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good thursday morning to you. i'm jim sciutto. get a vaccine game plan ready and early. that's what the cdc is telling states and major cities, instructing them to be ready to distribute a vaccine as soon as late october, but with potentially millions of americans taking a vaccine, health experts are warning now is not the time to rush the science, to get this through those crucial trials early. dr. anthony fauci is also
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pleading with americans not to let their guard down heading into the labor day weekend, especially as we're seeing cases spike across the midwest, and we did see cases spike after previous summer holiday weekends. just minutes from now i'm going to speak with dr. fauci live to discuss this and many other questions that i'm sure you share and this. joe and jill biden traveling to kenosha, wisconsin today, this after the shooting of jacob blake and just after that the shooting deaths of two protesters allegedly by 17-year-old armed vigilante. the bidens will meet with blake's family, something that president trump did not do on his visit there. all this as mr. trump is now threatening to cut federal funding to several democrat-led cities and states on the grounds. their leaders are allowing anarchy, violence and destruction. he did not make that threat to the cities of minneapolis and kenosha, both in key swing states that the president hopes to win in november. first, let's go to cnn medical
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correspondent elizabeth cohen on the cdc telling public health officials to prepare to distribute a vaccine by november. of course, that timing raising some eyebrows because the president has mentioned the possibility of having one before the election. is this rushing the science? are the scientists following the science or politics here? what's happening? >> you know, it's all -- it's all -- there's so many different nuances here. let me pull this one out here. when the cdc says, hey, look, you know, be ready to distribute by early november. that doesn't mean there will be a vaccine by early november. it's standard when you're doing pandemic planning or any kind of planning for an emergency or a crisis situation to get people ready earlier rather than later. let's take a look at what the cdc said. they said that they would have limited covid-19 vaccine doses that may be available by early november 2020, but covid-19 vaccine supplies will increase substantially in 2021. does that mean that there will
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be a vaccine by election day? not necessarily. are some people a little suspicious. gee, why are they sort of putting this out there so early? is it just a part of pandemic planning, or is there something else going on here? are they trying to say, see, look, we'll have something by election day in order to help the president. in a way, it's really in the eye of the beholder. jim? >> we've seen meddling like this before. it's a genuine concern. so tell us about the surge in cases we're seeing in midwestern states. you know, one region after another has sort of followed, you know. no one is immune from this. is this largely about college campuses, or is it other things? >> you know, to some extent it is and to some extent, jim, it's exactly what you just said is that it's just moving across the country. think of it as like a snake swallowing that mouse. that mouse just moves, went from new york city to places like texas and florida and now we're seeing it in in the midwest. we would surprised if we didn't see it, right? this is a virus, does what virus
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eds do which is go from person to person and region to region. let's take a look at some of the numbers in iowa. what we're seeing in iowa it's now considered a red zone by the white house coronavirus task force, a 77% increase in cases from the previous weeks and that's 232 cases per 100,000 people. nationally it's 88 cases her 100,000 people, so you can see that that is a big difference. and let's take a look, you mentioned college campuses. certainly quite a bit going on there. university of iowa, illinois state, university of missouri, iowa state, all have more than 600 cases since the beginning of the semester. jim? >> elizabeth cohen, thanks for bringing us the numbers. in just a minute, a few minutes, i'll speak with dr. anthony fauci about a whole host of topics. i'm sure you're interested as well including the search for a coronavirus vaccine and the timeline. in iowa, as cases surge and as concerns grow from the white house coronavirus task force, the governor is not issuing a
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mask mandate. cnn's omar jimenez is in des moines with more. the science is showing more and more evidence that masks make a real difference here so what's holding the governor back? >> reporter: well, the governor at this point, the basic line of reasoning from her stabbed point is they were able to decrease the amount of numbers without the mask mandate earlier in the year and she's hoping to use some of the similar strategies but at that point they were putting safer at home orders and shelter in place. this time around she's pointing the blame to young adults, saying that that's been the reason for why we've seen number of cases rise, the positivity rate and even the hospitalizations in some cases as well. the white house coronavirus task force actually labeled iowa as the highest new case rate in the entire country, and with that they put in place recommendations to institute a statewide mask mandate but also to close pars as well which the
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governor says they have done in some cases tied to locations with higher positivity rates but it's been a no on the mask mandate, and she went on to say this. >> i still believe it's up to the governors in the various state to make those decisions. sometimes they don't have the entire picture of the things that we're doing. >> reporter: part of why she's been reluctant to put in place that mandate is because she says they know where these cases are coming from. she specifically is trying to look at college campuses and the locations in and around that, and in one county, for example, that has university of iowa or 74% of the cases there are tied to people ages 19-25. jim? >> a lot of states running into this h.thanks very much. the state of ohio is also seeing a surge in new coronavirus infections. the university of dayton now has one of the largest outbreaks of any college in that state. joining me now is the mayor of
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dayton ann whaley, serving as the vice president of the u.s. conference for mayors. i'm sure you're having a lot of conversations in that conference about how to respond to all this. welcome to the show, as always. >> thanks, jim. good to be on. >> so let's talk about everything in the university of data. 770 cases with an enrollment of just under 9,000 so it's big even when you compare it to a much larger university like ohio state. why is that, what are you learning? what were the mistakes made, do you think? >> well, honestly, i think what the university of dayton did was good in that they tested every single person with the pcr test, and so as we've learned more about this test we know that you can get a positive for months after you received or had the coronavirus that sits in the back of your nasal passage so we think that is a lot of some of this, but also we recognize that we have young people that are excited to see their friends and maybe a little too excited to see their friends, and that's opinion a big challenge for the
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university to get them to really sit in place. >> yeah. i've heard that about campuses around the country. i wonder, what do you think is the right response here? when you see, i don't know, if outbreak is the right word, when you see a surge in cases like that on a campus, i mean, is the right response to say we've got to shut things down and take another look at this, or do you test, isolate, contact trace? >> well, certainly i think we're looking at it every day. i know i talk to the president of the ian every day as well as our public health folks here in dayton and montgomery county. one of the other things for the university of dayton, it's a private institution, and students come from multiple states and people are not interested in sending them back home to other cases with coronavirus i think would be not a really smart move. they are doing all their classes online virtually now, and so really the -- the enforcement of making sure they stay in their
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spot for these next few weeks is going to be really, really important. we plan on sharing that message both with the university as well as the city giving that message to the university as well. >> do you think the universities like dayton are getting their risk/reward balance right? no one wants any infections but, in fact, it's a virus, it's spreads, and the question is how far and how do you joel it and so on? >> what do you think the right balancing is with these universities beyond saying you can't go to a party like it's 2019. it just does not work. >> yeah. do not party like it's 2019. it's a really difficult situation. i feel pore people in higher ed and k-through where each decision has ramifications. i think access to rapid testing would make this a lot easier and go a lot better. i think that could be a big difference in the coming months,
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but, you know, trying to balance this effort of education with folks on the ground is very difficult. i know it the university and its staff have done an amazing job. i think the students are starting to learn the hard way, as i like to call it, about what would happen here, and i hope that we can -- and, you know, they are starting to plateau at the university. we hope that stays and the students really understand the severity of this issue. >> for sure. >> can't be repeated often enough. mayor whaley, thanks so much for coming back on the show. >> good to see you, jim. well, as the cdc pushes, states prepare for a coronavirus vaccine before election day, what happened if a lot of people don't want to take it pause they don't trust the process? i'll speak to dr. anthony fauchy about that and other key questions. vice president biden heads to kenosha today and will make with jacob blake's family unlike
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well, right now presidential candidate joe biden is on a plane departing for kenosha, wisconsin. he'll host a community meeting, part of an effort, his campaign says, to bring americans together. the former vice president and his wife dr. jill biden will also meet with the family of jacob blake, the black man shot by place in the back there, a step president trump did not
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take on his visit. arlette saenz and shimon prokupecz are following all of this. tell us about the meeting with the community leaders and if they are welcoming this by the former vice president? >> well, joe biden is coming here to kenosha, wisconsin with a message of healing. he says he'll be meeting with community leaders, business leaders and law enforcement during another local meeting. he's having, he and his wife jill biden are beating with the packly of jacob blake. >> this meeting presents a contrast with president trump's trip. he didn't stitt down with the blake family and didn't mention jacob blake's name here when he was meeting here. what biden is trying to do is
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offer himself as a unifying figure. he's portrayed himself as someone who can. >> ow night the country as he had the various stakeholders that he says will offer healing to people. yesterday biden, during a press conference in wilmington, delaware, was asked whether he believes the officers involved in the shooting of jacob blake in wisconsin should be charged. he says the judicial system needs to play out and at a minimum there is a need for charges. as he's coming to this community today trying to offer healing and unity after a week of tension. >> a tough balance to strike. i know you'll be watching it. also shimon prokupecz here. yesterday on cnn the attorney general bill barr to our colleague wolf blitzer, he made
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somements about the jacob blake case that seemed to attached judgments to ongoing investigations. >> reporter: not only judgments, but the attorney's office is running a parallel investigation to civil rights violation, already out there making judgments saying jacob blake was armed, saying that the police were there to arrest him on a felony, that all of this, you can argue, these are key turns when investigators look whether or not there's justification for a police officer shooting an individual. terms like armed. terms like he was in the middle of committing a felony. those kinds of key terms signals that authorities certainly at the department of justice are thinking that this was a justified shooting, and the problem with that is that this
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investigation is still very much ongoing at the local level. as to the armed situation, that probably relates to the knife obviously because the investigators here have said they found the knife in mr. blake's vehicle. they found it on the driver's side, on the floor board and they say that jacob blake admitted to them that he possessed the knife. the family denies. they say they have different information, they think that the attorney is mischaracterizing and sort of giving it more worth than it is, and that they argue that the investigation is still very early. the knife is the key thing, and the key moment in the middle of this shooting, what led up to it? what justifies the officers in firing at jacob blake? that's still at the center of this investigation by local authorities. jim? >> sitting attorney general seeming to inject himself making a judgment. shimon prokupecz, arlette saenz, thanks to both of you.
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over the past several months as you've witnessed nationwide protests have called for an end to systemic racism in policing. yesterday though the attorney, william barr, of course, the top law enforcement official in this country, doubted that that exists. have a listen. >> i think the narrative that the police are on some, you know, epidemic of shooting unarmed black men is simply a false narrative and also the narrative that that's based on race. >> well, let's not talk about a narrative. let's talk about facts. according to the office of police equity officer are more likely to use force on black people than white people and black men are nearly three times more likely than white men to be killed by police intervention. those are the numbers, those are the studies. police have a hard job to do for sure. what we're looking as though is the data hand what we're seeing in the behavior across the
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country. what we've seen evidence in kenosha and minneapolis and louisville across the country. we'll continue to follow facts. keep your guard up. that's the warning from health experts as we head into the holiday weekend. what do americans need to do to keep this weekend from leading to another speak in infections? the nation's top infectious disease expert, you might have heard of him. dr. anthony fauci, joins us next. [tv announcer] come on down to our appliance superstore where we've got the best deals on refrigerators, microwaves, gas ranges and grills. and if you're looking for... your business has an easy choice.t-mobile for business, where we've got the best deals on refrigerators, microwaves, the largest 5g network... award-winning customer satisfaction... insanely great value. choose. any. three. ready when you are. that's your weathered deck, crying for help. while you do nothing, it's inviting those geese over for target practice.
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welcome back. the cdc is taking steps to have a vaccine ready as soon as election day, but some health experts remain skeptical. the agency is telling states to prepare for distribution as soon as late october, but the director of the national institute of health says that is unlikely. so what's the truth? joining me now director at the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases dr. anthony fauci. dr. fauci, thanks so much for joining the program again. >> good to be with you again. >> listen, i know the news is coming in all the time as folks take a closer look at the various vaccine candidate. you've been consistent for weeks and months saying it's possible as soon as the end of this year.
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we now have the ceo of pfizer saying he should have enough data by the end of october. i'm curious. have you seen any data that has you moving up a likely time line for a workable vaccine? >> these are all guest mats, jim. i mean, if you look at the projection of the enrollment and the kinds of things you'll need to get a decision about whether the vaccine is safe and effective, most of us project that that's going to be by november and december, by the end of this year. could this be earlier? sure, so if someone comes out and says, you know, i'm going to shoot for the possibility that i'll get it by october. you can't argue strongly against that. that's unlikely, not impossible. i think most of the people feel it's going to be november/december, but that does not mean that if there are a number of infections within a particular trial that allows you to make a decision sooner rather than later, it is conceivable that you could have it by october, though i don't think that that's likely. >> okay.
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should folks in light of the fact that the end of october happens to be not coincidentally a few days before an election, and there has been evidence of politics getting in the way of the science here, should folks at home listening right now be concerned that politics are influencing the typeline for a vaccine? >> you know, i don't think so, jim. i mean, the fda has been very explicit that they are going to make a decision based on the data as it comes in. you know, she is -- these trials have these independent data and safety monitoring boards that intermittently look at the data. >> yeah. >> and they are the ones that are independent individuals. those data will ultimately become public, and so -- i mean, if there is the kind of thing that people are concerned about, it will become public sooner or later, so i think that we can have some confidence and have faith in what the fda is saying. they are saying very explicitly that they are going to be making the decision based on the scientific data, and we hope
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that that's going to be the case. >> are you confident that data will make this decision? >> data has always been the thing that's driven me and my colleagues here at the nih as well as fda. the fda and the cdc, they are data-driven organizations, so i think the people can feel confident that when these data come in they will be examined appropriately, and a decision will be made. remember, there are outside groups that are going to be involved in this, jim. >> yeah. >> and i think people need to understand that. it's not going to be just independently. of course, they have advisory groups who will look over the data. >> you yourself, if and when a vaccine is improved, would you have any hesitation to take it yourself or for members of your family? >> oh, no, not at all, jim. i will look at the data and i would assume and i'm pretty sure that that's going to be the case, that a vaccine would not be approved for the american public unless it was both indeed safe and effective, and i keep emphasizing, both safe and
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effective. if that's the case, jim, i would not hesitate for a moment to take the advantages even myself and recommend it for myself. >> okay. another topic. the public has herd mixed and sometimes contradictory messages on key health questions regarding the outbreak, the seriousness of the outbreak and also treatments for the outbreak. you're aware of them, did i agreements over the usefulness of hydroxychloroquine, questions over how useful exactly convalescent plasma is and even now questions about cdc guidelines on who should be tested and when. let's go down those, if we can. one, on convalescent plasma, is that a useful treatment for covid-19? >> right. right now the data do not indicate strongly one way or the other. it the has an leeway so that people if like it they could get it. we're still waiting for the clinical trials to prove up way or the other whether it's safe and effective.
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it looks almost certainly that it's safe. the real question is how effective is this, and that will have to wait the proper clinical trials? >> okay. cdc guidelines, as you know, it changed its guidelines on testing to say those who are asymptomatic need not get tested even if they have been exposed. >> right. >> the way the language is and you know this but for voters who do not know, you do not need a test until you're vulnerable or your health care provider recommend that you take one. is the that a smart change? >> well, that sentence i think we all admit and the cdc has now clarified it, jim. the sentence in a vacuum the way it rode gave the impression, which was clearly open to misinterpretation, that that means that they are not concerned about community spread and that they are not concerned about testing people who are without symptoms. let's clarify that. community spread is important.
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poem white house symptoms do spread the infection and we should be testing people under certain action should be test. unfortunately, no doubt about it, there was a misunderstanding but now the cdc has clarified it. >> all people exposed or some? >> right now certainly, if you have an actionable situation where there is an exposure that's prolonged and consistent with someone who is infected and you are without symptoms, you should get test it had. that's what i recommend. >> no question about that. >> fair enough. listen to dr. fauci. i want to listen to schools here. i'm a parent. three kids largely being educated at home and i'm sure lots of folks listening right now have gone through the same thing. you've consistently said that in areas where communities have the outbreak under control, so-called green zones that meet certain metrix, a positive rate rate below a safer standard,
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it's possible for schools to reopen for in-person instruction with mitigation, and yet we've seen in many communities that have met those standards they are still doing only online learning. i wonder if you think that that's a mistake. >> i don't want to be pejorative saying people are making mistakes and i stick by what i've said before. obviously, it isn't all back or white or yes and no. in general, if you're in a green zone where you have a very hoe level of tests positivity you can open the school with impunity and know what to do. if you rhett into the yellow and red zones. in the ed zones things become problematic because what we're seeing is many teachers and parents are deciding by their feet saying we won't send our
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children in if we have a red hot zone. >> what's your message to teachers, i wonder, because you see new york, they have met the green zone teachers but many teachers are saying i'm too compared to go in. that make particularly vulnerable. others was well, to give them confidence that this would be be a acceptable risk. >> need to accept raet those with understand lying conditions. you have to respect the concerns of people with underlying persons. you have to respect that personal concern. if someone is concerned you have to respect the fact that they may not want to be there, but for others who are generally healthy without underlying medical conditions i would encourage them to go and begin the in-person teaching because obviously even though i've given a lot of caveats over the last weeks and months, fundamentally we should do the best that we can to get the children back to
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school because we know very well of the deleterious consequences upon them if we keep them out of school. >> understood, and i think a lot of families they are seeing that. i want to talk about labor day weekend. data has consistently shown on holiday weekend, for member yeah and july 4th. people want to travel and see friends. we see a spike in cases. what do you say to folks as tomorrow they hit the road, how to keep themselves safe or they should not be traveling at all. >> jim, thanks for the opportunity to make a plea to the american public. we don't want to see a repeat of the sujs we've seen following holiday weekend. that doesn't mean you have to lock yourself in a room and not enjoy what hopefully will be a nice weekend for people, but there are certain fundamental things that you can do and still enjoy yourself. the things that i've spoken about so often, the wearing of
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the masks, the physical distancing and the avoiding crowds, trying to keep gatherings outside much, much, much more preferable than indoors. we're seeing now in certain states. montana, dakotas, michigan and minnesota. there's an tyke in young people, between the ages of 18-25 and these predictive, jim, that if they don't do the things we're talking about we'll see a surge. important for two reasons. we don't want to see a surgenor a couple of reason. we don't want to enter the fall, we want to start in the right direction. we don't want to go into that with another surge that we have to turn around again so it really is an important weekend. >> understood. we will share that information widely and broadly. i want to ask you this because, listen, folks are used to hearing a lot of concern
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about this very understandably. what is the best development, the best news that you've seen in recent weeks about the response to this, that should give some people hope as we get into, you know, the seventh, eighth month of this outbreak. i think there's good news in two areas, in the mick result area. >> when we do have cities and areas that abide by the public health mandates that i'm speaking about today, they do in fact turn around the surges and blunt any surges. that the tells me that we can do it. we've proven that you can actually control the outbreak. to me that's good news, even though there are certain areas of the country that are hot. we know if they -- the other thing is vaccines. we now have thee vaccines in
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e welcome back. the white house is threatening to withhold federal funding from several notably democratic-led cities all located in blue states, that the president is not really contesting in the november election. his justification claiming that the leaders there are allowing anky, violence and destruction. i would recommend visiting some of these cities to test the president's allegations. cnn's john harwood joins me with more. john, minneapolis, kenosha, wisconsin, minneapolis, minnesota, of course, they were left off that list because those are crucial battleground states. ex. >> reporter: exactly. what the president is trying to do is mobilize, especially in the battleground states, core supporters that are white working class voters, a lot of them in minneapolis and wisconsin and if you live in those states and you're a white working class trump supporter you don't want funds withheld from your state, even if it's from cities that engage in
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protests, so what the president is doing is targeting places where he is -- has no shot of winning, portland, seattle, washington, d.c., new york city, to try to show his supporters that he's fighting for them, to try to control these protests, and what he's finding, and what we heard yesterday from governor andrew cuomo of new york is that democrats are fighting back. >> president trump has actively been trying to kill new york city ever since he's been elected. it really does speak volumes about him h.changed his residence to go to florida, why? he can't come pack to new york, he can't. he's going to walk down the street of new york? forgot bodyguards. he better have an army if he thinks he's going to walk down the street in new york. >> reporter: now, obviously governor cuomo went too far there suggesting that the president might face harm in new york city, but that merely underscores the depth of this
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conflict between the president and these blue states that he's trying to make the punching bags for his campaign. >> i know we're entering bizarre world as we often do in the white house because the president encouraged people in north carolina yesterday to vote twice, once my mail and once in person which is illegal, by the way, kayleigh mcenany say you didn't hear what you heard the president say. what's going on here? >> reporter: well, what the president is trying to do in general is to raise doubts about mail-in voting, raise doubts about the legitimacy of an election that he's currently on track to lose, both in states like north carolina and nationally. he got some backup yesterday from bill barr, his toern, who suggested that it might not even be illegal to try to vote twice, but he also said that states were playing with fire by encouraging heavy mail-in voting. of course, the reason for that is that people are fearful of
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getting sick and dying by going out in person to vote during this coronavirus pandemic. now just a few minutes ago the president unleashed a seer as i of tweets in which he reiterate what had he said yesterday, said if you mail -- do a mail-in vote, absentee vote, mail it in early, go to the polling place. if they have already counted or registered the receipt of the ballot you'll not be able to vote. if you haven't, go ahead and vote r.again, states do have security procedures for cross thing people off the voter rolls if they -- if their vote has been tabulated one way, they are not allowed to vote another way and suggesting that people try to do it twice is against the law and certainly not what election officials want them toll do. >> john, john, the president's tweets, for weeks he's been saying mail-in voting leads to fraud. his attorney general was on this broadcast, this network yesterday, saying it's riv with fraud. the president tweeted vote by
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mail for me early. what the heck is going on? >> well, what the president wants, of course, is votes for him and not votes for the other side. >> right. >> reporter: he's raising doubts about states that are trying to go all mail-in which several states have done in recent decades well in advance of the pandemic. he got some blowback from republican political consultants who says you're discouraging our people from casting mail-in votes. we need those to win so the president is trying to in effect play both sides, tell his supporters to go ahead and vote that way, show up at the polls and try to vote again in case your vote isn't counting while discouraging confidence in the legitimacy of the election overall. >> it exposes it in plain sight. mail-in votes for me are fine, mail-in votes for the other guy are fraudulent. john harwood, good to have you break it down. thank you. >> school is back in session across england, but masks are
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not required in every classroom. we're going to take a look.
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students in england are back to school for the first time in months but not everyone will have to wear masks to go along with their school supplies. scott mclean joins me now from waterlooville, england. scott, what steps are they taking? why not masks? kind of goes without saying in so many places. >> reporter: sure, jim. after five months away for a lot students there were a lot of first-day jitters about many of them, new classmates, new teachers but not so much about the coronavirus.
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british prime minister boris johnson said that it was the government's moral duty to get kids back in school despite the fact that in the uk coronavirus infection rate is trending upwards as it is across the uk. for the parents that we met though, it doesn't seem to be a big concern for them, though it may be a different story in scotland where the number of coronavirus-related absences has more than tripled over just the past week or two. at this school they have staggered start times. there is hand sanitizer everywhere. classes are kept separate from one another when they are inside the building and when they are outside as well. they are even keeping the windows and doors open to help with ventilation. as you mentioned, what you will not see at this school, jim, are masks. first off, they are not recommended for kids under the age of 12, but even for the older kids the british government has decided to let every school with some exceptions basically make their own policy when it comes to masks. the idea is if you have enough other mitigating factors, masks shouldn't be necessary. jim? >> interesting to see people
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handing out food not wearing masks, too. thanks very much. let's go to cnn's orrin lieberman who is in jerusalem as israel sets a new up-day record with 3,000 coronavirus cases. israel had it under control, opened schools sort of widely and had a spike. what's happening now and what's working there? >> reporter: well, right now the sudden surge in cases is seen largely from ultra orthodox cities and arab cities according to ministry of health data. what's troubling is most of the cases recently have been confined to what are called red zones. according to the latest data, new infections are breaking out of the red zones. as you pointed out 3,074 new cases on wednesday according to the ministry of health, one-day record smashing the old day record the day earlier of 2,183. the seven-day moving average you can see how quickly it's rising. and school is reopening which is too recent to be a factor in the sudden surge and over the next couple of weeks it raises the possibility that the numbers
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could keep on rising which would make a bad situation even worse. in terms of total numbers, according to the ministry of health again, there are more than 122,000 cases at this point in israel. it is a mortality rate less than 1% though nearing 1,000 deaths in the country. jim, another worrying problem. the high holiday coming up in a couple of weeks and those are family and religious gatherings with another chance for the virus so spread. >> no question. >> orrin liebman, thanks so much in jerusalem. thanks too much for joining us today. i'm jim sciutto. "news room" with john king will start right after a short break. we made usaa insurance for veterans like liz and mike. an army family who is always at the ready. so when they got a little surprise... two!? ...they didn't panic. they got a bigger car for their soon-to-be-bigger family. after shopping around for insurance, they called usaa - who helped find the right coverage for them and even some much-needed savings. that was the easy part. usaa insurance is made the way liz and mike need it-
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