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huge concern. "new day" continues right now. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. and good morning to our viewers here in the united states and all around the world. it is wednesday, september 1st. i'm john berman. brianna is off. cnn chief white house correspondent kaitlan collins with me for hour three this morning. >> well, hour three still going strong. >> this morning the nation's most restrictive abortion law is in effect in texas for now, at least. it is a near total ban on abortions and appears to put roe v. wade in serious jeopardy around the country if other states follow suit. this is a seismic shift on abortion lights. beyond out lawing abortion into six weeks in a pregnancy, before most women even know they are pregnant, this law allows private citizens to su'a abortion providers or anyone else who helps facilitate a procedure after six weeks.
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they can sue for as much as $10,000. you can sue the lyft driver that takes a woman to get a procedure. >> which, of course, makes it much harder to challenge in court which is by design. this is all happening because the u.s. supreme court failed to rule on an emergency request to block the law before it actually went into effect last night at midnight. the justices could still put this law on hold, but for right now as of 8:00 a.m. this morning they have not. and if your doctor finds a fetal heartbeat, you cannot get an abortion in texas right now. in this law there is no exception for rape or insist. only medical emergencies. cnn supreme court reporter aryan deveaux joins us know. can you tell us whether or not the supreme court is going to weigh in and why have they not weighed in on the emergency request to block this? >> reporter: it's interesting shall. as you said, roe v. wade is in jeopardy with this new conservative court. i want to say what the supreme court did or didn't do, but then stress that important caveat.
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as you said, this texas law among the most strict in the country, banning it at six weeks, and that's important because most people don't even know they're pregnant that early on. so the clinics rushed to the supreme court. they asked it to block it, freeze it pending appeal. it was set to go into effect last night at midnight and the court didn't say anything. so it effectively allowed it to go into effect. but what's key here is that those applications asking the court to put it on hold are still pending. so the supreme court could issue an order this morning or later on today, but the very fact that it allowed it to go into effect, that's a bad sign for supporters of abortion rights here. and i also wanted to stress what you were saying about why this law is different because we've seen plenty of laws that have come before the courts since roe. but those laws, you could hold a government official accountable. you could sue, say, texas officials. this law was written differently with the express intent of making it hard to block, because
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it allows private people to bring these civil suits against anyone who they think might be assisting the procedure. so that could be the provider. but it also could be someone who paid for the abortion. it could be someone who gave someone a ride to the clinic. that's why this law is so important. and that's why it was so hard for the clinics to try to block it, to find somebody to sue before it went into effect. and finally, the court hasn't overruled roe v. wade here, but, boy, it has sent this strong message by not doing anything. and as things are this morning in texas, it's very difficult to have any kind of abortion procedure performed. that's why the supreme court's inaction last night was so important. >> ariana, i think that's really worth noting and reiterating. by doing nothing they did something. they let stand a law. it doesn't overturn roe v. wade, because the court can do that,
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but it upends roe v. wade in texas. it more or less makes it newly. in texas, at least as we sit here at 8:03 eastern time, 7:03 central time where texas is, it doesn't exist, roe v. wade isn't operable in texas this morning based on this law because roe v. wade, of course, would say that a state can get in the way of an abortion somewhere around 22 to 24 weeks based on that ruling in other legal precedent. that's out the door in texas as of this minute. >> keep in mind, this conservative court with three of president trump's nominees, this term is actually hearing a case, oral arguments, briefs, the whole nine yards on a mississippi law that bans abortion at 15 weeks. so we're seeing the court not act here, allowing this one to go into effect, but then later in the term they are going to have this big dispute with oral arguments and opinion by the end of the term. >> if it goes another day or two or three without any action from the supreme court, i mean it
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already speaks volumes this morning. but those volumes go even louder as the minutes and days tick on. aryan, thank you so much for being with us this morning. joining us cnn political commentator anna navarro and melanie zanona. melanie, i want to go to you first. to see if the supreme court or other courts weigh in in the next few days. as things stand now, this is a seismic shift in abortion starting in texas. what do you think the larger implications are? >> well, from a political perspective, it kind of feels like the dog caught the bus, right. for so many decades, practically my entire adult life, there's been this political wedge issue that abortion has become. and there's always been this threat but it's never actually been executed. it's never actually gone beyond being a threat. i think the larger implications are that there's going to be a bunch of southern and
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conservative republican led, republican legislatures theat d copy cat laws. we've seen on the covid issue, greg abbott in texas, and ron desantis are almost in a contest as to who can be more of an obstacle towards vaccinations and masking. you know, i bring up covid, john, because i think it's so ironic in some ways that for the last months i've been hearing a bunch of conservatives screaming and yelling, get your hands off my body. don't tell me what medical decisions to make. my body, my freedom when it comes to things like wearing a mask, when it comes so things like getting a vaccine. but funny enough, when it comes to women deciding what they're going to do with their lives and their bodies, i guess that does not -- that freedom does not apply to women. i'm also very concerned that, you know, look, people in my
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generation, in kaitlan's generation, we heard stories about women driving to mexico, getting back alley abortions, wire hangers. all those things for us are things we read in history books. you know, i'm concerned that there will be women driving to mexico to get back alley abortions or doing it in other ways. and so we're going to see how this plays out. >> yeah, and obviously who this predominantly affects are low-income women who would have to travel. even though it's difficult now to travel out of the state, but to take time off work. melanie, you cover capitol hill. what can you tell us about the effects we've clearly seen where the tilt of this court has gone after former president trump got three people confirmed to the court, three justices now, and what does this look like, do you think, now that that has had -- whether or not that's had an impact on this? >> reporter: the cove, the potential for roe v. wade to be overturned was one of the
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biggest concerns of abortion rights advocates. with this new 6-3 conservative majority on the supreme court. and it's also important to note the supreme court is going to rule at some point this year on a mississippi law that would ban abortions at 15 weeks. so that could be definitely something to look for. that is a ruling that could come out at some point next year which, of course, is a midterm election year. and this issue does tend to galvanize both sides of both the republican party and the democratic party. this is an issue that really galvanizes the base. but, look, politics aside, these are rulings that have enormous consequence. and even looking at what was done today, allowing this law in texas to go in effect, clinics are going to have to start turning women away who are trying to seek abortions. this is one of the largest states in the nation. and it's one of the strictest abortion laws in the country. so just enormous consequence both politically and for people on the ground as well. >> both of you stay with us. we also want to talk about another story that's happening on capitol hill, that's house
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minority leader kevin mccarthy with a not so veiled threat to communication companies asked to retain phone records by the committee investigating the january 6 attack. mccarthy is now saying in a statement that if these companies comply with the democrat order to turnover private information, they are in violation of a federal law that we should note, he's not saying which law, and subject to losing their ability to operate in the united states. he says if companies still choose to violate a federal law, a republican majority will not forget and will stand with americans to hold them fully accountable under the law. again, we should note, mccarthy's office has not told cnn's office which law he's talking about. anna, what's your reaction to what mccarthy has said on this? >> i think it's crazy. i mean, honestly, i can't believe he said it out loud. i can't believe he put it in writing, right. look, kevin mccarthy is probably on a first-name basis with every lobbyist for every telco company
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in the country. they're big donors, they're big donors in the political field. there's a lot of congressional regulation and oversight with telco companies. for him to be threatening, blackmailing a request from a duly impanelled committee in congress he has been boycotting and sabotaging from day one where he could have had appointments, would he have taken it seriously, look, i think it's kevin mccarthy saying, i don't care. i think i'm above ethics, congressional ethics and i think i'm above the law. so there is a law that he thinks these telco companies are violating, show us which one it is because no legal expert can come up with one. >> melanie, you covered capitol hill, the january 6 committee. you're deeply sourced all over. you know there are several republicans who are known to have communicated directly with the former president on january
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6 and beforehand here. what do you see going on with this? >> reporter: including kevin mccarthy. his conversation with trump that day is key to the committee. even though when cnn reported was not in the documents. two things. kevin mccarthy is clearly trying to show this is going to be a bat many for access. the investigative committee is trying to punt these things down, and it is not going to be easy necessarily for them to obtain documents. donald trump has also made clear he's going to try to exert executive privilege and fight the investigative committee's work at every single turn. and this is a familiar battle for congressional democrats who ran into similar walls when they were investigating and impeaching donald trump in the previous congress. and i think more broadly what is going on here with kevin mccarthy is he's trying to preempt and get ahead of whatever might come out of the investigation. republicans are trying to muddy the waters. as anna mentioned, they are not on the committee any more, so they are trying to use messaging
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at every turn that they can to try to essentially just get out ahead of what might be coming out of this knowing full well that them, donald trump and some of their colleagues may be ensnared in this probe and whatever comes out of it. >> we do have adam kinzinger and liz cheney on that committee. so there is republican representation. i think the overreaching question for any, you know, any common sense american has got to be what does this guy have to hide? what is he so afraid of that he's got to go to such measures and has been doing absolutely everything to be an obstacle to this january 6 commission that frankly every democracy believing, democracy supporting american should be interested in knowing the absolute truth and who was behind the january 6 attacks that cost so much -- that had such a huge cost to our democracy, to our police, to our
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law enforcement. if you are the law enforcement party, if blue lives matter, what are you doing in showing these mafioso type threats, blackmail? private companies to impede an investigation? it just makes no sense. >> anna navarro, melanie zanona, thanks so much for being with us today. >> thank you. louisiana communities battered by hurricane ida are now facing the possibility of going weeks without power in the sweltering summer heat. ida ravaged the power grid leaving more than a million customers without power. the entire city of new orleans is dark, but officials are hoping to get at least some of that power restored to the city today. cnn's gary tuchman is live in new orleans where there currently is no power for most of the city. gary, what are you seeing and what are you hearing from officials as of this morning? >> reporter: kaitlan, we don't know when the power is going to come back to new orleans, but there are bigger problems about
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100 miles south of us in the town of grand iowa. it sits on the southernmost tip of the state t. was cut off in louisiana when hurricane ida came through. we were able to get there on the ground and what we saw is not good. when you get your first look at the town of grand isle which sits in a barrier island on the southern tip of louisiana, you gasp. utter devastation. colorful gulf side homes destroyed. vehicles still under flood waters. most importantly, though, there are no known deaths or injuries here, which is clear evidence how seriously evacuation orders were taken. grand isle is a peaceful beautiful place and that's why it's so emotionally wrenching right now to see it decimated like this. it's small, between 700 and 800 people live here year round. most of the residents here are in the fishing industry or the oil industry. yes, there was lots of damage during katrina 16 years ago, but remember the eye of katrina passed over mississippi.
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this eye passed over louisiana. only a few miles to the west of this ferry town, he built this home with his family when he was 19 years old. he is now 58. he and his family evacuated and he feared what he would find when he came back. his worst fears now realized. >> with katrina we lost our front porches and steps, but the house was intact, roof was intact, everything was intact. >> reporter: his house, now like so many other homes, unlivable. >> i'm trying to get a few things. my wife wanted me to get some wedding video and stuff from our wedding and trying to find that right now. >> reporter: i'm so sorry for you guys. >> thank you. >> reporter: how are you coping with this right now? is it disbelief? >> we trust the lord and, you know, he gives and he takes away, so -- >> reporter: ricky says he doesn't plan to rebuild. after almost four decades living here, he and his wife will move to kentucky where they have family. most residents have not come
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back here. they will face similar decisions to rebuild or not to rebuild on this wonderful but very vulnerable barrier island. before we said good-bye to rick, he came up to me and he was holding a bible and he said, this bible had been in his family since 1873 and he found it. the nearly 150-year-old bible was soaking wet but he was so grateful that it wasn't missing or wasn't destroyed. kaitlan and john? >> it's so sad, gary, to see people hanging on to literally anything they can find in these moments. as officials say grand isle is unin habitable after the damage that ida did. thank you, gary, for joining us this morning. we have some new video in which gives a sense, i think, of the power of this hurricane. what you are seeing there, your eyes are not deceiving you, is a cow stuck into a tree, right. this is saint bernard parish where employees were trying to
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do what they could to get this cow out of the tree. obviously it was swept in by the flood waters. it just, a, shows the strength of the storm and how high the water was. i think also in some places, cows and trees is a sign of the apocalypse. >> it's heartbreaking. cows and horses, to see this, these are animals that normally are really good at weathering storms. it's just a sad image of what they're dealing with. they're literally using a saw to try to get this cow out of a tree is just a sign of what people in louisiana and now mississippi and alabama down south are dealing with as they are trying to overcome the aftermath of this storm. as gary was just showing there, it could be people's homes where they are clinging to a soaking wet bible as the only thing they have left to these community members trying to do everything that they can. >> i mean, the answer to the question is how do you get a cow out of a tree, is very carefully, which is what they were doing. >> yeah, you don't want that thing to kick you.
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>> one of the rescuers did say they were able to get the cow out. have you ever seen anything like that? i've never seen a cow stuck in a tree. >> i've never seen a cow stuck in a tree. >> there you go. up next we are going to talk about the fallout over president biden's afghanistan withdrawal putting democrats in a tough spot. a house democrat and combat veteran will join us now. plus school members who would rather quit than deal with parent outrage over masks. the controversy that has now cost mike richards his job, all the jobs he ever had at "jeopardy". the national story with global impacts. we're going to talk about what this all means and there's only one man who could put it in perspective, and that's don lemon. he'll be here.
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served two tours in afghanistan and is a key member on both the house intelligence and armed services committee. so, we know, congressman, that house republicans are expected to use that markup of the federal defense spending bill today to debate biden's afghanistan policy. what are you expecting from them? >> well, good morning, kaitlan. first of all, i think we should take a moment to say we woke up this morning and the war in afghanistan is over. after 20 years and countless lives, hundreds of thousands of americans served, we wake up this morning and the war in afghanistan is over. that is an astonishing accomplishment by the president. he said he was going to do this and he did it. he kept his word, and many other presidents weren't willing to do that. sitting here today, we're going to go into this national defense authorization act, defense budget markup, and there is going to be an awful lot of people proposing amendments for political reasons, who are going to be playing politics about this war, monday morning
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quarterbacking it. i can tell you i really wish a lot of people paid attention to this war over the last 20 years, had a lot of these politicians done that, maybe we wouldn't be sitting here 20 years later having spent $2 trillion, 2,400 american lives. i think we have to be very careful about folks who suddenly show an interest in this who haven't for many years. >> i remember a lot of those republicans being very quiet when former president trump was inviting the taliban to camp david to negotiate. we should note a summit he later called off. but, congressman, you heard the president's speech yesterday talking about this very defiant and defending his withdrawal overall. but he also called the exit a, quote, extraordinary success. would you agree with that? >> well, you know, several things can be true here. the american people, i know, are sophisticated enough to understand we can look at the fact that we airlifted 124,000 people out in a little over two weeks. really the most extraordinary
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airlift in american history. that is true. we saved 120 plus thousand lives and these are americans, these are afghans, and these are allied individuals and citizens as well. that is extraordinary. i think we should all praise our department of defense, our soldiers who had had great personal risk. we saw last week we lost 13 of our best and brightest perform this mission. we have concerns of how we got to this point. afghans climbing aboard c-17s i'm concerned deeply about. i'm a member of congress. i have an obligation to ask questions and not to be a rubber stamp of any administration whether republican or democrat. that's what i'm intending to do. >> there are questions you can have about the 100 or 200 americans still in afghanistan that the pentagon says do want to come home. have you heard a plan about getting them home and getting
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them home soon potentially? >> well, i've heard the out lines of plan, but i'm not sure we have a full plan in place. i'm going to be pushing the administration to present that action, joining with several of my colleagues to send a letter recommending that certain steps be taken. and it's no secret that i've been pushing the administration for weeks to extend the august 31st deadline. i thought it was important we extended that deadline because i knew we weren't going to be able to get everybody out. the president is the commander in chief. he had to balance multiple things and risks. he made the decision to pull out on a deadline, now we have to focus on what we do to go forward and get the remaining american citizens out and our afghan partners, and that's the task before us. i'm going to be working with all my colleagues in congress in a full effort to make that happen. >> and just quickly, is that a letter that you plan to send to the administration today? >> we're going to probably send it today or tomorrow. it's going to be in the next
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couple of days. we're trying to gather additional supporters for it. we're relying on our group, working group working on this issue many months, evacuation issue. pounding the drum, started evacuation. that's going to continue as long as it needs to continue so long as we have american citizens and afghan partners in that country, we're going to be working this issue. >> congressman, one quick question before we go. chief of staff ron klain said they don't plan to recognize the taliban government as legitimate any time soon. do you think they should recognize the taliban as a legitimate form of government in afghanistan? >> what i think is we need to be careful about what we do and don't do with the taliban right now. as long as we have american citizens in afghan and partners in that country, these folks are at tremendous risk right now. the focus needs to be getting them out. we get them out, we get them to safety, and the reality is it's just true that we're going to have to rely on the taliban to
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some extent to allow safe passage for those american citizens to get to the airport, to get to the border to get out of the country. that is just the reality. we can't do that successfully without some level of coordination. so i think we get our folks out, then we can have the larger conversation about how we're going to engage in the future if at all with the taliban. >> it's a big question. congressman jason crow, thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you. up next, how ugly mask battles -- ugly battles over mask mandates, i should say, are making some school board members quit. and the nfl head coach said the why part out loud about covid vaccines and cutting players. tired of clean clothes that just don't smell clean? what if your clothes could stay fresh for weeks? now they can! this towel has already been used and it still smells fresh. pour a cap o of downy unstopabls into your washing machine before each load and enjoy fresher smelling laundry for up to 12-weeks. usaa is made for the safe pilots.
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>> as you can see fists are now flying, all of this on live television. fists are flying. unbelievable what we are seeing here today. >> we know who you are. no more masks. >> that is just a taste of some of the hostility you face serving on your local school board or town council these days. meetings that devolve into these shoutin shouting masks and covid. a growing number of board members are questioning whether it's worth it to serve on these boards and some have already quit. joining me is rick grotehaus who resigned from a school board on august 15th along with two other members. why did you quit, rick? >> hi, good morning, john. thanks for hosting this conversation. appreciate it very much. the question why we quit, it's not that we wanted to exit the
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school board. we would rather stay and engage in the important work in working for our kids. it's at some point in time, you have to question, you know, whether it's possible to continue that work. and sometimes you have to take a more constructive action to send a message to your community that, hey, something serious is going on here. it's time to take a closer look. and is this what we want to have happening at the leadership level for our district? and when you can no longer engage in that important work of helping our kids learn and preparing them for the future because it's gotten to a point where you're not allowed to and there's no conversation that can take place, you've got to take a different kind of step and step forward and say, hey, community, this is what's really going on. is this what we really want? and let the community start to sort that out through the process. >> we played some different video clips of school board meetings around the country that just got violent. if not violent, violent rhetoric and shouting back and forth. >> yes. >> we did not have video from one of your meetings there.
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i'm curious if that is something you have experienced either in public like that or privately. >> sure. we didn't get to the point of fist to cuffs. but was there lots of vitriol and shouting and disrespectful behavior? yes, that did occur, both by a faction of our community, but also by some of our school board members as well, engaging and promoting that kind of behavior. and that's difficult. that's not fun to deal with at all, of course, but again, that's not the reason why we were -- decided to resign. that stuff you have to deal with sometimes. it's a different kind of level today at our local levels. but when things are so divisive and so disruptive in that way, when we've lost the ability to be respectful and engage in civility and it gets to that point that you can't work with each other any more at all, again, a different kind of
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action needs to take place and look deeper, you know. the whole issue of masks and those kind of things, they're surface level distractions trying to keep us from getting down to the important issues we need to deal with and understand what's going on and how we can change that. we want to, as school boards, to be able to be talking about and planning for how do we help all kids learn successfully. how do we help prepare kids for their future, which is very different than the few how we've grown up. they have challenges they're going to inherit and they need a skill set and the ability to deal with all those kind of things. h how do we create a respectful and civil society. those are the things we want to get at. more importantly, we have to ask ourselves in our society, is the kind of behavior you showed there on that clip, is that acceptable any more? can we tcontinue to say that is okay? >> i can answer that. no, it's not. the losers here are the kids.
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and, rick, i hope your message is being heard. i hope it has the effect you want because i also believe it's a loss if communities are losing people like you in positions of leadership and positions of power. but thank you for joining us. thank you for speaking out on this. rick grothaus. >> thank you. so, taking a turn here, are game show hosts held to a higher standard in the united states than members of congress? we're joined by a man i hold to very high standards, don lemon will be here next. plus, anti-vaxxers need not apply. what jobs are demanding of applicants in the pandemic. ayda♪ ♪ ♪ monday, payday♪ ♪ tuesday, payday♪ ♪ wednesday, payday♪ ♪ thursday, payday♪ ♪ friday, payday♪ ♪ saturday, payday♪ ♪ sunday, payday♪ ♪ ♪ payday, payday♪ ♪
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mike richards went from being the executive producer of
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"jeopardy" to the replacement for alex trebek, back to being the executive producer. now he is leaving the program entirely. this has put emotion after revelation and derogatory comments he made on a podcast several years ago. when this news broke, cnn's jake tapper tweeted, quote, we have higher standards for game show hosts than we do for members of congress. definitely a sign of a healthy society with its priorities in order. joining us now is don lemon, host of don lemon tonight, and author of "this is the fire." good morning. >> was that -- >> it's so unlike jake tapper to be sarcastic, but i think there was sarcasm in there. >> there was truth to that statement. >> right. what does it say to you about how this has gone back and forth where he was being named the h host, the job of a lifetime, back to executive producer after the comments were unearthed?
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>> i don't think anybody in their right mind would think he should still be executive producer of the show he tried to rig to be the host of and there were complaints, you know. i think for a while, you know, he was sort of in object security. he lived in a bubble because he wasn't front facing, right. he wasn't on the television. he wasn't a public figure. i would watch him on the game show network -- >> "wheel of fortune"? >> no, he does pyramid. so i would watch him as the host of pyramid dick cheney >> how off do you watch the game show network? >> a lot. i have to dial out. i can't watch news 24/7 any more. it's too much. i can't be that inundated. i would watch him. i thought he was a pretty good host. pretty much he was an obscure figure. then once he got to the spotlight, it's hard to be able to operate in a system that you had, you know, were able to operate with impunity in your little sort of, you know, you can reign as king in that
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system. he wasn't able to do that any more. his past caught up with him. >> i've been fascinated by the discussion over "jeopardy" this last month in the universal global importance, it seems to have taken for many people, who the next host will be of this game show. the question here is, you know, jake's tweet raises an important question here. one is, you know, we are -- a decision has been made about someone who hosts a game show where as you have people in congress who do and say things that are way more offensive. >> right. >> than what he did. although, by the way, i think what he did is certainly -- he doesn't need to be running a game show or hosting a game show when there are clearly better people who can run it and host it. what does it say in general about us, though? >> i think everything has become politicized and accountability doesn't seem to matter any more because everyone -- listen, the last administration especially, you know, every single criticism of the last administration was couched in, well, they're trying
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to cancel me. this is a political witch-hunt. rather than people being held accountable. the last administration, the last president, every day seemed to be a crisis, every single day of the presidency seemed to be a crisis or them trying to spin something into something it wasn't or saying something was a witch-hunt. when it wasn't. people need to be held accountable. we are operating in a new paradigm. people talk about cancel culture. i think it's cancel culture as lavar burton said it is confidence culture, not cancel culture. you cannot be a dumb man as we are in this society and continue to operate, well, oh, i remember when my wife did this. i was watching bill maher the other night and i was shocked at the conversation he and andrew sullivan were having about cancel culture and about, about i thought we were supposed to strive to live in a color blind society. no, we don't strive to live in a
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color blind society. we strive to live in a society that sees other people's color and their ethnicity and celebrates it. that celebrates women and women having a position and equity and equality in society. we don't want to go back to the '50s. i felt like they needed a new operating system, system upgrade like we have on our iphones. they sounded like, hey, kid, get off my lawn. i just remembered betty and wilma. they sounded like neanderthals. yes, things have changed, guys. we can't do what we used to do any more. you can't do what you used to do any more. people were able to operate a certain way and the system was working for them, that system no longer works for them because people aren't standing for it. women aren't standing for it. you cannot be a lug head, a knuckle dragger. just doesn't happen. >> if you're on a game show, you don't need that controversy. you don't need the mess when there are a billion other people you could have as the host -- >> like dr. sanjay gupta who was
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great, by the way, on "jeopardy." >> not to slight anderson cooper who you think is great. >> of course. >> i'm going to say that on your behalf. >> i love anderson. he has 50 jobs. give a job to somebody. >> we want to ask you about something else, which is a new thing we are now dealing with, i know you're a football fan, and the head coach of the jaguars says whether or not players are vaccinated is -- it's not the sole reason, but it is playing a factor into cutting people from their roster. >> as well they should. i i've said this a long time ago, they should. you don't want to get vaccinated, don't come to work. if you don't get vaccinated here, what happens? you can't come into this building. >> right. >> right. and, listen, i know it's different here. for some jobs in this particular industry, maybe one doesn't have to come into the building. but in order to be a quarterback, one has to be on the field and you have to be in close proximity to other people. if you want to be a running back, full back, whatever it is, tight end, you have to be on the field. if you can't be on the field and you're putting your team in
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jeopardy, and your teammates as well, you perhaps should not be there. the team, the jaguars are doing exactly what they should do. i think cam newton is possibly or probably suffering the consequence of that right now. matt jones, right, alabama. probably going to be the quarterback. i think the teams are right. i'm sorry. people are it's my freedom, it's my whatever. look at what's happening to people in louisiana, where my family is. people can't get into the hospital who need treatment, they're in dire situations. many people who are in the hospital, the unvaccinated are taking up the resources and the beds that people who have followed the rules need right now. >> yeah. >> so i think if you don't play by the rules, if you don't do what responsible people are doing in this society, then you cannot, you should not be able to operate as if you are a vaccinated person and as if you are following the rules. >> and being in the nfl is your job. it is like going to a workplace. you're in a locker room.
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you're on buses. you're in very close quarters on planes with a lot of your teammates. >> you're also accountable to the fans. >> yeah. >> you're accountable to the people, just as in any business, you're accountable to the stakeholders and stockholders. same thing in the nfl or professional sports. you're accountable to the fans and you should be setting an example for the fans as well. you don't want to get vaccinated, it is your right, it is your freedom. but not here. >> don lemon, game show fan, i also happen to know a very good game show contestant you are, don lemon. >> who me? yes. did i ask you about the time they asked me to be on celebrity "jeopardy"? before they could get the request out was no, i do not want to be -- >> you are a multiple winner of the cnn quiz show. you are a two-time winner of the cnn quiz show. >> "jeopardy" is now searching for an executive producer. >> i would love to do that job. i would love to host "jeopardy," but that is a very of it job. no one can fill alex trebek's shoes. someone will come along and do
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the show, but alex trebek was tremendous. speaking of the game show network, did you ever see the old game shows that alex trebek did before "jeopardy" with the crazy sweaters? >> it's amazing. >> it's amazing. it's different -- >> the '70s, it's a shame we're not back in the '70s. don lemon, thank you very much. >> thank you. good to see both of you. >> you can watch don lemon at 10:00 tonight. >> possibly in a sweater. >> and every night wearing a 1970s sweater. >> and i feel like i should be serving ice cream with this. >> you look good. >> candy man. help wanted, vaccination required. the growing trend in job postings now next. and the fast moving wildfire that is bearing down on an international tourist destination. it's time for the biggest sale of the year, on the new sleep number 360 smart bed. it helps keep you effortlessly comfortable by sensing your movements and automatically responding to both of you.
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so, want a new job? make sure you're vaccinated. cnn chief business correspondent christine romans here with that.
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romans. >> hi, guys. you know, there are help wanted signs all across the country, but it's help wanted with an asterisk. more employers are requiring job applicants be vaccinated. job postings for vaccinated only applicants soared 90% in august. job site indeed noting the trend across a wide range of sectors. software development, education sales. after months of reluctance to require the vaccine, patience is running out. a few factors here. the evidence is clear. the vaccine is safe and effective. full fda approval of that pfizer vaccine has pushed some companies toward now requiring it. and an unvaccinated work force is simply bad for business. the delta variant twice as likely to land unvaccinated workers in the hospital. that hospital stay is disruptive for the company and costly. the vaccine is, of course, effectively free. the stay in the hospital costs anywhere from $22,000, medicare data, to $50,000 if you're on a ventilator. many companies are mandating vaccines to return to their offices. for many a vaccine mandate simply a logical step to
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minimize hospitalization costs, quarantines and expensive testing regimes. now, it may be easier to mandate new employees, right, be vaccinated than current ones. companies are still struggling, you guys, with how to get their hesitant staffs to get the shot. delta airlines trying something unique, adding money, adding a cost, a premium to its health insurance plans so that it can eat up the cost and try to disin disincentivize so many unvaccinated workers. >> makes a lot of sense. christine romans, thanks so much for that. here is what else to watch today.
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one of the large he felt wildfires in california history is forcing thousands of residents from their homes. the caldor fire has scorched nearly 200,000 acres as the massive blaze races toward lake tahoe, destroying hundreds of structures and putting a lot of lives at risk. cnn's dan simon is live in the south lake tahoe area with more. dan, what are you seeing and how bad is it getting? >> reporter: good morning, kaitlan. well, the fire is just a few short miles from reaching this
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community. crews doing everything they can to beat back the flames. the problem, though, is the wind and this area remains under a red flag warning until late tonight. fire crews racing to contain the caldor fire as the blaze is now turning and threatening parts of nevada. >> we are using all of our resources, everything we have at our disposal. >> reporter: firefighters battled throughout the night to protect homes and businesses in the vacation enclave south lake tahoe. dense smoke leaving the area completed deserted. they protected homes as the flames came down the mountain side. residents preparing for the worst fearing they will lose everything. what's going through your mind? >> oh, everything really, you know. our whole town, our jobs, everything. just saying bye to our town possibly. >> reporter: dry conditions ask
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heavy winds have fueled the caldor fire several days. so far it's burned nearly 200,000 acres. california is taking every measure to try to contain the caldor fire with planes dropping retardant chemicals and hundreds of fire trucks and water trucks in the area ready to help. the state has also deployed thousands of firefighters and national guard troops to battle the blaze. all residents and tourists in el dorado county and surrounding areas have been ordersed to evacuate. >> when you're going through the house, you're going through the boxes. okay, what can i leave behind and what do i have to take, you know. we have six kids, and so it was very hard to say, okay, do i keep their preschool pictures. >> reporter: the more than 53,000 residents scrambled to pack and get out as quickly as possible, causing traffic jambs that left roadways backed up for miles. >> i've never seen anything like this before. i've never seen tahoe be deserted and empty before. >> reporter: some evacuees forced to set up camp at this shelter in carson city, nevada. >> i got the clothes on my back right now and the important
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papers. that's it. i'm worried to death. >> reporter: the caldor fire has been and remains the number one fire fighting priority in the nation, so this is not about resources. this is about the wind and dry fuel and the historic drought we've been experiencing in california which, of course, scientists say is driven by climate change. kaitlan? >> they're worried how to control because those are very big questions. dan simon, thank you very much. and cnn's coverage continues right now. thank you for joining us this morning and letting me fill in. >> you'll be back. >> tomorrow. very good wednesday morning to you. i'm jim sciutto. breaking overnight, what could be the beginning of the end for roe v. wade in this country. as of midnight last night, a n

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