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few months at the rate we're going. >> thanks for being with us. "new day" continues right now. amidst grim new records nationwide, a bright spot, moderna's coronavirus vaccine more than 94% effective according to early results. >> we want to get doses to people starting in december. >> there is hope on the horizon but we have to make it through this winter. >> if we have to wait until january 20th to start that planning, it puts us behind. >> the president is expected to issue a formal order bringing the total number of troops in each country to 2,500. >> we need to keep sufficient force there is to gather intelligence, to strike terrorist cells. >> this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> this is "enough dnew day."
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this morning the coronavirus is worse than it's ever been. more than 73,000 americans are hospitalized with coronavirus this morning. that is the highest total ever. we'll tell you why it's such a dangerous level and rate of growth. there's never been a greater need for leadership in this country and a greater abdication than we're seeing right now. the president is refusing to coordinate or discuss the response with the man who won the election. and now joe biden says more people will lose lives. >> more people will die. they say they have this warp speed program that they dealt with getting vaccines and how to distribute it. if we have to wait until january 20th to start that planning it puts us behind over a month, month and a half. >> there's just no reason to wait. more than 166,000 new cases reported overnight. that's the most ever reported on a monday.
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>> and this morning we're also learning more about the republican party's effort to try to invalidate president-elect biden's victory. georgia's republican secretary of state said he has been pressured by fellow republicans to reverse trump's loss in that state by throwing out some legitimate votes. we will speak to the reporter who broke this story later this hour. joining us now to discuss the pandemic and the challenges ahead, we have cnn's chief medical correspondent and dr. carlos del rio, the associate dean of hemory's schol of medicine and contributor to the moderna vaccine trials. first let's just see where we are this morning. in terms of hospitalizations just so people understand how we're ticking up every sickle day, we are at the highest number of hospitalizations, 73,000, and we have gone up basically by a thousand every single day. how do you assess where we are right now?
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>> well, alisyn, this is just terrible. it's very scary for most of us. hospitals don't have a lot of surge capacity. they usually are operating at 90, 95% capacity. when you start having more and more patients with covid comes in, it not only strains the system but it makes it hard to take care of people with other diseases. if you show up with a heart attack or a stroke or you need an elective surgery for cancer, you may not get it because the beds are taken over by patients with covid. it increases mortality from other diseases and, therefore, we see an excess of mortality in our country. the other issue, quite frankly that the hospital staff is tired and you don't have enough staff. hospital surge capacity is about, you know, space, stuff and staff. you can make space, more icu beds, you can buy stuff but you cannot find staff. qualified nurses and qualified
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physicians are simply impossible to get. we're having a problem in many parts of the country because of that. >> this is not a distraction, this is not the future, this is happening now, sanjay. we'll speak to doctors in north and south dakota who is zero icu beds. zeerr zero. officials in missouri and el paso are saying the same thing. we're seeing the hospitalization rate nationally rise at 2,000, 3,000 a day. it's just unsustainable, particularly in some of these more rural areas. >> i think that may surprise people a bit. i think there was this idea that, look, this pandemic was happening in these progressive waves around the country and the northeast and the west and the southeast that rural america because of lower population density, whatever the reason may be, will be less effective. but we can see now, we talk about the dakotas, talk overall about these areas, we saw the case rates have gone up in these
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areas but now the death rates as dr. del rio has been mentioning have also gone up. if you look at the graphs, rural america, sort of the highest overall per hundred thousand death rates in america. so they did not escape this. they also have fewer resources. north dakota has i think 20 to 25 icu beds total for the state. so they've already been talking about sending patients out of state, to different parts of the region. that's what's happening now in middle of november. they've still got two to three months of this particularly tough time. >> and whether or not, dr. del rio, it's rural or a more populated place like new jersey, we are now seeing governors having to take matters into their own hands. as we all know, there's no guidance coming out of the white house other than strange guidance from scott atlas, who has the president's here, so
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washington state, oklahoma, michigan, a patchwork across the country of states having to do stricter regulations. you know, let me just play for you what the west virginia governor is now telling the people of that state. listen to this. >> how do i feel about the mask? i don't like them. i don't want to wear them. i am donald trump's best friend. i absolutely stand with guns and for life, for no new taxes, for balanced budgets but more than anything, i want us to get more control, more control over this terrible viruss that's just eating us alive. i want us to absolutely wear a mask. >> however he twists himself into a pretzel, he gets there by the end of saying that now it's
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time for everybody to wear a mask. this is very delayed but he gets there. at the same time, one more thing, stanford university is distancing itself from dr. scott ellis. you've never heard that from drf dr. scott ellis's mouth. he's talked about all sorts of things but not how to keep doctors safe right now. >> he's a radiologist, not an infectious disease expert. he has been advocating for letting the virus run loose. he was convinced very few people would get sick, very few people would die and he's prove i don't know -- proven to be wrong. but furthermore not only is he doing that, instead of saying i was wrong, he's telling people to rise up against the governor who is instituting sensible measures. he actually asking exactly the
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opposite of what we need in public health. i would congratulate the governor of west virginia and i would call on the absence of better leadership and in the vacuum of leadership, i would call for all our governors, republican or democrat, to come together and create a national strategy. we need a national mask mandate, we need every state in this country to have a mask mandate. we need sensible policies and national policies. we cannot continue to have this hodgepodge. that's not how you fight a pandemic. >> it is remarkable seeing the distance stanford is putting between itself and drcf dr. atl. >> the moderna trials have shown very high levels of success right now but it will be some
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time before people start getting that vaccine or the pfizer vaccine. end of this year for a few people, middle of next year for the masses. the question is how do we get through the next three, four, five six months? we're starting to see governors step into that void and take these enough actions. now, it's in the face of these extraordinarily dreary new statistics and devastating new numbers but there are new actions being taken in california, in michigan. we saw the mask mandate in west virginia, even in iowa. we're now seeing some of these governors take action. what do you think the actions are that people should be considering? what are some of these measures that we should be looking for? >> el witwell, the first thing have to remember is there are actions that can have significant benefits to this entire trajectory of the pandemic. styles the sentiment is it's
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contagious voir ruirus, we're powerless. that's not the case. it when do you take the action? these communities start to red line and they get into a really bad place, where you were obviously in the northeast. arizona, i like to give an example of communities in arizona. after sort of the pause sort of time period, they opened up early and they had a significant, significant increase, 151% increase in overall coronavirus cases within a short time, within a few weeks. and they did three things at that point. they basically had a mask mandate as carlos was just talking about, they stopped large public gatherings and they reduced or greatly limited occupancy in some institutions like bars. in some of these cases what you'll find is you don't need to shut down, you just need to reduce maximum occupancy, pause that's when we find now the
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virus is most likely to spread, so restaurants, hotels, bars, places like that where people sometimes cluster indoors. if you can stop that clustering it makes a huge difference. also, i'll put on the list testing. i still cannot believe where we are with testing in this country, that we haven't created more tests. carlos and i were colleagues at emory as well. i was in the operating room all day yesterday. at some point i texed carloted because he is sort of the coronavirus guy. i said we're about to operate on somebody and this has been happening since the beginning. got a cat scan, i'm about to do a crane yiotomy and we could no get a covid test. i come home at the end of the
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day yesterday, i'm a little worried, did i potentially bring this home? i was very careful but middle of november, i'm letting my frustration come out a little bit. that's still happening at our hospital and hospitals around the country. >> sanjay, that's an incredible anecdote to know that you, as you're going into brain surgery on the front lines in the hospital, you can't get the test. i mean, all of us have been frustrated with the delays but the idea that you're not getting it right there at the exact moment that is most critical is just astonishing that we're still here. to end on a good note, dr. del rio, you have been involved in the moderna vaccine research and study. there was all sorts of excitement when the news broke yesterday it was 94.5% effective. what now? what's next? >> what's next is we now have a potentially two effective
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vaccines but vaccines don't work, vaccination does. now we have to get it to people. and getting it to people is not going to be an easy task. you're going to vaccinate in the next six to eight months you need to vaccinate 250 million people need to fwt vaccinated. that'sing if to require a massive strategy and to work very closely to make this happen. there is a report from the national academy of med sen suggesting how this vaccine should be out there in phases, starting with first responders, the elderly living in traditional settings and then moving on until you get to general population, which is phase four. that will probably not happen until styles in the early summer. the reality is we simply cannot wait for the vaccine to be rolled out. in the best of circumstances the first vaccination will start
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four to six week from today probably. a thousand people or more dying every day, we cannot wait for a vaccine. the simple public health measures of a national mask mandate, limiting places like bars, restaurants, hotels, places of worship and creating sensible policieswe'll decreate crease in mortality until we have a vaccine. we want people to be alive and healthy so they can get the vaccine. >> dr. del rio, thank you for the work you're doing. sanjay, thank you as always. >> so this morning, mitch mcconnell breaks with the president. oh my. no, not over the election that happened two weeks ago. still no stand there from mitch mcconnell. we'll tell you on what key issue he's now creating this space and the implications. that's next. did have
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. so new this morning, "the new york times" reports that president donald trump asked senior aides about his options for an offensive strike on iran's main nuclear site. it comes as sources tell cnn that the u.s. military commanders d-- that u.s. militay
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commanders are anticipating the president will order a further withdrawal of troops from afghanistan and iraq before he leaves office. cnn's barbara starr is live. let's start with the troop draw down. >> reporter: the secretary-general nato weighed in on all of this and warned the price could be very high, in his words, if troops leave afghanistan too soon. but u.s. commanders already have been told by the white house to start planning for this troop drawdown, both from iraq and afghanistan, leaving just 2,500 troops in each country. look at what is at stake here. in iraq, there's about 3,000 troops, bringing that down to 2,500. but in afghanistan, perhaps even more critical for that fragile government, there are about 4,500 u.s. troops and the president wants to bring that down to 2,500.
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the key question in ofafghanist if this is carried out five days before the president leaves office, what leverage will be left against the taliban bwhich have not lived up to their agreement. >> so we have david sanger with his reporting that the president was asking military and national security leaders about options of military strike on iran as major nuclear facility. david reported that the military and the advisers there not too hot on this idea at all. why? >> well, i think it fair to say the pentagon is not looking to start another war to begin with. but let's look at the map and what's really at stake here. this is a place inside central iran. they are building an underground
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sentra fuj facility. you are talking about manned bombers, pilots in the air flying deep into iranian airspace, repeated bombing strikes and that will be as a starting point very, very tough to get into that heavily defe defended air space. our sources are telling us is how iran might retalliateretali. ran has been 3,000 ballistic missile that they could fire in retaliation all over the middle east and really put u.s. troops in the region at risk. alisyn. >> barbara, thank you very much for that reporting obviously come back to us with anything else. the reporting of president donald trump's troop withdrawal
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received a rare response from mcconnell. you don't often hear majority leader mitch mcconnell braeeaki from something that president donald trump wants to do. does his opinion hold sway with president donald trump? >> in these matters, i'm not so sure. i do think republicans, particularly in the senate, have been willing to push back on trump when it comes to specific national security issues, bucking him when he makes some of these more impullisive moves. i suspect it's because republicans believe they have more standing with the republican base to push back on the president on those issues compared to, say, the election and, you know, the sort of legitimacy of the united states election, which i think tells
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you a lot. but i don't know that it much of a profile in courage for mitch mcconnell or anyone else on the republican side in the senate. >> it hard to put those words in the same sentence at this upon, not when republicans are refusing to acknowledge the outcome of the election in any real way. i'm going to break from tradition and cover the presidential transition. president-elect joe biden is going to make personnel announcements or making clr sea some of the people they'll bring in. cedric richmond, jen o'malley dillon. what does all this tell you? what does it mean? >> biden is surrounding himself with his closest allies. it makes a lot of sense he would bring his winning campaign manager, jen o'malley dillon into the white house. she's proven her ability to
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manage a massive campaign on a lodgi logicistal level and how he needed to position himself as a center left democrat in particularly the general election with something that i think is going to benefit him going into the white house. biden is going to face a really tough task of managing the democratic base and trying to figure out how and if he can even work with republicans. i do think you're seeing him trying to bring in people who have washington experience, who have proven they're able to make the tough decisions about where he's going to position himself in terms of policy as a president and i think that that's in keeping with joe biden. he likes to surround himself with people who are very seasoned. it's a really stark contrast to president donald trump obviously, who has repeatedly
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surrounded himself with people who don't really know a whole lot with washington or a whole lot about managing a big and complex organizations like a white house. >> abby, we really need your help figuring out with senator jails leankford is on whether o not president-elect biden should be getting security briefings. he's taken multiple sides. here is what he said last week about how he would step in, it was that important that joe biden get these briefings. listen to this. >> there's nothing wrong with vice president biden getting the briefings to be able to prepare himself so that he can be ready. there is no loss from him getting the briefings and if that's not occurring by friday, i'll step in and push to say this needs to occur so that people can be ready.
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>> he said if that's not occurring by friday, last friday, i will step in and push. i guess he changed his mind and over the weekend, here's what he told newsmax. >> i'm not in a hurry to get joe biden this information. it's interesting how the media is twisting this term "step in." >> i will step in to push or this needs to occur. it's not the step in part, it's the friday part. he was the one who gave a deadline for that. he said if it's not done by friday, then i will step in. this does not make any sense. but i think we should just be really clear here. senator lankford is responding to the fact that he made a mistake by saving what he really felt and crossing president donald trump. and his walk back is just a
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reflection of the fact that republicans know that they can't give voice to this idea that the transition should start immediately, that joe biden is the president-elect, even though all of the facts indicate that that is the case and he's walking back because he is afraid of the blow back that i'm sure he received in the days between wednesday and when he walked those comments back just a couple of days later. but, yeah, i mean, i didn't say that joe biden needed to have briefings by friday. james lankford said that. the media didn't say that he would step in, senator lankford said that. it obvious that this is clearly a sign of how much sway president donald trump has over his party. and it's only getting worse. you're seeing more and more senators realizing that they can't speak up for the truth in this particular case. >> i promised more than two sides. i want to deliver because yesterday he took yet another position. very quickly, now senator
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lankford says i did step in, i did talk to them on friday, my staff has been involved, we talked through the process, i talked through what i see is a good process. he says i'm not going to explain the process, he went on to say, but there's no way they can ascertain gsa is not the electors. there's yet another side. >> just a quick point to where he said all this. the comments he made walking it back were on a news network called news max, which the president has been mushing. i think republicans see it as sort of a direct conduit to president donald trump. so it didn't surprise me that he tried to downplay his on comments on that program because he knew by seaing it on in max hooves sending a clae as an alternative to fox news. >> i think fox news is very
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genero generous. >> i love that he's saying somebody is twisting his words here. someone pressed play on a tape recorder. abby, thank you very much. >> the recount by hand continues in georgia but the secretary of state there says he is being pressured by fellow republicans to find ways to try to get rid of some vote for president-elect biden. the roarer who broke that story joins us next. when i was in high schoo this was the theater i came to quite often. the support we've had over the last few months has been amazing. it's not just a work environment. everyone here is family. if you are ready to open your heart and your home, check us out. we thought for sure that we were done. and this town said: not today. ♪
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. this morning the secretary of state of georgia, a republican, is making some stunning accusations. he says that senator lindsey graham, the republican chair of the senate judiciary committee suggested he find a way to dispose of legally cast ballots to help donald trump in the recount in that state. >> he asked if the ballots could be matched back to the voters and i got the sense it implied that then you could throw those out, really look at the counties with the highest frequent error of signatures.
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it was just an implication that look hard and see how many ballots you could throw out. >> look hard and see how many ballots you could throw out. so that interview was with wolf blitzer. it followed an article in "the washington post" by amy gardner who broke that story. thank you for being with us. >> happy to be here. >> first talk to me about brad raffensperger. he is the republican secretary of state in georgia overseeing the election there and also the recouldnnt that's happening rig now. what's on his mind? >> he's angry and frustrated and exasperated by being under attack from fellow republicans. he's a conservative republicans who worked his way up in georgia politics, he was a still councilman and then a member of the state legislature. he's a businessman, a wealthy concrete manufacturer.
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and so he's feeling really under attack by his fellow republicans who have -- [ no audio [ no audio ] instead he's trying to get through this recount and do it methodically and do it accurately and ethically. >> so talk to me about the specific claim that he's making. i think no one disputes that senator graham called him twice. i'm not sure why the senator from south carolina isle kai caa secretary of state in georgia who is conducting a recall. you can ask why that's even above the board in begin with. talk to me about that graham implied that he looked for ways to throw out legal votes. >> i think you hit the nail on the head that even the fact that
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a republican senator from a neighboring state who is chairman of senate judiciary committee called in to georgia to talk to the secretary of state about the recount raises really crucial questions about, you know, propriety. so what senator graham was asking secretary of state raffensperger about was the signature matching laws in georgia. in georgia, you have to sign your ballot and then that signature gets matched against a signature on file with the elections folks in your county. senator graham was asking senator raffensperger how that process woshs, is it possible whether county election officials with bias might accept signatures and would it be possible to look at counties with higher rate of rejeks of signatures and actually throw o out all of them.
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>> secretary graham half denies it and says that's not what i meant at all. if the secretary felt threatened by that, he's got a problem. that's what senator graham said. throwing out votes or the implication of it is a remarkable thing. the secretary says he feels threatened. what does he mean by that? >> well, he's been threatened. he and his wife have both received death threats via text messaging and social media. he won't say what kind of security they have in place but he's a wealthy businessman who lives in the northern suburbs of atlanta and my understanding is that protections have been put in place. that's pretty scary, especially when it affects your loved one, your wife. in addition, his wife is recovering from coronavirus currently and he and his entire senior management team as they oversee this recount are in qua quarantine in their respective
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homes. there's a lot going on in his life right now. >> it's unclear to me why republicans aren't thanking the guy for calling for this hand recount which turned up a net gain of votes for donald trump in floyd county. they found votes that hadn't been counted and added 800 votes to donald trump's total. you would think they would be thanking him for that. but the secretary, in addition to having words for graham and the overall environment has a thing for outgoing congressman doug collins, who is overseeing the trump recount effort in that state. what's going on there? >> collins has had some choice words for raffensperger. he's the one who said he capitulated to democrats by not leaning in to the accusations of voter fraud. he has tweeted about raffensperger being incompetent as a secretary of state. i think that really kind of pushed raffensperger over the line because he prides himself on his competency and on the ethics that he's bringing to this effort. he has defended the local
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election officials whom republicans have accused basically of being criminals, of stealing this election for joe biden. and in response to that, raffensperger tullactually had press conference last week in which he surrounded himself by local election officials and celebrated their hard work during this trying circumstances. i think he's what it. he wants trump to win and he's a republican and i think he's frustrated he's had to marginalize himself within the party in order to do what he believes is the right thing. i also think he has a message for the republican party, which is what they're doing is not smart as far as the senate runoff races on january 5th. he thinks they are dividing the republican party and republican electorate. some of the republicans are trying to undermine public faith in the voting machines that are in use in georgia made by a colorado company called dominion. can you already see republican voters in georgia on social media saying i don't know if i should even use these machines,
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which is not smart when you've got a really important runoff that is going to decide the balance of power in the u.s. senate in the coming weeks. >> thank you so much for joining us and talking about this reporting. i have to say brad raffensperger committing the sin of trying to run a fair election in the state of georgia now. what remarkable time. thanks for being with us. >> so this morning moderna is the second company to report more than 90% success with this coronavirus vaccine. we're going to speak to a doctor taking part in that trial while fighting to save lives. serena: it's my 4:10, no-excuses-on-game-day migraine medicine. it's ubrelvy. for anytime, anywhere migraine strikes without worrying if it's too late, or where i am.
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positive sex of iresults of its. new jersey and so many others are seeing record numbers in terms of new case, hospitalizations and deaths. let's bring in dr. chris purnel, a physician in new jersey and a volunteer in the moderna vaccine trial and she recently lost her own father to coronavirus. dr. purnell, we're so sorry for the loss of your dad. >> thank you. thank you, i appreciate it. >> i mean, we really wanted to talk to you because you're somebody who has now seen this virus from every side. i mean, you have lost a loved one, you are a doctor in new jersey, and you're a volunteer for the vaccine. so before we get to those other two things, with your own dad i know that he was 78. he was healthy, i think, before this. he admitted for something unrelated to the hospital? >> he was stable. my dad had multiple
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co-morbidities, but he had been asubacute rehab. we were planning for him to return home soon and he had a small infection, something that you go into the hospital for, do an additional evaluation. he was stable, laughing, talking, requesting his favorite meal, but he got exposed to coronavirus while in the hospital. probably more than two weeks or so into his stay he suddenly became ill one day, violent chills, high fevers, difficulty breathing and he had those episodes repeatedly. that's when his care team said, look, we're going to have to test him for coronavirus. we were just at the peak as it was emerging in the state of intelligent and, unfortunately, he tested positive. and he hung on, he fought, he struggled for about two more weeks and then we lost him on april 13th. >> i'm sorry. i mean, that is just the nightmare scenario that obviously people fear going to
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the hospital for a different reason and then becoming sick with coronavirus. we're so sorry for your loss. what -- beyond your own personal loss, tell us what you're seeing as a doctor in new jersey in the past week. what's different now? >> sure. so you know back in april we were the epicenter in new york and new jersey. so our hospitals were overfilled, overrun with coronavirus patients. and then through the summer the cases started to recede. it looked like we had a good handle on the pandemic but we never truly let up. we remained vigilant. what we're seeing here in the fall is temperatures would become cooler, folks would go indoors and we're finding people having private gatherings in their homes and that's driving the recent trend in spikes. we had two cases that we haven't
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seen since april. even some parts of the city as high as 35%. you see curfews, nonessential businesses being asked to shut down at p.8 p.m. and the govern just yesterday putting restrictions on indoor gatherings, restricts on outdoor gatherings. so we're do hing what you shoul do when you start to see a change in the data, your public health guidance, public health measures and controls should m ramp up. that's going going on in our state. >> and you're seeing burnout from doctors that this can't go on forever. you need space and you need personnel. >> definitely. look, coronavirus is a whole body virus, right, but i also like to say it is a whole person virus. what i mean by that, it impacts you emotionally and physically, it impact, you from a mental health aspect as well.
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and there's just fatigue setting in. our front line workers have been working at heroic paces. they've been standing in the gap, especially when we needed to flatten the curve. and the fact that this is still going on and that we haven't been able to let up and have had to remain vigilant, it takes a toll on you morally. by no means will our doctors surrender, but we need the public to do everything possible to follow those public health guidelines and we need our organizations, our hospitals, to be responsive to those whole person needs so that we can care for people through the fall and winter. >> now let talk about your personal volunteering. you volunteered in the moderna trial. you received two vaccines. any side effects? >> well, you know, the first injection really just flt lielt a flu shot. i got pain and tenderness at the injection site. that lasted for a couple of days. it didn't interfere with my activities of daily living, however. the second injection was different i can tell you.
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i got that injection early in the morning in early october. by the end of the day i had like had a hard time getting out of the car tonight and i sat there because i was so tired. i had a lingering headache for several days. after 24 to 36 hours i started to return to my baseline and i felt fine. so that's been my experience. if you look at the literature and the press, it's similar to what others in different trials have experienced as well. >> what do you tell people who that makes them nervous? they're nervous to get those symptoms. >> i say those symptoms were manageable, not out of proportion to what i have participated in. i issay it was worth it. we got early results that the moderna vaccine could be 95% effective. that's a game changer. i woke up to a text of a friend
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who said have you heard the news? have you heard the news? on top of the recent results from the pfizer coronavirus vaccine trial this is encouraging for those of us in public health looking to have the full armament, full tools in our tool chest that can actually flatten and beat back this pandemic and help americans return to their normal lives some day in the future. >> doctor, thank you for all you're doing, thank you for sharing your very unique personal experience with us. >> thank you. thank you. up next, major change for one of america's biggest sporting events. that's next in the bleacher report. - [announcer] your typical vacuum has bristles
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pandemic, the ncaa tournament will take place in 2021 and where is pretty interesting. andy scholes with that and the bleacher report. >> no tournament in 2020 cost the ncaa 3$375 million. so it's working on plans to ensure that it happens in 2021. the ncaa announcing yesterday that the entire tournament, all 68 teams for the men's basketball tournament, they're going to be in one single city be and they're in talks with indianapolis to be that city. the typical tournament takes place in 13 different cities for early round games but organizers say not feasible to manage a complex championship in so many different states with the challenges presented by the pandemic. monday night football, vikings and the bears. kirk cousins throwing two touchdown passes to adam thielen in this one. fourth loss in a row for the bears. quarterback nick foles had to be carted off late in that game
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with a leg injury. more bad news there for chicago. for kirk cousins he was 0 for 9 on monday night football going into last night's game. finally got that win. i guess the tenth time was the charm. he no longer has to dread when he sees the schedule come out and he has a monday night football game. >> thank you for that. there are a dizzying number of election fraud lawsuits filed by president trump's legal time flying all over the country. that's why our john avlon has been burning the midnight oil looking at them. he's here to tell us which ones have legs in our reality check. >> if you're confused by the lawsuits and lies coming from the trump campaign and its post election death throes, you're not alone. distraction and disinformation has always been part of their plan, possibly more than winning cases in court. here's the tale of the tape today. lawyers filing lawsuit after lawsuit on trump's behalf lost eight of them and dropped
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entirely another four. no one said overturning an election without evidence would be easy. because some folks remember the accusations more than the facts, let's set the record straight with pennsylvania where trump said he won the election because 700,000 ballots were not allowed to be viewed in philadelphia and pittsburgh. in philly they livestreamed the counting room to keep conspiracies like that at bay. when a trump lawyer admitted to a bush-appointed judge they had have nonzero number of people in the room. the judge said i'm sorry, what's the problem then? another a was asked about fraud he said to my information, no. we saw the same theme in michigan where a judge blocked an attempt to stop certification of biden's win declaring accusations of widespread election fraud incorrect and not
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credible. in arizona, trump's legal team had a hard time translating an internet conspiracy theory involving sharpies into a legal case. but we did get this flash from a trump lawyer. >> this is not a fraud case. we're not alleging fraud in this lawsuit. we're not alleging that anyone is stealing the election. >> in wisconsin a lack of evidence also doomed a case. one hot conspiracy theory falsely links a voting machine company to venezuela and george soros and blames it for changing vote totals. that's the rumor they were trying to debunk when they said there is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes or was in any way compromised.
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while trump can lie about anything, lawyers don't have that luxury. maybe that's why we've seen two law firms bail on the trump campaign to date, which is not generally a sign of confidence in their client's claims. it turns out one of trump's replacement lawyers already acknowledged joe biden president-elect on their website which is awkward. yesterday it was declared the president can keep declaring he has won but there's no plausible way this election gets overturned. we're not talking about three hail marys anymore, we're talking done. that's your reality check. >> another instant classic. thank you very much for checking into all of that. and north dakoed i "new day right now. more than 1


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