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tv   Campaign 2018 Washington 8th District U.S. House Debate  CSPAN  October 18, 2018 11:00am-12:00pm EDT

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pennsylvania's 10th congressional district, harrisburg, pennsylvania, live coverage at 7 p.m. eastern. formerek on monday, president barack obama will be in las vegas for a get out the vote rally. 4 p.m. eastern and also on monday at 7:30 p.m. eastern, president trump will speak and houston for ted cruz and his reelection bid. c-span, your primary source for campaign 2018. congressman dave reichert is retiring leaving an open seat in washington eighth congressional district. last night, the candidates held their only debate. >> good evening and welcome to mcconnell hall at central washington university, the venue
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for the first and only debate in the 2018 race for washington's eighth congressional district. debate has been organized by the washington state of a coalition, sponsored by the seattle city club in 2016, to enhance access to those who hold office and the states highest elected offices. >> lead sponsors, aarp of washington, the bill and melinda gates foundation and the northcliffe foundation. we want to thank central washington university for hosting and partnership with the chamber of commerce, is associated students of central washington university and the ellensburg daily record, along rosslyn andurg, easton school district. >> we invite you to join the conversation on social media by using #waelex.
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large audience has agreed to noten, no tears and no boos, cheers. they will hold their audience until the end of the debate, except for now. >> the format for tonight's debate is simple. each candidate will have 90 seconds for opening statement, questions will then be asked of both candidates and they will have one minute for initial response. ross and i will lead a follow-up discussion on the topic before moving on to the next question. we flipped a coin. the doctor will have the opening statement. you have a minute and a half. >> good evening. i am a pediatrician, wife and mom. i spent the past 17 years taking
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care of children and families. the policies of this administration are a threat to children and families everywhere. i have always gone to that for patients -- for bat for my patients, so i met with my congressman's office and explained the ways a repeal of the affordable care act would be harmful. days later, he voted for it anyway. we deserve better. you deserve better. you deserve a representative who will stand up for you and fight for you and be a check and balance against policies that only work for special interests and the wealthiest americans. unfortunately, working for special interests and the wealthiest is exactly what my opponent has been doing as a career politician. he was a trump delegate and he will always put the president's policies above yours. his support of the tax bill that of the wealthiest and
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want to pay for social security and medicare. he supports repealing the affordable care act and taking protections away for people with pre-existing conditions. he is always opposed a woman's right to choose. he is wrong on the issues and for this district. protecting my patients comes naturally to me, it is what i've done in my practice and what i will do as a member of congress. i will be honored to earn your vote. >> 90 seconds. >> my grandparents settled in black diamond, washington at the turn-of-the-century. if you go in the basement of the museum, my grandfather's photo is on the wall. i'm the artist of seven raised on school teachers salary, i grow up eating hamburger helper without the hamburger. i wanted to go to school. i worked a number of jobs to make my way to the school of business at sedalia. i worked as a janitor.
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the commercial real estate business with nothing but a janitor job. when i was 25 years old i bought my first apartment building. i was elected to the state senate in my mid-30's and i dropped the average age to 70 when i was elected. i was chairman of the senate ways and means committee. my grandparents came to america because they believed that in america you can rise to any level your talents will take you. there is no guarantee of success but you have a shot. that is why i am running for congress. that is what needs to be preserved. the grandson of that coal miner in black diamond has a chance to get to the united states congress, in the very area where he worked in those coal mines. only in america. >> thank you.
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>> we will talk about health care. americans pay more for health care than any other nation, many key indicators we lag behind including lifespan. what would you do to reduce costs and improve health care for all americans? health care is incredibly important. but we need to do is make sure we bring competition to the system. you can do it in various ways, being able to buy across state lines, freeing up mandates we currently have. my opponent, who wants a government takeover of health care, that means that the government will pick your doctors, hospital. we cannot afford that. say ite left think tanks will have to double our income taxes to pay for it. the bottom line is if we free this up and the system will work, it will work if we have competition in the system. right now we just don't have
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that. i believe that as removed in this debate you will hear more and more about these things. a government takeover of health care will destroy medicare as we know it. seniors are counting on medicare, people that have paid into it for user counting on it. i want to make sure it is there for the future. >> what would you do to reduce the cost of health care and make it better? pediatriciani am a and a person living with type one diabetes since the age of 16. i understand our health care system is a doctor but also as a patient. i got into this race because i want to make sure every family in this district and country can afford the care they need. that means shoring up the affordable care act, not sabotaging it like our president, certainly not repealing it without a better replacement like my opponent would do. actupports dismantling the and taking away protections for pre-existing conditions, this
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would take health care away from 32,000 people in our district. he does not believe women can make their own health care decisions and that is critically important. thell always be a voice for people in this district and making sure people can afford the health care they need, he will be a voice for insurance companies and big pharma. president trump says we will always protect americans with pre-existing conditions. the trump justice department told a federal court it will no longer defend provisions of the affordable care act that protect patients from being kicked off insurance because they have pre-existing conditions. do you support what president trump says or what his justice department does? dr. schrier: we should always look at the actions when we look at the words. i do not trust this president will protect people with pre-existing conditions. he and his party has run for years now on repealing the affordable care act, which would
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take away protections for people like me with type 1 diabetes. the president says we should keep pre-existing conditions but his department of justice is not doing anything to defend them. mr. rossi: i have been clear we need to do something about pre-existing conditions, even if it is a subsidized high-risk pool. it could bankrupt a family. i lostamacare came in, my health care for myself, my wife and my children. i ended up with a lousy plan, did not cover things i wanted covered, i had a $12,000 family deductible on top. my goal is to have as many health insurance companies chasing around you. so you can decide what is in your plan. that is freedom. we need to have competition to get that done. ross: do you believe women should have the right to a legal abortion? mr. rossi: i have always been clear. i have never run on that issue.
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my opponents have run on that issue. my wife and i are both catholic, we believe every soul has a value. i never believed abortion was intended for anything other than rape, incessant and the life of the mother. everyone of those lives are valiuable. i protected the mentally ill. chairmanently finished of the board of special olympics for the state of washington. in most memorable are very -- the most vulnerable are very important to me. i believe in the importance of life. ross: where do you stand? dr. schrier: you can say you're not running on these issues. this is an important issue for the women in this district. you will have a congressional vote. we need, at a time when roe v. wade is threatened and the
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supreme court is going hard right, we need advocates for women's health care. i will always support a woman's right to make her own health care decisions, i will support access to plan b, with my and i willposes always respect a woman's right to make your own health care decisions. ross: you are committed to health care for all that you work for a virginia mason clinic that does not accept all medicaid plans. is that not inconsistent? dr. schrier: let me be clear. there is a misunderstanding from my opponent, which is that, i believe we should have medicare as a public option so anyone at any age and even small business owners can buy into medicare, just like private insurance. that would bring down prices across the board and my plan goes on to take on costs overall. including prescription drugs. it is important to have a doctor, especially a woman
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doctor, to take this crisis to washington dc. trade, an now to issue critical for the state and district, tariff tensions have caused washington farmers tens of millions of dollars in losses this year. do you believe the current administrations trade tactics are working? if not, how would you communicate that to the trump administration and what tools could you use in congress to help farmers here? one minute. dr. schrier: the state of washington is the most trade dependent state in the nation. the eighth district is particularly dependent, especially in agriculture areas like here. i believe in fair trade agreements. this means agreements where we protect workers, jobs and the economy from the eighth district and we have environmental protections in these agreements need to have teeth to enforce standards. what is happening now with this
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tariff war is hurting farmers. i spoke a long-ago against these tariffs that are hurting cherry farmers and apple farmers and hay farmers. my opponents data silent. is difficultdes it and expensive to do business with the state of washington, it will take business elsewhere and our cherry farmers and apple farmers may never bounce back. this is why we need trade agreements and not is wars. >> do you agree with the tarriffs. mr. rossi: no one wants a trade war. here is what is going on. we have an agreement with canada and mexico. i have been endorsed by the farm bureau in every county in the state farm bureau as well. 28% of farm exports go to canada and mexico. that is good. we have a network for the european union and japan as well. i was on a trade mission representing washington stay with our secretary of state in china, we were in beijing, in
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beijing the leaders of the weion were reassuring us, are cracking down on intellectual property theft, we are doing that. i walked out of the meeting and went around the corner and was offered microsoft products for $11. we went back to the beijing hotel and the port commissioner on the trade mission was madder than a hornet. in the gift shop, he found a counterfeit apple, they put a sticker from washington on. we're in a position to have strength against china and get proper rules. >> if you were advising the trump administration, what would you say how to negotiate with china? mr. rossi: the last quarter, manufacturing has dropped in china. rates,have unemployment lowest since 1969. we're in a position of strength. a company that goes to china,
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american company, has to have 51% chinese ownership. that means it could be government ownership as well. they are taking our intellectual properties. my story about the ag community, we were in china and they were building parts for boeing, and they spent an hour trying to convince us to build the whole plane. they would take our technology and build their own plane. >> what would be your advice in negotiating with china? dr. schrier: you do not have to putw uncertainty and and our farmers at risk in order to secure and renegotiate better trade agreements. look at thetable, standards we need that will protect american jobs, workers and our environment, sit down and negotiate that without putting our farmers or boeing. at risk . every product we export from the state is hit with a 5% to 25%
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tariff. that is hurting our country, state and district. >> show the transpacific partnership be rejoined? dr. schrier: it has passed. i believe we should be in trade agreements and i have given you my standards for environmental protections, worker protections and labor protections. if it meets those standards and has teeth, i would support an agreement like that. we always better having the united states in these agreements. otherwise they sink to the lowest common denominator. i want the united states in, to make sure we had the standards, particularly environmental and worker standards. >> you referenced a new deal with mexico and canada, congress must still approve the deal. would you sign it as is? what you like about it? mr. rossi: the agricultural community likes it. having an agreement between mexico and canada is important.
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28% of agricultural exports go to those countries. it sets up the framework, where you can have negotiations and agreements with japan and european union. intellectual property -- it had to be updated. it is updated in this agreement. from what i have seen so far, it is heading in the right direction. word, do you like the deal as is? would you sign it? dr. schrier: i have not read the entire deal. i like that we are trading and making agreements with our northern and southern partners. i do not believe we have to throw away nafta or get into trade was to negotiate a better deal. -- trade wars to negotiate a better deal. >> what is the biggest challenge to our economy? mr. rossi: people not understanding what makes it work. what you need for businesses to grow and people to have jobs is modest taxation, fair and predictable regulation, let
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entrepreneurs the entrepreneurs. -- be entrepreneurs. my opponent wants to raise taxes, pulling money out of people's back pockets. my opponent wants to double income taxes by having a government takeover of health care. my opponent supports a 57 sent a gallon gas tax that will not go to roads. she supports the state income tax. these do not create jobs. what you want to have his small businesses growing. when they grow they have to hire people, people have a chance to get a better job and they get moved forward and when there is competition for employment, salaries and benefits go up. that is what you have to do. right now, there are 7 million jobs in america unclaimed. -- we have an incredibly strong economy and we
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have to keep it going. tax cuts like my opponent wants to do will kill jobs. >> let us hear from your opponent. what is the biggest challenge to our economy and what would you do to address? one minute. dr. schrier: middle-class families are getting squeezed. we need to build it from the middle out and invest in our economy in the eighth district. we need to make investments in agriculture, technology and infrastructure so we can bring jobs, and grow jobs in the eight district. should have middle-class tax-cut because when you put money in the pockets of people in the middle-class, they spend it and it will grow our economy from the middle out. this is a stark contrast to my opponent who has never ever stood up for the best interests of working families. he ran for governor promising to cut the minimum wage, after the financial crisis he voted against processes that would
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help small businesses get on their feet and against unemployment insurance. he supports this tax plan, that would give 83% of the benefit to the wealthiest, corporations and does not get nearly enough to the middle class. i will stick up for the middle class and working families every day. i do not trust that he will. the tax bill, will add $1.5 trillion to the deficit. what will you cut to reduce the deficit or do you support restructuring the tax cut? mr. rossi: we need to make sure tax cuts are permanent. 80% of the money will go to people outside of the 1%. let's get that straight, first. i was chairman of the senate ways and means committee during the largest dollar deficit in state history. democratic governor at the time. i was the one that balanced the biggest deficit without raising taxes, and still protected the vulnerable.
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i received the defender of liberty award for being the architect of the most fiscally conservative budget in the state. i have done this before and how did i do it? it is not five things or 100 things? , it is thousands of decisions you have to make line by line through the budget. that is what i have done. there are a number of things you can do to make this work. just like i did in olympia. i did everything in a bipartisan fashion. i had five moderate democrats join me, there went through a democrat-controlled house. everything i get a tax for in this campaign, was voted for, signed into law. that is what is missing in washington dc. you do not have anyone who has wanted to work across party lines. same question to you.
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the tax bill will add $1.5 trillion to the deficit. how would you deal with that as a congress member? dr. schrier: i would back up and say that is not a tax plan i would have supported. it exploded our debt and all of a sudden fiscal responsibility has returned to congress and they want to pay for it by cutting social security and medicare and snap and other benefits. if everyone pays their fair share, we do not have to talk about making for comey and cuts n cuts toes -- draconia services. social security need to be there for us when we retire. ross: automation and artificial intelligence, will replace hundreds of thousands of jobs in the coming years. how should we prevent massive unemployment? dr. schrier: we are not there yet and i see that as a possibly upcoming threat. when we get there we can talk about things like universal
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basic income. we still need people to run those machines and do the programming for that machinery. my eye is on that but unfortunately we have not come to that place yet. >> universal basic income is an idea that has been floated. do you support it? mr. rossi: no. we need to keep the economy strong. their opportunities and jobs for everybody, there will be. my opponent just talked about everyone paying their fair share but she wants to repeal tax cuts that would give a $2000 increase the families, regular families in the eighth district. that is not going to solve these problems, it is just going to hurt families. this is something we will disagree on. ross: i'd like to get back to a point that you made, dino rossi, you said we should make the personal tax cuts permanent, they're not under this tax plan. i want to find out if you agree with that?
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dr. schrier: yes, absolutely. we need to do whatever we can to support the middle class. i would add that $125 a month, that's ok for the middle class, but we could do so much better. it is really not enough especially when you're cutting medicare and social security to pay for it. comes out as a net negative for middle class families. ross: thank you, kim schrier. mr. rossi: that's a change of position throw. my opponent on march 3 at her resistance indivisible meeting said she wanned to repeal the -- wanted to repeal the tax cuts period. and so now apparently the position is moving along and changing as we speak. ross: would you like to respond, kim schrier? dr. schrier: this has been fact checked up and down my position has been clear. i oppose the part of the tax plan that gave the vast majority of the benefits to the wealthiest and to corporations, and we know that doesn't trickle down, and it does not do nearly enough for the middle class. if i were reworking, i would take away some of those benefit -- benefits for the wealthiest, close the loopholes that let people get away without paying their fair share and keep
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benefits for the middle class. ross: thank you, chris schrier and dino rossi. >> before we get to our next question we're inviting the audience here in the hall and those watching live, select a topic you want to see addressed later in the debate. here are the choices. social security and medicare. gun policy. war veterans and for military. go to to vote. now turning to immigration, another big issue. there are reports the trump administration may be considering a new family separation policy. according to administration officials speaking to "the washington post," one option is for the government to detain families together for up to 20 days, then give parents a choice of staying in detention with their child or allow the child to be taken to a shelter, ultimately separated from their parents. so to both of you, should this policy in any form be resumed, and what would you do to address illegal crossings and the -- at the border? there's reports of a new caravan
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from central america seeking asylum. dr. schrier. dr. schrier: we are a nation of immigrants, and immigration is one of the most important topics here in the eighth district. what we're seeing at our southern border is just evidence of the inhumane policies of this administration that really are only allowed to take place because of a broken immigration system. and that time and again, democrats and republicans, career politicians have failed to come to the table to pursue commonsense comprehensive immigration reform that will secure our borders and keep families together and have an earned president to citizenship -- and have earned a path to citizenship for people who are already here and working and keeping our economy afloat. and so i support comprehensive immigration reform. now my opponent, he ran his campaign wanting a tall fence with a high gate which sounds a lot like this president's $25 billion border wall, which is something i do not support and i think would be a huge waste of
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our tax dollars. so he will be part of the problem. i will be part of the solution. i want comprehensive immigration reform. >> mr. rossi. mr. rossi: it is too easy to get our tax dollars. here illegally and too hard to get here legally. that's the problem. we have to make sure that we have border security. whether it's a physical barrier or could be electronic monitoring or human beings as well. but we have to make sure we have a functioning border. without a functioning border, it -- you really don't have a country. so we have to make sure that happens. as far as separating families, i said right up front we shouldn't be separating families. that's not something we should be doing. the other thing too when it comes to immigration, especially for the agricultural community and others, is we need to have a guest worker program that works. guest worker program is separate from immigration. it's different. people are going to come from another country, do the work, and then go back to where they came from. but we need to know who is coming. we need to know who is coming and going in our country. that is really the question here. are we going to have a dysfunctional border or a functional border? i think we should have a
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functional border. i think at that point we can move through some of these points that need to be addressed. >> before moving on to worker visas, i want to press you on both because i didn't quite hear clear responses to how you'd deal with thousands of migrants coming, seeking asylum from central america. mr. rossi. mr. rossi: there is a process for seeking asylum. you go to a border crossing. you don't just walk across the border and claim asylum, you go to a border crossing. there's a process in place if you need to seek asylum. that's what they should do. >> dr. schrier. dr. schrier: of course. i think we should distinguish between typical paths of immigration and a refugee crisis, and there's a different pathway. demonstrating there's a real threat and getting a court date is the way we should handle these cases. there's no need to imprison families. there is no need to separate children from their parents, you should come and get an ankle
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bracelet or wristband and a court date and go through due process as we have always done. we should prioritize deporting criminals, not harassing families. >> i'm sure you've heard many times from farmers in the district that they struggle with a labor shortage. and the temporary worker visa program continues to be a problem for them. so how would you modernize the the h2a visa program, dr. schreier? dr. schrier: the h2a visa program doesn't work well for either the farmers or for the workers and can lead to sort of a pattern of indentured servitude where a worker is essentially held hostage by a potentially, potentially abusive farmer or farm owner. and so that's why we have to have to have reform to make sure our laborers are protected, that we have visas like in h2a. a reformed h2a so that farmers can get the seasonal labor they need. our economy here in the eighth
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district depends on agriculture, and we need to make sure that workers are here and trained and available. mr. rossi. mr. rossi: i don't believe our farmers are abusive, number one. number two, we talked a lot the guest worker program. this is something that is broken. we need to make sure who is coming here and mention they can get here, do the work and go back to their home country. this is all part of what needs to happen. it will have to happen after this election because right now it seems a political posturing, but you are playing with peoples lives. that is not right. >> congress has not been able to reach his legislative fix for the hundreds of thousands of young undocumented dreamers. in 30 seconds, mr. rossi, would you support a standalone daca bill if democrats take back the house. mr. rossi: i have been very
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clear as well that we are talking about 690,000 of people who would be taken and shipped back to a country they don't even know. that is not logical. we should not do that. but we also need to make sure we have border security first or we will end up with the same -- in the same boat two or three years from now. it is is backing or the same problem we are going to have. i'll think we will get there until after the election. this seems to be posturing and not wanting to solve the problem. those both things have to happen. we took a bill before and ronald reagan in 1986 was promised border security that never happened. we can't allow that to happen again. >> republicans hold the house. what kind of border security members would you support if they are part of a larger daca bill? ms. schrier: first of all, a wholeheartedly support the dreamers. the 2017 dream act. i believe we should have a clean daca bill, not tied to anything
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else and not held hostage in budget negotiations. 87% of the population of this country understands that dreamers, these young adults and kids deserve permanent legal status and it is astonishing to me and of warrant that -- abhorrent that their fates were holed up in budget discussions. we can have poor security without drones. we do not need a portable. there's a border wall. >> let's turn to the environment. the u.n. just released a report saying that if we need to avoid dire consequences from climate change, one thing we must do is phaseout coal. president trump says he wants the u.s. to burn more coal. who is right? mr. rossi: i take a backseat to nobody when it comes to the environment. the things i have actually done, i spent six years on the board of the nature conservancy and the board of the mountain green way as well.
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i helped assemble the greenway. i received an award twice from washington conservation voters. i rebuilt the hatchery when they tried to shut it down. these things are of concern to me. we need to make sure that our environment is secure for the future. that is really the things that i have far for time and time again. i have done it. we need to make sure our air is clean, our water is clean. we have to make sure that you talked about climate change, that we save our dams. our dams are 80's percent of our power, carbon free. my opponent told the senator who represents this district in the state senate six months ago that to save the same and we needed to tear down the dams. i don't agree with that. i think that would be a travesty. what would he do to washington? >> is the intergovernmental panel on climate change correct
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when it says we need to phaseout coal or is the president correct when he says we need to burn more? ms. schrier: this is a critical issue and i should word from the washington conservation voters -- they have endorsed me because they know i take this seriously and i will be a champion for climate action and he has a zero rating. i look at this as a pediatrician and a mom and how will -- what our actions today mean for generations beyond. as a person with a background in science, i am frustrated that this has become a political issue. this is a place where we have an opportunity to be a leader for the country and the world on how you can grow and economy and do the right thing for the environment. that starts with not subsidizing the fossil fuel industry or supporting coal and it means investing instead in clean energy technology like wind and sun and infrastructure and jobs, like the ones students here are
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studying for in their energy management program. i will absolutely be a champion for environmental -- >> mr. rossi, i didn't hear the answer to the last question, which is should the u.s. phaseout coal are born paul -- burn more? mr. rossi: we don't have cold burning plants in the state of washington but let's get back to what we do have to protect the environment. our dams, 80% of the dams -- 80% of our power comes from these dams. my opponent is endorsed by organizations that want to tear down the dams. i say to save the fish, but we spend hundreds of millions of dollars retrofitting these dams. 90% of salmon get through. these same organizations don't want to count a renewable energy. as long as they keep draining around here -- it keeps raining around here, i am pretty sure it is renewable. we have to preserve these for the future.
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>> do support president trump's patrol from the climate accord? mr. rossi: if they were an actual real treaty, president obama would have brought it through the senate to take care of it, but he didn't. what it did was allowed china and india, to the biggest polluters, off the hook yet that is what it did. it handcuffed american -- america and let them off the hook. i think we can move forward in a different way without that. >> what you think of a president trump's withdrawal from the paris climate accord? ms. schrier: it is a wrong move. this is a place where we should be joining with our fellow citizens around the world. this is a global issue, something we should be joining with all other nations. we are the only country that has pulled out and the second largest producer of co2 emissions in the world. it is our responsibility to clean up our mess and our obligation to the rest of the world to join and partner in what should be a common interest that we all have in making sure we protect this planet so that this generation and generations long after we are gone.
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>> your district if you are elected would take a hit economically if we move forward on some of these environment will issues. ms. schrier: i don't think we would take a hit at all. look at all the jobs that solar and wind are, look at her incredible capacity for infrastructure and a new modernized electrical grid. these are jobs we could bring here to the eighth district, grow our economy, and diversify our economy and to the right thing for the environment. i would be proud to be a leader there. >> thank you. >> now to your governing style. both of you have recently gone negative against your opponent in political attack ads. before the negative ads were coming from outside groups but starting this month, your individual campaigns. why go negative and do you think that helps solve partisan divisions in this country? ms. schrier: i think we're all frustrated by the negative ads
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and the attacks and frankly the root of this is all of the money in our politics. what we're seeing is the citizens united decision which allowed unlimited quantities of dark money to come into our elections and buy our politics. there is only one person up here who really wants campaign finance reform and that is me. ultimately, those attacks leveled at me, which have all been debunked, a coming from the congressional leadership fund, which is paul ryan's super pac. that is heavily funded by the fossil fuel industry, big pharma, insurance companies, and they will say or do anything about my record in order to keep this state for the republicans. they know that i will take them on, take on big pharma and insurance to make sure people get the care they need and that is why we need money out of politics. why go negative? mr. rossi: in my campaign, we
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compare and contrast what my opponent wants to do with what i want to do. my opponent's tamerlan supporter, nancy pelosi has spent more money against me than any other human being in america. over $4 million with these negative, false ads. they are false ads. they have been developed over the years. the same ones keep coming back again. you want to talk about governing style, i have an opponent to comes from the resistance movement. you are telling the world that you are not willing to work with anybody else unless they agree with you. my opponent has marched in more protests in seattle than parades in the district. i had my kickoff breakfast with steve argent, the seahawk and he had protesters out front. my opponent was one of those protesters. put it on facebook standing there with a sign about me. i worked across party lines. you can't work across party lines by doing that. we have enough people yelling at each other without adding
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another one. i was very successful at business and in politics and in life. by not yelling at people. there is no way you can work across party lines by yelling at some buddy. i want to give you a chance to respond. ms. schrier: i'm a pediatrician and a mom and i got into this race because congress was not doing its job, not providing checks and balances and was attempting to take health care away from my patients and people all of this district. i thought it was important to go to bat for people all of the district. i don't think there is anything radical about wanting people to have of care, be taken care of and have a government that works on behalf of the people and not special interests. that is the different between a community pediatrician and a career politician. i will work for the people in the district, not for special interests. >> back on the -- mr. rossi: back on the ads, my
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opponent is running an ad about business dealings. the seattle times went after that add and they want to talk about the trustee who was defending and going after mike mastro and he said the ad is a character assassination based upon guilt by association. he called it a lowlife smear. that is not the kind of campaigns we want to see happen. we're going to talk about the issues. >> would you like to defend that ad? ms. schrier: i stand by mad. i'm can schrier, i approve the message. -- kim schrier, i prove that message. [applause] >> there was a recent op-ed which said the republican-controlled congress has failed to assert itself and review or investigate the conduct of the executive and has been complicit in some of the
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president's most egregious attacks on our democratic institutions. mr. rossi, do you believe in is to be more oversight and how would you stand up to the president when needed? mr. rossi: i have been clear on that one. i running to be the congressman we need in the congressional district. the constitution says there are three separate branches of the government. i will treat the president the way i would treat any president. i'm not running to be the apprentice. part of what is going on, the same thing happens in olympia. they put forward legislation, they give it the executive branch to write rules and it is a way for politicians to wash their hands of it without having responsibility. i would like to see the big pieces that the agency's right come back to the legislative branch so you can go thumbs up or down. then the public decides if they want to throw you out of office. that is the piece that is missing but the reason is because politicians don't want
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to be responsible. >> dr. schrier, some democratic members are talking about investigations into the president, his policies, even supreme court justice brett kavanaugh if democrats win back the house. is that what you would like to see? what we like to see investigated? -- what would you ms. schrier: we have evidence that russia interfered in our elections and our public discourse and this should not be a partisan issue. this should not be something only democrats are concerned about because this affects our national security. we should all be concerned when we have a foreign country meddling in our elections. the investigation should be bipartisan, but i am the only one who will commit to protecting the mueller investigation. my opponent will not. i want to get to the truth. truth should not be part of an issue, i want to see what the facts lead and then go from there. we all deserve to know we have an election coming up in less than three weeks.
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i like to know happened in our 2016 election. >> turning to foreign policy, just this afternoon, u.s. intelligence services said it is likely that the conference of saudi arabia is complicit in the murder and torture of washington post writer at the saudi embassy in istanbul. what is the correct u.s. response to what we know about this? rossi: we have to find out exactly what happened. i know the secretary of state has been over investigating this. we need to know what is going on. whether it is an ally or not, we can't allow that to happen if it were true. we have to be diligent with this. we also have to be cognizant of the one thing ran would love us to have is us to have a wedge between us and saudi arabia, because they are the ones that have been helping us were actually is -- iran is an enemy of saudi arabia.
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we have to make sure that we work through this and if it is true, then bring people to justice by their country. and move forward from there. >> kim schrier, one minute from you about what you think is the appropriate u.s. response to this report that the saudi government is complicit with this murder and torture. ms. schrier: i find it deeply concerning and highly alarming that this would happen and i find it curious that on the same day that the screws are tightening on mohammad bin salman that $100 million was cut to the united states. this is not just a u.s. response. this needs to be a response from everybody around the world, different countries and organizations all need to speak out when we see other countries attempt to silence, kill, jail, otherwise suppress the free press. this is a journalist and we out to all be alarmed when the press
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is being called enemy number one and reporters are being silenced. there needs to be accountability. i will wait and see what the evidence shows, but the evidence is looking damming right now. the current efforts underway to present -- prevent russian insurance -- prevent russian interference adequate? ms. schrier: i wish we knew what was being done to protect the elections. i have no faith that this administration has pursued the truth to safeguard our elections. i don't think this has been taken seriously enough. it should have started right after the 2016 election and we only now hearing about steps being taken to read in washington state, we're safe, because we have a nice way of putting by paper and mail, but i cannot say that for voting machines throughout this country that could be hacked. >> dino rossi, what you think
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about the russian attempts to disrupt our elections and particularly the upcoming election? mr. rossi: we shouldn't let anybody disrupt our elections in any way shape or form. what they're trying to do is create chaos. i was an election observer in the macedonian promontory elections and i witnessed a system that was very secure and safe. why was that? when the ballots were cast, there were 26 political parties in the room together while they counted every ballot one by one. having people that didn't trust each other together watching what was going on made it a secure system. having influence from the outside into our system is something we can't tolerate, but they have been doing it for years and they will continue to do it. it is not just russia, it is other countries as well. can't allow anybody to mess with our system. >> i want to ask about north korea. should the u.s. tolerate a north korea with nuclear weapons capable of striking the u.s. and
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if the united states should not tolerate this, what is to be done? ms. schrier: i am worried at all times about nuclear arms in the hands of unstable leaders. i am deeply concerned about the nuclear capabilities of north korea and think that working toward bigger disarmament is absolutely the direction we should be headed. we need to do this for diplomacy and the state department. i am heartened by recent negotiations between north and south korea, they seem to be working in the right direction but i really believe this is why we need to fund our state department and make sure we have negotiators to really lead to a denuclearize korean peninsula. mr. rossi: denuclearization is the only option. progress has been made. when we have the remains of
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people from our soldiers from the korean war conflict have been brought back to america, so, their families can bury them honorably. that is progress. not shooting missiles off right now, that is progress. we have to make sure that we do do denuclearize that peninsula and the only way to keep the sanctions up to keep it difficult for them to actually operate. these are things that have to happen. i would rather be talking to them than shooting at them. >> kim schrier, could you expand on nuclear disarmament with other countries that might pose a threat? ms. schrier: this is why we need a well-funded state department, so we can have these negotiations. we have far too many nuclear weapons in this world and when i fall into the hands of bad actors, we are all in danger. i believe nuclear weapons should be a deterrent and that we
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should minimize the number of nuclear weapons that exist in the world. this means having agreements so that we can do you guys here -- we can denuclearize here and abroad. >> we are nearing the end of our time. the final topic has been selected by the audience. a reminder that the choices were social security and medicare, veterans or the military and you chose gun policy. that brings us this question. washington voters will be deciding this november on whether or not to raise the age of purchase for semi automatic rifles to 21. how would you vote on this initiative? should the rules for handguns and semi automatic rifles be the same or different? dr. schrier? ms. schrier: guns are the number three cause of death in children and i am a mom and a pediatrician and that is what
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makes me so motivated to take on this to the cult issue and is important issue of keeping our kids safe. i send my child to public school every day and no parent should have to worry about their child at school. as a pediatrician, i understand that three out of four gun deaths in this district are from suicide and they take care depressed teenagers. what i want is to have guns owned safely and that means making sure they are locked up and not the hands of children. it also means having universal background checks and reporting systems and making sure guns never fall into the hands of people with a history of domestic violence or severe mental illness. my opponent has an a rating from the nra and in this past election, $450,000 of advertising was put on tv on his behalf. i will sit down with anyone to keep our children safe. he will not make those moves, because he is supported by the gun lobby. >> to clarify, do support raising the age of purchase?
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ms. schrier: i do. >> mr. rossi? mr. rossi: i am the father of four and just a few weeks ago, my wife and i became grandparents. there is nothing more precious to me than my children and my grand children just like anybody else who is watching right now. when you talk about safety in schools and issues like that, there is nothing more precious to us. there is more security coming into this building been getting into a school. we have 296 school district in this state. i'm not sharing we should -- i'm not saying we should armed teachers but we should have resource officers to protect our children. i'm willing to work with anybody has a solution that is effective and constitutional. when i am sworn in as a member of congress, i am sworn in to uphold the constitution, not just the first amendment. it is also the second amendment. i plan on doing that.
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i don't believe and many people don't believe in that provision and a few others are constitutional, but the courts you're not in support of raising the age? why should there be different rules for handguns and semiautomatic rifles? mr. rossi: if that is brought to the supreme court, that could be changed as well if someone brought it. brought it to the supreme court. many people think so. >> this has been very contentious. where you think there is room for cover mise between republicans and congrats? -- and democrats? ms. schrier: it is interesting because i've been traveling this district a lot and talking to a lot of gun owners and non-gun owners. i've found that the vast majority of people who own guns want guns safe and not in the hands of children. i don't believe these issues are controversial. i believe this is part of safe
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gun ownership and the only reason we have not been able to come to the middle and have some good commonsense legislation is because the gun lobby is buying our politicians. i believe we need to hold anybody running for office and taking money from the nra accountable. we need commonsense solutions and will not be able to get there unless we get gun money out of our politics. >> do you agree mr. rossi? if the gun lobby to powerful? mr. rossi: i have not taken any money from the nra and automatic weapons are illegal in this country. there are sometimes devices like the bump stock that will turn these semi automatic weapons into full automatic weapons. i don't support that and i think the bipartisan support to eliminate those type of things. we once again would probably be able to come together on some of those issues. >> on the topic of keeping schools safe, what kind of measures do you think could get bipartisan support at the federal level for schools across the country?
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ms. schrier: there are a couple ways. one is making sure we have good background checks, universal background checks and reporting systems and make sure guns don't get into the hands of people who have a history of domestic violence. the other is making sure we have students watching students and counselors in every school. we know that ultimately, when it is a student who is the perpetrator, it is usually not mental illness. it is from being alienated or being bullied or abuse and we have students watching out for students who might be in distress and we have counselors, we can reduce that risk and i think both of those are places we can come together in the middle. i will sit down with anybody to keep our children safer in school. i don't know that my opponent will, because he is bought and sold by the gun lobby. >> mr. rossi. mr. rossi: when you look at the tragedy that happened in florida, this person had encountered the police on many occasions and had a history of
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mental illness. it was not flagged. he shouldn't have had a weapon. it are certain people that should not have weapons. you got to make sure they don't get them. when i talked up before, which is having school resource officers. 296 school district, they don't all have the same capacity. we may have to help with that. we have to protect our children. that is where we can probably find some agreement. >> do you agree with dr. schrier, more counselors? mr. rossi: obviously counselors we have in the school should be looking for these things already. they are going to identify students that need help. >> dr. schrier, do you agree with mr. rossi on more school resource officers? ms. schrier: absolutely. >> well, we found some common ground. that is all we have time for for tonight's debate.
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