Skip to main content

tv   CNN Newsroom With Fredricka Whitfield  CNN  November 9, 2019 11:00am-12:00pm PST

11:00 am
of the second call and i'm willing to provide that. we'll probably give it to you on tuesday, monday being a holiday. we'll probably give it to you on a tuesday but we have another transcript coming out which is very important. they asked for it and i gladly give it. there's never been a president who has been so transparent. >> that call that trump was referencing happened three months before the conversation at the heart of the impeachment probe. and next week, house investigators will hold public hearings for the first time, and it comes as house republicans today submitted a list of potential witnesses they would like to see testify in this probe. witnesses that are sure to ruffle some of the feathers of many democrats. cnn's jeremy diamond joining me right now live. jeremy, what do we know about this second transcript, how this information, you know, was put together, what the president is promising come tuesday? >> that's right. well, fredricka, it's interesting. the president had previously floated releasing more
11:01 am
information about his other calls with the ukrainian leaders and this is the second call that we know of that he had with the ukrainian president, zelensky, took place in chronological order. it was the first call that happened, it was zelensky had a landslide election victory. there's very little known about this call. there has not been the kind of hubbub around the first call, it did not promise the same kind of concerns amongst national security officials, as the second call in july did. certainly interesting to see the president now promising to release the rough transcript of that call. i'll also be looking to see what the ukrainian reaction is to that, despite the fact that the president said he consulted ukrainians we know that the ukrainians were in fact fairly caught off guard by the release of that transcript, and unnerved by it because in it you hear
11:02 am
zelensky saying not too positive things about other european leaders. >> what about this list, republicans have submitted a list of potential witnesses they want to hear from in this impeachment probe and one of them on the list is hunter biden. tell me more about this. >> that's right. well, look, republicans are clearly trying to deflect the focus of this impeachment inquiry and try and bring back the things that president trump was in fact asking the ukrainian president to investigate by bringing in hunter biden who sat on the board of barisma, the company president trump wanted the ukrainians to investigate. republican lawmakers asking for the whistleblower to come forward and testify publicly. these are requests that are never going to come to fruition. the house intelligence committee democrats have to actually approve these requests in order for them to go forward. we're seeing a statement now from the chairman of that committee, adam schiff. he says that the committee is evaluating the minority's witness request and will give
11:03 am
due consideration to witnesses within the scope of the impeachment inquiry. he also says that as they move into this open hearing phase, the committee and mindful that we are engaged in a sober endeavor rooted in the constitution, and this third paragraph is the key one where he says the inquiry is not and will not serve as a vehicle to undertake the same sham investigations into the bidens or 2016 that the president pressed ukraine to conduct for his personal, political benefit or to facilitate the president's efforts to threaten, intimidate and retaliate against the whistleblower who courageously raised the initial alarm. there you have it, making pretty clear there, hunter biden will likely not be coming forward to testify, and neither will this whistleblower who democrats have been adamant about protecting this intelligence official's identity. however, the invitation for volker and morrison to come forward and testify, those are areas where there could potentially be a little bit more wiggle room and bolster the
11:04 am
president's narrative a little bit more than some of the others. >> jeremy diamond, thank you so much. with me now, ross gar ber who teach impeachment law at tulane law school and a cnn legal analyst. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> let's talk about the second transcript the president is promising as early as tuesday. why would he want to do this, what might be in this call? >> presumably he wants to release it because there is nothing bad in the call for him, and notably, as jeremy noted, this is the week the house starts holding public hearings and so i think if this call is in innocuous, if it's not harmful for the president, he'll use it to point out there was nothing wrong with his relationship with ukraine. i think that's the point and to try to present an alternative narrative this week. >> and this call would have come shortly after president zelensky's win, and yeah, it's
11:05 am
not like likely to underscore the favor that the president, you know, talks about in the july call even though he said it was a, you know, perfect call. so all of this, too, is coming as house republicans have submitted this list, the wish list of witnesses, hunter biden being on that as well. democrats not likely to sign after on that. what is the point? >> yeah, i think there are sort of three levels of points here. i think the first as jeremy pointed out, it's to sort of frame the narrative that, you know, that the president at least believes, i think the house republicans are going to try to show, the president at least believed that what we asked ukraine for was appropriate. he was concerned about corruption in ukraine and that potentially the former vice president biden was somehow involved in that, so that's why trump asked for that investigation. and then the same thing with respect to the dnc, and the dnc server that the president was legitimately concerned about
11:06 am
that. i think that's why witnesses related to those two issues are on the list. the second level, i think, the house republicans are going to want to point out and we should expect this to happen next week at every turn that the process is unfair, and they're going to use this list to show, kind of bolster their position that the process is unfair, that they submitted a list of potential witnesses and that the house democrats didn't call any of them. they're not looking to get to the truth, and the house republicans were sort of shut out of the process, and let me throw out a third point that i think you're going to, that's going on here. which is sort of a shot across the bow about a senate trial because right now, democrats in the house control the witness list in the senate. it's going to be the republicans who control the witnesses, and i think the house republicans are sending a message. >> giving them some ideas. >> well, yeah, if you pass articles of impeachment, get ready for a senate trial in which hunter biden, at least, is
11:07 am
going to be subpoenaed to testify and that is going to happen no too far from the beginning of primaries and caucuses for the democrats! interesting. okay. now, let's talk about the white house chief of staff, mick mulvaney, and, you know, democrats want him to testify, and, you know, he is claiming that he has absolute immunity when it comes to testifying in the impeachment probe. will that hold up, is that a viable argument? okay. so the notion of immunity, and absolute immunity for the president and senior advisers has been around for a long time. administrations from both parties have claimed that kind of immunity. the court cases, though, are limited. there's a trial court, the lowest level district court opinion from a while back that said they're at least for the white house counsel then was no
11:08 am
absolute immunity. there's no appeals court decision. no supreme court decision. it's really an open issue about immunity, and so it's not a surprise to see the claim. house democrats don't want to litigate it. they don't want to have this tied up in court. they don't want to get court decisions because that is going to take a long time, and so what they're saying is, look, fine, you want to claim immunity, don't show up. there are going to be two potential consequences. one is you may have just bought the president another article of impeachment for obstructing the congressional investigation and second, we may draw what they refer to as an adverse inference against the president and you. in other words, if you don't want to show up and testify, we're going to assume, infer that what you have to say is not going to be helpful to you and the president and when we find facts, when we produce a report, we're going to use that assumption to draw conclusions. >> and infer that there is something to hide without that kind of cooperation?
11:09 am
that's right. >> that's going to be their position on this. that's exactly right. >> ross garber, thank you so much. >> good to see you fredricka. still to come in the cnn newsroom, the escalating fight in the 2020 primary. joe biden and elizabeth warren, they're now trading new barbs. tyler's off to college. and mom's getting older. mhm, and eventually we would like to retire. td ameritrade can help you build a plan for today and tomorrow. come with a goal. leave with a plan. td ameritrade.
11:10 am
come with a goal. leave with a plan. with licensed agents availablep when 24-7,d it. it's not just easy. it's having-jerome-bettis- on-your-flag-football-team easy. go get 'em, bus! ohhhh! [laughing] c'mon bus, c'mon! hey, wait, wait, wait! hey man, i got your flag! i got your flag, man! i got your flag! it's geico easy. with licensed agents available 24/7. 49 - nothing! woo!
11:11 am
if you're stayingcessful businessat holiday inn.is easy, we're there. so you can be too. if you have moderate to thsevere rheumatoid arthritis, month after month, the clock is ticking on irreversible joint damage. ongoing pain and stiffness are signs of joint erosion. humira can help stop the clock.
11:12 am
prescribed for 15 years, humira targets and blocks a source of inflammation that contributes to joint pain and irreversible damage. humira can lower your ability to fight infections. serious and sometimes fatal infections including tuberculosis, and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. help stop the clock on further irreversible joint damage. talk to your rheumatologist. right here. right now. humira. welcome back, senator elizabeth warren hitting back at form former vice president joe biden over his attacks over her medicare for all plan.
11:13 am
warren now seems to be implying that biden's characterization is sexist after biden released a scathing op-ed in which he described warren's my way or the highway approach as angry. cnn's arlett, how is biden respond to go warren's response to his descriptions. >> reporter: joe biden is pushing back on the idea that him calling her angry has anything to do with her gender, but this all stems from a comment made last week by elizabeth warren when she suggested that the former vice president is running in the wrong presidential primary because he disagreed with her on medicare for all. that's what prompted biden to write that post in medium where he talked about what he described as warren's my way or the highway approach and in there, he describes that, those types of attacks, as being angry
11:14 am
attacks. warren in a fundraising e-mail wrote that so often women are described as angry. and she said i am angry and i own it. yesterday, joe biden was asked about this comment by our colleague dana bash. take a listen to what he had to say. >> that has nothing to do with it. what i was responding to was her saying that because i disagreed with her medicare for all proposal and didn't think it was forthrightly stated exactly what it was going to do and how much it was going to cost, that i'm running the wrong primary. well, that's not anger. that's just misleading. > she's taking it and making it about how women are referred to. you think that that's misguided? >> that's not anything that i did or intended to do. it had nothing to do with that. >> reporter: now, you've sign joe biden really sharpen his criticism of warren, particularly on the issue of medicare for all. the two politicians on opposite
11:15 am
ends of that health care debate. joe biden is here in new hampshire where he's going to be holding a town hall shortly and elizabeth warren is going to be making a trip back to the state, filing for the state's prime on wednesday. >> arle >>. jeff sessions wants his old job back, and it appears he wants constituents to know he is still team trump even though the president fired him and had a whole lot of ugly words to describe him along the way. >> when i left president trump's cabinet, did i write a tell-all book, no, did i go on cnn and attack the president. nope, have i said a cross word about our president, not one time, and i'll tell you why. first, that would be dishonorable. i was there to serve his agenda, not mine.
11:16 am
>> joining me right now, white house reporter for the "washington post" and cnn political analyst, and we're so lucky that he's here in atlanta today. so talu, what does sessions' approach say about the trump support in his district that he is trying to appeal to. >> yeah, well, this is a crowded primary in alabama, and jeff sessions is trying to win, and to win in alabama, you have to have support from president trump. the fact that he's even running is pretty interesting because he was as you said, fired by the president. the president said the biggest mistake in his first term was hiring jeff sessions. jeff sessions recused himself from the russia probe and that led to the investigation that president trump thinks is the worst part of his president. it seems like it's working for jeff sessions and the president hasn't attacked him and said let's try to torpedo his campaign from the get go. i wouldn't be surprised if that happens eventually because there's osteo -- so much hard feelings. didn't talk about education,
11:17 am
didn't talk about issues important to alabama voters. and his conservative values. >> he didn't disparage, go on this network and others to say anything critical of the president but the president was kind of asked about this yesterday, and he just kind of said he was, you know, it was interesting. he didn't necessarily commit to campaigning for jeff sessions, but did he leave the door open a little bit? >> maybe. i would be very surprised if he campaigned before the primary was over. he may wait until the primary is over, if jeff sessions is able to win, this is an eight person primary, all these candidates are talking about how much they love president trump, and i'm sure the president likes that part of it. once the primary is over, this is an important senate seat, a very tough map for republicans this time around. this is one state where a democrat is in the position and likely that republicans could flip one of the few states that they have that they could potentially flip in 2020. president trump is a pragmatist in some ways. i wouldn't be surprised if jeff
11:18 am
sessions comes out of this, but for now, it does seem that jeff sessions is the one trying to put the olive branch out there to president trump. >> and let's switch gears a little bit. yesterday president trump made an extensive pitch to african-american voters at a campaign stop in atlanta launching the black voices for trump coalition. here's what's some of the supporters told us about why they are back in the president and why -- backing the president and why they're attending that event. >> he's righting the wrongs from the clintons and do nothing democrats. >> the president talked to us as black americans, but not as black americans but simply as americans. we have been forgotten by the democrat party for so many years but it's so good to hear a president of the united states talk about our issues directly. not afraid of what he says, we loved it, we received it, and we're going to move forward. we're going to put him across the finish line in 2020. >> love donald trump, he always kept it real with you. that's a gift.
11:19 am
most people cannot tell you the truth. >> so will this be, you know, revisiting the what have you got to lose, you know, kind of comments of the president or is this going to be see, i told you so. >> the president, he's going to be trying to show, yonl black voters but -- not only black voters but moderate white voters, no i'm not a racist, i have a diverse group of people supporting me. this is signaling as well, because he needs to win in some of those states that not only have large black populations and also places he has lost a huge percentage of the suburban votes, the fact that he puts off different people. that's part of the reason he's trying to showcase he is willing to go to places to reach out to diverse voters and show that the things that happened in charlottesville, the things that he said about different members of congress, go back to where you came from, those aren't the things he's going to be campaigning on in 2020. i do believe because the president's support in the african-american community is
11:20 am
still in the single digits, he's not only trying to increase that, but signal to other voters, he's not as toxic as he has been in the past. >> interesting. it's going to be a fascinating year. it has been interesting along the way, but in the final stretch here, one year to go before election day, fascinating. >> lots to watch. >> that's right. that lieu olorunnipa, thank you so much. taking questions from voters live in a cnn democratic town hall, less than 100 day before the pivotal iowa caucuses, and erin burnett moderates the town hall, monday night, 9 eastern right here on cnn. still ahead, a new lawsuit accuses a former ohio state university doctor of sexual misconduct. what a referee says happened when he told congressman jim jordan, then an assistant wrestling coach at osu about the alleged misconduct. [ typing ]
11:21 am
♪ people, our sales now appla new low!10 frames. at visionworks, our sales are good on over five hundred frames. why are you so weird? for a limited time, get two complete pairs for $49. really. visionworks. see the difference. the roomba i7+ with cleanng base automatic dirt disposal and allergenlock™ bags that trap 99% of allergens, so they don't escape back into the air. if it's not from irobot, it's not a roomba™ anyoonly marco's can deliver america's most loved pizza. hot and fresh, and right to your door. every day, get two medium, one-topping pizzas for just $6.99 each. hello to america's most loved pizza. hello marco's.
11:22 am
♪ beds get sick too protection. lysol laundry sanitizer kills 99.9% of illness- causing bacteria detergent leaves behind. lysol. what it takes to protect. billions of problems. sore gums? bleeding gums? painful flossing? there's a therabreath for you. therabreath healthy gums oral rinse fights gingivitis and plaque and prevents gum disease for 24 hours. so you can... breathe easy, there's therabreath at walmart.
11:23 am
that could allow hackers devices into your home.ys and like all doors, they're safer when locked. that's why you need xfinity xfi. with the xfi gateway, devices connected to your homes wifi are protected. which helps keep people outside from accessing your passwords, credit cards and cameras. and people inside from accidentally visiting sites that aren't secure. and if someone trys we'll let you know. xfi advanced security. if it's connected, it's protected. call, click, or visit a store today.
11:24 am
dad! dad!! can you drive me to jessica's house? ♪ at northwestern mutual, this is what our version of financial planning looks like. tomorrow is important, but so is making the most of the house before they're out of the house. spend your life living. find an advisor at northwesternmutual.com. a college wrestling referee
11:25 am
says he complained to ohio state university's wrestling coaches about sexual misconduct by one of the team doctors, but they did nothing about it. one of the assistant coaches at the time was current congressman jim jordan. the claims are part of a lawsuit filed this week by 43 men who say they were sexually assaulted, abused molested or harassed by dr. richard straus. congressman major djordan has repeatedly denied knowing about the abuse. the ref says he told jordan directly about the alleged sexual misconduct. >> along with the head coach for the wrestlers and this lawsuit is 165 pages in length. this is the complaint. it goes on and on of 43 alleged victims and here's what's amazing because this is a federal suit. they are only suing one defendant, ohio state university, title 9 allegations they have, violations.
11:26 am
but what is so fascinating about this and so really horrendous is that they cite so many medical professionals, doctors, assistant physicians, nurses, at least one in this, saying that they told those people and they did nothing. they talk about just a scenario one after the other. it's all the same, they would go in as a patient, and they would have something wrong with them, but the doctor would immediately look at and assess their private parts and it went on from 1978 through 1998. now one of the alleged victims was not a student, he was a paid referee. and he said in 1994, '95, he was refereeing a wrestling match, and that is where jim jordan was an assistant coach and after that, the ref went into the public sauna, shower, and he saw dr. straus pleasuring himself in front of everybody else, right
11:27 am
there in front of them. he said something to dr. straus, he walked out of the shower, and according to this accuser, he went to the head coach and the assistant coach, which was jim jordan and said what he just saw in the shower, and the response was, yeah, that's straus. and so the allegations are that many many people knew about this, but none of the accusers believed they were actually being sexually assaulted. they just thought he was a weird guy. over and over the victims say that. the attorney for the alleged victim, sean smith says quote this is not a political issue in our estimation. this is an issue about ohio state. this isn't about jim jordan. he happens to be a witness. he just happens to be a name of a person who was present, and a representative for jim jordan says congressman jordan never saw or heard of any kind of sexual abuse and if he had, he would have dealt with it. multiple investigations have
11:28 am
confirmed this simple fact, and the ramifications of this for the ones that were allegedly assaulted, some committed suicide, many dropped out of school, many did not go on. many have had this haunted, they have questioned their own sexuality since they were in college. now, ohio state responded to this massive suit with a statement to cnn. they said ohio state has led the effort to investigate and expose the misdeeds of richard strauss, and the systematic failures to respond and the university's committed to a fair resolution, and they also are providing therapy for these victims but they are asking for monetary damages and title 9 allegations to be deemed violations. >> yeah. so sad to hear all of that. all right. jean casarez, thank you very much. the impeachment inquiry enters the public phase with televised hearings, including
11:29 am
key witnesses but will it do anything to sway public opinion. we have two historians joining us with their insight.
11:30 am
do you have concerns about mild memory loss related to aging? prevagen is the number one pharmacist-recommended memory support brand. you can find it in the vitamin aisle in stores everywhere. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. tothe problem is corporationsfix anything. and the people who run and own them have purchased our democracy. here's the difference between me and the other candidates. i don't think we can fix our democracy from the inside. i don't believe washington politicians and big corporations will let that happen. the only way we can make change happen is from the outside. for me,
11:31 am
this comes down to whether you trust the politicians or the people. and if you say you trust the people, are you willing to stand up to the insiders and the big corporations, and give the people the tools they need to fix our democracy. a national referendum. term limits. eliminating corporate money in politics. making it easy to vote. i trust the people. and as president, i will give you tools we need to fix our democracy. i'm tom steyer, and i approve this message. t-mobile's newest signal reaches farther than ever before... with more engineers, more towers, more coverage. it's a network that gives you... with coverage from big cities, to small towns. introducing t-mobile's 600mhz signal. no signal reaches farther or is more reliable.
11:32 am
and it's built 5g ready.
11:33 am
welcome back, the house impeachment inquiry moves into its public phase with open hearings. the democrat led inquiry plans to call the special envoy to you crane, george taylor, the white house demanded an investigation into joe biden in exchange for an oval office meeting. and friday, marie yovanovitch, the former ambassador to ukraine will testify. impeachment proceedings are extremely rare but not unprecedented. what can history tell us about how this might play out. with me is julian zelizer and
11:34 am
professor larry sabado. if you look back into the impeachment 20 years ago, was it the right move for republicans at the time? >> are you asking me? >> yes, larry. >> sorry, fred. >> that's okay. >> look, back in nixon's time, you need to remember, there were only three networks, you weren't here, fred. >> i wasn't at cnn, but i was around. i was living in washington but good ahead. >> you're too young for that. you can go ahead and say that if you want. but the focus was very concentrated and the hearings were incredibly dramatic and what made it even better for viewers was there was a bipartisan theme to those hearings. republicans had open minds. they were listening. quite a few of them ended up supporting nixon's impeachment. i'm not sure all of those
11:35 am
elements are here this time. we'll wait and see what comes out here. >> it was at watergate time that inspired me to starting reading newspapers as a little one, just so you know, larry. >> okay. >> so julian, you know, yes, there have been impeachments, you know, president clinton, andrew johnson, but within them, did you have a white house discouraging witnesses from testifying or refusals to, you know, respect congressional suspects to that extent, this extent? >> well, i mean, you did in different ways. richard nixon certainly tried to use executive privilege aggressively. ultimately he tries to keep control of the white house take place so that those are not made available to the grand jury and to congress, but they are in the end, he loses. president clinton tries to keep kenne kenneth starr who's the independent prosecutor from being able to interview all of his advisers, and ultimately loses that battle in court.
11:36 am
so i think what we're seeing with president trump is a scale and scope. it's the way in which he experts executive power. it's just much bolder and much grander than what we saw in those other two cases. >> and so larry, you know, if federal courts, you know, protect the executive branch officials who have currently filed a lawsuit, you know, from testifying, how do you see this possibly forever, you know, leveraging the powers of the executive branch against any checks and balances efforts? >> well, it will make investigative powers from congress kind of toothless. boy, what richard nixon wouldn't have give for this kind of stone walling. julian knows that well. nixon tried to stone wall, but you had a heavily democratic congress, and many of the judges had also been appointed by democrats. so this is a very situation. i think the democrats in the
11:37 am
house are going to have to focus heavily on what they have already discovered. there's really enough there to carry this through. they have to focus on that and make people understand it, repetition, repetition, repetition. >> and so julian, is that why democrats might feel like it will be particularly instrumental and important to hear public testimony from those that they believe have already, you know, gleaned so much detail, and information in the behind closed doors testimony. >> it is. i think they're hoping that the power of seeing the actual witnesses say what they've said in private, and talked about these documents will be extraordinarily dramatic for the public and possibly even some voters in republican areas. we don't know if that's going to happen, but that's the goal. but the hearings won't be like the hearings under president nixon, meaning the republicans are going to go after everything
11:38 am
from day one, tooth and nail, talk about the investigation, try to smear people. talk about bidens. so it's going to be very difficult for democrats to keep concentrating on the facts of the case. >> and larry, to your point, it does appear that the democrats might be ready to forego some key witness testimony like, you know, that of john bolton, since, you know, the tactic of delay perhaps may be in order now. even though john bolton's attorney says he has some really important vital information, but there's an unwillingness to like hurry up, you know, and testify. >> yeah, well, that was quite a tease from bolton's attorney. i think we'd all like to know what it is he knows because bolton of course was fired. he has some motives to tell us some interesting things. just to add to what we have been talking about, here's an element that's really totally different
11:39 am
than the nixon case. look at all the surveys that have been taken. there have been about two dozen of them. the one thing we have learned is almost all democrats are already in favor of the impeachment and for that matter, ouster and almost all republicans are totally opposed to impeachment and ouster, so i don't know who's left to convince in public thaer hearings and that's another reason for relying on the facts but not insisting that every i be dotted, every t be crossed. >> does that just underscore, then, julian, that it's public opinion that really could be the most flun sinfluential in all o. >> it's the most important fact, the republicans will not turn against the president unless there's a political reason to do so. the partisanship that protects the president is the only thing that could harm him with the president and that's where public opinion could come in, but it's not moving so far, and
11:40 am
again, this will be watched on our modern media ecosystem, which has a lot of partisan voices and partisan analysis that will try to keep people exactly where they are, and not shift as a result of what they see and here. >> julian zelizer, larry sabado, we'll leave it there for now. thank you very much, gentlemen. >> thank you. >> thank you, fred. a warning for students taking the s.a.t.s, your data may be sold to universities and wait until you hear what they're doing with that information allegedly. what i love most about being a scientist at 3m is that i'm part of a community of problem solvers. we make ideas grow. from an everyday solution... to one that can take on a bigger challenge. from packaging tape... to tape that can bond materials to buildings... and planes. one idea can unlock a breadth of solutions. at 3m, we are solving problems that improve lives.
11:41 am
one idea can unlock athenot actors, people, who've got their eczema under control. with less eczema, you can show more skin. so roll up those sleeves. and help heal your skin from within with dupixent. dupixent is the first treatment of its kind that continuously treats moderate-to-severe eczema, or atopic dermatitis, even between flare ups. dupixent is a biologic, and not a cream or steroid. many people taking dupixent saw clear or almost clear skin. and, had significantly less itch. that's a difference you can feel. don't use if you're allergic to dupixent. serious allergic reactions can occur, including anaphylaxis, which is severe. tell your doctor about new or worsening eye problems, such as eye pain or vision changes, or a parasitic infection. if you take asthma medicines, don't change or stop them without talking to your doctor. so help heal your skin from within, and talk to your eczema specialist about dupixent.
11:42 am
the pain and swelling.. the psoriasis. cosentyx treats more than just the joint pain of active psoriatic arthritis. it even helps stop further joint damage. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infections and lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor about an infection or symptoms, if your inflammatory bowel disease symptoms develop or worsen, or if you've had a vaccine or plan to. serious allergic reactions may occur. get real relief, with cosentyx.
11:43 am
11:44 am
as if the college admissions process isn't stressful enough, s.a.t. test takers beware, your names and personal info may be sold to universities around the country, many using it to make themselves look better. joining me now, the reporter who broke the story for the journal, douglas, good to see you, how this works, the college board, the nonprofit that owns the s.a.t.s is selling the test
11:45 am
taker's information for $0.47 a pop, and they can do that without the test taker's consent? >> they do get the test taker's consent. there's a question on the survey, which is part of the information they sell asking the students whether or not they want their information disseminated. whether or not, a 14 or 15-year-old kid who is about to take a high stakes test is in the game on the question is an open question but about 80% of kids check that box, so they have an opportunity to turn it back! >> how does this benefit the colleges that are buying it? >> the schools are in the business of getting as many kids to apply to them as they can, and they take the information from the surveys and from the test scores. they get a sort of package by the college board, they buy it, and they use that to market themselves. they send e-mails and brochures so kids are getting, you know, thousands of come ones from colleges and universities letting them know that they would like them to apply.
11:46 am
>> so the college boards, you know, business is benefitting from this as well, to what extent? >> so the college boards are a really big business, their revenue is in excess of billion dollars, several years ago, according to the tax returns we looked at. the amount of money generated from this end of the business is somewhere in the category of under a hundred million dollars. it's not quite sure how much it is, but it's certainly in the tens of millions of dollars. >> so then help us understand how, you know, this whole sequence of events, you know, the schools, you know, buy this data. they recruit, perhaps the student, the student decides to apply. may not necessarily get in. i mean, what happens here? >> so i think the rub with this story that's gotten people upset is that some schools are reaching out to kids whose s.a.t. scores are probably below what they're going to accept. so they're inflating the applications, the number of applications that are coming in, and they do that in a sense
11:47 am
because by getting more applications, they can reject more students. so the kids are being used as pawns to some extent in that they really didn't have a chance to begin with, even though the schools said, please apply. i think that's pretty disheartening and what's got people, you know, annoyed. >> that's cruel, but then the flip side or the benefit that the school sees is then they can appear to be an exclusive school or one that's, you know, so sought after, but we only accept a handful of students and that piques the interest of people? >> yeah, it's like anything else, you know, people want to join a club that other people aren't able to get into. the exclusivity, the prestige is really one of the core products of higher education. you know, people associate brand name schools, ivy league schools with special people who have done special things and they want to be a part of that specialness, so it connects and that helps them elevate their brand. >> okay. so what's the best advice for students about to take the s.a.t.s, how do they protect themselves besides i'm already
11:48 am
telling my 14-year-old who's about to take his, don't check the box, but then what else? >> i think just thinking through before you sit down to take the test that this is coming, this is part of the s.a.t., there's a series of questions that you're going to be asked, and then you're going to have an opportunity to either let this information go or not. and then take, if you do, take with a grain of salt, the information that's coming to you in these brochures. these schools are not looking specifically, recruiting you, you know, they're marketing themselves broadly. the mistake a lot of teenagers make is they think when they get this information that they're being asked to join this club, and really, it's just the beginning of a long process. >> wow. >> and the second leg of this. >> kind of being tricked. >> well, yeah, that's a lot of kids. not happy about it. and the other sort of front that this is being fought on right now is data privacy. there's a lot of states around
11:49 am
the country that have laws that say it's not okay. it's not legal to buy and sell the information of miners without the consent of the parent -- minors without the consent of the parents. so places have carve outs, that's okay but not for us, we're an exception. that's being challenged around the country in different places and congress is looking into this now. i think this is going to become a public policy debate. >> very revealing and very fascinating. doug belkin, thank you so much, very important. coming up, an american man is searching for his two young children in syria after his wife took them to join isis. we'll show you what he discovered. she wanted to move someplace warm. but he wanted snow for the holidays. so we built a snow globe. i'll get that later. dylan! but the one thing we could both agree on was getting geico to help with homeowners insurance.
11:50 am
what? switching and saving was really easy! i love you! what? sweetie! hands off the glass. ugh!! call geico and see how easy saving on homeowners and condo insurance can be. i love her! if you're stayingcessful businessat holiday inn.is easy, we're there. so you can be too. it also has the highest growth in manufacturing jobs in the us. it's a competition for the talent. employees need more than just a paycheck. you definitely want to take advantage of all the benefits you can get. 2/3 of employees said that the workplace is an important source for personal savings and protection solutions. the workplace should be a source of financial security. keeping your people happy is what keeps your people. that's financial wellness. put your employees on a path to financial wellness with prudential.
11:51 am
amanda's mom's appointment hello mom. just got rescheduled - for today. amanda needs right at home. our customized care plans provide as much - or as little help - as her mom requires. whether it's a ride to the doctor or help around the house. oh, of course! tom, i am really sorry. i've gotta go. look, call right at home. get the right care. right at home.
11:52 am
11:53 am
kurds in northern syria said they felt abandoned when the u.s. abruptly withdrew u.s. troops. but for one dad in the u.s., the withdrawal also means a heartbreaking year's long search for his children in syria. and it's now going to be even more difficult. rosa flores has the story. >> beshear alshikter has been on
11:54 am
an agonizing quest to find his american born children. it all started in march of 2015 when he says his wife of eight years rashida sumaya, kidnapped 4-year-old yusef and 9-month-old and joined isis in syria. >> it was impossible pain that i was going through, but in the same time, i was turning to my faith, believing in god. >> a month later, isis called him with an ultimatum, join or lose your wife and children. shikter says he reached out to american authorities, even giving federal agents access to his computer, his phone. >> so i'm sick. i'm always coughing. so i miss you. >> and to the most intimate conversations with his family. >> so i miss you. i like you. i love you.
11:55 am
i know you love me. >> when i would be talking to my son, i tried my best not to show my tears to him. i tried my best but sometimes i could not. >> these images of his children captured by his wife nearly broke him. yusef motionless, sahira pretending to eat. >> did they have enough to eat? >> no, they were making soup with grasses. no fruits, no food. nothing is there. >> and then there were the sounds of war, so frightening that yusuf packed his toys. >> he was telling his mom that my daddy is coming to pick me up. >> he wanted to come back to miami. >> yeah. >> his wife asked for money for the children. >> send a very good amount, like at least 3,000. >> i really wanted but at the same time, i didn't want to do anything that i will disrespect
11:56 am
the laws. >> under u.s. law, wiring cash could kuwait equate to a terror organization. under isis law, his punishment f was spelled out in the document. >> the court is funullifying yo marriage. >> no contact, no info. >> his wife was killed in an air strike, the children suffered burns to their faces and were in the care of isis, desperate, shikter travelled to camp in syria. there a boy said he saw yusuf but he was too late. shikter a naturalized citizen was confident commandos would save his children, then u.s. forces exited children, leaving his american children behind. >> do you feel let down by the u.s. government? >> yes. >> let down but not defeated.
11:57 am
he says his quest is not over until yusuf and sahira come home. rosa flores, cnn, miami. >> and thank you so much for being with me today. i'm fredricka whitfield, cnn newsroom is back at the top of the hour with ana cabrera and the latest on the impeachment inquiry. right to your door. dough made from scratch, every day. sauce from our original recipe. and authentic toppings like crispy, old world pepperoni™. because the italian way is worth celebrating. every day at marco's, get two medium, one-topping pizzas for just $6.99 each. hello to america's most loved pizza. hello marco's.
11:58 am
this piece is talking yeah?. so what do you see? i see an unbelievable opportunity. i see best-in-class platforms and education. i see award-winning service, and a trade desk full of experts, available to answer your toughest questions. and i see it with zero commissions on online trades. i like what you're seeing. it's beautiful, isn't it? yeah. td ameritrade now offers zero commissions on online trades. ♪
11:59 am
there's a company that's talked than me: jd power.people 448,134 to be exact. they answered 410 questions in 8 categories about vehicle quality. and when they were done, chevy earned more j.d. power quality awards across cars, trucks and suvs than any other brand over the last four years. so on behalf of chevrolet, i want to say "thank you, real people." you're welcome. we're gonna need a bigger room.
12:00 pm
what's this? cindy, that cold's gonna keep you up all night. and tomorrow, you're gonna be a zombie! forget that, i'm taking a new nighttime cold medicine. ha! there's nothing new. 'fraid so. new mucinex nightshift cold & flu fights my worst symptoms so i can sleep great and wake up human. so, you don't want to be zombie. no, i've gotta work tomorrow. don't eat me, i taste terrible! new mucinex nightshift cold & flu. uniquely formulated to fight your worst symptoms so you can sleep great and wake up human. hello,

87 Views

info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on