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that's like a poll. >> i want to ask you about -- president trump, yes, about -- now it's widely accepted among republicans -- the justice department -- we were actually formed in 2013 at the surveillance court was -- approving surveillance. i don't think as president you caught on to edward snowden, but do you think he should be allowed? >> so, as far as the abuse is concerned, there was tremendous pfizer abuse. it's amazing it's taken this long. it's been proven very substantially. putting documents in front of the fi srsa court. in courts that are disgraceful that they could have done it and the fact is, we caught joe biden, president obama, the whole group, you can look at
brennan and comby and clapper. the whole group. we caught them spying on our campaign. this was an illegal act like no other. this was treason. this was at the highest level of treason. and obama and biden got caught spying on my campaign, using intelligence agencies of the united states government to do it. both before and after the election. so before the gex election then after i won, they continued. it's total illegal activity and now we have to see what's happening, but as far as kamala is concerned, she's a big tax raiser. she's a big slasher of funds for our military and she's got a lot of difficult things that she's going to have to explain. plus, she was very, very nasty
to, probablyi nastier than pocahontas, very disrespectful to joe biden. she said things during the debates during the democrat primary debates that were horrible. about sleepy joe and. >> yesterday, seattle city council voted to cut funding for their police department and the police chief there, the first black woman to serve in that capacity, she resigned hours later. what's that say about our country and the defund police movement? >> i think seattle in spite of all they've been through with the embarrassment of having a radical left group, antifa and others take over, a big portion
of the city of seattle, talking about a big city. a major city. that they allowed that to happen is incredible that it took so long to fix. the owners, they went in is because they knew we were going in the following day. they proceeded us. didn't want that. having taken over a city for so long. the police commissioner seems like a very good woman. they were going to slash her salary by 40 or 50% and they cut a tremendous amount off the police department. those police are are good, also, but they're not allowed to do their job. it's a shame. i hate to see her go because she did, in her own way, a very good job, but she wasn't effective in convincing the mayor and city council to give the funds that were needed or just leave the funds the way they are.
they've done a big, a big defund, a big part of it, and it will probably get worse before people realize this is a tragic error. before people start dying and getting hurt for badly. so i think seattle's made a tragic mistake. i think portland has no clue as to what they're doing. they have no clue. and hopefully, they'll be asking for help because we can solve their problem very, very quickly. go ahead. >> mr. president, two questions. one on senator harris. very simply, is she going to help with former vice president biden's appearances in november? >> well, i like vice president mike pence much better. he is solid as a rock. he's been a fantastic vice president. he's done everything you can do. he's respected by every religious group, whether it's evangelical, any other group, they respect mike pence. he's been a great vice
president. and i will take him over kamala and the horrible way she again treated justice kavanaugh. that was a horrible event. i thought it was terrible for her. i thought it was terrible for our nation. i thought she was the meanest, the most horrible, most disrespectful of anybody in the u.s. senate. she's also known, from what i understand, as being just about the most liberal person in the u.s. senate, and i would have thought that biden would have tried to stay away from that a little bit because with what they're doing is open borders and sanctuary cities where they're trying to protect them, which is also protecting large number of criminals, with all of the things that they're doing, second amendment. they want to take away your second amendment or modify it to a point where it's essentially no longer the second amendment. i would have thought he would have gone a different way.
thank you very much. >> we want to welcome our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm jim acosta in "the situation room." we just heard from president trump in a news conference there that joe biden has chosen kamala harris as his running mate. we're breaking it all down with our political team. first, we want, a couple of thing frs the pres from the pree when he was talking about harris supporting what he called socialized medicine. while it's true senator harris did support medicare for all, a medicare for all like plan, joe biden has not embraced medicare for all. he's more in favorite of a public option that would go along with obama care. and the president also was slamming president obama, vice president biden, accusing them of spying on the trump campaign. that is just not true. that did not happen.
has not been proven. let's go to our political experts. david, first. what are your thoughts a about what the president had to say about senator harris? she doesn't sound too worried. although we're talking to our sources closely, the trump campaign, there are some real concerns about harris and what she brings to this ticket. >> we've heard from president trump in the past expressing if not outright admiration, at least sort of respect for kamala harris's political abilities. he recently was saying she would be a fine choice. at the time of her rollout when she entered the presidential contest in january of 2019, he acknowledged being impressed. he thought she had done that quite well. but i think listening to the president just now, the framing that thooes clearly and his team are clearly looking to sort of build around kamala harris, slasher of funds for the military. she has lots of -- playing a takz tax raiser then here this
notion he uses the word nasty when he talks about women, especially, but this notion that she was nasty to joe biden on the debate stage and that he thought the president was saying he would not have picked her because of how nasty she was to joe biden. i think the biden folks are eager to have that contrast. they want to draw and say that's exactly the difference between trump and biden. biden is somebody who can take a punch on a debate stage from a competitor and turn that around and understand that they can fight for common cause to defeat president trump, where as president trump seems to think that would be kdisqualifying. he laid out a character contrast that the biden folks are eager about. >> there was no indication that president trump is thinking about dumping mike pence from the ticket even though there's been speculation arising time and again that that may happen. i've talked to trump campaign
sources, jason merrill ovmiller over the weekend, who denied that was going to take place. i talk today a trump campaign adviser no long ago, earlier this afternoon after the harris news was announced, who said it is believed by some close to the trump campaign that this biden harris ticket is going to be tougher than hillary clinton and tim kaine. what do you think of the cha challenge that kamala harris poses for the trump campaign being a part of this ticket now? >> i think that's an astute observation of your source saying that. i think joe biden has shown that he is going to be far more, far tougher competition for donald trump than hillary clinton was and that's due to one big thing. that's due to the president's handling of the coronavirus pandemic. which at the end of the day, we're going to talk a lot about kamala harris and what her past statements and her record are and sort of what she hadds to
this ticket or what potential challenges, but at the end of the day, this is going to be a race between donald trump and joe biden. people tend not to vote for the person who's in the number two slot on the ticket. but i think looking at where the state of this race is today, the trump folks are right to think that they are facing stiffer competition than perhaps they faced in 2016. we're in a whole different kind of political environment. >> very different and we've got an outstanding panel of analysts here. i want to go to van jones to get his reactions on what the president said. i thought it was notable the president took a swipe at warren, used the term pocahontas again, a rationally offensive term, and is using that kind of rationally offensive language on the same day that joe biden is making history in selecting an african-american woman to be on his ticket. >> there's some real irony there. you see the president, he's circling her in the ring. trying out his combinations.
nothing that he said landed and nothing he said is going to make a difference. ella joe baker is happy. up in heaven right now. shirley is happy. barbara jordan is happy. camekamala harris inherits an incredible legacy of african-american women who have stood up for the best of this country. who stood up to bullies and insults. who have had enough pride and self-respect to maintain their dignity and not to back down. she is the last in a very long line of people who right now are rejoicing this in heaven that an african-american woman with her dignity, poise, strength, toughness, has endured this gauntlet and is now standing, will be standing next to the next president of the united states. and that cannot be erased by any of the stuff you and do. they don't have a way to hit her
hard. you just saw. right now, they don't have a way to hit her hard. they were trying out little trial balloon. you would have expected them to have been read. this is going to be a formidable ticket. because you do have a reason now for people to get excited. you've got a reason now for people to get back out here and make some history and to try to bring this country back together. i think that, what i'm seeing on social media, certainly people have concerns about her criminal justice stuff, that's being overwhelmed by people's excitement about kamala harris being added to this ticket. >> and as you know, african-american women have been described as one of the pillars of the democratic party. we heard that time and again during the democratic primaries. picking up on what van jones just had to say. this is tricky territory for president trump, is it not, in that he has so often employed racially insind yar language throughout his political career
and now, kamala harris is standing there on this ticket for 20. >> as well as sexist language. if you think that what he just said, he was really fixated on kamala harris being nasty. she's so mean. he often used that kind of language to refer to women. one of the things that was noteworthy to me, i couldn't actually see the video, president trump sounded kind of lazy. like his heart wasn't really in it. almost like he had just gotten up from a nap. i think you're going to give a contrast, kamala harris' vie brans, energy, smarts, obviously. too with not only donald trump, but also mike pence. i think they're going to throw the kitchen sink at kamala harris, at this ticket. it will be laced with racism and
sexism in the way we've come to see this president over the last many years and we'll see if it works. i have said before, race ism an sexism, very powerful forces in this country. might be the most powerful force in this country ever and so it's still a big risk. it's still a big bet that you see joe biden making that this country is in a place where they feel comfortable elevating a black woman, indian american woman to the second highest office of the land. again, we'll see, again, her entire life. in california over and over again. so if you want somebody who's navigated that kind of gauntlet successfully, she is of a pick, but the forces of racism and sexism, still very powerful and we shouldn't ignore that and
bold choice that joe biden made in picking kamala harris and you can see this sort of energy, surprise and in many ways, sort of relief. it's about time, from a lot of people. van was talking about online and all around the country. women of color are saying they have toiled in the fields in this country, have been in the fields of the democratic party. for decades. in pushing this party over the top. whether you think about joe biden's candidacy or barack obama's candidacy or any number of senators and governors across the country, so it's finally time that a woman of color get this chance and her hard work over this last many years in a california. her rate of success has brought her to this moment. >> i want to turn to you because you've be on top of this process from a beginning and you've got fresh reporting i understand on how this election came together for joe biden.
>>. >> one thing that joe biden was doing throughout this was essentially finding his replacement in the vice presidential role, so the guiding principle throughout this process, he can't recreate the dynamic he had with president obama but, i'm told they would many discussions throughout the course of the last serl months. it was described by a person close to these men, that the former president serves as a sounding board if you will. he did not quote put his thumb on the scale in the words of a person close to the process, but he listened to all of the various things that he was thinking. joe biden has a lot of political friends, personal friends. this was clearly something that was talked about. at the end of the day, i'm told it came back again. yes, the historical nature of her candidacy, no question. we heard joe biden talk about this. in february. back in the new hampshire
primary, when it was not clear at all that she was in fact going to win the nomination. he said he wanted a ticket. someone asked him in a cnn town hall what he would like in a candidate and he said if he could pick a running mate, he would want his ticket to look like what it did with obama. so clearly a woman of color. an historic choice was essential to that. joe biden knows how difficult it is to run for president more than anyone else. he's run three times. so he wanted to choose someone who was tested in this nature. i think david talked about this earlier. the fact that kamala harris went aggressively after joe biden at that debate last summer, was actually a shining moment in the end. it did not bother joe biden. he's a politician. he's been around this town for half century, really. and he knows that, he said he doesn't hold grudges. very similar to the relationship that he had with obama at the beginning. 12 years ago, they were not close friends at all. they barely had a relationship. so it is that type of relationship he wants to forge
with kamala harris, but she was not chosen to be an attack dog, not at all. we heard the comments from president trump there. president trump is going to energize and perhaps unify the democratic base. if anyone has questions about harris' record on criminal justice or other matters, it may be president trump who unifies them because certainly, his comments there are just the beginning of what she will experience, but it will be a fascinating xdebate no question dween senator harris and pence when they have one this fall, jim. >> absolutely and jeff, we have some of the sound you were just mentioning. let's play that and talk to david about that on the other side. >> sure. >> it's incredibly presumptuous for me to be talking about a running mate. i'll get killed if i get specific, but let me tell you what, rather than who, because there's a number of incredibly qualified people. first criteria is that i have to particularly in my case, because i'm older, just like with john
mccain, i have to pick someone if god forbid, if something happened to me tomorrow, the person's ready on day one to be president of the united states. but the second criteria is i'd like my administration to look like a country. like barack and our administration looked like. black, brown, women, men, gay, straight, across the board, to look like a country. as vice president, i think it would be wonderful to have a woman or a person of color as vice president but the most important thing i've learned from my relationship with barack, i call him barack, not president, because i don't want to confuse him with the president. one of the things i learned is that no president in the 21st century can handle the job by himself. it's just too much that lands on your plate. so you've got to be prepared to turn oaf significant responsi e
responsibility as the president did with me on matters relating a with with whole range of issues and turn it over and run it from beginning to end. but i know one thing. you've got to be on the same page. whomever i pick, man, woman, whoever it is, has to agree with my strategic vision for the country. we can disagree on tactic, but unless, and they can be totally trustworthy, but if they don't a agree on strategic where we are, it's impossible to say here, you take this responsibility with regard to ukraine, you take care of it and just do it. you have to know you're on the same page. that's the first cry kier tooer area i know has to exist no matter who you pick. >> that's joe biden from our town hall on february 5th. there's kind of a through line between the obama biden candidacy and this biden harris candidacy. first, african-american president to the first potentially african-american female vice president.
he is, he's the bridge between two history making tickets. >> there is no doubt. i was interested in the first part of his answer where he said it's most important that this person can be seen as ready to take the job on day one. this was something that came through on their research for a vice president and what they learned was that kamala harris passed that test. people feel that as a u.s. senator, someone who was an attorney general of the largest state and particularly someone they saw on the stage running for president of the united states, that she was ready. that she was prepared to take this job. she answered that particular call. the second thing as jeff talked about his consultations with president obama, i can tell you from our own vice presidential deliberations that one of the
things that appealed to him about joe biden was that he had run for president and that he understood the maelstrom that has a presidential campaign. president obama didn't want to throw anyone into the deep water who hasn't experienced the frenzy of running for president and the media pressures of running for president and i'm sure that is advice that he passed along to vice president biden as he was considering his choice. harris has that experience. she did not, and neither did joe biden, back in 2008, but she had the experience of the pressure that comes with running for the highest office in the land and therefore, she is more prepared to run for vice president. finally, the fact that he mentioned senator mccain. remember, john mccain, who was 73 and had melanoma, chose sarah palin for a vice president. that turned out to be a terribly damaging decision for him in
that campaign when she came up wanting. so biden understands that people are going to be looking at this differently because they are someone who could if need be, called upon to take over and may well be the candidate for president in 2024 when biden will be 81 years old and unlikely to run. finally, i'd say, jim, that tension is something that is going to be to have monitored going forward by the both of them because kamala harris will not only be an incoming vice president, but she'll also be the punitive front-runner for president in 2024 the moment she takes office and how you process issue issues, vice president said there, i want this on the same page, but sometimes, the politics of a decision are difficult and if you're thinking about the next election, this
can that can be a tough choice so they're going to have to work that through, but obviously, he's satisfied himself that a they have the ability to work through that together. dana, i think david teed youp perfectly mentioned the palin candidacy in 2008. what kind of contrast do you see and that. >> it's a different universe for so many reasons. the most important is what david was just talking about. harris has been in the arena. she ran for president. she ran for senate from a huge state and won.
and to be picked to shore up a base that joe biden doesn't have, which is what john mccain did with sarah palin, and she wasn't picked for the sort of shock value. you can't call anybody of color a safe pick and that is understandable. but given where we are and given githe fact senator harris has bn tested and that there's nothing agr agree gous that could be a real talking point for people who are learning about senator harris for the first time pause, that does put her in the safer category than others who he was
considering. the first adjective that president trump used about harris is nasty. i mean this is exactly what the biden campaign expect parkinson's disease ii'm sure. that's the word he uses to describe women when trying to demean them, but the other thing is that president trump played right into the biden message with this rollout. which is i can't believe he would choose somebody who was so nasty and mean to him. because trump would never consider picking someone who was
that quote unquote nasty to him and joe biden has gotten over it to the point where he made the most important decision on her of his candidacy so far. >> excellent point. van jones, i want to ask you about this comment from nia that harris is not a safe pick. what do you make of that? does that it say that an african-american would be seen as a safe pick by some? >> i think it does, but she is correct in that when ever sw somebody's doing something that's never been done before, there's a reason.
there were stereotypes. i remember when bill clinton picked al gore. there's something about these two that just work. they're tough in different ways. their strengths are complimentary but you could go to bed knowing for sure and if she's ever going to be president of the united states, you can sleep like a baby. putin is not going to be messing with kamala harris. she's not that kind of a person. a tender hearted toughness from bind. a different kind from her. this is a tough ticket now. i think african-americans in particular have played such an outsized roll in this process.
it was african-americans, african-american women and alleys of african-american stood up strong and said this time you've got to give a sister a chance. you have too many african-american women to just overlook them. so you have african-americans showing i think a level of determination. a level of discernment in who th this, a ticket that looks like obama biden and i think you can unlock the coalition once again. i was very, very concerned that we were going to have to try to explain to the african-american women who have held this party up and held this party together so many times that you know, you're just not good enough and when you have a donna brazile and others who are champions and warriors in this party saying
not this time. give one of us a chance. a bunch of african-american men and others got behind that effort because they were right and i think they're going to be proven flight november. >> very interesting. i want to turn now to arlette because she also covers the biden campaign. a job that's bigger than one correspondent that can handle it. but i want to turn to her because she has new reporting on what we're going to be seeing tomorrow. in terms of this ticket. you know, out there in the flesh as one team. >> they're be here appearing for the first time on the democratic ticket. we're told they will be holding an a event delivering remarks tomorrow. we're still waiting to hear the exact timing and location of that. then they're going to hold that virtual grass roots fund-raiser. trying to take their message directly to their supporters on their first day together as the
democratic ticket. and this will be the first time that joe biden and kamala harris are campaigning together in person since march. in fact, biden's last major campaign rally was held in detroit right before coronavirus brought traditional campaigning to a standstill. and biden stood on a stage in detroit in march with kamala harris, michigan governor and cory booker and he talked about how he views himself as the bridge to the next generation. that is something that we are clearly seeing with his pick today. and also in announcing kamala harris as his run ining mate, biden made a nod to his late son, bow bideau biden. they developed a friendship and a relationship and biden in that e-mail announcing kamala harris as his pick, talked about how his son beau's opinion really mattered and that factored into
his decision as he chose harris as his running mate. one thing that biden clearly has been looking to replicate is his relationship with president obama and even biden and harris are not personally close to begin with, he sees that possible long-term potential with harris as well. so tomorrow, we will be seeing the two of them as the democratic presidential candidate and the democratic vice presidential candidate here in wilmington and biden also was part of a historic administration serving alongside the first african-american president and he's hoping if elected, he'll be serving with the first woman of color to serve as vice president. jim. >> thank you for that. i want to go back to jeff and sort of reset the story here because we have this breaking news. joe biden picking kamala harris as his running mate for the democratic ticket for 2020. and i want to pick up a little bit on what arlette was just talk iing about and how he mentioned beau biden.
his son, beau, who died from cancer in making this selection of kamala harris. also has served as attorney general in california. i remember when joe biden decided not to run. in 2016. and he was talking about his he didn't have the emotional fuel to run because he was mourn iin the death of his son and just the arc of joe biden's political career to bring him to this moment, it's quite a story, jeff. >> no question about it. and you're absolutely right. that today, the summer of 2015, when joe biden, the vice president, stood in the rose garden. i think you were in the rose garden, i was on the north lawn when this was happening and he decided not the run. hillary clinton was already running but the beau biden thread she was talking about is so key. there is no one who is more of a present figure who is driving joe biden's decision to run for president and in his hope, defeat the sitting president, than beau biden. he is doing it for beau. there's no question that for all the history making nature of
senator harris absolutely true for all her experience on the campaign trial, absolutely true. it is that connection with beau biden that certainly i think eased over or paved over any complications if there were any or lingering bad feelings there. but ipg going forward, as we reset the process here, it's kind of ending where it was beginning. you know, it was widely assumed that senator harris would be one of the leading contenders. she was, but i'm told the former vice president did a serious and thorough search. the biden campaign said i want wanted to be clear, that almost a dozen women, 11 specifically were thoroughly vetted here. there were senators. members of the house. mayors. so there was a serious process and we are told the former vice president sat down face-to-face and remotely with several of these candidates, having a one-on-one discussion, trying to find that governing partner, so it is at the end of the day, he had a pretty good sense of senator harris.
he was on the debate stage with her. and he was on a campaign trail with her. he didn't know some of these other figures like whitmer. an xal principle example of tha. the michigan governor who had had fly in at the last minute. a trial balloon to see. it was clear it would be difficult to not pick a woman of color here and someone who was tested on the stage. so this is ending here with senator harris you know, where many people thought the process would begin. but now this is going to be a partnership that is going to start anew and building. as david axelrod knows bet r than anyone on this panel, the relationship with barack obama and joe biden was very different 12 years ago at this point than when they left the white house, so that is what joe biden wants to build. a partnership. and that takes work, of course, but he certainly sees something in her and that's why he picked her. >> that's right. obama and biden fornlged a very close relationship. and let's go back and talk about how i mean this is the third time that this has happened.
now harris. to have a woman on a presidential ticket, it is worth pausing and reflecting on. hillary clinton was in 2016 on the top of the tick. all of these instances ended up not working out well for these candidates. hillary clinton worse in 2016. feraro was a savage in many ways. she was called everything but a child of god and a lot of that had to do about sexism. and sarah palin, a question for any number of reasons. or she wouldn't be qualified. people wondered about who would take care of her kids. or would she be the vice president. people talked about her clothing. that she pent too much money on her clothing and obviously
hillary clinton faced some of those same comments in 2016. the idea that somehow her laugh was off putting and may be fake. so i think you'll see the same kind of forces and comments raid against harris, but again, she has been on the national stage. she has been on the stage in california. this really huge stage with a very vibrant democratic party and managed to work her way up to this position. not an easy feat for an african-american woman. an indian american woman as well, but she managed obviously to do that and you see in donald trump, somebody who's so use d o using a kind of race baiting language and sexist language. you see him going to his playbook, a playbook that worked so well for him in 2018 against hillary clinton. you see him going against harris in that same way in some of his comments. and you imagine you'll see some
of that from other folks in the party and will generally, just the culture as well. the culture is sort of primed to be racist and sexist, so i think it will be interesting to see some of the conversation that comes out of this very historic pick. >> and david, you are looking at these polls that are coming out kaley and i suppose there were, there was a lot of talk about you know, which running mate would have affect ed the polls n various ways. one of the things i think we're picking up on is how harris might help joe biden bolster you know, that independent vote out there, or at least keep it from spraying back towards the trump pence ticket. how do you see kamala harris as being an asset for this ticket just looking at these polls and battleground states like a blue wall that trump took back in 2016? >> yeah, i mean, there's no doubt.
by the way, this was a part of the harris primary strategy. obviously, didn't work out for her, but suburban women, some of the independent women you're talking about, that was a key target of the harris campaign. they saw some real appeal that she had with those voters. but i think it was van jones, jim, that was saying earlier as you were talking about sort of the bridge that joe biden has between the first african-american president, barack obama, and now the first female african-american major party nominee on the ticket here as the vice presidential pick, and joe biden as the link there. i think januavan cyd to unlock obama biden coalition again and i do think we've seen joe biden's strength with some parts of the electorate that donald trump needs and had in 2016. older voters. you mentioned independent voters. even some of the white working class vote ers that are the bre and butter of donald trump's base have peeled away a little bit, but i think here, adding
harris to the ticket, there's going to be a real push to get back to that obama coalition and see if not only can joe biden ride this wave of negativity towards trump that is such a motivator for democrats wanting him out of office and actually turbo charge some of the younger voters, traditional pieces of the democratic base to a higher place than we see them right now for joe biden. >> okay, david, and thanks to all of you for that great discussion on this historic pick. in much more news, breaking news, had joe biden picking senator kamala harris as his running mate. next, i'll get reaction from the atlanta mayor. she is standing by. she was a contender for the vp slot and she's reached out and congratulated harris for being on this ticket. we'll talk to her straight ahead. - sir. - we need a doctor. [running footsteps and siren]
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i'm very proud for her country. and just looking forward to the biden harris team being victorious in november. >> and mayor, if you don't mind me prying, what was that conversation with the former vice president like? >> it was a great conversation. i didn't know i would be getting the call to say that it was me or if it would be the one to to thank me for my time and obviously it was the one to thank you me for my time, but it was a bit more in depth than that. i endorsed the vice president over a year ago. so i've been team biden for a long time and now i'm team biden harris and i just expressed to him my gratitude just to be a part of this team. and what it means to america and so we had a very personal conversation. but it was a very good con v conversation. >> did he mention during the call that it would be kamala harris? >> i did not ask who it was and
he did not tell me who it was, but there were a couple of things that he said during the course of our conversation, i thought that it might be senator harris or congresswoman bass. not because of anything in particular that he said about the women, but it was something, there was something that he mentioned that made me think it might be one of them. >> and you mentioned that there was a personal, there's a personal nature to the call. you care to get into that at all as to how that conversation went? >> well, you know, again, i've been a big part of the biden team for a very long time. and our conversations are often very personal. and of course he's been grateful for the support that i've given to the campaign, but more than that, i'm grateful that he is putting himself out to serve as president of the united states
and grateful that senator harris is willing to serve as president. we need this ticket in america. we need to show to america that our president will value diversity. and there's no better representative than that than senator harris. so we talk about all of those things and more. >> and i don't know if you saw president trump's comments about kamala harris, but he referred to her at one point as being nasty. what is your reaction to that? >> that's typical donald trump. he doesn't have better words to describe someone who's of great courage and intelligence and so he would have to go to name calling. that's what little people do and that's what he'll do through november. but we've seen senator harris at her finest. we've seen her on the debate stage. we've seen her take on the trump
administration and i'm sure he is, he is not pleased that she is a part of this ticket. >> and have you spoken with senator harris at this point about being selected? >> i have not spoken with her. i assume that she's pretty busy. right now. so i did tweet my congratulations, but i do hope to speak with her at some point soon. >> and mayor, wanted to ask you because kamala harris is now going to be the first african-american woman as a vice presidential running mate on a ticket, presidential ticket in this country, what does that mean to you? what does that mean to women and girls all across the country, particularly women of color, african-american women as we've been told time and again and as p we know looking at our history, they're a real pillar of the democratic party. what does this selection mean to you? >> i immediately thought of my 9-year-old daughter and what this will mean to her. to look at television and see
someone who reflects all that we encourage our girls to be and that's someone who is courageous and someone who works hard. someone who's obviously intelligent and well studied and someone who cares and is willing to put themselves out to serve others. and so it than that, it should make our country proud that there will be representation at the highest office that represents who we are as a diverse people and what we value as a country. so, i'm very proud of this ticket. and looking forward to supporting this ticket through victory. >> and if they win in november, would you be interested in serving in a biden-harris administration? >> you know, this has been quite a ride. this process has been going on for several months now.
so, i'm just going to take today to decompress. this will probably be the best night sleep that i've had since a very long time. and we'll consider that when it becomes an option. but right now this is about winning in november. and for this team to win means that all of america. >> okay, mayor keisha lance bottoms. just ahead we'll have more to say about this historic selection, the breaking news here at cnn, former vice president joe biden selecting senator kamala harris as his running mate for the democratic ticket for the fall campaign. we'll have more just ahead. awesome internet.
can your internet do that? xfinity xfi can because it's simple, easy, awesome. get advanced security free with the xfi gateway. download the xfi app today. and we're following breaking news on joe biden's historic selection of senator kamala harris as his running mate. let me go first to jeff zeleny as we wrap things up here. you've got new reporting as how this went down? >> reporter: we do, indeed. we wondered how the offer was made to senator harris. we are learning new information from a biden campaign official who says about 90 minutes before the announcement was visually made via text message, joe biden reached out to senator harris. they talked via remote connection. they were not face to face.
the job was offered and of course it was accepted. we saw the photograph of that. it was released by the campaign. they were talking on zoom and some other type of software. that is when the announcement was made, about 90 minutes before the formal announcement. then the former vice president spent his time calling others who did not make it, as you know, the atlanta major. this really wraps up the process. it puts a bow on what had been a three- or four-month-long process of looking into the backgrounds and categories of so many women. it ended as many people thought it began, picking senator harris because she's been tested and her candidacy would be historic. >> dana bash, these two contenders, they have had chemistry before they needed to have chemistry. that's one of the things that also seems to be the case with joe biden and kamala harris. >> yes, they definitely have had words, but they have known each other for a long time. more specifically, kamala harris
has known the biden family. she knew his son beau very well which the former vice president made clear in a number of ways as he made his announcement and his pick out there and he let it be known. i think as we button it up, we have to say over and over again, we knew it was going to be a woman. we didn't know for sure if it was going to be a woman of color, and it is. and she is half jamaican, half indian. and we've talked a lot about african-americans in america and how they're looking up and seeing somebody who looks like them more than they've ever seen before from the female point of view. and the other thing is indian americans also are looking at her and saying, wow, we're represented there too. >> final thoughts north korm an.
>> we'll have the roll out tomorrow in this picture we have never seen before of an indian-american woman, an african-american woman, as dana said with jamaican roots. often it has been caribbean american who is have been barrier breaker. so, we'll see. we'll see if kamala harris takes to this role as being this vice presidential nominee and what kind of energy she brings to this process. again, i think she understands this moment, understands social media and culture in a way that joe biden doesn't. so, i think it'll be interesting to see what kind of moments she's able to create, the kind of buzz she generates. that's been what she's been ai believe to do so far on the national stage and obviously fighting her way through california politics to reach this moment. >> and we'll get a look at these two candidates tomorrow. it's going to be fascinating to
watch. a historic day no matter how you look at it. joe biden selecting kamala harris as his running mate. we'll all be watching tomorrow as those two candidates are on the same stage. our breaking news continuing with "erin burnett outfront." with "erin burnett outfront." good night. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com "outfront" next. breaking news, joe biden making history, announcing senator kamala harris has his running mate. two people who know senator harris well are "outfront." president trump pushing for college football to be played this week. so it safe for the tens of thousands of players? let's go "outfront." and good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, breaking news, history. former vice president joe biden picki picki picking senator kamala harris as his running mate. harris is the first black woman on a