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tv   Sammy Roth on President Trump Climate Change Announcement  CSPAN  June 1, 2017 7:52pm-8:02pm EDT

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the chancellor of germany. in the next few days we will be taking powerful initiatives in this direction. meetingday i will be the prime minister of india and paris. i will be discussing these topics with him. in the next few days i will be commitment.heir and finally, france will propose concrete action plans in order to increase its attractiveness to researchers and entrepreneurs involved in the ecological transition. it will take practical initiatives in europe and africa on this issue. i have asked the government to work on this actively, and hold a meeting of the government on this topic next week. we will not only keep our commitments of the past, from bes very evening france must
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even more ambitious for the future. for our future. long live the republic, long live france. >> with more on this story, joining us from palm springs, california is sammy roth, energy reporter for the da desert sun and usa today network. what does this mean for the west and for the paris climate records? >> i think there are two ways to look at it. the first way in the main reaction is that this is seen as a big slap in the face by the united states by president trump to most of the other countries of the world who were lobbying strongly for us to stay in the agreement. trump has been pushed to the leaders of the g-7 nations, china, india and major corporations and united states including oil companies, all of whom think it's important to
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reduce emissions for climate change, and two, that the united states is part of that conversation. symbolically it is significant. in terms of what it will do to the paris agreement, the major countries like china and india and the eu have all indicated strongly they are going to continue to work hard to live up to the commitments they made. for now it isn't going to leave to a collapse -- lead to a collapse although it is something people are afraid of. on the flip side of this, in a way this is nothing new from trump. since the day he took office he and his aides and administrators of various agencies have been working really hard to undo the climate policies put in place by president obama. in a sense they have already withdrawn from paris with the steps i have taken in trying to take for knowing for us to meet our commitments anyway.
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in some ways this could be seen as a formalization of what i have been doing. >> you're the president earlier today. he would like to renegotiate this agreement. walk us through the process if it were to occur. how would it happen? >> gosh. personally i have trouble seeing a successful renegotiation. the reason for that being one trump says his administration is coming from a place of climate change is either a hoax or not that serious, or just something we don't really need to worry about. and they seem to be of the opinion that renewable energy is exorbitantly expensive, which is not the case anymore and certainly they had made the case they want to go to coal and oil and gas which is incompatible with what the global climate targets are. when trump says he will
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is notiate, to me that something i really see happening successfully. i think that is a little bit more of a way of trying to say and we are not totally walking away. we heard you and want to be part of this conversation, but i'm not sure how much i'm going to buy that because of having trouble seeing what it is they're going to be able to concede that will be valuable. >> you have studied this agreement. is it fair to say the paris agreement includes benchmarks and goals that are not really enforceable? >> that is correct. parisy harris was able -- was able to get agreed upon by these countries was to make it unenforceable. for practical reasons a lot of country when i get on board it was going to be legally required. for internal legal processes, an
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agreement that was enforceable and innocence for that, the u.s. senate was not going to happen. there is definitely a school of thought that says well, was -- paris was unenforceable. energyre clean advocates that say paris was unenforceable anyway so maybe this isn't so bad, and people on the other side who say paris was unenforceable so we are not doing that much -- as much damage as the rest of the world says. >> we speaking with the energy reporter for the palm springs desert sun, joining us from california. he writes for the usa today network. what happens next if anything? week we i think next have sort of over the last few weeks and now in the last few
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minutes starting at indications other countries are coming forward and saying we are going to stick to our commitments. a lot of people seem to think, and i think you are signs of this that china will be stepping into the global leadership role of the climate conversation. domestically there are a lot of states and cities and companies as well that are working very hard to increase renewable energy and moved to cleaner transportation and recent missions. in california just yesterday the state senate passed a bill that would require 100% renewable energy by 2045, much more ambitious than anything anyone else has done. and companies like apple and google and facebook are sending huge contracts to be powered by solar and wind. definitely the missions in the united states -- emissions are going down. executives are not investing in:
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anymore -- coal anymore. think we will continue to see emissions going down and the united states just not nearly enough to be part of a climate solution that avoids the worst levels of warming they are expecting. >> that seems to be the sentiment of former president obama who said it is now up to state and cities to carry on the task. we're seeing some of that in a few key areas, correct? >> we are. mentioned speech he pittsburgh. pittsburgh, pennsylvania specifically and set of governing for the people of pittsburgh, not the people of paris. i saw on twitter the mayor of pittsburgh tweeted, hey, 80% of us voted for hillary clinton and we are supporters of linn energy and fighting climate change. that was a little amusing that
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was the city he chose to pull out. yes, definitely you are seeing states and cities. jerry brown today, the governor of california, is leaving for a trip to china and he will be talking to some of the leaders about climate and clean energy. there has been a lot of collaboration directly between california and china. we will see california sort of trying to step into the u.s. role on a world stage and say we are not done. we are still a part of this. states and cities are going to keep at it. >> we look for your reporting online. sammy roth joining us from palm springs, california. we appreciate your time. >> thank you for having me. >> tonight on c-span, former covers mickey edwards talk about modern politics and the constitution. president trump announcing the withdrawal of the u.s. from the harris climat agreement.
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and a look at free speech on college campuses. we start with a discussion about modern politics and how one of the founding fathers might be the government and media today. this is about an hour and 45 minutes. >> ladies and gentlemen welcome back to freedom day. a round of applause for the next phase of this incredible discussion.


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