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may they rest in peace, and may their memories being a blessing? thanks very much for watching. i'll be back here for a special edition of the "situation room" tomorrow night, 7:00 p.m. eastern. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, the u.s. on track for more than 4,000 deaths running. the white house claiming trump never minimized coronavirus. plus a record number of cases and an alarming story from one doctor who said one of his patients recovered from the virus months ago just tested positive recently and died. two young children in one family ill with coronavirus. i'm going to speak to their parents about their ideal. let's go "outfront." good evening, i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, team trump denying reality. the white house claiming president trump hasn't
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drastically changed his tone on the virus. 4 million americans have been diagnosed with the virus, 145,261 have died. the death toll has surpassed 1,000 a day for three days in a row and we are on track for today to be the fourth. 28 states now seeing a rise in deaths over the past week. the virus is spreading and the death toll, once unimaginable, is now climbing by 1,000 people a day. a grim reality that president trump only seems to acknowledged begrudgingly and occasionally over the past few days. the white house saying today don't believe what you heard him say for 5 1/2 months. no, no, no, they say the president has never down played the virus. never changed his tone. >> he hasn't changed. speaking on covid generally, the way i've heard him talk privately in the oval office is the way he's talking out here. >> perhaps she has been hearing something the rest of the country hasn't when the president has opened his mouth because here is what he has said
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publicly for five and a half months. >> we have it so well under control. we have done a very good job. we're prepared and dog a great job with it. it will go away. just stay calm. it's going to go. it's going to leave. it's going to be done. the numbers are very miniscule compared to what it was. it's dying out. >> and now -- >> we ask all americans to exercise vigilance, practice social distancing, wear a mask, do whatever is necessary so we get rid of this horrible situation, this horrible disease. >> now, the press secretary also said that president trump has not changed his tone on this crucial thing, just mentioning it there, this crucial thing about wearing a mask. >> the president has been consistent on this. he wore a mask back at the fourth facility. he carries it around in his pocket. >> the president did wear a mask that one time, after he had refused to do so for months.
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>> i think wearing a face mask as i greet presidents, prime ministers, dictators, kings/queens, i don't know, somehow i don't see it for myself. i didn't want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it. >> so, he refused to wear a mask because it wasn't for him, he didn't want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it. we saw it every day he never wore it except the one time he didn't want us to see. it never should have been about the press. it should have been about setting a good example for the public and saving lives. all of a sudden this week, the president has done a complete about-face. >> i have the mask right here. i carry it and i will use it gladly. no problem. i'm getting used to the mask. and the reason is think about patriotism. >> wait a minute. if it's about patriotism, why wouldn't he wear one? why did he sworn them? he scorned them for months!
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and now it's about patriotism. okay. look. he is right. it's about helping other human beings, but his sudden verbal conversion is rich. and of course there's the republican convention at jacksonville which the president finally cancelled yesterday which was a major flip for the president, a change in tone and' retreat. before removing the convention to jacksonville it was going to all be in charlotte. the president spent weeks berating the governor for suggesting the convention couldn't take place safely without masks and social distancing because of the virus. >> the people want it and we'll have to see whether or not the governor -- now, he's a democrat and a lot of the democrats, for political reasons, don't want to open up their states. he's been acting very, very slowly and very suspiciously. the governor's little backward there. he's a little bit behind. and unfortunately we're going to probably be having no choice but to move the republican convention to another location. that's too bad, too bad for
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north carolina. and then we went to florida. >> okay. well, now totally different, right? now suddenly the president recognizes the risks and is cancelling the convention in a virus hot spot of florida. >> i look at my team and i said the timing for this event is not right. it's just not right with what's happened recently, the flare up in florida, to have a big convention is not the right time. >> so, now, the president has not been consistent on everything with this virus. he was for five and a half months until this week when things changed. what his press secretary said today is just false. he has changed his tone. he's backed down. all of this is a good thing. it should be applauded. it's hard to say that, right? this is something that should have been done months and months and months ago so i don't know why we're applauding it. it's good if he sticks with it, wears a mask. when the president was denying the strength of the virus and importance of wearing a mask, he was doing a great deal of damage. a lot of people -- our reporters
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talked to them, said if he doesn't have to wear one i don't need to wear one. my body, my rights, look at him. more than 144,000 americans died while the president didn't wear a mask and said we have it under control, it's going to go away, the numbers are miniscule. if you had wanted the truth from someone in washington, you could not go to the white house for five and a half months. you had to go to dr. fauci. >> i think what's happening is you're seeing an evolution of a realization of the reality of what's going on and i believe he's adjusting to that right now and acting accordingly. >> because at the very least we have to hope he continues to act accordingly. kaitlan collins is "outfront" at the white house. kaitlan, obviously for kayleigh mcenany to say the president hasn't changed his tone is absurd. it defies reality and something that any american who has watched a snippet of news would know. why the shift now and why are they denying something so
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blatant? >> it's not clear why they're denying it. you just played sound bite after sound bite of what the president has been saying since january and february of this. some of those moepts are still happening this week like when the president said he believed testing was overrated or claimed out citing any evidence or studies that masks can cause problems too. those moments are still happening even as the president is reversing course and trying to shift his stance on this in several other instances. and probably what's most notable is his decision to cancel the convention. even that's a decision that came about pretty quick wily this we. that decision came together in about 24 hours we were told by sources and it was so closely held, so few people knew about it because aides weren't sure if he was going to change his mind. that gives indication of how the white house has tried to portray as a decision of leadership. really it was about the poll numbers the president has been looking at this week. 62% of people do not think it's
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a good idea to hold a convention in florida in august in the middle ofl pandemic. the larger picture of poll after poll showing a lot of voters think that joe biden would do a better job handling coronavirus than what president trump has done so far. and those numbers finally seem to get through to the president. and of course florida is going to be a big concern for him. so, it was all those things really culminating together that led to this. and aides are certainly happy the president has changed his tone. that's why they keep pointing to the instances where he's worn a mask because they know they don't have a lot to work with when it comes to that. the question like you hipted at earlier is ultimately whether or not this is something the president sticks with and whether or not it's too late for voters to think he's actually changing his tone. >> thank you very much kaitlan. yeah, the mask thing is just amazing. he's on twitter mocking people for wearing them. you can't pretend you didn't do all those things. everybody heard and saw and you can replay. "outfront" now, dr. jonathan reiner, director of cardiac cath
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lab who advised the white house, and dr. ashish jha. dr. reiner, the president goes from i'm not going to let anyone see me in a mask and give them the pleasure and wouldn't wear to now everyone needs to wear a mask. he went from we have it well under control, it's going away, it's miniscule, it's gone, it's leaving to it's a terrible disease. he said the former comments on these things for five and a half months and he's now saying the latter for a few days. but the press secretary says there's been no change in tone. what does that do to public trust? >> well, it erodes it. words matter. and the words of a president matter a lot. erin, when i see a patient after a heart attack, when i see them in clinic, i weigh my words very carefully because i know they're listening. and if i need the patient to lose weight and get their blood pressure under control and stop smoking, i say it explicitly. but for the first four to five
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months of this pandemic, the president said that testing was overrated, that masks weren't for him, that the virus was a hoax, was going to go away. he felt it appropriate to hold rallies in pandemic hotspots. his words and actions resonated through the country and that's why the virus is raging through large sections of the southwest. the words of the president matter. we need an unequivocal voice from the president of the united states that says the following. every american needs to wear a mask. we need a president who gives cover to governors to close down if the virus is out of control in their states. we need a president who says we will not open schools if it's not safe to do so for the children, the teachers and the parents. we need an unequivocal voice from a leader in washington. and if the president is going to do that, i'll stand up and applaud him. >> so, dr. jha, how much on the example -- even this week he's
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still trying to say the only reason there's more cases is there's more testing and obviously the math does not show that as testing has increase. not enough and you have to wait ten days to get results in some places. that's a whole separate issue. but the number of cases obviously, it dramatically exceeds that. so, how much further do we need to go? and what could he do now to fix it? >> well, we're really in a very difficult spot right now. so, we have a long way to go both on testing and just getting the disease under control in general. i think it's worth understanding that we are the global hot spot right now, that much of the southern united states is generating a large proportion of the cases around the world. so, we have a lot to do. i am deeply worried about our testing infrastructure. it is hitting the wall and it is starting to crumble and we're seeing that in delays in returns, we're seeing that in
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machines starting to break down. we're seeing that in how hard it is for people to start getting tested. so, we need a reboot, erin. and we really need the president -- the words are very important and i'm happy to hear them, but we want to see that followed with actions from the white house to create a true national testing strategy so that americans, when they get sick and get tested and get results quickly, that will be an important part of bringing this disease under control. >> dr. ryan e i want to play something that dr. fauci told david axelrod about his own safety. it's kind of a stunning exchange. let me play it for you in full. >> you know, back in the day of hiv when i was being criticized with some hate mail, it was more, you know, people calling me a gay lover and you're wasting a lot of time on that. i mean, things that you would just push aside as being stupid people saying stupid things. it's really a magnitude different now because the amount
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of anger -- i mean, as much as people, you know, the inappropriately, i think, make me somewhat of a hero, which i'm not a hero. i'm just doing my job. there are people who get really angry at thinking that i'm interfering with their life because i'm pushing a public health agenda. i mean, the kind of not only hate mail but actual serious threats against me are not good. i don't really see how society does that. >> yeah, how do you process that? >> you know, it's testiough. i mean, it's tough. serious threats against me, against my family, my daughters, my wife. i mean really? is this the united states of america? but it's real. it really is real. >> have you had to take on security measures? >> yes, yes, i've been given security. >> i think is this the united states of america? but it is. but it's real. what do you think when you hear that? >> it makes me both angry and really sad.
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tony fauci is a scientist. he's devoted his life to science. he's devoted his life to trying to cure the most dreaded diseases of our time. but he's been demonized because he hasn't cued closely to the orgt deoxyof this administrationment he's simply tried to tell the truth. during the interview that the president had today, the president said that tony fauci wants to keep states closed for two years. tony fauci's never said that. but when the president parrots that kind of nonsense, it resonates through the lunatic fringe, and that's what generates this kind of hate and danger to a patriot like tony fauci. this kind of antiscience message is very destructive. look, i'm worried that once we succeed in creating a vaccine or vaccines that we're going to have to go a long way to convince large parts of the
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country, the same parts of the country that generate hate mail to tony fauci, we're going to have to convince them to actually take the vaccine. >> which is terrifying. dr. jha, there's something else dr. fauci said today about this challenge to science. to people out there right now trying to save lives. public health officials. here's what he said. >> often the evidence and the facts are not readily acceptable by some people who push back against it. you just have to stick by your guns, don't get involved in any ideology. we are not politicians. we are public health officials. >> so, dr. jha, what are the repercussions for the country when someone like tony fauci is getting death threats and push back like this. he has to tell the people don't let the politicians do this to you. just do your job. >> so, erin, i think this is possibly the biggest problem facing america right now. the reason we have almost 1,200
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americans dying today, the reason we are in such deep trouble is because of a campaign of misinformation. largely through social media like facebook. but propagated by political leaders. and basically, it confusing large chunks of the american people. and the point of leadership is to clarify that and to suppress and push back against misinformation and talk the truth to the american people. that has not happened from many of our political leaders. it has been left up to people like dr. fauci. i'm sure dr. reiner has felt this. i have felt this. we spent enormous amounts of time fighting this information instead of fighting the virus and left us much worse off as a country and as a people. >> it's cost us many, many lives. thank you both very much. and next growing questions over immunity, whether you can get reinfected. i'm going to speak with a doctor who treated a man who recovered from the virus months ago and
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new tonight for the second day nay row, california hitting a new high for deaths reported in a single day from coronavirus. oregon also reporting it's highest number of single day deaths. this is hawaii, indiana, and oklahoma, three states in very different parts of the country are all now reporting new records for positive cases in a i single day. athea jones is "outfront." >> the school calendar is not the pandemic calendar. >> reporter: the cdc is out with long awaited dpiedlines making the case schools should reopen in some cases, arguing children suffer in a remote learning environment. >> there have been substantial public health negative consequences for children not being in school. >> reporter: and stressing they appear to be at lower risk for serious complications from covid-19 and they're less likely to spread the virus than adults. what i can't tell you for sure is whether children under 10 in
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the united states don't spread the viruses the same as children over 10. >> one reason there's so much concern, particularly in hotspots like florida's miami-dade county. >> you're talking about 350,000 students plus another 40,000 teachers. so, you're putting a tremendous amount of people back into the economy in a way that could end up being a super spreader event. >> exactly what doctors at over whem overwhelmed hospitals are worried about. >> it's dangerous to have face to face school. we're drowning here. >> reporter: the cdc also advising local authorities to take into account the level of virus transmission in the community before resuming in-person classes. >> when you look at the hotspots, i think most of us right now are looking where the percent positivity rate within the community is greater than 5%. >> reporter: many of the nation's school districts pressure to make a decision before the cdc guidance came
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down. some decided to hold online only classes in the fall, others postponing the start of the school year. after new daily deaths nationwide passed 1,000 for the third straight day, signs new infections may be leveling off in some of the hardest hit places like florida, arizona, texas, and california. still, scenes like this one, a maskless cloud of hundreds at a northern california worship service are worried. meanwhile, medical experts and other penned an open leader urging leaders to shut down the entire country again and start over, this time following the kinds of public health guidelines that helped dozens of other countries get the virus under control. dr. anthony fauci only partly agrees. >> i'm not so sure you need to all of a sudden everybody go back to a complete lockdown. you know, it could come to that. you've always got to leave that on the table. >> n >> reporter: now one of the
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public health measures is of course wears masks. mcdonalds and chipotle are joining a long list of companies that will require customers to wear face masks. the rules are in effect in chipotle and will start august 1st in mcdonald's. >> i want to go to dr. david thrasher, critical care doctor for montgomery pulmonary consultants in alabama. i'm sorry to have you on under these circumstances. i want to ask you about a specific story of one of your patients. i know you had a patient that tested positive for the virus all the way back in february, more than five months ago, who recovered. then tested positive again last month, june, and died of the virus. i know you're limited due to privacy laws and e did tails here, but this opens the door to something significant which is the virus lying dormant in somebody for months or somebody recovering and getting it again a second time. what else cuan you tell us abou
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this? >> as you say i'm limited from hipaa regulations. but this patient contracted the virus before it was in america, contracted over in europe. he said he was pretty sick, pretty much in bed for a week, felt horrible, did not go to the hospital. but then totally recovered and went back to his normal way of life. then in mid-june, he contracted the illness again at an area restaurant that had some positive covid employees a couple days later that shut down. he got sick. and he went home thinking he's going to be kind of like the first episode he had over in europe. he got sicker and sicker. he was in a rural hospital. they did not have the capability of what we call high-flow oxygen. so, he sent him to montgomery where we started treating him.
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we tested him again with a pcr, the gold standard. so, we did diagnose him having covid-19 the second time, not a relapse. he had antibodies showing that he had some previous immunity. this patient went on about six days later and died of the illness. now, point this brings to us, we've always been told that there is some limited immunity. recent studies came out, said it may only last 30, 40 days. we don't know exactly. we do know that it's not a get out of jail free card. as i tell people, don't get fat and happy because you've had it. you still need to wear a mask and protect yourself. you can not only get it again, but unfortunately, you can die. >> it's pretty incredible what you're saying. so, he had the antibodies, but he did contract it again. and he died. you know, this is just -- i just
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think this is something people need to hear. there is a lot of assumption out there. we hear it from rand paul and others, you get immunity of some sort. what you're saying it could be brief. yesterday where you are, you had a new high for cases in a single day, and i know it's been incredibly difficult for you over the past month and a half that you and i have been talking. you've been a doctor since 1983. have you ever sewn anything like what you're seeing now? >> no, i have been in critical care since 1983 and served as county coroner for 13 years and seen a lot of deaths. i've seen more people die than any doctor in montgomery because of those two jobs. we saw the h1n1 swine flu pandemic. nothing like this. why is this different? well, the patients linger a lot longer before they die, but the worse thing is the patients cannot communicate with their families very well. the families cannot communicate
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with the sick relatives. and nor can the doctors communicate. we do this by phone. that's not a way to conduct medicine. it's terribly traumatic that our brave nurses, they are the bridge to these people's world. they're with them day and night and they're the true heroes out there. and that's the communication that these patients have with the world. it's tough. i've not seen anything like this nor has any other doctor. >> i appreciate your time, again. thank you, sir. >> sure. zblvlg and next, two young children in the same family infected. how are their parents managing this terrifying ideal? they're "outfront." and the state of washington was the model for coronavirus containment, they got it, got through it, and it was better. now things have changed and there's a troubling trend in that state. it's pretty inspiring the way families
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we don't know yet if the child had underlying issues. the county has announced 1,450 children under the age of 18 have tested positive for coronavirus this month. this comes as parents across the country are making big decisions on whether to send their kids to school this fall. two children in one family in nearby arlington, texas, is battling the virus. this is 11-year-old scotty carlton. he has fought underlying health conditions since his birth. he was hospitalized and tested positive for coronavirus. one year later, his brother jeffrey also tested positive. he did not have to be hospitalized. lucky scotty has been released from the hospital. "outfront" now, their parents jeff and catherine. a appreciate your time and talking to all of us. i know it's got to be hard, as a parent myself, for you to do this. jeff, let me start with you. we know that out of the hospital and back home, how are scotty and jeffrey both doing today? >> they're definitely better. thank you for asking.
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there are still complications, right? but the big factors that we're concerned about like fever, for example, we're not seeing that anymore. but they still have some complications. there are still some sick kids here. >> and complications like you mentioned things like headaches and things like that, jeff? >> yeah, scotty has been -- this is how it started. he's the oldest. jeffrey was feverish and fatigued for the first few days now he's having mysterious debilitating ed hadaches that come on quickly for ten 10 or 1 minutes and they tend to go away. that's new and concerning. >> of course, of course. catherine, i know you are both really worried about this virus. from the beginning you were cautious because of scotty, because he has the underlying conditions and you did everything you were told to do. you did everything right. when you first learned that he
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and jeffrey tested positive, as a mother, how terrifying was that for you? >> it was crushing. since march when we first heard about the virus, you know, we started making our plans and following guidance of how do we protect scotty. and we did what we thought and could do as best we could and it still happened to us four months in. and that first call was crushing. he was in the hospital and really thought if he got this it would be a death sentence. so, we are in disbelief that he got it. we're in disbelief that jeffrey got it. we're in disbelief then given his underlying conditions that he was able to come home and he's doing well. but i'm still worried. we're still worried because they still have symptoms. so, short term, we have concerns. i wish them both having it meant we didn't have to worry about
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them getting it. and we don't know the long-term effects of this virus on them, let alone that we have a third kid out here that we have tried our best to keep safe. and so far, no symptoms for the three of us. and just the concern as a mom of hey, i wish i could take it from them and have it myself and then be -- how do we care for them if we both get it. it's so complicated. let alone quarantining within the house and keeping three kids separate to try and event the spread in our house. >> so, let me ask you about a couple of things you mentioned. jeff, you know, you have not shown any symptoms of the virus and obviously catherine, you have tested negative. your daughter, you mentioned your other child, your daughter is negative. so, do you think that this is because of a result of all the things you've done? i see this pictures of your boys wearing masks and all these precautions that you've taken, or do you think that this is possibly because it is hard for kids to spread it? i mean, you're in the midst of this. nobody knows the answer to that. what do you think?
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>> you know, i think one of the more concerning things about this is that we just don't know. we don't know the answers to some of those questions. when we were leaving the hospital with scotty, they told me to sort of presume that i was positive. they've also said that even though catherine and our daughter tested negative initially they could, you know, be a false negative. they could test positive a few days later. there's an awful lot of unknowns with this illness. >> all right. well, i appreciate both of your time very much. i hope they keep getting better. i know you've got to be so worried with those continuing symptoms. but i really, as a parent myself, appreciate you're sharing all this with us. thank you so much. >> thank you. and next, going backward, washington state seemed to have a grip on covid-19 early in the pandemic. tonight though, deaths are on the rise and at alarming rate. so, what happened? and a major university announcing it is going to have thousands of students back in
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tonight, washington state seeing a 50% increase in coronavirus deaths in the past week, this after the state appeared to have the virus under control. so, what happened? dan simon is "outfront." >> they came and picked her up and put her in the ambulance. >> reporter: 17-year-old robert cordova called 911 when his mom's coronavirus symptoms became severe. >> we didn't know if that was the last time we were going to see her. >> reporter: she was hospitalized in washington for nearly a month on a ventilator. >> when she was in a coma, we didn't know what to do. >> reporter: now home, she believes she contracted covid-19 while working at a fruit packaging plant. all three of her children and her mother were diagnosed with mild cases. they are among the 50,000 washingtonians to get covid-19 since the state's first outbreak in january. >> first case of deadly coronavirus has reached the u.s.
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it's in washington state. >> washington was the country's original epicenter. governor jay inslee stay-at-home order seemed to bring things under control. and like other current hotspots, it began to reopen in may. >> three months to the day after we declared a state of emergency, we're successfully moving forward. >> reporter: but despite its head start, crowded working conditions, opposition to masks, and general quarantine fatigue have helped set the state back with confirmed cases rising since early june. the 7-day rolling average of confirmed cases is currently four times greater than it was two months ago. >> the virus is going to do whatever it's going to do and all it needs is a little bit of help to kind of go crazy. >> reporter: randy is a nurse practitioner using this makeshift medical tent to serve a food distribution center. agriculture workers here like bertha are considered essential. >> they were only separated,
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like she said, about this distance with a plastic screen with them and masks and gloves. >> reporter: the county now has the second highest number of cases in washington, yet state mandated mask wearing has been slow to catch on. >> it would be different if everybody did everything they possibly could, but we haven't seen that. >> reporter: our suppression of this virus is not at the level it needs to be. >> governor inslee is reinstating restrictions on social gathering. >> you can only go through this so many time bfrs people throw up their hands and they're like, what's the use? >> reporter: special events promoter grant harrington says he's lost up to $400,000 in revenue this year. >> there's a lack of morale. there's a lack of motivation. and i think that we've got to find ways to be proactive in safely opening businesses so we can have time to prepare, so we can do it safer. >> reporter: and the mother you
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saw there in the piece, bertha, she has a message for anyone willing to listen, erin, and that is to wear a mask. as we saw, washington is one of those states thought they had things under control. now health officials are wondering if it's the next california or florida. that's why governor inz lee instituted social restriks and he instituted the mask policy. you have to wear a mask. the question now erin is compliance. >> it certainly is. it's a cautionary tale. everyone thought they got it and got through it. here it is back again. the university of arizona is announcing students will be back on campus in a matter of weeks. the school's president is a medical doctor. he's going to talk about how he's making this decision. he's next. and a major warning about the safety of planes after reports of engine failure in the air. why coronavirus is likely to blame. are you still at risk for a heart attack or stroke?
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arizona announcing it will begin the fall semester one month from now with a mix of in person and remote learning. there will be in person classes. hospitalizations are high. they are showing some decline but obviously, you've seen e.r. doctors on this program talking about the dire situation. the president of the university of arizona. also a cardiac surgeon. dr. robins, i appreciate your time and i know you and i spoke in april when we were the epicenter, now your state is going through that. you know, so how -- where are you now? a month ago you said if you had to make the decision on that day, you wouldn't have in personal classes but now you're trying to have, you know, a significant portion of in person classes. how have you come to this decision now? >> well, we're very fortunate, erin, thank you for having me on your program again and doing this reporting. we're fortunate to have an
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incident command task force lead by a distin wished professor at the university of arizona and the 17th surgeon general of the united states and rich and his team look at the data every day and as you point out, we went through a bad spell in arizona and we're starting to see a decrease, just in pima county here in tuesdcson. we're seeing a definite decrease. we got about a month to go. we're hopeful that as our students come back and as we test them before they go in the dorms, we'll be able to find those asymptomatic positive cases and to be able to isolate them up front, and have very strict protocols that we'll ask everyone to have face coverings at all time and follow strict rules if they want to stay at the university. >> so what are these in person classes look like? i mean, i would imagine you're not go to do a giant whatever,
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economy 101 class with 150 kids in it. so is there a college across this country and universities that are completely struggling on this. what does your model look like? >> yeah, we'll have about no more than half the capacity of any lecture hall but we're purposefully limiting the number of students and adequately, physically distancing them in the classrooms. we'll have plexiglass guards for professors, and about half of our classes will have some in person contact but no more than that. >> but let me just say, it's a pretty incredible thing that you're able to do that, right? you're in a state where you were an accept eepicenter and now se decline in hospitalizations but harvard says all online and they are a place where everything is declining. what do you say to them? are they missing? >> i don't know they are missing anything. i think, you know, it's a risky
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proposition and a bold endeavor that we're taking, but we think we've got the team and the testing, tracing and isolation protocols in place that we can provide the safeguards to protect our faculty, staff and students. we're encouraging anybody that has any high risk or just is afraid to come back, stay away. but if you're going to come back to campus, you're going to have to follow the rules and it going to be very strict protocols. the concern i have as i was saying to you before we came on about university of miami and dr. frank, who is a leading international public health expert and president of the university of miami, he is absolutely in the epicenter of the world right now and he's planning to open the university of miami and we've talked and collaborated how we'll do this and we have to be very, very strict. both of us are concerned what happens off campus. for those students that live in
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the dorms, we have some control but off campus is where we think there's a high risk of not following the rules. that's why we're working with our mayor and our county to coordinate our efforts. >> obviously, a big question we saw what happened at the university of washington there. thank you very much dr. robins. next, engine failures in passenger jets. the warning tonight about air travel is connected to the coronavirus. wayfair has everything outdoor
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tonight, the faa warning of engine failures. pete is "outfront". >> reporter: they were parked by the pandemic but federal regulators say that is causing problems in the air, 2,000 boeing 737s are now subject to an emergency action by the faa. in a just released directive, regulators say both of the plane's engines could fail in flight after inabilititivety due to covid-19. regulators are making a rare warning the 75-ton airplane could become a glider forced to land when no airport is nearby. >> we are dead have an engine failure. >> reporter: last week the crew of an alaska airlines flight made an emergency landing after a problem in one engine. the airline says that incident was most likely one of four, the
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faa said spurred the emergency action. >> it would be fine. >> reporter: the new directive calls for inspections of any 737 parked for longer than a week. federal regulators say a critical valve can corrode and get stuck causing engine failure. airliners have been sitting idle from atlanta to arizona where scott butler's business is booming. >> we're under 30% humidity across the year. so no salt water, not near oceans, salt is deadly to aircraft. deadly to metals, you get corrosion. >> we have to stay on top of what is lhappening with the airplanes and maintain them as if they were flying. >> reporter: last month brian ker showed me united airline's 737s and dozens of others in storage in virginia. united crews were restarting planes regularly in hopes of avoiding problems. >> we have a set maintenance program for them. what we do is on a daily basis,
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we may go out and we run the engines. we'll check them. make sure that the oils are up to snuff. >> reporter: united, alaska and all major operators of the 737 insist to cnn they make maintenance seriously and will compile with newly mandated inspections. but, it's a new bump in what airlines hoped would be a smooth recovery. >> thank you for joining us. anderson starts now. so for all the talk of the president's change of attitude about the pandemic, more than 145,000 american lives into it, the president's spokesperson says change, what change? he's been totally consistent. john berman in here for anderson. a lot to get to after a week that saw the 4 millionth