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continue to monitor that appearance there. thank you. our special coverage continues now with brooke bolduan. >> live pictures as biden is sitting in this church, holding this community gathering. this is after he has taken some time there, meeting with the family of james blake. we'll take you to kenosha and find out what exactly happened with that family conversation in just a moment. but on to covid, stay vigilant. take the necessary precautions. that is the message from the nation's top infectious disease expert, dr. anthony fauci, ahead of this long holiday weekend. during an interview on cnn this morning, dr. fauci pleaded with americans to be safe while you're out and about, enjoying labor day. >> we don't want to see a repeat of the surges that we have seen
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following other holiday weekends. we don't want to see a surge under any circumstances, but particularly as we go on the other side of labor day and enter into the fall, we want to go into that with a running start in the right direction. we don't want to go into that with another surge that we have to turn around again. >> dr. fauci's message comes as the united states surpasses 1,000 deaths in a day. cases are on the rise in 18 states, concentrated mostly in the midwest and the northeast. iowa, as we've been talking about the last couple of days, that is still a major concern, averaging its highest average number of daily infections since this pandemic began. and another state we're watching closely here is missouri. the white house coronavirus task force says that that state is in a red zone with high transmission and rural and urban communities as well as major college towns. and all of this is happening here as concerns grow that the trump administration will put politics over public health, by
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releasing a vaccine before it is deemed safe sbeskt iand effecti. cdc told states to prepare to disperse a vaccine as early as october despite the head of the nih saying it is unlikely that one can be ready by that time. pfizer says they could have enough data to know if their va vaccine is effective by the end of october. but all these conflicting headlines creating a lot of confusion for the timeline. cnn's elizabeth cohen, dr. fauci tried to clear up the confusion on vaccines here this morning on cnn. what did he say about the timeline? >> before i get into what dr. fauci said, which is so important i want to talk about why there is confusion. there's confusion because a vaccine trial is unpresident-electable. sometimes you get results faster than other times. it has to do with how quickly the people you gave shots to run into the virus in their daily
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life. you might have vaccinated a buvenlg of people who are going to go out and go to bars and not wear masks and get sick quickly. i hate to say it, because it sounds perverse, but for the sake of the trial, that would be great, because then you find out if it work. if you're going to vaccinate people who stay home and work, go out once a week and wear a mask, it will take a while to get answers in this trial. dr. fauci reflected all of that unknown. i've talked to him so many times over the years and he says to me, elizabeth, i don't have a crystal ball. that's basically what he's saying here. it's unlikely we'll have it in october, but he wouldn't ever use the word impossible. let's take a listen to what he had to say. >> if you look at the projection of the enrollment and the kinds of things you'll need to get a decision about whether the vaccine is safe and effective, most of us project that that's going to be by november, december, by the end of the year. could this be earlier? sure. so if someone comes out and says, you know, i'm going to shoot for the possibility that
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i'll get it by october, you can't argue strongly against that. it's unlikely, not impossible. most of the people feel it's going to be november, december. that does not mean that if there are a number of infections within a particular trial that allows you to make a decision sooner rather than later, it is conceivable that you could have it by october. though, i don't think that that's likely. >> now, i've spoken with numerous infectious disease experts, people who have run vaccine trials of their own. they say it's not unlikely that will happen in october. they say it's very, very, eke out a few more veries, very unlikely in october. pfizer is predicting they think they will have the data by the end of october. so at this point there is a bit of mystery to this. i think the general opinion is that dr. fauci is right. brooke? >> got you. elizabeth cohen, thank you. really focusing on kids and college, spread on virus on college campuses remains a huge
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problem. university of indiana in bloomington just ordered 30 fraternity and sorority chapters to quarantine because of what officials there are calling an alarming increase of covid cases within those houses. and this comes, as you just heard, dr. fauci sounds the alarm about the ongoing surge of cases among young people. >> what we're seeing now in states, for example, in montana, dakotas, michigan shall minnesota shall there's an uptick in positivity particularly young people 19 to 25. that's predictive, jim, that if they don't do the kinds of things we're talking about, we're going to see a surge. >> meantime white house coronavirus task force is recommending that missouri and iowa immediately close bars and implement mask mandates because of the infection spikes in those states, but both states refuse to do so. and they're not alone.
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look at this. as of august 17th, more than a dozen states, the ones you see in red, still do not have mask requirements, even though we know it is one of the easiest things we can all do to slow the spread of the virus. let's start there with dr. rob davidson, emergency room physician and executive director of the committee to protect medicare. good to see you. welcome back. on the point of masks, you know, as we showed, large parts of this country where there's still resistance to wearing masks, why do you think these states refuse to issue these mask mandates? and how big of a risk are these states taking by not doing so? >> hey, brooke. yeah, i think what you said is exactly right. it's an easy thing to do. that's why it's so baffling. it's simple. it does no harm. my kids wear them to school. my wife's a doctor. she wears hers at work all day long. i think very early on, wearing a mask became a political statement or not wearing a mask became a political statement.
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the president specifically expressed this, that he thought people were wearing them to kind of speak out against him and has refused to do that. and so i think the governors in these states, many of them are likely following down a path, most vocal based supporters that represent a significant minority of people, but they're very loud and these governors don't want to cross them. >> so politics, it seems, over public health. >> feels like it. >> dr. davidson, this upcoming weekend and the holiday, we've talked all over the summer we had this spike in cases because of memorial day and then on to the 4th of july. how concerned are you that there could be a spike coming out of this next labor day weekend and then what is your advice to americans who want to be, understandably, out and about, hanging out with friends and family but doing so safely? >> yeah. it feels like groundhog day. i remember being told by the vice president how wonderful it was that only young people were getting the virus in florida, texas, arizona in the early part
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of summer, and then all of those states became incredible hot spot spots, hospitals spilling out, deaths rising to unprecedented levels. that's obviously the concern. so i'm going to be outside, enjoying labor day like many people. i will wear a mask if i'm around anyone that isn't in my immediate family. we will maintain distance of six feet. being outside is the key. if people stay outside, if they wear masks around others besides their family and stay six feet apart, i think the risk is minimal. >> uh-huh. and also coming out of this labor day weekend, we know that amc theaters will be opening. we know that more than 100 additional movie theaters this weekend and states like california, new jersey, maryland, are relaxing restriction on movie theaters. theaters say they have implemented a series of safety measures. what would you tell people who want to go to the movies? >> well, listen, i don't want to get the movie industry against me but i will not be going to a movie theater any time soon. >> tell me why.
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>> they can mandate masks when you walk in the door but two hours when the lights are out, people are sitting in their seats. how do we know that people around us are still adhering to that mandate, even if they're a certain distance away, we know there could be aerosolization of this virus. if you're sitting in a room for two hours, we don't know about ventilation. i think that is an unnecessary risk that i'm not willing to take and, you know, if my patients ask me, i will advise them that as well. >> dr. rob davidson not going to the movies but, indeed, hanging out, outdoors on labor day monday. dr. davidson, thank you for all of that. nice to have you on. >> by the way, to all of you, cnn.com has just awesome resource resources to help answer your questions about coronavirus from masks to schools to the latest guidance from our favorite doctor, dr. sanjay gupta. go to cnn.com/reopening. >> as we showed you at the top of the show, and more live pictures from kenosha,
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wisconsin, former vice president joe biden is there, holdingy ameeting after talking to the family of jik object blake. also ahead, health experts are warning that the united states is not ready for a covid vaccine, even if we manage to get one this fall. let talk more about that. and police make an arrest in cyber attacks that have derailed virtual learning in miami for days. by the way, the suspect here is a 16-year-old student. you don't want to miss this. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. takes time. now there's powerwash dish spray it's the faster way to clean as you go just spray, wipe and rinse it cleans grease five times faster dawn powerwash. spray, wipe, rinse.
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jake okay blake was shot in the back, rekindling calls for racial justice across this country. joe biden along with his wife, jill, is in wisconsin. shimon prokopez. arlette saenz is there. it's a great opportunity for the former vice president to listen in. we'll talk about that in a second. can you tell me more of the conversation he had with the blake family? >> jay. brooke, as soon as joe biden arrived here in wisconsin, that was his first first order of business. he met privately with the blake family. his wife, jill biden, was also there.
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ja jacob blake's father, sister and two brothers were there in person as well as jacob blake's moth mother. she spoke to the former vice president over the phone. what biden has said he wanted to do today is offer healing to the community as they're grappling with that shooting of jacob blake and the protests that stemmed from the city. what we're seeing here is in the wake of george floyd's death, he traveled down to houston, met with the floyd family ahead of the funeral. he held a listening session in delaware with community leaders to hear people's concerns and that's what he's doing right now here inside a church in kenosha, wisconsin. biden is seated there, wearing a mask, listening to community leaders as they are voicing their concerns. and it gives you a bit of a glimpse of how biden would approach leadership, with were he to become president. from the very start of his campaign he has stressed he is a
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unifying figure that would try to bridge some of the divides in this country and that is something that he is hoping to portray here today and offer that contrast with president trump. >> now given all of that, shimon, i know that the former vice president says that the officer who shot jacob blake should be charged. we know that a federal civil rights investigation has been launched and yesterday listening to bill barr on our air without providing any evidence, saying that blake was, quote, in the midst of committing a felony. attorneys for the blake family say barr is misinformed. where do things stand in this investigation? >> reporter: they're still ongoing. that's the problem with what the attorney general did yesterday. it would seem, based on his interview that he did with our wolf blitzer, that the attorney general has already made up his mind about this investigation. he used the word that jacob blake was armed and that jacob blake was in the midst -- was in
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the act of committing a felony. those are two key words that can basically tell investigators and prosecutors who are going to be look at this investigation that these officers were justified in their actions. and that very much is still an ongoing investigation by the local authorities here. the state attorney general whose running an independent investigation is then going to turn over his findings to the local d.a., who is going to ultimately decide whether or not there was justification. but the problem now is that you have the attorney general who is running a parallel investigation seems to have already made up his mind without having all the facts. the family, of course, says that the attorney general is misinformed. what we do know, and what little information the attorney general here has released, the local attorney general, is that there was a knife and that mr. blake admitted to possessing the knife. but we don't know where in the confrontation the threat of a possible use of a knife against
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the officers, if that ever occurred. where does that occur? and what happens in those seconds when the officers are in the doorway of the vehicle that mr. blake was in, and the one officer pulls on his shirt and then there are several shots fired? what happens there? what leads into that? it's not clear and they haven't reve revealed, the investigators here, what they've found. that is the key point. those are the key moments we need more information on before anyone should be reaching any kind of conclusions here. >> we await to get that information. all great questions, shimon, thank you. let's listen in now to joe biden. >> that area goes right through my city. and i used to interview clients down in the basement of that train station before they were arraigned. and here i was, thinking that -- and we have the eighth largest black population and we were, to
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our great shame, a slave state although we were one of those border states who fought on the side of the north, thank god. but anyway, to make a long story short, what happened was i thought black and whites would never be in my city talking to each other again. and here i was then, literally, 40 years later to the month, on january 17th, standing on a platformat that very same train station and looking out over what we call the east side, which had been burned to the ground, literally. it had been completely leveled. when things get burnt out they come in and level everything. overwhelmingly 100% african-american community and i was standing on that platform january 17th, waiting for a black man to come 26 miles from philadelphia to pick me up and take me on a train ride to
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washington, d.c., with 10,000 people standing down below, cheering. and my son, beau, was alive then. he was the attorney general of the state of delaware at the time, and my daughter, who is a social worker, ran the largest criminal justice program in the state. and my son, my middle son, who was running the world food health program, world food program usa, largest program in the world. and i called them up. it all of a sudden hit me. here i was, and that whole area has been rebuilt. and the third street bridge is still in a little bit of trouble, but things have moved and i said don't tell me things can't change. i told them about the story. am i violating social distance here walking up? i guess i am.
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sorry. yeah. i said don't tell me things can't change. and i told the story, reminded them what it was when i was a young attorney. but i made a mistake about something. i thought you could defeat hate. hate only hides. it only hides. and when someone in authority breathes oxygen under that rock, it legitimizes those folks to come on out. come out from under the rocks. and i hadn't planned on running for anything again after my son had died. i was a professor in college and running a program in another college. till i saw those people come out in charlottesville, carry iing torches, literally torches, coming out of the fields. close your eyes. their veins bulging, their
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hate-filled speech, chanting the same anti-semitic bile that was chanted in the streets of germany in the '30s. and on top of that, accompanied by white supremacists, ku klux klan, young woman was killed protesting those folks. and the president of the united states was asked, he was asked, what do you think? and he said, quote, something no president has ever, ever said. he said there are very fine people on both sides. no president has ever said anything like that. the generic point i'm making is not all his fault, but it legitimizes, it legitimizes the dark side of human nature. what it did, though, it also exposed what had not been paid enough attention to, the underlying racism that is institutionalized in the united
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states, still exists, has existed for 400 years. and so what's happened is that we end up in a circumstance like you had here in kenosha and have here in kenosha. but, you know, i am, as my -- i had a serious operation years ago, neurosurgeon gave me a relatively small chance of making it. after it was all over, i said i'll be fine. he said do you know what your problem is, senator? you're a congenital optimist. we have an enormous opportunity now that the screen, the curtain has been pulled back. guess what's going on in the count count country, to do a lot of really positive things. as much as they say that, you know, black lives matter has lost some standing since the president has gone on this rant about, you know, law and order,
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et cetera, still you have over 50% of the american people supporting it. it was up to 78. that's never happened before. people are beginning to see, because of covid, who the people are outbreaking their necks, risking their lives to keep them safe in their homes. you know that old definition of a firefighter. god made man and then he made a couple of firefighters. you either became a firefighter or a priest and i wasn't qualified for either so here i am. but all kidding aside, think of what's happened. think of all the people. who are all those people? you got over 6,000 young dreamers, quote unquote, dreamers in the hispanic community who, in fact, are on the front lines dealing with covid. you have all those folks working in the supermarket, stacking the shelves, making five, six, seven bucks an hour.
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in fact, they're mostly minorities, african-americans, latinos. people are beginning to figure out who we are as a country. this is not who we are. this is not who we are. so the first point i want to make to you all is i am not pessimistic. i'm optimistic about the opportunity, if we seize e goin an hour. no one should have to work two jobs just to make it. that's not right in america. two jobs just to be above the poverty rate, above the poverty level? prison reform. my view is we should turn prison reform. i've been preaching this for the last five years. from prison punishment to reform. so, for example, anybody serves their time in prison, when they get out, they should be entitled to every single program that exists in the federal government. why don't we want them getting a pell grant going to school?
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why don't we want them getting a job and being able to get public housing subsidies? why don't we want them qualifying for what used to be called food stamps? right now i wrote years ago with a guy named specter, senator from pennsylvania, the second chance act. right now we're in a situation where you get out of prison, i think you all know this. you get a bus ticket, and 25 bucks. by the way, 93% of everybody -- 93 out of every 100 prisoners are behind a city jail acres county jail, a state jail, not a federal prison. barack and i were able to reduce the prison population federally by 38,000 folks. anybody who gets convicted of a drug crime, not one that is in terms of massive selling but consumption, they shouldn't go to prison. they should go to mandatory rehabilitation. instead of building more prisons, i've been proposing for some time we build rehabilitation centers,
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mandatory. they've got to go to mandatory rehab. but it's not part of their record when they get out if they finish it, because the point you made, you get a record and it stays with you. sorry, you can't get the job because you did the following. even if it's a misdemeanor. we shouldn't be putting anybody in jail for that. we should find ourselves in a situation where housing -- right now in the united states of america, we don't have the kind of housing funding we had back in our administration before that, even in republican administrations. no one should have to pay more than 30% of their income to be able to live and have housing, including people on the street. that's why i proposed the $400 billion program to vastly increase housing in america. by the way it's not a waste of money. even the folks on wall street point out that would increase the gdp, make it grow. people would do better. people would do better. hard as the devil for any of your clients who are black to
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get an entrepreneurial business loan. all the studies show they're just as qualified to be able to succeed as anyone else is. barack and i put together a program that was $1.5 billion that brought $30 billion off the sidelines and we provide that program for the local small business association so you can go and apply because, guess what, if you get a loan and then the private sector says, hey, he has government backing. we're going to join him. we'll get in to deal with him, or her. we're going to move that to $150 billion, fundamentally changing where we go. i'm giving you too much. i can see you're about to stand up. mental health, mental health is a badly needed commodity right now. that's why in the affordable care act we insisted it be treated equally. there's no difference between a mental health problem and a physical health problem. they're both related to your health. they should be both covered.
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talked about the whole tea of federal support, you know, clinics and, you know, we need community clinics. you guys are expected to do everything right now. barb, you talked about, you know, rebuilding. you know what? let's get something straight here. protesting is protesting. my buddy, john lewis used to say, but none of it justifies looting, burning or anything else. so, regardless of how angry you are, if you loot or burn, you should be held accountable as someone who done anything else, period. it's just not -- it just cannot be tolerated across the board. and, angela, you know, you talk about the whole issue of sentencing. one of the things i proposed is that we make sure that prosecutors are able to list what the option of charges are given them. for example if you're a white
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guy that can afford a lawyer and you're charged with a crime, you're not charged with nine crimes and given nine alternatives and say if you plead to the least one, we're going to put you on probation, and you have no lawyer. or you have a public defender who is getting paid half the federal prosecutor is getting paid. public defenders are going to get paid the same amount as prosecutors are going to get paid so they have representation. once you get that on your record, you've got a real problem. well, two people show up for a job. you have that thing you pled to. you weren't guilty of any of it, but rather than run the risk of going to jail for five years, you pled to get out from under anything and took probation. that happens all the time. that's why we have to have the federal department of justice, which is not much of a department of justice right now, have the ability to go and look at the methods used by
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prosecutors and their offices how they, in fact, deal with sentencing and what they do. there's a lot more to say, but i probably already said too much except that there's a lot we're able to do. the public is ready to do these things. i promise you. i promise you. last piece, education. the idea in the united states of america, your education is determined by your zip code. title i schools. you all know what a title i school is, mostly in black and hispanic neighborhoods but also in poor white neighborhoods where they can't afford the tax base. title i schools can get $15 billion a year to make up for the $200 billion gap that exists between them and other school districts, white school districts. guess what? we move that to $45 billion a year, it means i can put every 3, 4 and 5-year-old in school, in school.
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we've learned a lot in the last eight years. every major university, prestigious university in the country points out it increases 38% that the chances that child, no matter what home they came from, will get through all 12 years of school. it will also insist we provide for -- right now we have one school psychologist for every 1505 kids in america. we know now that about 60% of a child's brain is developed by the time they reach that age. and anxieties exist with children that can be identified early is able to be dealt with, anxiety. but they don't do it now because they don't -- they can't pick it up. and their situation, again, when you do that, we know. we know that the most at-risk generation for the first time in american history is the z generation. they have the greatest degree of anxiety of any generation all the way up the scale, no matter where they are. we've also learned with this -- i know, you're getting too
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antsy. sit down, man. but it is important. here is the deal. if you think about it, we finally figured out drug abuse doesn't cause mental health problems. mental health problems cause drug abuse. and if you don't detect the anxiety in children early and deal with it and treat it, you increase exponen tichlt ally the fact that they'll find themselves susceptible to what's happening in the community. the generic point i'm making is there's so much we could do. so much we can do. and we can do it just by eliminating the tax cut for the top one-tenth of 1%, it's done nothing to help anybody. 19 corporations making a billion dollars a piece don't pay a
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single penny in taxes. i don't want to punish anybody, but everybody should pay a fair share. not going to lay it out for you now because they'll shoot me but here's the deal. i pay for every single thing i'm proposing without raising your taxes one penny. make less than 400 grand you're not going to get a penny taxed and you're going to get a tax cut if you make under $125,000. it's not that we can't do this. we have been willing to do this. but i think the public is ready. i'll do whatever you tell me, boss. >> you are the boss. i know when my dad would tell me to sit down, i sat down. so i'm good. i'm good. >> joe biden there in kenosha, speaking to members of the community there. you could hear him addressing point by point by point on his notes, just questions, concerns from folks there who have been able to speak up about, you know, their children and education and mental health. he's there in the wake of the jacob blake shooting.
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he has met with the family today and was mentioning charlottesville. when joe biden announced he wanted to run for president, what did he say? he wants to fight for the soul of this nation. and that is precisely what he's trying to do to make his case to become the next president of the united states. coming up here on cnn, cdc is calling for states to get ready for a potential vaccine. health experts warn getting it out there will not be easy. one of those experts will join me next. that's why there's new dayquil severe honey. it's maximum strength cold and flu medicine with soothing honey-licious taste. dayquil honey. the daytime coughing, aching, stuffy head, fever, power through your day medicine. priceline can save you up to 60% on top hotels. and when you save up to 60%... let's play. you're always a winner.
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as the u.s. coronavirus caseload sits above a staggering 6 million, a vaccine is widely seen as the only way to stop a spread and return to some semblance of normalcy. according to the cdc, we may be closer to that vooks even than we thought, putting states on alert to become ready. how do we get 330 million vaccine doses distributed across the country? health officials, including my next guest, are scratching their heads a bit. vanderbilt school of medicine,
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dr. moore, welcome to you. maybe, maybe, could be ready by october. why are you concerned that states won't be ready by then? >> well, the thing that we're focusing on getting done by the end of october really is getting our distribution system ready. we've been working on pandemic planning. i was involved in that as early as 2005, and planning in generalities for vaccinating the public against a pandemic disease like this one. but now we're finally getting the specifics about this vaccine against this disease, and there's some real challenges facing us. the storage conditions, frozen vaccines, needing two doses. all of those things we're finally getting the specifics on. only now are we able to start really planning the specific things we need to do to get vaccine in the arms of people as soon as the vaccine is approved by the fda. >> so if this happens to end of october, i'm just cutting to the chase, will the states be ready to administer the vaccine? >> the states are working right
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now, as you may know, deadline focuses the mind. they're focused on that end of october with their checklists and looking at what do they need to get done first in order to be prepared as soon as a vaccine is ready, that there's not a delay in getting it to the people who need it most. the good news is our first priority recipients are probably going to be health care professionals who are located in facilities we can identify and get those early small doses to them relatively easy. >> health care workers first, maybe older, more vulnerable folks perhaps second. what do you say to people who say hey, great. can't wait for the vaccine, but i don't want to be the guinea pig first. what do you say? >> it's fair that people have questions about the vaccines, how well they will work and what their side effect profiles will look like. i have questions, too, and we're learning answers from the phase three clivengal trials that are going on right now. as we get the answers from those
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trials, it's our job in public health to educate the public about what we know and to be honest about what we don't know to eeququi equip them to make t possible decisions. >> the public health as the public deserves honesty. thank you for saying that. dr. kelly moore, good luck. thank you. >> thanks. coming up, a 16-year-old student under arrest in connection with cyber attacks shut down miami-dade virtual learning platform. now, simparica trio simplifies protection.
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in florida, a 16-year-old high school student is under arrest related to cyber attacks that have interrupted online school for three days straight. rosa flores is in miami. rosa, 16-year-old? what charges definitely other bad actors. but as to the 16-year-old, he was arrested and charged on two counts. first, computer use, in an attempt to defraud, and also interference with an educational institution. according to investigators he was arrested at 3:00 a.m. this morning. at that time he confessed to at least eight of the cyber attacks, what authorities called distributed denial, imagine a million people knocking at your
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door at once bottlenecking the system. according to investigators the teenager's computer and gaming system taken into evidence. according to fbi and law enforcement what investigators are doing right now, they are scouring through these devices following the digital fingerprint and digital roadmap trying to figure out exactly what happened. you've got to remember, this student is a student with a user name and password. that facilitating the activity. authorities say he's not the only alleged attacker. there are dozens of attacks and he's only admitted to eight. some of the other ip addresses according to authorities trace back to other countries including russia, ukraine, china and iraq. now, brooke, there is a lot to unpack here. this is early in the investigation. but authorities say they don't know the motive. they don't know if he was working alone. they do know he's back at home.
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they have taken his computer. they do know the next time he faces a judge it's going to be on october 8th. brooke. >> rosa, thank you. as this devastating pandemic is very clear, virtually no community has escaped this virus and that includes the nation's law enforcement. according to a new report on the job covid infections responsible for more than 100 officer deaths. accounting for fatalities than gun violence, car accidents and others combined. ceo of national law enforcement memorial fund. marsha, i was just reading about this yesterday. i don't think people fully appreciate this. the data came down from the officer down nonprofit, and that organization says it's in the process of verifying an additional 150 officer deaths because of the virus. this is a quote i sent out to my team. this is "the washington post" quote. by the end of this pandemic it's very likely covid will pass 9/11 as the single largest incident cause of death for law
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enforcement officers. why, marsha, is this happening and what can officers do to stop it. >> yes, brooke, that is a fact. the national law enforcement officer's memorial fund, we are the leading authority on all line-of-duty deaths and we have been for the last 30 years. currently, and this is changing daily, all these calculations are coming in. some came in today. we're currently knowing 106 total covid-19 related law enforcement deaths which we have 14 confirmed. when i say we have 14 confirmed, let me clarify that. that's 14 departments that submitted their paperwork. by the end of the fourth quarter of 2020, we'll be far sur passing the 106 we see today. >> and why? sheer obvious officers out on
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the streets exposure? >> you know, our law enforcement officers are putting themselves into high-risk covid-19 situations daily. what our citizens can do to keep community safe, family safe, law enforcement safe is to first not gather in groups. secondly if you're in need of law enforcement to please let them know during that 911 call what they are looking into and if there's any covid-19 situations they are going to find. >> i was reading officers also in correctional facilities accounting for a substantial number of covid-related deaths. what does that, marsha, signal to you about the state of prisons in our country. >> it's true, overcrowding of prisons. correction officers are highly susceptible to contracting covid-19, that is true. but also the other interesting piece is we're getting the largest numbers out of texas from the criminal justice
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department. currently we have 12 of those that have recently hit our research department. brooke, we go through a very stringent review of all of these cas cases. all include doctors, law enforcement professionals as well as other experts. at the end of the year we will be providing the final results of all law enforcement line of duty related deaths. >> good. i'm glad you are. i'm glad you're taking count. i feel like we've covered so many groups of people so susceptible who have been getting so sick. law enforcement out there doing their jobs. as a result, you know, getting -- many of them getting covid. marsha, thank you so much for shining a spotlight and coming on with me. i appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> you got it. coming up, joe biden's visit to kenosha, wisconsin. here he is again.
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live pictures as he's at the community gathering at a church where he just accused trump of legitimize's hatred, racism in the u.s. earlier he visited with jacob blake's family. more on biden's visit coming up. . your knowledge of victorian architecture really paid off this time. nah, just got lucky. so did the thompsons. that faulty wiring could've cost them a lot more than the mudroom. thankfully they bundled their motorcycle with their home and auto. they're protected 24/7. mm. what do you say? one more game of backgammon? [ chuckles ] not on your life. [ laughs ] ♪ when the lights go down
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welcome to "the lead"" i'm pamela brown in for jake tapper. stocks on dow jones industrial falling. take a look here, about 800 points after a streak of record
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setting days over the past several weeks. i want to go straight to alison kos kosik. allison, what's behind this? >> we saw investors make a mad dash today because they wanted profits off the table after a record run for stocks over the past week despite the pandemic. this big u-turn for stocks happening as s&p 500 and nasdaq yesterday hit fresh record highs. it's like investors woke up this morning and realized stocks were overpriced. there's also uncertainty coming back into the fold. uncertainty about the economic