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i'm poppy harlow. >> and i'm jim sciutto. if you don't live on the west coast, watch these pictures,less wrenn to these stories, devastating wildfires scorching multiple states. at least 35 confirmed dead and dozens missing across california, oregon and washington state. tens of thousands of firefighters are battling these flails, it's a military-like operation all under a cloud of dense smoke. millions of acres have been burned so far. the weather coming could make it even worse. this is someone driving through it trying to escape with their lives. trump will head to company today after taking criticism for not doing more. and the president's rally last night, thousands of supporters packed indoors in a pandemic defying science and defying the governor's orders. many of them not wearing masks.
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officials fear this could be a super spreader event. we're also following tropical storm sally as it closes in on the gulf's coast, expected to be a hurricane when it makes landfall sometimes tomorrow morning. let's go to meteorologist chad myers. good morning to you, chad. it's going to become a hurricane. the question is how bad and how directly is it expected to hit new orleans? >> well, it depends. if the storm goes a little bit farther to the left in the cone, then new orleans gets a tremendous amount of rain. also more surge. and maybe a foot of rain. we know because of the pumps that have to get the water out, a foot of rain quickly in new orleans is a very bad thing. if it turns a little farther to the right and goes towards maybe bay sleuth and wave lend, then you'll see a surge in the 11-foot range.
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that's a big surge. we're already seeing surges at two and a half feet and that's before any kind of landfall because of the way the wind is blowing right now. landfall maybe noon, plus or mine as you couple of hours. notice how big the cone is at this point still, all the way from mobile, all the way back to grand isle, louisiana. that is a wide cone. the computer models are not doing a good job with this right now. i tell when you they do and when they don't. they're not agreeing whatsoever. if you're on the right side of the cone you need to pay attention and on the left side you need to pay attention. there's that heavy rain. if this batch of purple, 10, 15, 20 inches is a little to the left, that's when they have the fresh water flooding problem. here is the salt water flooding problems, all the way up to ocean spring, trying to get that
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water pushing up those rivers. that's the salt water flood. then we have the 70, 75, maybe 100 mile-an-hour wind gusts. there are many levels of probably less here. not a category three or four hurricane. we already have problems and we certainly don't need this. we have four more stormed in the atlantic or at least named events in the atlantic we'll call it, still to come. >> chad myers, so much to watch. we'll continue to keep you informed at home. other story we're following, at least ten are dead, nearly 1 million acres burned. what is 1 million acres? that's bigger a long shot than the entire state of rhode island as firefighters battle more than a dozen wildfires in oregon.
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the folks on the east coast must have difficult understanding the scale of this. >> in is a once in a generation kind of event. unprecedented is a term they use a lot. there are 36 major fires burning in the state of oregon and a couple of burning in the direction of the major city here, portland. these are the fire units here to protect the city. let's show you the latest out of marion county, about an hour and a half to the south. this is the beachy creek fires. it's been one of the more deadlier fires in the state of oregon and the devastation down in that area is just magnificent, even though that is a positive term for such a terrible thing. the fire officials down in this state are saying they need more of everything, they need more fire trucks, more personnel, more air assist. they also know in making their plea they're not going to get it
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because everything there is is already in use. this woman was able to return. she found their home was still standing but almost everything else was not. here what's she had to say. >> i just have no words for it. it's amazing. it's absolutely amazing. i mean, i don't know how many tears i cried before all this happened. i'm just in shock. >> let's just go over some of the numbers. you mentioned that about a million acres in this state have gone up in flames. normally in a typical year they would have about 500,000 acres burned in a year. they saw that much, actually twice that burn almost in a week, last week. so that's the kind of fires that they are up against. there is some good news, the weather is changing, humidity levels going up, wind speeds coming down, at least in the northern part of the state. the other problem they've been
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bad willing is the extreme air pollution. it is hazardous. that's the highest warning they can give to the people as far as air quality. it is unhealthy to be outside. schools are closed and it raising concerns of covid because people's lungs are going to be exhausted breathing in. >> thank you very much. we'll get more from oregon over the next two hours. let's go to arcadia, california. stephanie, more than 3.1 million acres scorched across the state, a staggering 26 times more than the amount burned in california this time last year. >> reporter: yeah, 3.3 acres
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burned in 2020. you think about the number of structures that have been burned and firefighters, the systems are attacked. they don't have new people to bring in to replace them. they're trying to take advantage of longer break times. where i'm standing, this is just below the bobcat fire, which we've been watching glow overnight. i think i can finally tell the sun is coming up. this fire is 6% contained, more that 33,000 acres have burned here. this residence where i am standing in the suburb of los angeles in the foothills here, e, some 300 holes evacuated because of this. we did mention that president donald trump is going to make his way to the sacramento area to get some on-the-ground surveillance of the fire, talked
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to level and federal officials. gavin newsom, as well as the mayor of los angeles, eric garcetti, making it clear these fires are starring to burn earlier and longer and more acres are worse and that is because of the climate crisis. we're also expected to hear that same idea coming from joe biden today but obviously very different words coming from the president. we'll see what he has to say when he gets to california later on today. jim? >> stephanie, just another reason to wear that mask out there today with all the smoke. thanks very much. our next guest is a filmmaker who grabbed her camera as the north complex fire began. this is video capturing the intensity of those flails, ambulance rushing into the fire, right? that's what's happening here, people rushing toward the flames to save. this is a scene of the aftermath. nancy hamilton jones us now. thank you for coming on.
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you have experience, you did a film about 2018 fires, which seemed bad and they are bad and now it cease like we're setting new records of day. just describe to folks who don't have personal experience of this, haven't seen it themselves, the intensity and the scale of these wildfires. >> it's hard to even describe the magnitude of these fires until you're a hundred feet above the tree level. >> tell us about the speed that these fires move. you have a lot of folks getting caught, right in they think they can get out, they can't get out. unfortunately a lot of they will ha -- them have lost their lives. you were driving through this. how quickly do these fires move? >> incredibly quickly. they're unpredictable. they really are a beast of their
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own identity. they move at their own whim. they're terrifying and moving extremely quickly. >> we're showing some of the aftermath. it moves through, it burns homes look paper. you're currently housing families who were forced to evacuate, including your best friend's 80-year-old grandmother, who lost her home in the fire. fires are losing everything they have. thankfully they're alive but they're losing everything they own. >> it's really difficult. that's one of the reasons we're here, people need to know the status of their homes. my best friend's grandmother had a stroke a few months back and then she had covid a couple months back and now her house is gone. so her stress level -- she's
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handling it very well but it's very, very difficult. >> she's experiencing what the country is experiencing, covid and now this. i wonder, you hear of tens of though thousands of firefighters working. is it your sense that federal and local state governments are overwhelmed by this? >> oh, yes. people don't know how to cope with the events. the authorities work so hard to con taken these fires. >> what happens now, i suppose, is a question, right? because we're early -- in normal times the season hasn't even begun, right? so forest fire season as we traditionally think of it is, you know, in the future, not the
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past. what happens now in these communities? can people even safely go home? >> no. that's one of the difficulties is when a fire comes through of this magnitude such as the camp fire did two years ago, many of the residents were out of their homes for over a month. so even though they didn't have homes to go back to, they wanted to at least have closure and they weren't able to. and another problem is insurance will not pay out unless there's photos. so if you can't get in and get photos, you've got a real problem on your hands. >> we're glad you're safe. please send our best to all the folks you're hunkering down with there and bringing us an eyes with account of this. >> thank you very. >> the president is defending his pandemic response. bob woodward saying, quote, nothing more could be done but
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spread with people who don't have symptoms as well, right? >> of course. >> i feel that's my freedom as an american. if i catch covid, it's the consequences of my actions so i'm willing to take that risk. >> it's just hard to fathom. it's not in their own health interests, yet that's where we are, this as the white house is defending its response to the pandemic and the president's interviews, his comments, on-the-record comments and on tape comments with journalist bob woodward. woodward is now speaking out about those interviews for the first time. john harwood joins us now. one of the more interesting interactions is woodward talking about his last conversation with the president over the week in his last of 18 interviews. what did he have to say on that? >> reporter: well, jim, it was fascinating. first of all, woodward has also been placed on defense, with
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people asking you if he was deliberately downplaying the violence, why did you not release these earlier? he said he didn't realize the import of what heeard. by the end of the reporting, he had concluded that president donald trump was the wrong man of the job. he related that president donald trump said to him in the white house there's always dynamite behind the door, woodward said president donald trump is himself the dynamite. then when he related to the president it was going to be a tough back and he emphasized that to the president, he said shortly after that the president tweeted out that the book was going to be fake. now, that inability to tolerate and process dissent and criticism is something that president donald trump has shared with authoritarian leaders around the world and he told bob woodward he gets along with authoritarians better than a lot of other world leaders. take a listen.
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>> i get along very well with u -- the relationships i have, the tougher and meaner ones i get along with better. >> now, the one authoritarian leader that president donald trump has gotten along well for a long time is vladimir putin from russia. we heard from the former deputy national intelligence director saying that the message the president is sending about a rigged election is precisely what russian propagandists want to send to decay trust in the american system. >> absolutely. you hear from everywhere.
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>> joining us is drdr. sack fro brigham and women's in boston. before last night the last indoor rally the president had was in tulsa. we saw a significant spike in the cases in tulsa following that. when do we know if last night's rally will be a super spreader event? >> usually it takes a couple of weeks to have cases linked to these events. it varies because the incubation period varies from a couple of days to about two weeks. we'll have an idea in a couple of weeks whether it's going to be that way. we do know the virus is spread by people without symptoms. that's why there are no spectators in the sports venus
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right now. >> dr. sax, it's highlighted how the trump administration worked to speed up the use of convalescent plasma. they exaggerated the health benefits of it by a factor of seven. that was the sunday night before the rnc, there seemed to be some political timing related to that. what's the safety valve here in we talk the institutions will stand up and push back about this but they haven't. the president has gone on to spread these messages and we have a vaccine decision coming. what's the safety valve for people can feel confident in. >> the good news is the fda has repeatedly now said they are not going to rush a vaccine for approval unless there are good
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safety data. so that's one thing that we have backing us up. the other thing is that the scientific community is really very much unified in our wanting to have a safe, effective vaccine with an emphasis on safe. this is different from treating someone who is sick. these are vaccines given to healthy. . it's very, very important that we wait for safety data before we put a vaccine out in the community. there's already a distrust about vaccines and we don't want to harm it. >> it was qualified we don't know if it will work but we should know by the end of october. then he explained why the company declined any government
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they can say a vaccine is going to be effective or not effective or safe or unsafe. of course all of us are very excited about the progress in vaccines but we again, i want to underscore i want it to be safe, it's really critical before it gets released. >> thanks very much for your time. a manhunt is under way after two los angeles county sheriff deputies were ambushed in their car. it's an alarming story. coming up the latest on their conditions and the search for the shooter. come on, no no n-n-n-no-no only discover has no annual fee on any card.
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welcome back. two los angeles county deputies are this morning still in critical condition after they were shot while they were just sitting in their vehicles in what authorities there are calling a complete ash bumbush. now there is a $100,000 reward for any information leading to the shooter. >> josh, first question, their condition, right? how do they stand? and do we have any information about the shooter? >> jim and poppy, we learned some positive news last night. the two sheriff deputies are out of surgery, recovering in the hospital behind me. we heard the sheriff say the long-terl impact of the injuries are still unknown, he expects they will to pull through. a bit of good news there. this stemming from that very violent encounter on cctv foot
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al footage. he fires into the side of the vehicles, trurns and fleecs. the man hunt continues as authorities have not released any details, a $100,000 reward is now being offered for any information leading to his arrest, jim and poppy. >> before you go, josh, obviously there is a lot of talk as well about what happened. and some of the horrible chants by a few about the officers as they were being taken into the hospital. and then subsequently it looks as though it appears at least one reporter was arrested. do we know why, on both accounts? >> reporter: this happened where i'm stand being right here outside the hospital on saturday night. the deputies were taken here by ambulance. and there were a group of protesters, authorities say, who
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showed up. authorities say some in the crowd were chanting disparaging things about the deputies, including that they wanted them to die, which is baffling. there was a small group that appeared to be blocking the entrance. that stopped the ingress/edegrees ingress/egress. also caught up in that, a local reporter in the los angeles area was taken to the ground by deputies and taken under arrest. the sheriff's defendant has a lot to answer to. they say that reporter failed to identify herself as a member of the press saying she didn't have press credentials. how, later video from the reporter herself she was taking at the moment appears to show her identifying herself, screaming out the outlet that she worked for here, that running contradictory to what authorities came out and said. there's also a controversy regarding one video where it
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appears to show a deputy stomping on her phone. a lot of unanswered questions. a lot to answer for about that encounter. >> thank you for answering that. and we're thinking of the deputies and sounds like the surgeries were successful. >> for the millions waiting on congress for aid and help, don't count on it before the election. why a deal is very unlikely. but how do we make sure the direction we're headed is forward? at fidelity, you'll get the planning and advice to prepare you for the future, without sacrificing the things that are important to you today. we'll help you plan for healthcare costs, taxes and any other uncertainties along the way. because with fidelity, you can feel confident that the only direction you're moving is forward.
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this despite the fact that some 30 million americans are still receiving some sort of jobless benefit and this morning the treasury secretary spoke about the need for more aid. >> it's very important that we have stimulus that helps the areas of the economy that need support. i'm more concerned about small businesses that are particularly impacted by the slowdown. margaret is the head of goldman sachs investment group. thanks for being here. >> hi, how are you? >> i'm well but i'm disturbed. the democrats say we have to get something done and the republicans and treasury secretary said we have to get something done. larry kudlow said this on friday. listen. >> i don't think the recovery hinges on this bill. the reality is it would help, okay? >> what is the real life impact for very average americans that nothing is likely going to
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happen to help them in terms of more stimulus for the next two months a the lea s at least? >> the impact is so real. what's helpful is to almost take a step back. in the best of times, in our base case, 57% of american families can't stomach a $500 emergency. your car breaks down, you need to get to work, lose your job, snowballs into eviction, these are serious issues. the idea that additional stimulus would help, these are real people's lives, these are real issues, small businesses that are continuing to lay off people. there's real life impact and it's urgent. >> the numbers that goldman sacks came out with just a few days ago and it reporting on nearly a thousand different small businesses, what was striking to me is 36% say they're going to lay off workers or cut wages if there's not in
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the next few weeks and black businesses, 43% are going to run out of cash reserves. so i don't understand what congress is not understanding about this. these things will happen. >> they will. i think it's important to almost peel back these type of small businesses. you mentioned the disproportion we're seeing among back businesses 90% of black businesses are sole proprietorships, individuals providing services to their communities and families and going it alone. these are not businesses that came in with significant cash reserves or massive balance sheet. when you take effectively five months of revenue out for those who didn't come into the pandemic with a lot to begin with. so the data continues to be
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incredibly disturbing. >> is your analysis then, because there's so much talk about coming out of this recovery with a new, more just, more equal economy. when you still have black unemployment at 13%, even with unemployment at 8%, that's not the reality for plaqblack ameri, are we on a path to come out of this with an even more unjust economy? >> i think so much depends on the next few weeks and months. even as you talked about this data, going down to 8.4%, 13% for black americans. i think what we're struggling with is data that's confusing. july and august there was lots of encouraging data but you have to peel it back. we saw better data than we thought but it wasn't like there was way more hiring than was expected, it was just less layoffs. your point about the black
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businesses. the aggregate data we're all watching in this recovery that in certain ways is better than expected just doesn't tell the story for certain geographies and certain individual and certainly different business types. >> i don't totally get it because it seems like in some ways congress is shooting itself in the foot here and not heeding -- i blame both parties, by the way, and not heeding the results and advice of ben bernanke, who warned don't make the mistake we made in the baoba administration by not pouring enough into recovery. 1.3 state and local employees have their jobs since march. do you we're we'll make the same mistake as a country? >> i do think we'll make the same mistakes. even with the improvements that we saw in july and august, if
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you just look at the cumulative decline, where we sit today, in payroll, we're worse than the worst moment of the great recession. there has to be more stimulus. what other data do ewe need? if we're not getting more stimulus before the election, we're certainly not paying attention to ben bernanke. >> well, it's 50 days before the election. pennsylvania's mail-in ballots were supposed to go out today. problems are forcing this key battleground state to wait. next. -and always will be. never letting anything get in my way. not the doubts, distractions, or voice in my head. and certainly not arthritis.
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okay. ballots should start being mailed to voters today in the key swing state of pennsylvania, but they won't be. with less than 50 days until election day, the final version of the ballot there is yet to be approved, putting the start of the election in that state on hold. pennsylvania, to be clear, is not the only state where there are deep battles under way over voting access. this could affect your vote. i'm joined now by wendy wiser, director of the democracy program at the brennan center for justice. wendy, good to have you on this morning. >> reporte >> good morning, jim. >> so for folks like myself who are having trouble keeping track of all the court decisions, legal disputes, lawsuits taking place in states around the country, just big picture, tell us what's happening nationwide and should voters be concerned about a deliberate effort to
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block or limit voting access here? >> well, we are undoubtedly in a very chaotic election season this year, and there's a perfect storm of factors that is making it difficult to run a safe and accessible election. we are in the midst of a pandemic. election officials are facing severe budget shortages. we have hyper polarization and a president who is undermining confidence in our elections f. foreign adversaries are trying to meddle in the election and we have widespread information. all of this amidst lawsuits across the country that are going to tim pact what are the rules and processes for voting this november? >> right. >> election officials -- election time is already upon us right now. in many places absentee ballots have already gone out, soon early voting is going to start, so it's critical that in the
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next few weeks we resolve all these remaining outstanding questions about how voting is going to happen so we can get to the business of voting. >> is that realistic though given, you know, the president is very deliberately talking about questioning all mail-in voting, right? so can we have these crucial questions settled before election day, or are we now set up for a disputed election day? >> well, we have right now 170 lawsuits that have been filed since january of this year about the voting process. most of these have to do with changing the rules in order -- so that people can vote safely during the pandemic. some of these are lawsuits by the president and some of his allies that are trying to undermine voting access at the same time. those have not been successful to date. we are starting to see decisions
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come down now and over the next two weeks wrapping up what the voting rules are going to be. what the president is doing that is unprecedented for a sitting president of the united states to try to s zo w chaos and undermine confidence in the election is not right. our system is actually stable. it's going to work. mail voting is safe. in-person voting is going to be safe this year, too, election officials are taking dramatic steps to make sure that they comply with all of our health mandates. and so, yes, there's going to be chaos. yes, there's a lot of work we still need to do can, but americans should still be confident going out to vote this year. >> okay. what do folks at home need to do right now to -- to have the best information but also ensure that their vote, whether mailed in or done in person at a polling station, that they will have the option to do that, right?
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what should folks do right now to ensure that they have that? >> so, people need to get correct information. your correct information is from your local election officials or your state election officials. there's a lot of misinformation out there. >> yeah. >> you need to right now make sure that you're registered to vote and check your registration and however you're going to vote do it early. in most states you can vote in person early, and it's important to flatten that voting curve. if you're going to vote absentee, if that's the safest way of voting, apply now so that you can do it as early as possible. that's the way we're going to be able to avoid some of the worst problems like what we saw during the primaries this year with long lines, delayed ballots and really some chaos at election offices. i think we're learning from the mistakes. election officials are trying to do this a lot earlier, but voters need to act early, too. >> yeah. >> act early.
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ignore -- >> you can track it, too. >> yeah. >> and that's the most important thing to know. >> and avoid the disinformation. what i'm going to do as you're watching now i'll get a website from wendy and share it on twitter so you can go there to help find what the truth is because there's a lot of mistruths out there, and we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ for all the moments you've missed and all the moments you haven't "hi" love, can't wait -"got the ring!" -"yes!" and with jared it doesn't have to ♪
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american tech giant oracle will partner with tiktok now to keep the popular chinese app running in the u.s. after a potential sale to microsoft fell through. >> tiktok is one of the most popular apps in history. as you know, it's been downloaded 350 million times in just the first three months of this year, but the traump administration threatened to stop it completely from operating in the united states over cyber security and national security concerns.
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let's go to our tech reporter brian fung who joins us live. this is a surprise. i think most people thought that this was going to go to microsoft with walmart's involvement, but it's not a done deal, right? explain what this means, why oracle and then also what does this do to ticket jktok's lawsu against the trump administration? >> reporter: this is not a done deal. there are a lot of moving parts involved. what we know about oracle deal are still kind of hazy, but this deal is not looking like an outright sale which could raise questions about whether or not this deal will pass muster with the trump administration. as you might recall, brushing signed an executive order last month that would seek to ban tiktok from the united states by september 20th and in a separate order he has ordered the -- the company to find a buyer by november 12th. now, of course, we're less than a week away from this ban.
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it's still to be determined whether or not the administration might lift or suspend that ban as a result of this news we're hearing about oracle and tiktok. now, of course, you can't talk about this deal without talking about how unusual it is to see oracle, a company that doesn't sell, you know, consumer technology to americans but that sells business technology to corporations and, you know, of course, oracle's chairman, larry ellison, is a major trump support and donor. is there a connection there? we don't exactly know, but we're going to try to find out. >> bill gates, of course, of microsoft has been a target of the president and his supporters here. we saw some questions about politics about doj opposition to the at&t acquisition of time warner, of course, who owns cnn. have there been questions from microsoft in this circumstance whether politics got in the way? >> reporter: well, we haven't seen questions from microsoft exactly, but i do think that the
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way that this deal is going forward, it will raise a lot of questions as to whether or not, you know, ellison's relationship with trump may have played a role here and that certainly fits a pattern with trump, you know, having, you know, inserted himself into amazon's byrd for a pentagon cloud contract, for example. >> right. >> and a as you said the at&t time warner deal as well. >> yeah. >> brian fung, thanks very much. we know you'll stay on top of it. a very good monday morning to you. i'm jim sciutto. >> and i'm poppy harlow. this morning we're following extreme weather affecting so many millions of americans, really from the gulf coast to the west coast. take a look at that. that is tropical storm sally barreling towards louisiana and mississippi. it's expected to grow into a hurricane before making landfall on tuesday. officials are warning that it could bring with it life-threatening storm surge. >> goodness.

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