. finck for 30 -- finkenauer,
30 seconds. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized for 30k seconds. finkenauer: i found out we lost another two iowans to coronavirus, all in my district.nal today, we are grieving losses ll over the country and the globe. we are --cation came too late. the package we're considering perfect.not it will not bring folks left that we lost, but it will give much-needed relief to our system and workers on the frontlines and to our across the lies country. god bless the united states of america. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas reserves. he gentleman from maryland is recognized. mr. hoyer: mr. speaker, can i have the time check? the peaker pro tempore: gentleman from maryland has 5 1/2 minutes, 5 1/2 minutes. the gentleman from texas has 6 minutes. mr. hoyer: the gentleman from texas -- you have 6 1/2 minutes left. i yield 30 seconds to colin
allred from texas. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized for 30 seconds. mr. allred: thank you, mr. speaker. i want to speak to the people of north texas, many of whom are under stay home, stay safe orders like those from dallas county judge clay jenkins and others. many of you are frightened, you're warred about your family's health and your business. we are on your side, we will not let this great country fail, we'll defeat this virus in a way that leaves no one bind. we should fol throw the examples of our great first respoppeders. we can best honor their service by staying home if you can. i yealed back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. brady: mr. speaker, pleased to yield one minute to the gentleman from ohio, mr. davidson. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from ohio has one minute. mr. davidson: i don't think anyone is happy about the present situation but the free
market did not close the economy. governments chose that response to an exceptional risk to public health. the various governments made up in our country need to make sure individuals, families and businesses affected by their unprecedented decisions remain solvent and as many people as possible remain employed. like any war, the enemy votes too but the sooner we can get lower risk americans back to work the safer most people will feel in our -- will feel. in our response, we must defend our values and the way of life that makes america the world of opportunity. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas reserves . the gentleman from maryland is recognized. mr. hoyer: i yield 30 seconds to mr. chuy garcia of chicago. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for 30 seconds. mr. garcia: i rise in support of the cares act even though it doesn't protect everyone i wish it would, including all immigrants. however it represents a bold, unprecedented step in protecting workers and bolstering our
health care system and in stabilizing our economy,est pellly our small businesses. that's why i will vote aye. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the yellow light from maryland reserves. the gentleman from texas reserves. the gentleman from maryland is recognized. mr. hoyer: i now yield to the gentlelady from pennsylvania, madeleine dean, for 30 seconds. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized for 30 seconds. ms. dean: thank you, mr. speaker. thank you to the leader. the coronavirus pandemic is a reminder of our common humanity and our interconnectedness. i stand today to say montgomery county, pennsylvania, burks county, pennsylvaniaing, my home district have been particularly hard hit. there's suffering and courage in my community. we have had three deaths. i rise in support of this cares act, it is unprecedented, it is a monumental bill to send relief and confidence to those who are suffering. to our workers. to our families. to our chirp, to our business
owners. i'm proud to support this bill. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expire thsmed egentleman from texas is ecognized. the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. brady: mr. speaker, i'm proud to yield one minute to the leader of the republican conference, the gentleman from california, mr. mccarthy. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. mccarthy: mr. speaker, i want to thank you for the job you have done in the chair today, we thank you for the work you are doing. before i begin i want to say to everyone watching at home right now, we hear your concern. we feel your anxiety. we know what we need to do. when this year began, americans were enjo -- enjoying a level of peace and prosperity unheard of in modern times. the economy was at record highs. unemployment for american
workers was at record lows. take home pay was rising. business closures were falling. and our brave men and women in uniform were protecting us from threats across the globe. but a few weeks ago, we learned about an invisible enemy from a distant land. an enemy like we've never faced before. now the virus is here. we didn't invite it. e didn't ask for it. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman will suspend the house is not in order. members take your conversations to the hallway. the gentleman may proceed. mr. mccarthy: now the virus is here. we did not invide it. we did not ask for it. we did not choose it. but we will fight it together until we win together. we will win because we have the
best of our country on the front lines. we will win because of the other people in uniform, our doctors, our nurses, our lab technicians. and hospital volunteers. take one moment and imagine, where would we be without their fortitude? they have the toughest jobs in the world. but they are truly the best in the world. our medical professionals are our heroes. we, this entire body of members of congress, salute you. we will always win because of our truck drivers, grocery store clerks, postal workers, farmers and warehouse workers. you're working night and day. you're making a meaningful, measurable difference in the lives of everyone you serve. you are the foundation of everything we will do today. and we will win because of our scientists.
their bright minds an faster cures should give every american peace of mind. we are developing a victory vaccine, faster than ever in the history of any virus. on behalf of all americans, on behalf of all members of congress, i want to thank those on the front lines for their professionalism and dedication. another critical front in our war against this virus is the home front, literally. to slow the spread, the government is asking and in some cases requiring millions of small businesses and families to put their daily lives on pause and remain at home. i'm overjoyed that so many have taken the imperative of social distancing so seriously. flattening the curve is the most important activity any american citizen can do today.
it is even more important now that the virus has arrived in full force. we are asking you to continue to remain at home as much as possible. i know this action carries substantial circumstances. we all saw that tragic news just this week. 3.3 million americans filed for unemployment benefits. we have never experienced that before in our lives. not even in the great depression. that many. so what can we do for the hard working taxpayers, their families and small businesses? the pillars of the american life who are doing their part but facing economic disaster through no fault of their own. first we can recognize that -- recognize their sacrifice is an invaluable service tour fellow
citizens. they deserve our gratitude and prayers. second we can give them our financial support now, today, so they can weather this brutal storm in the weeks ahead. which brings me to the rescue package before us today. the cares act. the developing tests and dreams and vaccines is america's new arsenal of democracy. the cares act is our modern day all american marshall plan. it is the largest assistance measure in "american idol" history. and it is going directly in the pockets of hard working taxpayers they families and small businesses. for everyone affected by this virus, we will be your voice. for those battling the virus, or lost your job, or do not know if you'll have one a month or two from now, i want you to know we're listening, we hear you, and we are working for you. i want to give leader mcconnell a lot of credit.
from the beginning, he was committed to a bottom up, bipartisan and bicameral process. he non-- he honored his commitment and it shows. the senate passed this bill by unanimous vote. every republican, every democrat. it is bold. truly bipartisan. and targeted to achieve the mission at hand. our top priority is to keep americans at work. so we aim the efforts to keep americans employed through two measures. for small businesses and nonprofits, the bill provides 100% federally guaranteed loans for eight weeks. if that loan is used to pay your employee or pay your rent or pay your utilities, it's no longer a loan, it's a grant because we know what government has asked you to do. other business gets retention credit to keep employees on.
if, unfortunately, american workers find themselves out of work, this bill offers an additional 13 weeks of unemployment insurance. and dramatically expands eligibility. it also makes benefits more generous by adding another $600 across the board payment. through the end of july. the care act also expands unemployment insurance to cover gig workers and self-employed and nonprofit employees. additionally for american families that might need a little extra support, you will start receiving and seeing those checks in three weeks. you won't have to wait for months for financial help. payments will be as much as $1,200 for an individual taxpayer and $500 per child. finally this legislation provides critical resources to american health care workers and hospitals. over $140 billion in
appropriations to support our ealth systems. it we just talk about give them the equipment to save lives and tools they need to protech themselves. the reason for this legislation is to protect american workers prork tect american jobs, and protect hard working american taxpayers. we are providing targeted temporary and timely relief to main street, not wall street. we're not underwriting bad business practices or priming the pump. ultimately we are laying the foundation for rapid economic recovery. this bill is not only a rescue package, it is a commitment. a commitment that your government and the people whom you elected to serve will do everything we can to limit the harm and hardship you face, both
now and in the foreseeable future. to the american public if you do your part, i promise we will do ours. mr. speaker, as i said earlier it is our responsibility to act. to put aside our differences and do what's right for the american public. d must be robust, rapid, and resilient just like its recipients. we are going to help americans through this. we are going to do this together. in the end, we are going to be healthier, stronger, and more united than ever before. because as americans that's who we are. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from texas reserves. the gentleman from maryland is recognized. mr. hoyer: mr. speaker, i yield 30 seconds to mr. cohen from tennessee. the speaker pro tempore: the
gentleman from tennessee is recognized for 30 seconds. mr. cohen: thank you, mr. speaker. words above the speaker's head at the top of this chamber from daniel webster, he says, may in our day and generation, may we not perform something worthy to be remembered. today we have something worthy before us and something to be remembered. we should all vote aye. i am here to vote aye and encourage the president to use the defense production act for everyone and to continue talking to the president of china because this is a worldwide pandemic. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from texas is recognized. the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from maryland is recognized. mr. hoyer: i now have the privilege of yielding to the speaker of the house who has been so critical in putting this piece of legislation together and focusing on workers and families, i yield to speaker nancy pelosi of california. the speaker pro tempore: the speaker of the house is recognized.
the speaker: thank you very much, mr. speaker. i thank the distinguished democratic leader mr. hoyer for yielding and the manner which -- manner in which he has enable sod many of our members to participate in the debate today. thank you for your leadership on the legislation and also for leading us today. i thank mr. brady for his leadership as well. for facilitating this conversation. i thank you, mr. speaker, for keeping us reasonably on time as much as possible for congressional members. thank you for the strength of your authority. , the speaker pro tem today. -- of your authority, the speaker pro tem today. i thank all members on both sides of the aisle for the seriousness with which we have all taken this important hallenge. mr. speaker, last week his holiness pope francis said, in
his world prayer, he said, enlighten those responsible for the common good so that they might know how to care for those entrusted to their responsibility. that is his holiness' quote. and that is the responsibility that we all have. today, as we have all acknowledged, our nation faces an economic and health emergency of historic proportions due to the coronavirus pandemic, the worst pandemic in over 100 years. as i proceed with my remarks, i want to say to our colleagues, who are watching this -- the proceedings from their chambers in the house, to come forward and come to the -- come to the gallery and listen from here. so that when the time comes, we will be prepared to proceed.
the distinguished leader on the republican side, mr. mccarthy, and mr. hoyer, have sent a communication to all of you to that effect. but it is very important that you come now. the sooner you come, the shorter y remarks will be. and i want to thank the distinguished leader on the republican side for his leadership throughout all of this to achieve a bipartisan legislation and to do so as expeditiously as possible in the house. in the house. so that the message will be clear to the american people that whatever concerns we may have and whatever we want to do next, right now we're going to pass this legislation. and that is because so many american families have been touched by this crisis. more than 82,000 americans so far have fallen sick. a number certain to surge as testing goes forward.
which is already the most in the world. we've gone past china and italy. more than 1,200 americans have tragically died. it gives you chills just to think of it. millions of workers are losing their paychecks, including more than, as has been mentioned on both sides of the aisle, 3.2 million americans who filed for unemployment last week alone. a staggering record-shattering figure. countless health care workers, first responders and others fighting on the front lines in this crisis are at great personal risk. the american people deserve a government-wide, visionary, evidence-based response to address these threats to their lives and their livelihoods, and they need it now. again, i acknowledge the bipartisanship in which we -- on which we bring this legislation to the floor.
late wednesday night, as the leader acknowledged, the senate unanimously passed legislation which transformed, in our view, since you acknowledged, leader mcconnell, i will acknowledge our distinguished chairman on our side, which they transformed a republican corporate-focused bill into a democratic workers-first focus. and we salute our chairs, working in a bipartisan way, and in a bicameral way, across the aisle, across the capitol, we are able to dramatically expand unemployment insurance and defeated attempts on the senate side to claw back the $600 per week added benefits that would provide essential relief to the record number of americans losing their jobs. and i salute chairman neal and scott for the work that he did on this. i know this is the work -- work
that they did on this. i know this is the work of the ways and means committee. and successfully achieve full-direct payment for workers, this is so important, ensuring that working class american families will be eligible to receive as much as $3,400 for a family of four. i thank again mr. neal and -- madam chair of the financial services committee, maxine waters, who -- both of them had bigger proposals. but nonetheless advocating for all this. by the way, i would suggest, instead of saying it's going to take a few weeks for the checks to get there, that the administration electronically transfer those direct payments immediately. we ensured in the bill that any taxpayer dollars given to industry goes first and foremost to workers. workers' paychecks and benefits, not used to pay c.e.o. bonuses, stocks, fund buybacks or dividends and the rest. and i thank -- and we have secured robust special oversight
that will hold the administration accountable for this. and i thank the distinguished chair of the -- where did he go? energy and -- the infrastructure and transportation committee, mr. defazio. for his leadership in that regard. i will not try to find all of you because you may be in the gallery as we are encouraging members to come. here we go. we're also proud -- again, i want to salute the congresswoman waters for the work, for the holding -- having the oversight provisions in the bill for the count that is going to be spending money out. we're also proud to have secured truly historic investment of hundreds of billions of dollars in hospitals, health systems, state and local governments, ensuring that they have the tools they need to combat the virus. i salute chairman pallone, congress -- chairwoman lowey of the appropriations committee, and chairwoman delauro for
making so much of all of that possible. and when we talk about state and local government, i want to express pride in our own governor, gavin newsom. he was on the front line of attacking this, as well as my own mayor who has disciplined us to shelter in place. for small businesses, thank you -- madam chair velazquez, and working in a bipartisan way, we want fast relief for those in need, including by securing $10 billion for s.b.a. emergency grants of up to $10,000, and making payroll costs, rent, mortgage interest and utility costs eligible for s.b.a. loan forgiveness. and for the first time, we have grants from the s.b.a. and thanks to secretary mnuchin, he has facile -- he is facilitating this by not just all of the loans going through the s.b.a., but going through banks with the s.b.a. which makes this all go much faster. for our students, we've passed
payments for -- paused payments for federal student loan borrowers, paused the payments and suspended wage garnishment and negative credit reporting during this time for that and for so many other things relating to our students. i thank bobby scott, our chairman of energy -- education and work force. and labor. and for our veterans. you heard earlier all of these chairmen make these presentations. for our veterans we secured nearly $20 billion in funding to improve v.a.'s readiness with equipment, tests and additional 571 veterans and 185 employees have now tested positive. i thank chairman takano and others on the committee for their leadership. for our homeowners, renters and homeless creditors again, i thank -- and consumers, i thank chairwoman waters for her leadership there. since the beginning of this
crisis, we have fought to ensure that our nation's response puts families first. as we go through this. so the first two bills that we worked in a bipartisan way on were about addressing the emergency. the first bill was about testing, testing, testing. to ensure that everyone in the country would have access to free testing. among other things. it had in there issues that relate to research for vaccines, research for a cure, but many other things, addressing the emergency. in the second bill, which also focused on the emergency, we have masks, masks, masks and many other provisions focused on the emergency. but taking us to this bill today, which is about mitigation . the distinguished mr. defazio would say, first we had emergency, then we had mitigation. doesn't mean we're finished with emergency. but it's moving on to
mitigating, -- mitigating some of the economic and health damage caused by it this pandemic. next we'll to move recovery and hopefully that will be soon. always, though, addressing the emergency and the mitigation needed. how are we coming, mr. leaders? how are we coming with our gallery? >> the house is not in order. the speaker: as we have all said universally, and we say it almost all the time that we come to the floor, no bill is perfect. no bill is perfect. but we want to make sure that at least it comes part of the way to being sufficient. i do think that we should -- when we're considering a bill -- appreciate for what is in the bill rather than judge it for what is not in the bill. but we do know that we must do more. there's been a constant communication among all of our members, i'm sure on both sides
of the aisle, when you're at home or here, with doctors, health care providers, laborers, small businesses, nonprofits, faith groups and scientists on the daily needs and developments in your communities. the on-the-ground reports and clear-identify thinking we have are essential to crafting our approach to all of this. so, again, listening to members on both sides of the aisle and the comments here today, as well as the input you have been giving in the legislative process we know that this cannot be our final bill. yet this bill, again, -- i think bobby scott called it a down payment. we must advance a fourth bill to address the continued needs. for our fight against the coronavirus, our state and local governments will need vastly more support for preventing, preparing for and responding to the crisis. our hospitals and health systems
still need vast infusions of funding so they can treat those in need. we must do more for our health care workers. and this has been a current theme on both sides of the aisle. our gratitude for our health care workers. they are our heroes. we're thankful and grateful to them. we pray for them. but we need to do more for them than just to say those word. our front line health care workers, and whether they're emergency need, our firefighters, our law enforcement, face a dire lack of medical and personal protective equipment. p.p.e. personal protective equipment. that's the reference when you see p.p.e., that's what it is. we must ensure that the president uses the defense production act to its full extent to provide the tools that we need to combat this crisis. all workers are risking their lives on the front lines of this fight and need stronger osha
protections to keep them safe. thank you, mr. scott. this week, for example, for example, and you probably all have examples, this week we learned of the tragic death of a nurse manager in new york who died in the line of duty from coronavirus. he and his fellow nurses risked their lives without proper protective equipment because the hospital supply simply did not have enough. nurses were given a single plastic protective gown to use for an entire shift. when protocol called for a change of gowns between interactions, with patients. other nurses were forced to resort to tying bandanas over their faces in place of proper equipment. and still others even began tying plastic garbage bags
around, disposable scrubs they were given in place of proper scrubs for extra protection. as mr. kelly's sister said, his death could have been prevented. i'm angry. he was healthy. and now our nurses, doctors, health care workers and first responders need action. we have to make sure they know that help is not only on the way, but it is a priority for all of us. these people risk their lives trying to save other people's lives. hen they take home what they interacted with in an infected environment -- take home. this is just asking far too much. our family, our workers, our retirees still need more money in their pockets to protect their income security, with increased snap. one thing we couldn't get in the bill was the increased -- the 15% increasing in food stamps
for our children, for our seniors, for those who qualify. bigger direct payments, i hope that we'll be in agreement. i know that ritchie and maxine d the idea of ongoing direct payments, so bigger direct payments. pension protections. we had a protection in the legislation. it was supported by everyone. the president of the united states supported it. but senator mcconnell said he would save it for the next bill. so that's why i'm mentioning it. for the next bill. and then we need more expanded family and medical leave. let me give you an example. come on, my colleagues. to the gallery. let me give you an example. if your parent is sick or had an ongoing caregiver in the home or went to a senior center on a daily basis, and because of the
virus that care giver couldn't come or that health center was closed, you would be able to give -- you would be able to take family and medical leave. however, as in the case of many members here, if your mom or your dad are healthy, and they contract the coronavirus, you would not be able to take family and medical leave. . for those who cannot air r care for themselves -- -- who cannot care for themselves. it doesn't make any sense n any case we need that and without exception. and all americans need free coronavirus treatments so they don't have to fear the high cost of a hospital stay . when we said the tests were free, it didn't mean the test was free but the visit to the doctor is not. in the days and wooks to come democrats will continue to advance legislation to meet an urgent needs of all affected by
the coronavirus. i keep saying the coronavirus because in this -- people say how come we didn't do this or that? because this is specific to the coronavirus challenge that we have. i just want to say a word about our children as i close. so many of our children -- i want them if they are paying attention, distinguished congresswoman brooks mentioned the children. we are so sad for them that they cannot be fully engaged in school as they were. some have access to remote learning and the rest. and this has had a deep impact on american lives as it affects our children as well. graduationshat some have been canceled and hopefully not so many more, and they -- the mother of five, grandmother of nine personally, but officially in my leadership role i have seen hundreds of thousands of graduates. and what's exciting about it
personally and officially is to see the excitement of the families when their child graduates. but when that family happens to have someone on the stage who is the first in the family to graduate, the pride, the joy, the patriotism is so exuberant and many of them will be deprived of that experience of seeing that child walk across the stage. let's try to get this. e had the best minds working 24/7, all hands on deck to find a cure. let's make sure that we give them the resources they need to do so. but at the same time that will we obey the science that says shelter in place or whatever it happens to be. as we go forward, let us pray, let us remember what his holiness told us, what he told us was we have a responsibility for the common good.
let us prepare for all the one who is have lost family members and others struggling with the illness now. let's pray for our heroic health care workers and first responders who are risking their lives to care for the sick every day. the men and women in our factories making more medical supplies and personal protective equipment. the farmers, produces, grocery workers keeping food on the shelves, our truck drivers, postal workers, everybody who is contributing to the effort. and the sciences, as i say, all hands on deck, 24/7 for a solution. congress must show the same courage, same resilience, same strength and with a great unity and urgency to put families and workers first. let me again thank everyone who had any -- anything to do with this, and that means almost everybody in this room. let me thank the senate democrats and leader schumer for his work as you acknowledge leader mcconnell. let us again return to the words
hits holiness, pope francis. may we enlighten those responsible for the common good so that they may know now to care for their -- those entrusted to their responsibility. with that i hope we have the biggest possible vote for the american people to show them that congress' heart and the country's heart is full of love for the american people. and with that, mr. speaker, i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yield. the gentleman from maryland reserves. and the gentleman from texas is recognized. thank you, mr. speaker. i have no other speakers and prepared to close. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. brady: i yield myself such time as i may consume. thank you, leader mccarthy, for
your strong and relentless leadership. thank you for allowing each of us to bring to the table the pro-growth policies that brought about the strongest economy on the planet as we headed into this challenge. thanks to our house leader, to our ranking members, and all the key committees representative granger and fox, representatives walden, mchenry, cole, and chabot these members who engaged in this historic agreement. and to the professional teams who practice every moment night nd day in this endeavor. i want to thank our democratic colleagues for working with us on this bipartisan bill. to our republican colleagues in the senate. i especially want to thank secretary mnuchin, the point man for president trump op these negotiations.
as well as -- president trump on these negotiations. squells the white house economic team. i especially want to thank president trump for his strong and results oriented leadership at a time of unprecedented crisis for this great country. in times of challenge i lean on this proverb. fear not, faith answered, no one was there. coronavirus has knocked at america's door and with it fear. faith is answering. we answer with faith in ourselves and our ability, faith in our free enterprise system, faith in our amazing health care system, and, yes, faith that when the chips are down congress can come together with our president to help hardworking families and businesses when they need it most. we answer that door at this crucial moment with faith in our
creators and faith in our great american spirit. this is the challenge of a lifetime. but if we keep pulling together, we pass this bill today without delay, we take another step toward that day when we answer the door and fear is in longer there. on behalf of president trump and the republican congress, we urge support for this bill. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas yields back the billion of his time -- balance of his time. the gentleman from maryland is recognized. mr. hoyer: mr. speaker, as i id, america has faced many threats. ome in the nature of attack by enemies. some in the nature of natural disasters. whether they be hurricanes or tornadoes or floods.
americans have responded. and overcome those threats. we now have a threat that some have mentioned is unseen but has a great effect. and is having a great effect today as we debate this bill. in america. today we'll vote not as democrats or republicans, we will vote as americans. who have been september here to represent our country and our people. -- sent here to represent our country and our people. to promote the general welfare. certainly the general welfare has been put at risk by this virus. we have in a very short time passed three major pieces of legislation. two that generated in this house, one generated in the senate. we will pass this bill today. i want to thank the majority leader -- excuse me the minority, i'm the majority
leader, right? you can't have it. while we enjoy a little levity, we understand the graphity of this -- gravity of this situation. people will die today as a result of this virus. we have come together as democrats and republicans from every region of this country to respond in a way sufficient for the challenge. and we know we'll need to do more. but this day let us hope that like the united states senate we come together each and every one of us not for partisan advantage but for the advantage and defense of our people. merica has been blessed by god and by our people.
let us respond this hour to their need in their defense so that america will go forward stronger and better and more ready to face future challenges. mr. speaker, i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. all time for debate has expired. pursuant to house resolution 911, the previous question is ordered op the motion. the question is on adoption of the motion. so many as are in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. >> mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, i came here to make sure our republic doesn't die by unanimous consent and empty chamber and i request a recorded vote. the speaker pro tempore: recorded vote is requested. those favoring a recorded vote will rise and remain standing
until counted. an insufficient number has risen, a recorded vote is refused. for what purpose does the gentleman reckedsvecked? mr. massie: i object on the basis a quorum is not present and make a point of order a quorum is not present. the speaker pro tempore: the chair will count for a quorum. counted for a quorum, a quorum is present. the motion is adopted. without objection, a the motion to reconsider is laid upon the table. pursuant to section 7-b of house resolution 891, the house stands adjourned until 3:00 p.m. on tuesday, march 31, 2020. the house passed the $2 trillion legislation with the -- despite
representative massey's attempts to force a recorded voice vote. the congressman spoke to reporters about what he called for the recorded vote. -- can wesman maffei have a moment of your time, sir? we have an, can moment of your time? congressman? did not givethey me a minute to speak in a four-hour debate. there's a big cover up in there. they had enough people there to pass the bill, but they refuse to have a recorded vote and they told me they were trying to protect members. there are 435 members. rep. massie: they are trying to protect the members that were there from political ramifications. >> [indiscernible] agreedthat everyone should be passed. said, i camelike i
here to make sure a republic does not die in an empty chamber by unanimous consent. they are telling people to buy groceries and get food. they can be in there and vote. that's what we did. any.dn't delay the vote they sat on their cans yesterday here. they didn't do a thing. they were trying to delay it to have the recorded vote. the truth if you want to report it is they do not want a recorded vote. they do not want to be in on the against mistake in history. -- biggest mistake in history. >> [indiscernible] rep. massie: i'm at least second rate. [laughter] rep. massie: no respect. pelosi and mccarthy. i was right there with them. >> do you believe this is the best method to do this, sir?