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>> chairman kim, how do you feel? >> translator: president trump has just walked across the demarcation line. that made him the first u.s. president to visit our country. >> translator: i believe looking at this, this is an expression of his willingness to eliminate all the unfortunate past and open a new future. >> i just want to say that this is my honor. i didn't really expect it. we were in japan for the g-20. we came over and i said, hey, i'm over here, i want to call up chairman kim. and we got to meet and stepping
across that line was a great honor. a lot of progress has been made. a lot of friendships have been made. this has been in particular a great friendship. i just want to thank you. that was very quick notice and i want to thank you. we're going to go and talk a little while about different things. and a lot of really positive things are happening. and i'm glad you'll be here to see it. but tremendous positivity, really great things are happening. and in a lot of places, but we met and we liked each other from day one. and that was very important.
thank you, everybody. thank you. i would invite him right now to the white house. >> guys, back. >> so those two leaders met for as we said nearly an hour. south korean president called it a big step forward. the question is, what comes next? cnn international correspondent paula hancocks with us now. paula, do you get the sense that there is a new trust built here? >> reporter: well, victor and christie, it is interesting, the one thing that stuck out to me from what kim jong-un was saying
is when he first met president trump at the mdl, the military demarcation line between north and south korea, he said i didn't expect to see you here. until yesterday this wasn't a suggestion to the north korean leader. and we saw when he was talking about the singapore summit there was a suggestion it would be at the dmz, trump's advisers suggested it shouldn't be. the same with the hanoi summit. you saw history being made as he stepped into north korea. so even kim jong-un it appears was taken by surprise that this had even happened. now, we were promised a handshake by president trump. he said it will possibly be a two-minute chat, just a hello at the border. we certainly saw more than that. this was not a summit, but it was far more than a handshake. just over an hour, in fact, an hour and four minutes acording to the blue house, they timed that bilateral meeting behind closed doors between kim jong-un and president trump, we don't know what was spoken about there, but when president trump came out, he said they have
agreed to restart the talks. they are setting up their respective teams to make sure that they are going to push this forward. now, one interesting thing again that kim jong-un said as he was leading president trump out of the meeting and heading back toward the northern side of the dmz, he said, fact, the fact we will be able to meet each other any time now, this is a signal this meeting will send. that seems to be the main thing that kim jong-un has taken away from this meeting as far as we can tell, the fact they will be able to meet anywhere, at any point. but, of course, what comes next is the crucial question. is this a handshake diplomacy or is this going to move forward? at least at this point we can say the talks are no longer stalled. >> we'll see what they do with those talks. paula hancocks for us there in the dmz, thank you. >> a big question. we'll talk with somebody next who has some ideas about what might happen from this point on. stay close. (burke) at farmers insurance, we've seen almost everything,
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this morning, for the first time we saw a sitting u.s. president walk across the border into north korea. then north korean leader kim jong-un walked into south korea, but did that with president moon of south korea back in april. the two sat down to meet for almost an hour. two other u.s. presidents have visited north korea, but they waited until they were out of office to do it. president carter went to north korea in 1994 to persuade kim
il-sung to negotiate with the clinton administration over its nuclear program. he returned in 2010 to free a hostage being held there. and then former president clinton went in 2009 to free two american journalists being held hostage by kim jong-un's father. >> before the historic handshake between president trump and kim jong-un, the president was asked how the substance of the relationship has changed through the meetings. watch the way he answers bloomberg's margaret talon. >> hope you'll indulge me since we get one question, i'll try to make it count. why do you want to step into north korea and what do you think that handshake could actually accomplish? nothing has substantly changed since hanoi, north korea tested short range missiles. why does kim jong-un deserve this moment and how do you respond to the critics who say it is nothing more than a photo-op or you're legitimizing
a nuclear state. i also quickly need to get in one china clarification which is your agreement with president xi as of yesterday, does that bring you back to the point in april where they had made a lot of concessions on ip and that sort of stuff or back at november, back at the beginning of the process? and may i -- >> two very distinct questions. before you do a third -- you'll do that in a second. >> thank you. >> we made tremendous strides. only the fake news says they weren't. if you look again, i don't have to repeat it, but if you look again at where we were two and a half years ago, and i think i can say the hatred everybody had for everybody, and where it was going and i said that if president obama's term was for some reason extended through any method including having a successor that thought the way that that administration thought, you would be right now at war with north korea. and it wouldn't be pretty. it would be tough. we have the greatest military in
the world by far. we have a much greater military now than we had two and a half years ago as you know very well. you reported on it. we brought tremendous equipment from jets to ships to equipment for soldiers, but we are in a much different place right now, margaret, than we were two and a half years ago, much different. and the previous administration wanted to talk. i would ask people why aren't they talking? and not everything happens with talks. some bad things happen with talk too. but in this case, we are so far advanced from where we were two and a half years ago. >> we appreciate, ambassador, you taking the time to be with us. what do you think, of course, must be different in this upcoming summit whenever it is, the president and kim jong-un saying their teams are working now to get the process going. but what has to be different
next time around than what we have seen in the past? >> well, what has to be different is we have our negotiators meeting. we're actually talking about the substance and the substance is complete verifiable denuclearization. for north korea, a path to normalization with the united states. it is also a peace treaty. but also the lifting of sanctions. so this is work for our negotiators. i think that's the difference. if we can have our negotiators actually meeting, and doing the heavy lifting, i think that's progress. >> so -- but what will they have to establish as the foundation before we see president trump and kim jong-un sit down together? >> you know, i think they have to establish the end goal what are we looking for? what is the end goal here? when we talk about complete verifiable denuclearization, do we both as north korea and the u.s. agree that it is complete verifiable, all nuclear weapons and nuclear weapons facilitys? and on the part of the u.s., for north korea, what do we mean by normalization of relations?
transformation of relations, a peace treaty? what is the timeline for lifting sanctions? these are issues for the negotiators. >> what does the u.s. know about the nuclear ambitions and capabilities of north korea? are you confident that it is accurate? >> you know, i think the -- i think the intelligence community has done a great job on north korea. i think they understand the nuclear program, missile program. i think they're looking at that reality and we have all seen it with the nuclear tests, thermal nuclear tests, anti-continental ballistic missile launch. i think we have a good sense of what north korea has in terms of nuclear and weapons capabilities. that's what this is all about. >> at the end of the day, though, you're still having a u.s. president sitting down with a dictator who has been accused of killing family members that north korea has huge human rights abuse records. how do you address that?
and still get what you want in terms of denuclearization? >> i think your point is an excellent point. north korea understands as they move towards a more normal relationship with the united states and what they want is a normal relations with our embassies and the respected capitals, they have to address human rights issues, there has to be progress on issues like this. i think the key here is getting them to agree on the denuclearization issue and then that gets them on a path to normalizing relations which would include the whole question of human rights. and also illicit activities. >> ambassador joseph detrani, thank you for taking time for us. thank you. president trump, chairman kim made history this morning. they now say there will be talks. we'll talk with a former state department negotiator about what is ahead for these two countries and how the president can get to denuclearization if it is possible. with all that usaa offers
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good. and we really appreciate it. we appreciate it very much. so this was a scheduled visit from a number of months ago. we went from the g-20 and i promised your president, president moon is a friend of mine, i said we have to see the dmz, and so this was scheduled for a long time ago. and then yesterday i had the idea, maybe i'll call chairman kim and see if he wants to say hello. so he didn't give him much notice, but we respect each other. we respect each other. maybe even like each other. and he's agreed to meet and i'm going to meet him in about four minutes. so i'm going to cut my speech a little bit short other than to say you are terrific people. you've done a fantastic job. and we're with you all the way. you know that.
move, move. clear. all of you. clear. come on. come on, guys. wait until they move. >> thank you, mr. president. >> great moment. >> great moment. great moment. great progress. >> okay, guys, come on. come on. go, go, go. move, move. move, move. >> where are they going? >> clear. >> they're going straight. they're going straight.
>> how do you feel? >> i feel great. it is a great honor to be here. a great honor. >> no one expected this moment. >> u.s., over here. u.s., over here. >> chairman kim, how do you feel? >> translator: president trump has just walked across the demarcation line. that made him the first u.s. president to visit our country.
>> translator: i believe looking at this, this is an expression of his willingness to eliminate all the unfortunate past and open a new future. >> i just want to say that this is my honor. i didn't really expect it. we were in japan for the g-20. we came over and i said, hey, i'm over here, i want to call up chairman kim. and we got to meet and stepping across that line was a great honor. a lot of progress has been made. a lot of friendships have been made. this has been in particular a great friendship. i just want to thank you. that was very quick notice and i want to thank you.
we're going to go and talk a little while about different things. and a lot of really positive things are happening. and i'm glad you'll be here to see it. but tremendous positivity, really great things are happening. and in a lot of places, but we met and we liked each other from day one. and that was very important. thank you, everybody. thank you.
i would invite him right now to the white house. >> guys, back. >> great day for a lot of people. great day for the world. a great day for the world. it is an honor for me to be here. thank you, both, very much. i have to say when i first became president of the united states, there was great conflict in this area. great, great conflict. and now we have just the opposite. and it is my honor. it is the chairman's honor. we work well together and, mr. president, thank you. >> i need help here.
>> known for excellent relations between the two of us. that could not have been possible without this kind of opportunity. i would like to use this strong relation to create more good news, which nobody expects. also to propel our good relation. >> i want to thank you, chairman. you hear the power of that voice. nobody heard that voice before. he doesn't do news conferences. in case you haven't heard. and this was a special moment. and this is, i think, really as president moon said, this is an historic moment, the fact that we're meeting. i want to thank chairman kim for something else. when i put out the social media notification, if he didn't show
up, the press was going to make me look very bad. so you made us both look good. and i appreciate it. but we developed a great relationship. i really think that if you go back two and a half years and look at what was going on prior to my becoming president, it was a very, very bad situation. a very dangerous situation for south korea, for north korea, for the world. and i think the relationship that we developed has meant so much to so many people. and it is just an honor to be with you and it was an honor to step over the line. i thought you might do that. i wasn't sure. i was ready to do it. and i want to thank you. it has been great. it has been great. very historic. just saying one of the folks from the media was saying this could be a very historic moment. and i guess that's what it is. but i enjoyed being with you. and thank you very much.
speaking with president moon, oftentimes he was saying this is historic, just the meeting is historic. i think there is something to that. it will be even more historic if something comes of it, something very important. but a lot has already come up. >> historic moment indeed. but the question is, what are the global implications of this and where will these talks go from here? we'll discuss next. discover elvive protein recharge
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more on the historic moment this morning between president trump and north korean leader kim jong-un. the first sitting u.s. president to set foot in north korea. president showing he's not afraid to have unconventional meeting with leaders like kim jong-un. what does this say to u.s. allies or other world leaders? let's discuss with aaron david miller. welcome back. let's start here with just your reaction to the optics of the president taking those steps into north korea and the sentimental warm relationship that we saw play out this morning in the dmz? >> i think that's the key to this in many respects. president trump made a strategic decision to change the basic conversation. in essence, to stop talking about north korea and start talking to north korea. now, maybe it was done for reasons of domestic politics, of
personal vanity, maybe he's determined and i think he is to look at north korea as a signature issue of his presidency. it is his ticket into the history books. it is his ticket to a nobel. it is a way to separate himself in such a fundamental way from all of thinks departures, 30 years, administrations and presidents have tried everything. sanctions, cooperation with our military allies. and on two occasions in 1994 and 2003, serious diplomacy in which north korea committed itself to denuclearization and yet we find ourselves in 2018 with chairman kim basically saying his nuclear program was complete. he has ballistic missiles that can hit the continental united states. and anywhere from 15 to 60 deliverable nuclear weapons. so i think this is a critical signature item in the president's diplomacy. and it may well be that there is a window that kim, in fact,
senses, that trump going into an election campaign, there is an opportunity to take advantage of trump's own willingness to sit down and engage with kim in the event he ends up with -- kim ends up with a successor that is not nearly as willing. >> there are talks that the two have agreed to, and you know this cycle, this has been going on for some time now, that there will be talks, then an agreement, and then a breach of that agreement, and then a breakdown and then talks again, right? we're going back into the cycle. there is a player here that we have not discussed, an hour and 38 minutes into the show, and that's china, and their role, even if they do sfloteat at the table, how much of an influence they have over this relationship especially as we saw president xi there just a couple of weeks ago in pyongyang. >> we still don't know the basic ticktock on the back story. maybe in fact the birthday greeting from chairman kim to trump in the last week or so
that put the idea of a meeting. maybe it was the xi/kim meeting of ten days ago in which they discussed and maybe xi delivered a message to the president that chairman kim would be open. so the chinese clearly have a role to play. and in a way they would like to see progress on this, but they do not want to see what i call the domestication of north korea. they do not want to see an agreement that unifies the peninsula, certainly not under american auspices. can you imagine if president trump succeeded, not just in creating an interim agreement on the nuclear issue, but presided over a formal end to the north korean, south korean war. this would put american influence together with japan right on china's doorstep. so chinese would like to use the north korean issue to leverage their other issues including
trade. >> they also don't want to see tensions and sanctions so stiff on north korea that there is a refugee crisis at their border that they have to deal with as well. it is a very narrow space for china. aaron david miller, good to have you. >> thank you. >> former nba star dennis rodman had a message. he tweeted, quote, wishing my friends real donald trump and kim jong-un a very good meeting, much love to you both. keep up the wonderful progress. #peace and love. he sad down with chris cuomo last year and said north korea's leader is moving on from the past and so should the u.s. >> i think that if trump goes there with a great heart, with his heart on the table, and let kim see him, really emotional, as far as speaking to him, ain't got to be about war, ain't got to be about hatred or what happened in the future or the past, the past.
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well, this morning we have to talk about another birther conspiracy. this is similar to the one against former president barack obama. crossing the internet. but this time senator and presidential hopeful kamala harris is the topic. >> during thursday's democratic presidential debate, donald trump jr. retweeted a harris critic that questioned her identity. trump jr. later deleted the tweet, but not before it was seen by his millions of followers. harris' campaign compared the comment to president trump's birther conspiracy that targeted president obama. >> former vice president joe biden, who had a tense exchange with harris during this week's debate, is among many of the 2020 candidates who are defending her this morning, writing this, quote, the same forces of hatred rooted in birtherism that questions barack
obama's american citizenship and even his racial identity are now being used against senator kamala harris. it is disgusting and we have to call it out when we see it. racism has no place in america. we should also point out that washington state governor and 2020 candidate jay inslee had this to say. >> well, unfortunately it appears that the rotten apple doesn't fall too far from the rotten tree. and what comes to mind is the question to the whole trump family at last, have you no decency, sirs? >> harris was born in oakland, california, to a mother from india and father from jamaica. and in march, the senator addressed the issue of critics who questioned her heritage. >> i'm not going to spend my time trying to educate people about who black people are. i was born black. i will die black. and i'm proud of being black and i'm not going to make any excuses for anybody. because they don't understand. >> with us now, daniel litman,
reporter and co-author of politico's "playbook." let's start here with there are obvious similarities between what we're seeing as it relates to senator harris and what the president promulgated against president obama. but that was president trump then private citizen trump, this is donald trump jr. in a retweet that was deleted. how broad is this? how impactful could it be? >> well, it has clear signs of being similar to the whole birtherism against former president obama. because basically it is questioning your legitimacy to be an american citizen, and an american president. and unfortunately these types of things target people who are minorities. and so many americans may not be as familiar with the fact that there are many african-americans who are from jamaica, who immigrated from jamaica. and kamala harris is not just
african-american, but also her mom is from india. and she used to visit that place as a child a lot. so i don't think that this is going to be a huge theme of the republican message against her if she's the nominee because it did not go along very well with obama. he got two terms. and this seems even more far fetched against kamala harris because she was born in california, no question that she is legitimate to be elected president if majority of americans want her. >> there was also no question that barack obama was born in hawaii, but, of course, that went on for quite some time as well. >> hawaii is a little more -- we love hawaii, but most americans haven't even been to hawaii, and people think they don't feel as connected to the mainland, but, you know -- >> i hear you. but, you know, most americans haven't been to wyoming, nobody questions that as a state.
let's go here to this new joe biden some might call it a gaffe. he was speaking at a fund-raiser. in seattle. and he made this off color remark. it said that five years ago if someone had, quote, made fun of a gay waiter that it would have been brushed off. it appears that he was suggesting that public sentiment about gay rights had progressed in just the last five years. he was vice president five years ago. the crowd pushed back, some shouting not in seattle, others saying, maybe that would have happened, but long before five years ago. another problem for joe biden or is this a major problem? >> i think this is a more -- more of a momentary issue. especially since there is no audio or videotape of this because it is a private fund-raiser that he lets his -- you know, a pool reporter go into, which is more than you can
say of many other democratic and republican candidates to let reporters into private homes when they are talking behind closed doors. but this is just another own goal by vice president biden. there is no need for this type of controversy. you don't want to, you know, tick off the gay community, which is a very -- very important part of the democratic constituency. so there is just no need for him to say something that is also not true. >> all right, we'll see if this one has legs. daniel lippman, thank you so much. 2020 democratic candidates julian castro and senator amy klobuchar the guests this morning on "state of the union" with jake tapper. watch here at 9:00 eastern here on cnn. . so there was royalty. a heated rivalry. and a whole lot of scoring. that spectacle as america's past time made its debut in london. we're going to take you there. you try hard,
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30 runs, the second most ever in the series. and they have been playing baseball since 1903. the yankees come out on top 17-13 the final. the semifinals are set at the women's world cup. sweden doing something few teams have done against germany in the tournament, come from behind. down 1-0, the swedes score two straight goals before. yesterday, germany had only lost two world cup matches ever when scoring first. they were 28-2-2. sweden will play the netherlands, making the first ever trip to the semis. coming up on wednesday. and, remember, team usa plays england in their semifinal match on tuesday. and that is at 3:00 p.m. eastern time. so much excitement from that women's team, from team usa. we're down to the semis. >> yes. good luck to them. >> i do like a good freddie mercury pun. >> of course. that was easy. >> thank you. thanks. so president trump and north korean leader kim jong-un, they met, but the question is what
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