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was work for everyone else in that room to do. john lewis now at the age 80 more throughout the next hour. "new day" starts now. giant in the history of the civil rights movement has died at the age of 80. >> we want to be free now. >> he always believed in the power of love and not hate and his legacy will grow and grow and grow. >> he didn't care about himself. he didn't care about politics. he didn't care about fame or fortune. he cared about making a defense. so he lived a purpose-driven life. >> we must never ever give up. we must be brave, bold, and
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courageous. >> his contribution changed this country. he marched alongside martin luther king jr. he rose to congress and spent his last days on earth still fighting for the same rights he was beaten and jailed for fighting for decades ago. this morning we are honoring the life of congressman john lewis. good morning and thank you for being with us. i'm victor blackwell. >> thank you for joining us this saturday. i'm abby philip in for kristi paul. congressman lewis lost his battle with pancreatic cancer last night. today the world is remembering the titan he was. here is cnn's martin savidge. >> reporter: throughout his life, john lewis stood for people's rights. born on an alabama cotton farm into a segregated america. he lived to see an african-american elected president, he would be a major part of making it happen. >> tonight we dwath -- gather here in this magnificent stadium
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in denver because we still have a dream. we still have a dream. >> reporter: lewis, growing up, was angered by the unfairness of the jim crow south. eventually lewis would become one of the most prominent leaders. as a student he organized sit ins at lunch counters. ♪ >> reporter: in the early '60s, he was a freedom rider. challenging segregation and interstate bus terminals across the south. he embodied nonviolence. he frequently suffered beatings by angry mobs. lewis, 23 years old at the time, was the youngest at the 1963 march on washington. >> we want to be free now. >> reporter: then two years later, lead a march for voting rights in selma. ♪ on the edmund pettus bridge, they were beaten.
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lewis suffering a fractured skull. it would be forever remembered as bloody sunday. it galvanize support for the voting acts signed into law by president lyndon johnson. lewis never lost his young activist spirit. taking it from protest to politics. standing up for what he believed right, lewis was arrested more than 40 times by police, according to his congressional office. >> we're going to win this race. >> reporter: he was elected to city council in atlanta and congress in washington representing georgia's fifth district. fighting against poverty and for health care while working to help younger generations by improving education. he reached out to young people in other ways. after writing a series of graphic novels about the civil rights movement. winning him a national book award.
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in a life of so many moments and proud achievements, it was the achievement of another in 2008 that perhaps meant the most. the election of president barack obama. >> we have never been just a collection of individuals or a collection of red states and blue states. we are and always will be the united states of america. >> the dream lewis was too impossible to consider decades before, even as he thought to forge its foundation. >> this is an unbelievable period in our history. martin luther king jr. will be forever pleased to see what is
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happening in america. this is a long way from the march on washington. it's a great distance from marching across the bridge in selma in 1965 for the right to vote. >> reporter: in 2011 after more than 50 years at the front lines of civil rights, lewis received the nation's highest civilian honor, the presidential medal of freedom, placed around his neck by barack obama. lewis wasn't content to making history. consider the impetus for the national museum for african-american history and culture. he never stopped stirring up good trouble, as he liked to call, boycotting the inaugurations of george w. bush after the contested 2000 election and vocally opposing donald trump in 2007 signing suspicions of russian election meddling. at a protest against president trump's immigration policy, the congressman, then an elder statesman riled up the crowds with words he lived by as an activist, as a lawmaker, as a leader. >> we must never ever give up. we must be brave, bold, and courageous. the daughter of martin luther king jr. said john lewis
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was like an uncle to her. she spoke with cnn a few hours ago. >> caller: john lewis who was one of few people who remained consistent and true to my father's nonviolence methodology. he was a true nonviolent lawyer. he was a pure-hearted man. his only motive was to stand up for what was right. to speak for those who could not speak for himself. it was never about him. it was always about the struggle, the cause, and justice and freedom. >> we also spoke with former ambassador to the u.n. and former mayor of atlanta, andrew young.
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i was just sitting here thinking there's a song that we used to sing in ♪ in the gray get up morning fairly well ♪ i think it's a great getting up morning for john lewis. john started his trek for freedom as a little boy and wrote to martin luther king when he was about 14. he was from alabama. martin sent him a bus ticket to come up and he got started and so he was probably about 15 when that happened. he has remained steadily on the case for justice and freedom and peace and nonviolence since the '50s.
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and i said that probably nobody has spent 80 years more deeply involved throughout those 80 years than john lewis. because he brought so much to the political arena that there must be 3/4 of the districts where a black minority, a minority of good will usually can make the difference between winning and losing. so every member of congress always wanted to have john come to their district. because he campaigned for everybody for over 34 years, everybody was indebited to him. he didn't convince you by his
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arguments. he convinced you by his life. he believed what we talk about and he lived it every day of his life. he didn't have a violent streak in his body. he was always forgiving and loving and understanding. i had never made you feel guilty. he made you feel responsible. when you feel responsible and you feel like you're loved and he's concerned about you, then you want to kind of do what he wants you to do. >> president obama, who awarded congressman lewis medal of freedom, in 2011 wrote this. "no many of us get to live to see our legacy play out in such a meaningful, remarkable way. john lewis did and thanks to him, we now all have our marching orders." >> we heard from president obama. president clinton, as well. still waiting on president trump in the white house. congressman johnson tweeted "john lewis was a giant of a
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man. never angry or puffed up with self-importance. he was a humble servant who loved humanity and we loved him back. thank you, john lewis, for your contribution, for the cause of love and peace. i will follow your example." >> his leadership is being felt all around the world. ireland's embassy tweeted "john lewis' impact extended far beyond america's shores. his example inspired civil rights activists in northern island, where six years ago, he joined another remarkable john crossing the peace bridge in derry. he will be sorely missed." cnn's national correspondent suzanne malvo joins us now. she covered john lewis and his legacy for many, many years. even recently you were able to speak with him over on capitol hill. tell us about that. >> well, abby, first of all, i mean, i have to personally acknowledge the tremendous loss of congressman john lewis.
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i mean, this is somebody who you grow up knowing about, learning about, my parents grew up in the segregated south and endured many of the indignities of the colored-only water fountains and hotels and lunch counters. everybody had a role to play in the civil rights movement, but there are few, special people who put their bodies behind their believes and sacrifice it time and time again. that was john lewis. that is the person, as a young girl, i grew up knowing about and learning about through my own family, my own experiences. so you can imagine he was just a rock star, really, kind of a star-struck when i got to congress and had an opportunity to cover him. i mean, he was a giant but he was also very humble and assessable. we just saw him just within the last month or so. he went to the black lives matter plaza in washington, d.c., standing side by side with the mayor there. he had incredible sense of pride in the black lives matter
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movement. i mean, it was not hard to see the parallels with his own leadership and nonviolent coordinating committee and how proud he was of the peaceful protests that had unfolded after the killing of george floyd in atlanta and about everything that has come to fruition has his fingerprints on it. i mean, he was years ago talking about the removal of a confederate statutes at the capit capitol saying we have to get our own house in order. it's time to cleans our own house. he spoke out about the immigration policies of president trump and the administration by giving a speech in 2018. i had a chance to catch up with him on my cell phone and do a little quick interview after wards to really press him on what is happening. what was happening at the time, which was the demonzation of these immigrants. i want to take a quick listen of
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the exchange. if you could respond to president trump's tweet. he's accusing yourself and other democrats -- he said wanting migrants to invest our country. can -- >> well it's shameful, racist, not keeping with the dreams and hopes americans. >> reporter: is it dangerous? >> very dangerous. >> you can see the flash of emotion. just underneath the surface. he was a a conscience of congress. no matter what it was you were covering, he had a role in it. whether it was the march on washington, the women's march on washington, or whether or not it was the sit in he did for 25 hours inside the capitol there calling for some sort of gun control legislation. he was extremely relevant and he didn't even have to be because his history was so great and big
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and grandiose but every single day he gave us his best. just such a tremendous loss, abby and victor. but clearly someone who really moved us forward in a way and who we are indebited to in many ways. >> you lived in atlanta. i've only been here for eight years now. but it's hard to overstate how much a part of a fabric of this city john lewis was. someone you just always imagined would be here. >> and all the people who we talk to, who we know in atlanta, i mean, andy young, i mean, the fact they had a relationship there and we would be able to speak to him. i mean, they were joined at the hip. clayton is another powerful civil rights figure in atlanta. i mean, just the community itself within that city was just so incredibly powerful.
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so it is just such a tremendous loss. from that advantage point, as well. i mean, these are the kinds of folks we had personal relationships and connections with and, also, grew up knowing about and learning about because they impacted our lives in such a meaningful, deep way. >> and there's a new generation learning about him with the new graphic novel, "march and run" featuring the late congressman. susan malvo, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you, victor. thank you, abby. congressman lewis is one of three civil rights pioneers that we've lost over just a little more than 100 days. reverend ct vivian died yesterday, as well. he was 95 and died of natural causes in atlanta. he was a freedom rider. at age 25, he helped lead the march on the edmund pettus
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bridge. father joseph working hand and hand with dr. e king. jesse jackson, also, he died in march at 98. >> our look back at the life and legacy of john lewis continues throughout the morning and the next hour we will speak with the reverend john lewis' pastor who was with lewis in his final moments. >> first, a reminder of the lesson that john lewis is featuring today. he shared this message with a generation of young leaders with cnn crossed the edmund pettus bridge with lewis in 2018. >> just give it all you've got. not get weary. be hopeful. be optimistic. take a long, hard look.
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there is this ongoing fight overmasks. so yesterday dr. anthony fauci urged local leaders to be as forceful as possible to get people to wear them. >> and it isn't just the debate over masks that is a flash point. now there's also conflicting information from health experts and the white house about schools. it has states grappling with what to do with students this fall. >> and on friday, we learned about this document prepared for the white house coronavirus task force recommending that 18 states rollback reopening. let's start there with dr. andr matthew. good morning. >> good morning. >> the center for public integrity posted this unpublished report compiled for the coronavirus task force. let's put up the map. it identifies 18 states as the red zone. new cases last week above 100
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per 100,000 population. recommendations to encourage mask wears, close gyms and bars. will it put the states on the right path? should there be more? >> yeah, good morning, victor. just when you thought the red on the maps cannot get any redder, we have a different color of what dark red means to indicate severity. i think we need to do a lot more, victor. as i've mentioned so many times on-air, we are deep in a crisis mode now with the virus surging. so i still feel like even in my state in georgia, we need to actually shut down the bars. we need to shut down all indoor dining and pull back to phase one. it's not enough to just pause. so i think that's a start, victor. there's still a lot of other metrics we need to look at. we need to really be aggressive on all fronts. to really kill this virus.
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really decrease the transmission. >> let's talk about testing. admiral inju they said the u.s. has gone from tens of thousands of tests per day in march to an average of 700,000 per day now. i want to put up a calendar that shows personally how long i've waited for mine -- my covid test results. i got the test on july 2nd, and i didn't get the result until the 17th. 15 days to get my test results. what is the value of these tests, if it takes two weeks to get the results back? >> so, victor, it's a shame that you had to go through that. guess what. that's exactly what all my patients are going through. our mayor had to wait to get results back. so ultimately what is happening is these labs are getting overwhelmed. so many people realize the cases are surging in georgia so they're rushing to anywhere to get a test.
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now, in terms of the significance of a test, if it doesn't come back in less than five days, if it takes more than three days, then we have missed that window of opportunity for contact tracing. remember, contact tracing is not only isolating the person who is sick, but contacting everybody that person is coming in contact with. one person can infect 59,000 people in a few weeks time. so you're walking around potentially being infected and spreading the virus. so that's why it is really key to get that test really under three days. >> one person can infect 59,000? how? >> in a matter of weeks, one person can infect that many people. the reason is one person can infect three people. if you can do the math, those three people will infect another three people it just exponentially rises. that's really why i tell all my patients that we all need to just act like we're infected. it doesn't matter if your test
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is positive or negative. when the community transmission is so high, the best way to protect everybody and yourself are the three w's i tweeted about yesterday which is wash your hands, watch your distance, and, basically, always wear a mask. that's going to help us cut down on this incredible rate of transmission. >> what are the implications of this new study out of the uk? it hasn't been peer reviewed but the study that shows that coronavirus anti-bodies start to decline after a couple of weeks to a couple of months. >> yeah, you know, victor, we don't need more bad news when it comes to covid-19 but i think there's silver lining in the news. what they're saying is you get exposed, get infected, you may develop anti-bodies and 30 days later they're showing the anti-bodies go down. if that were truly the case, victor, we should see a resurgence in the number of people infected that get infected again. and we're not really seeing
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that. there are also some studies that are showing it's not just anti-bodies that protect you, but, also, the t-cells, which are memory cells that also help protect you against a second infection. so i'm still hopeful it doesn't mean that you can get infected a second time around. >> yeah. me, too. doctor, thank you so much for being with us this saturday. >> thank you, victor. and coming up next, president trump's niece who just sold a million copies of her book is criticizing the president and his family. she's telling cnn that her uncle is a deeply damaged man and he won't get better. to be honest... a little dust?
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president trump is attacking his niece, mary trump, over her tell-all book. too much and never enough.
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how my family created the world's most dangerous man sold nearly a million copies on its first day of release. >> yeah. it's number one on amazon. mary trump was on with chris cuomo last night. she's dismissing the criticism she wrote this book out of revenge. if -- if donald had continued to be a private citizen, we wouldn't be having this conversation. there -- you know, you've seen what's been going on with covid-19. you've seen what's been going on with racial strife in this country. the problems are getting
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exacerbated, every day. we are in serious trouble here. and a large part of that is because donald is incapable of leading, and he is being enabled by people who, apparently, are only interested in using him towards their own ends. >> kristen holmes joins us now. the president went after his niece on twitter last night. he's comparing her to john bolton who recently published a critical book about the president. there's no one, it seems, who sells more books than president trump, kristen. >> that's right, abby. two of the nearly dozen people who have written a book about donald trump criticizing him during his tenure in office three years. this response on twitter comes after the book release but after we started seeing the interviews with mary trump. she had stunning revelation after stunning revelation. including claims, at one point, she heard president trump use racial slurs, including the n-word, and heard him make
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antiemetic remarks. we'll pull the tweet here. first, he talks about bolton so we'll skip that. he said next up is mary trump. a seldom-seen niece who knows little about me. she also broke the law by giving out my tax returns. she's a mess. many books have been written about me. some good. some bad. both happily and sadly there will be more to come. i think we can agree he's right about that. there will be more to come. we did see mary trump respond to this saying she didn't break her nda. we want to make clear it went to court already. her family had tried to stop the publication of this book because of the nda and her lawyers arguing that it violated the first amendment. also, arguing that the nda was no longer valid because it was all around the settlement of her grandfather's estate. they won that case. so that should be clear here.
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now on the part of him calling her a mess, she said she didn't really care. this was something he uses predominantly as an insult to women and she was proud to stand with some of the other women he called a mess. >> kristen, before we go, have we heard anything from the president or from the white house about the passing of congressman lewis? >> nope. we are here and we will keep you posted. we have seen multiple retweets from president trump last night about everything but the passing of john lewis. we heard, as you have been covering extensively from the last hour and a half from several other lawmakers, democrats, republicans but nothing from president trump and the white house. >> thank you so much. so to wear the mask or not to wear the mask. there's new information, if you think wearing a mask is only to protect others.
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at some point the government has step to in se if you don't wear a mask, you'll get a fine. just like if you don't wear a seat belt, you get a fine. it's something to protect yourself and society. if you don't want to wear a mask, stay home. >> that was salesforce ceo comparing the debate over mask mandates to the debate over seat belt laws. >> it's easy to forget that seat belts and the laws enforcing
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their use was controversial. now according to the department of transportation, seat belts save roughly 15,000 lives per year. it's difficult to say how many lives masks could save but the cdc said wide spread mask wearing could bring the coronavirus outbreak under control in a number of weeks. why are masks controversial? we'll go to jacqueline howard of what we know of the science behind it. >> reporter: the evidence is pretty clear. wearing a mask can help reduce the risk of spreading the coronavirus and even getting sick. here is one study from the medical journal. some evidence in it suggests that the chance of transmission with not wearing a mask or res -- respirator is 17.4%. when wearing the mask, the chance may fall to 3%. another study in the journal finds that the design and materials of face masks can
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control respiratory drop lets that could contain viruss. when not wearing a mask, drop lets from a cough can travel 8 feet. with just a bandanna they can travel 3.6 feet. masks work by locking the drob lets that the wearer might spread just from talking or breathing. or coughing or sneezing. health officials also say that wearing a mask can help protect the wearer, too. here is dr. anthony fauci and others on the white house task force. >> there's no doubt that wearing masks protects you and gets you to be protected. >> we need to support mask wearing. when i'm not in uniform, i wear them. they're white. they're effective. i think they're a great investment for the american people. >> it's not an inconvenience. it's not a suppression of your freedom. >> when you're outside and not having the capability of
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maintaining distance, you should wear a mask at all times. >> the message is clear from the experts, wear a mask. now researchers also noted that none of the masks they tested were 100% effective in blocking drop lets, so that just emphasizes the importance of social distancing and following other guidelines combined with wearing a mask. >> thank you. one more thing you brought up that i want to talk about -- actually, you'll have the conversation about the protection for the wearer. so when you wear the mask, it's not just to protect the other person. it can protect you. she's got the research out of san francisco. that conversation coming at 8:00. we'll have more on the issue. but take a look at this. unidentified masked men in camouflage snatching protesters on the streets of portland, oregon coming up. we'll speak to the former deputy fbi director andrew mccabe about
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another night of violent protests in portland, oregon. for 50 days. protesters have clashed with federal, state and local authorities. in that city. >> and now there's a video that's getting a lot of attention of some men in camo here with masks. and now filing a lawsuit against a few agencies that she says
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were involved. oregon's governor, oregon's mayor. they've condemned the arrests. let's bring in andrew mccabe, former director of the fbi and cnn law enforcement analyst. andrew, good morning to you. first, let's start here, based on what we know, who is being arrested and who is doing the arresting? is this legal? >> well, that's a great question, victor, so based on what we know, or at least what i know from the reporting i've seen and from that video that you referenced, and statements made by dhs officials, yesterday, i believe those individuals who grabbed a few protesters, or at least one protester and put him in an unmarked vans. it's incredibly disturbing for me a law enforcement official to
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see that. i know federal agents are authorized to make arrests only when probably cause has been committed. it's not just that you're driving around in your unmarked van and sue see somebody who looks suspicious. probable cause is when you go before a judge and do arrest warrants to do that safely. what we see in that video wasn't consistent with anything that i've seen or experienced as an agent working in this country. >> yeah. and i think a lot of people would be surprised to find that customs and border protection can arrest americans, on american soil, in american cities. president trump has made no mistake about it, he wants the federal government to be involved in these matters that would normally be handled by state and local police. do you see evidence that the president is kind of using the force of the federal government, the justice department, to bear down on protesters.
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and is there any jufrstificatio in your mind, for that kind of intervention on the federal government's part? >> so, there's no question that they are. there's deployed federal agents around the country, portland is probably the most, you know, active example of protest activity that's been going on there for 50 days. so, the federal government and under president trump's direction has taken a very, very strong and engaged hand in sending federal agents in to work what are typically crowd control and riot control issues by local police. the legality of that i think is dubious. the wisdom of it is also highly questionable. particularly in places like the pacific northwest, cities like portland, that have a long history from the both the right and left-leaning political groups deploying any agents.
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so deploying federal agents into portland is almost going to invoke a hostile reaction. you're taking what is already a volatile situation and a high-risk situation and making it a lot worse. >> i wonder what you think about the language. i've got this statement from the acting secretary of chad wolf from dhs in which he says that the federal courthouse is a symbol of justice. to attack it is to attack america. and then he's got this list of what he said violent anarchists gra graffitied the building. it sounds a lot like what we heard from defense secretary mark esper about nominating the battle states. what do you make of the language we're hearing from these department heads? >> well, i mean, that's the acting secretary's comments
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might ring well in a political speech. but that is not the administration of law enforcement. as i know it. or as americans should be looking for in this country. it's emotionally charged. it's completely disconnected from the legal ramifications of sending agents into these situations. and apparently authorizing them to conduct investigative activity like surveillance. and arrests of people for whom there has been no finding of probable cause, that they've actually committed a federal crime. look, the activity that you see in those videos, by the protesters, whether you agree with them or disagree with them, whether you think they're being unruly or, you know, ugly language, or whatever that might be, until it gets to the point of violence and destruction of property, it is protected speech. it's protected by the first amendment. and that's what federal agents should be out there protecting, people's right to stand up and
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talk about how they people about their government. >> yeah. i think one of the things that's so chilling about this is the fact that they were unidentified. did not want to identify themselves in the moment. andrew mccabe, thank you for joining us this morning. >> sure, thanks. take a look at this. this is the front of the "atlanta journal constitution." john lewis, georgia civil rights icon, contemporary of martin luther king jr., politician and humanitarian dies at 80. >> coming up, we'll be sharing memories of the congressman. we'll be right back. last night's sleep, interrupted by pain?
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