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i didn't lie. what i said is, we have to be calm. >> one day after bombshell recordings revealed the president intentionally downplayed the covid-19 threat, trump is claiming it was all about keeping americans from panicking. >> bob woodward, he didn't think it was bad and he didn't say he think it was bad. >> you're the president. you don't get to spin woodward. >> the new poll shows the majority of americans believe political pressure will impact the approval of a vaccine. >> it is moving forward at a pace that the world has never seen, but i will say, not in a fashion that allows cutting corners. >> it's a race against this virus and it's a race to save lives.
>> announcer: this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> all right, welcome to our injuri viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is "new day," it is friday, september 11th, a day that means so much to so many. it is 6:00 here in new york. this morning, one of the trump administration's own leading scientists is expressing public concern over the president's political decisions on coronavirus. this was a packed rally that the president held overnight in michigan. no social distancing. few masks, and franklfrankly, p so. the director of the national institutes of health, frances collins, right here on cnn, said he was puzzled by images like this. he called it disheartening. 3,000 people, with the president presiding, frankly, all over each other. this is the 16th rally the president has held since telling bob woodward that the coronavirus is airborne and deadlier than the flu and then lying about it to the american people. >> michigan is one of the 16
states where deaths are rising this morning. the cdc warns that more than 20,000 people could die in the next three weeks. dr. anthony fauci warning americans, the fall and winter will not be easy. he says, americans need to hunker down. colleges and schools across the country struggling to deal with outbreaks, many linked to parties and to greek life. at least three teachers in three states have died in recent weeks, including this 28-year-old third grade teacher, demi bannister. we'll speak to her friend in the 7:00 hour. also, today is 9/11. it's been 19 years since the terror attacks. this morning, we will remember the lives lost. we begin with cnn's joe johns. he is at the white house with our top story. joe? >> good morning, alisyn. nearly 192,000 americans have died, but the president is defending his decision to downplay the virus. and he is making the case that
he did not lie to the american public about the seriousness of the situation in the early days of the pandemic. but in making that case, he is attempting to explain away what was the fact when he talked to bob woodward. listen. >> reporter: a defiant president trump launched his defensive strategy, responding to recordings showing he intentionally downplayed the coronavirus to the public. >> i didn't lie. what i said is, we have to be calm, we can't be panicked. i don't want to jump up and down and start screaming, death, death, because that's not what it's about. >> reporter: but just listen to the tape to hear trump privately admit to bob woodward he knew how dangerous the disease could be. >> that's a very delicate one. it's also more deadly than your, you know, even your strenuous flus. you know, so, this is deadly stuff. >> reporter: and weeks later, he told woodward this -- >> i wanted to always play it
down. i still like playing it down. >> yes, sir. >> because i don't want to create a panic. >> reporter: still, the president insisting his strategy was correct and even attempted to pass responsibility on to woodward. >> if bob woodward thought what i said was bad, then he should have immediately, right after i said it, gone out to the authorities so they can prepare and let them know. but he didn't think it was bad. >> reporter: trump's white house defense coming before he traveled to a michigan rally to a crowd of several thousand. >> there's no covid. it's a fake pandemic. >> i'm not afraid. the good lord takes care of me. if i die, i die! we've got to get this country moving! >> the director of the national institutes of health says he's concerned by the lack of masks and social distancing at the event. >> if something that is so straightforward can somehow get twisted into decision making that really makes no sense. so i'm -- as a scientist, i'm
pretty puzzled and rather disheartened. >> reporter: still, the president again told supporters the days of the coronavirus are coming to an end. >> our country is doing great. we had to take a pause to get rid of the china virus and we got rid of -- we're getting rid of -- we're coming around, we're coming around that turn. i'm telling you, you watch. >> reporter: but health experts warn the pandemic will most likely get worse in the fall and winter months. >> i just think we need to hunker down and get through this fall and winter. because it's not going to be easy. >> reporter: on the campaign trail in florida, kamala harris slammed trump for holding back information and continuing to hold large rallies during the pandemic. >> he knew the facts of it! 5% potential lethality. he narrated all of that in that conversation. in february and january, he had all of this information, yet he
held rallies, he suggested that to wear a mask is a sign of weakness as opposed to a sign of strength. this is the president of the united states. >> the coordinator of the white house task force, dr. deborah birx, denies that the white house is sending mixed messages on safety measures. but take a look at the images from that rally last night in michigan. it shows an enormous disconnect as to what the task force is giving on guidance on masks and social distancing and what the trump campaign is allowing to happen on the ground. the president later this morning is expected to fly out to shanksville, pennsylvania, to observe the 19th anniversary of 9/11. joe biden and jill biden start their day in new york and end up also in shanksville in the afternoon. alisyn, back to you. >> joe, thank you very much.
this morning, the white house coronavirus task force zeroing in on college and university towns, pushing them to take measures to prevent further outbreaks. health officials urging students who test positive to stay on campus rather than return home. cnn's nick valencia is live with the latest. hi, nick. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. it has been exactly six months since the world health organization declared a global pandemic and just about a month before some universities and colleges began allowing students back on campus. in that time, it has been a daily struggle to control some of these outbreaks. and now with grade schools and high schools in full swing, health experts warn that any progress made in some states could be ruined. >> reporter: colleges across the country struggling to contain coronavirus outbreaks, just weeks after reopening, arizona state university reporting nearly 1,400 students have tested positive since august 1st. and the university of texas at austin confirming three virus
clusters on its campus. the university of wisconsin and madison pausing in-person classes nor tclass s for two weeks and the high number of positive tests causing two residence halls to quarantine. >> most important to every student out there, please get tests. it is really important. >> reporter: even more concerning, at the university of tennessee, some fraternities have been undermining the rules meant to keep them safe. >> fraternity leaders communicating to houses to have parties and how to avoid being caught, avoid the police. >> reporter: and at the k-12 level, at least three teachers have died this year from covid-19 complications, including 28-year-old demetria bannister. she was a third grade elementary school. >> she enjoyed her job. she enjoyed teaching and educating people. demetria was a soldier for us.
shaf she was always free spirited and kept the family together. >> reporter: this as confidence gathers on the vaccine front. a new poll shows 62% of americans feel political pressure will rush the fda to approve a vaccine before it's safe. but national institutes of health director dr. frances collins ensures the current covid-19 vaccine trials are more rigorous than previous vaccine trial trials. >> it is moving forward at a pace that the world has never seen, but not in a fashion that allows cutting corners with safety. i want to make that really clear. we sped up this process in a variety of ways, but not to compromise safety. >> reporter: despite president donald trump's repeated claims, collins is doubtful there will be a vaccine by election day. >> that's really very unlikely. much more likely, we'll have a readout on one or more of these, maybe in december, possibly in november. but late october seems beyond the likely hoo llihood that mos can predict when you look at what has to happen between now and then.
>> and the w.h.o is trying desperately to instill public confidence in the vaccine process, saying that a pause like the one that we saw in the astrazeneca trial is normal, saying despite that recent poll that a majority of americans believe that the fda will push a vaccine through before it's safe and effective, the world health organization saying that that won't happen, assuring the public that it will be safe and effective when we finally have a vaccine. john? >> nick valencia, thanks so much for your reporting. you have great sources in the medical community around atlanta. we really appreciate you being with us. all right, breaking overnight, the death toll has climbed to 15 as these wildfires burn in california, oregon, and washington. in oregon, at least half a million people have now been forced from their homes. overnight in northern california, firefighters discovered seven bodies during wellness checks. at least 16 people at this point unaccounted for. cnn's dan simon joins us live near the creek fire, which is now about 6% contained after burning for days. dan, why don't you give us the
latest update. >> hi, john. so many of these small mountain communities impacted. names like big creek and shaver lake and the town of auberry, like i am. you drive around and see destroyed neighborhoods like this. this fire growing only modestly the last few days, 175 acres charred, but it's only 6% contained. the most serious fire appears to be in butte county, where a wall of fire went there and basically destroyed the town of berry creek. hundreds of homes destroyed. you have tens of thousands of people who are evacuated. and go up to oregon and washington, a dire situation in oregon, where you have 500,000 people who are evacuated. 10% of the state's population. the governor there saying she's never seen so many uncontained fires at once. nearly a million acres charred. and remember, it's not just all of the fires, it's the air quality impacting so many communities. los angeles experiencing its worst air quality in 25 years. john? >> all right, dan simon for us
at the fires in california. obviously, these are such a problem out there and deserve the attention of the entire country. thanks so much, dan. so dr. anthony fauci tells us we need to hunker down in the fall. the cdc just revised its death projections upwards for the first week of october. what are they seeing that they're so concerned about? that's next. we're carvana, the company who invented
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contributor and "new york times" op-ed columnist and dr. abdul el sayed, cnn political commentator and epidemiologist. what we just heard from francis collins is an entire microcosm of the entire bob woodward book. the president knew how contagious the coronavirus was and lied to the american people about it. the president knows that holding a packed rally is dangerous. how does he know? because the leading scientists in the government keep on telling him it's dangerous, yet dr. el sayed, he continues to do it. what does that tell you? >> that tells me he doesn't care. i live in michigan and i know that our state is that much less safe because of all of the potential case transmission that happened in a packed airport hanger that did not have to happen because this person cares more about his presidential campaign than our public health. and for someone running for office about serving the american people, it's deeply frustrated watch him to consistently disregard the information he now knows and
understands. and so this is part of a broader pattern of lying about this pandemic and politicizing this pandemic in ways that made it harder for public health professionals all over this country to take this on. it is deeply frustrating and extremely cynical. >> i don't know, frank, looking at these videos from the rally, ever since hearing the president's words yesterday, where as john said, on february 7th, he knew it was airborne, he knew it was more deadly, five times, he said, he told bob woodward, than the seasonal flu. now when i look at those videos, they kind of take on -- the revelry looks a little bit more cast in a morbid light, actually. the idea that everybody is just packed in here. and so, joe acosta went through the crowd yesterday and tried to ask them what they're thinking, you know, being shoulder to shoulder, mask free. so here's some examples of their thought process. >> why are you guys not wearing masks? >> i have one with me.
it's my prerogative. but why not wear one to stay safe? >> i have a hard time understanding people when they talk, so that's why i don't wear it. >> but you can hear me right now? >> i can hear you. >> sir, why are you not wearing your mask? >> because there's no covid. it's a fake pandemic, created to destroy the united states of america. >> but the president said to bob woodward that there is a virus, the coronavirus, and that it is deadly. >> that's his opinion. the truth is that the cdc said only less than 10,000 people died from covid. the other 190,000 have 2.6 or 2.8 othermore d mortalitmortali. >> does it worry you at all to be in this space? >> i'm not afraid. the good lord takes care of me. any die, i die. we've got to get this country moving. what are you going to do? wear masks and stay inside for another year? huh? what will that get us?
>> frank, your thoughts? >> well, i mean, what you hear there are echos of what the president said publicly while he was privately saying something different to bob woodward. it should not shock us that many americans feel the way the way the people at that rally feel, because the president encouraged them, for many, many months, at the beginning of this pandemic to feel that way. he used the words "fake" and talked about this as a media exaggeration, a media invention. he mocked people who wore masks. governors who were doing things with lockdowns to stop doing that and to set the people free. and so when you now hear all of that echoed in a rally crowd, why should we be remotely surprised? we have a president who gave his convention speech to hundreds of people gathered cheek by jowl without masks. that speaks volumes and that explains the behavior you see at that rally. >> geagain, dr. el sayed, i was struck by dr. francis collins
saying he was disheartened by this. this is the government's own scientist saying this is a problem. and we're also getting new warnings from dr. anthony fauci. he's talking about the fact that people are going to need to hunker down in the fall, because it's going to be tough, he says. >> i just think we need to hunker down and get through this fall and winter. because it's not going to be easy. we know every time we restrict -- we lift restrictions, we get a blip. i mean, it's getting -- it's whack-a-mole. >> every time we lift the restrictions, we get a blip. i get the sense, dr. el sayed, there's a feeling we could be getting complacent. the case level has plateaued, but at a very high level. we're up near 40,000. dr. fauci wants to see us down around 10,000. what do you think about that? >> it's not just that we've relaxed restrictions. there are a lot of structural things that happen with our own behavior in the fall. kids go back to school, students go back to colleges and
universities, and a lot of us go inside, because in the upper midwest and northeast and other parts of the country, it gets kind of cold. so all of those things are going to increase transmission. meanwhile, a lot of folks have become, as dr. fauci put it, a bit lax with their own personal practice of these recommendations. and what we need to do as a society is hunker down, as he said. because i worry a lot about how these structural behaviors, piled on top of one another, are going to increase the transmission of this disease. and then, of course, we're adding into the mix another very serious infectious disease in the flu. one we take more for granted because we're more used to it, but when you're talking about potential co-infection with the flu and covid-19, you're potential going to see a lot more death associated with it. so these are scientists. and i just want to make it clear that each one of these scientists, public servants, have served under both democratic and republican administrations and done so with a level of rigor and focus on
the science that's admiral. and so, this isn't just, you know, a partisan talking point. these are the scientific experts of the united states government who have served both democrats and republicans, and what they're trying to do is save our lives. >> all right, guys, stand by, if you will. because another major issue facing the country right now is what's happening on college campuses. frank, i know you've got some new reporting on what you're hearing from educational leaders around the country about the outbreaks, which just seem to be raging uncontained at this moment. that's next. introducing new voltaren arthritis pain gel, the first and only full prescription strength non-steroidal anti-inflammatory gel available over-the-counter. new voltaren is powerful arthritis pain relief in a gel. voltaren. the joy of movement.
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we are back with dr. abdul el sayed and frank bruni. frank is also the author of the book, "where you'll go is not who you'll be: an antidote to the college admissions compla s" you know your way around a college campus, so let me start with you. and i'm just reading a text right now from one of my closest friends. she sent her two sons back to college last week, one to the university of arizona, one to have the university of wisconsin. the university of arizona son was there for a week, just tested positive. the university of wisconsin son, just got a notice last night from his dorm that they are going into quarantine from 10:00 p.m. last night until 8:00 a.m. september 23rd. he said, it was chaos, because nobody wants to be in quarantine in their dorm, locked down for two weeks. so there was a mad scramble to pack up their stuff and get out of their dorms before 10:00 p.m. so now they're just loose in the community. this is just two examples of what's happening to one family.
>> yeah, no, i mean, sadly, alisyn, this was inevitable. i had a college president say something really, really chilling to me, which is that if you were trying to design a theater of contagion for spreading the coronavirus, a college campus would be close behind a cruise ship and an assisted living facility. and that's true, because of its enclosed nature, because of its social nature. and right now, i mean, i think the greatest danger is that some of these colleges do let students leave, go home, take it beyond that theater of contagion, make that theater of contagion a catalyst for contagion elsewhere. and so colleges are in this -- they have this real challenge and this real bind, because they have to do a much better job than they've been doing, controlling what's happening on campus, but they cannot dump their problem on the rest of society. they can't let these students go home, because that's a recipe for the biggest disaster of all. >> it's interesting, university of illinois, champaign urbana
has this incredible testinging regim regimen. they said the one thing they didn't account for is how much kids would party and how much people who tested positive would still go to these parties. frank, i mean, i struggle with this. how much of is this is on the kids? these people are 18 and 19 years old, don't they have some responsibility here? i know the colleges have to do more, but isn't some of this on these adults? >> yes, it's on these adults and it's on the people who raise them. where the colleges, though, i think are complicit is we're now, you know, decades into this marketing, this image of college as this party, as this nonstop party. college administrators have created this image, this notion of college as this nonstop social experience, as an experience that is every bit as social as it is educational, if not more. and i think right now, the chickens are coming home to roost in that. kids go to college, they expect a certain kind of revelry, a
certain kind of social experience, that's completely out of whack. and now we're telling them, no, that's not what it's about, but that's not the message we've been giving them for decades. >> dr. el sayed, john and i have this debate all the time, because i give the kids more of a pass, because, case in point, they're not tested every day, and if they're not, some of them don't know they are positive. my friend's son got a positive test result. he's asymptomatic, so, of course, they've been going out in town. they don't know that they're positive. this is happening everywhere. that's right, alisyn. look, my thoughts on this are a little bit different. i just believe that college administrators are responsible for what's happening on their campus. that's why they're being paid the hundreds of thousands of dollars and students and parents are paying them to be able to make good decisions about what that campus may mean. and administrator know what happens on campus on thursday nights and friday nights. and they're young people, right? young people have been cooped up in their homes for a really long time. i actually think that a lot of
this is on the administrators, making decisions that almost every public health expert said were suspect, so that they could recoup and harvest those tuition dollars that they knew they needed. and this has been a problem across colleges and across campuses, no matter how rigorous their approach has been, simply because young people are young people. and if you put them together on a college campus after an entire summer and spring of being ko d cooped up in their parent's house, what do you think is going to happen? >> some of the reporting now is there are kids that they know they are positive going to parties. that's what's happened reportedly in illinois and alabama, so that's what's starting to happen and i happen to think that's irresponsible and they know better. >> well, we agree with that. >> apparently not, you just said, these kids are going to go and party. >> but some of them don't know they're positive, unless you're being tested every day, and not all schools are testing everybody, every day. what are you supposed to do, stay in your dorm room every day
for four years, like you did? >> there wasn't a pandemic when i went to college. it's a privilege to go to college, and it's $70,000 to go to college and these young adults need to know that. and clearly the colleges need to do more, i get it. but i don't think we should completely absolve these privileged children who are, you know, who are at these schools, who are learning, i think, you know, to go forth in society. dr. el sayed, to frank's point, i think this is important, though, we saw in may bars be this place where the virus started to come back. people would go into bars and then they would go out into the community. is that what's happening with colleges now, the kids will go to college, get this, and that's where we'll see this be sparked? >> john, to your broader point, if you know you're positive and you're going out, that's frankly irresponsible and wrong. we've got to ask a bigger-picture question, right? why is it in our society, we systemically bias opportunities for fun over all of the other things that need to happen in society, like 5-year-olds going to kindergarten? i worry a lot about exactly the
point that you made, where you have college campuses that become hot zones for transmission. and then, all of a sudden, the colleges don't want to have to handle the problem that they helped to create. and they send kids home, back into the random towns that they've come from. and now they're seeding infections there. i think it's really, really important, as alisyn talked about with her friend, it is now quarantining in a dorm on campus that those quarantine situations happen on campus, so that if and when students are released home, that at least they're armed with knowing their status and after having done a quarantine to make sure that that covid status is real, and that they haven't been transmitted. but this is a situation that really is quickly becoming out of control. and speaks to a lack of preparation on the front end. >> and by the way, there's one more factor. it's not just your dorm, if you're going to be quarantined in your dorm or if you're going to be sent home to infect your
family, there's also the college town. frank, as you know, some of these are small rural or even urban college towns and these kids are going out. so you're also exposing, when you have this hotbed of possible positivity, they're also, before they know, maybe, that they're positive, unless they're irresponsible, they're going out into these towns and exposing everybody in that town to it, as well. >> it's a very dangerous situation. and one thing we haven't said that we should also say is for a lot of these students, they kind of don't quite get it, because they're seeing these numbers of people infected, but they're not seeing a lot of their friends actually seriously sick because of the age group they're in. it's hard for some of them to see this as more than an abstraction. i think in retrospect, we're going to come to the conclusion that a lot of these campuses should not have welcomed kids back in the first place. they should have continued the remote learning, which was the way the spring semester ended. but they were in huge economic trouble and huge economic pressure to get students back. they've lost a lot of money in
student fees and athletic revenues. and i think they may have hurried in opening for business. >> it's really remarkable, the stories you tell just from your one friend. it seems that so many colleges are doing it. we're hearing this story time after time after time after time. >> guys, thank you very much for walking us through all of this and what the fall might look like. thank you. so president trump promised to unveil a health care plan. it was more than three weeks ago when he made this promise. he said it would be very soon. where is it? that's next. for the past 25 years, masimo has been
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wisconsin. the state supreme court has ordered election officials not to mail ballots to voters until the court decides whether to add the green party to the ballot. the ruling comes one week ahead of the deadline for ballots to be mailed out. the 4-3 decision was split among party lines. all four conservative justices ruled in favor of pausing the process. think about that. all four of basically the republican judges, the conservative judges wanted the green party, the extreme left, to be on the ballot. obviously, in wisconsin, jill stein in 2016, the thinking is, pulled a lot of votes from hillary clinton. so it is an interesting development, to say the least. and it adds confusion to the process at a time when there probably shouldn't be. >> you're scrambling my brain. i have to sit down. meanwhile, this morning, the stalemate over stimulus drags on. the senate failed to advance a slimmed down relief bill on thursday. democrats and kentucky republican rand paul opposed the measure. democrats called it inadequate, because it did not include
relief for state and local governments. >> so, new this morning, president trump has not released a new health care plan, despite promising to do so, honestly, for years. most recently, on july 19th, he told chris wallace that he would release a new health plan within two weeks. that was seven weeks ago. cnn's phil mattingly takes a closer look. >> i want to have a great health care bill and plan. and we will. it will happen. >> it's been three years and president donald trump still doesn't have a comprehensive health care reform plan. he didn't when he said this in june 2019. >> and we already have the concept of the plan. we'll be announcing that in about two months. maybe less. >> reporter: when he promised this in july. >> we're signing a health care plan within two weeks. a full and complete health care plan. >> reporter: or most recently, when he pledged a plan by the end of august. >> i do want to say that we're going to be introducing a
tremendous health care plan some time prior -- hopefully prior to the end of the month. it's just about completed now. >> reporter: it's now september, in the middle of a once-in-a-century pandemic with the death toll surpassing 190,000. and on capitol hill, republicans say they've received zero indication any health care plan is coming. it's bs, and you know that, one gop senator told cnn of trump's health care plan this week. trump's empty health care promise now expanse years, sparked by the gop failure in 2017 to repeal and replace obamacare. and exacerbated by the trump administration's decision to sign on to a legal effort to strike the law down altogether, even without a clear replacement in the waiting, despite another trump promise. >> if a law is overturned, that's okay, because the new law is going to have it in. >> reporter: but surrounding trump's bold, if empty promises, are two stark realities. first, republicans simply
haven't coalesced around a single proposal up to this point, including inside trump's own white house, where sources say advisers have battled over ideas for years, and settled, instead, on unilateral actions. and second, the politics of health care moved sharply against republicans. democrats in ad after ad after ad hammered republican efforts to repeal obamacare, and with it, its coverage of pre-existing conditions in 2018. republicans lost the house and trump pledged to reverse the slide, promising the gop would, quote, become the party of health care. republican candidates have moved forcefully to rebut the attacks. >> john will always protect everyone with pre-existing conditions. >> reporter: framing the issue in the most personal of terms. but it remains a top election issue. one democrats, polls say, continue to hold an advantage on. that more than anything else, according to aides, is why trump promised an executive order that
he said would protect pre-existing conditions. >> pre-existing conditions will be taken care of, 100%, by republicans and the republican party. >> so that promised executive order, as of today, still has not been signed or released. by the way, pre-existing conditions are protected as part of obamacare, which the republican party and the president has tried to overturn. we want to thank phil mattingly for that report. just the overall think we keep on pointing out, july 19th, the president said two weeks. >> that was a long time ago. >> that was seven weeks ago. >> yeah, tiktok. >> i'm not sure he maintain iea. >> you're beginning to doubt that timeline? >> i wonder if he says things sometimes -- >> that he doesn't mean? >> yeah. all right. football. actual football. last night, the super bowl champs, they played and it was what happened before the game that was very powerful. that's next. a migraine hope from aimovig.
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today is september 11th, and you are looking at live pictures of the pentagon. this morning, washington and shanksville, pennsylvania, and new york city commemorate the nearly 3,000 people who lost their lives on this day 19 years ago. president trump was in new york during that terrible time and he has told stories about his experience, but his stories about those days often include conspiracy theories. they remain unproven. cnn's john avlon, who was working for rudy giuliani at that time, has a reality check about all of this. >> today marks 19 years since 9/11. we see a president who likes to talk tough about radical islamic terrorism, resultly insulting the courage of the soldiers and
generals who have been fighting the war on terror ever since. so let's look back to see what donald trump was doing on 9/11, after the first responders ran into the fire. >> 40 wall street actually was the second tallest building in downtown manhattan. now it's the tallest. >> yes, he managed to use a tragic terrorist attack in realtime to pump up the size of his skyscraper. years later, trump bragged about being on the rubble of ground zero. >> everyone who helped clear the rubble, and i was there, and i watched, and i helped a little bit, you didn't know what was going to come down on all of us. >> there's no record of donald trump being at the pile at ground zero, but maybe he's conflating himself with people who work for him. it's a common rich guy mistake. but even that claim, that trump paid hundreds of guys to search through the rubble after the attack, would have to be false, because the ground zero perimeter was restricted in the days after the attacks. i remember, because i was working at city hall at the time. trump said he saw thousands of
muslims in new jersey celebrating the attacks. there's no evidence this happened. trump said he'd donate $10,000 to the twin towers fund. there's no record of that. there's actually no record of 9/11-related donations from the alleged billionaire before he ran for president. and with so many firefighter funerals held at st. patrick's cathedral, just four blocks from trump tower, there's also no record of trump attending a service to pay his respects. so if you're surprised by the "atlantic's" reporting that president trump said american soldier ws who died in wars are losers and suckers and didn't want to see disabled vets in his military parades, or that he denigrated dead marines buried in a world war i cemetery, or that he stood next to his former chief of staff, john kelly, at the grave of his son, robert kelly, who died in afghanistan, and said, i don't get it. what was in it for them? well, you're right to be
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we saw football last night. the nfl season actually began. a lot of people thought it wouldn't happen and we were already seeing differing paths on how teams plan to handle the beginning of the games and the national anthem. andy scholes has more in the bleacher report, live from kansas city, where there was live football, andy. >> yep, good morning, john. and part of the new nfl social justice initiative, the league is playing both the black national anthem, which is the song, lift every voice and sing, and the normal national anthem before games during week one. and the chiefs opted to stay on the field for both of those anthems while the texans decided to stay back in the locker room. a texas executive telling nbc that they didn't want to be seen as celebrating one while throwing shade at the other. but the chiefs all lining up together, standing at the goal line for that black national anthem and video tribute. then, one player, defensive end
alex oakfort kneeling during the national anthem with his fist raised in the air. and once the texans did eventually take the field, the players gathered together at midfield for a moment of unity. now, you heard some boos on the broadcast. i was in the stadium, i didn't hear any of the fans booing in the area where i was sitting. and j.j. watts said after the game, he didn't understand why anyone would boo that moment. >> the booing was unfortunate during that moment. i don't fully understand that. there was no flag involved, nothing involved with that other than two teams coming together to show unity. >> we want to show we're unified as a league and we're not going to let playing football distract us from what we're doing and making change in this world. >> as for the action on the field, andy reid battling a foggy face shield all game. his team picking up right where they left off.
patrick mahomes, three touchdown passes, clyde edwards, great debut, 138 yards. chiefs cruise to a 34-20 win over the texans. and this is the first game since the pandemic started. they had about 16,000 fans here at arrowhead. it seats 76,000. they were really spread out. i spoke to some of those fans. they all said they felt safe, felt like they could have packed in more fans safely into the stadium. the chiefs, one of two teams along with the jaguars this opening week that are going to have fans in the stands. >> best to be safe. andy scholes, glad you were there. glad you got a chance to see it. thanks so much for being with us. "new day" continues right now. >> i didn't lie. what i said is, we have to be calm. >> one day after bombshell recordings reveal the president intentionally downplayed the covid-19 threat, trump is claiming it was all about keeping americans from panicking. >> bob woodward, he didn't think it was bad, and he said he didn't think it was bad. >> you're the president. you don't get to