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the light in this world. it's what makes life worth living. thank you for watching tonight, cnn, with d. lemon, right now, "cnn tonight". >> "cnn tonight," happy mama's day. >> beautiful lady and boy is she proud of your ugly ass. >> you know what, i'll take it. she's proud of you too. she really is. she loves you, and tell christina i said happy mother's day and to your mom as well, two really great women. i'm just surprised you're not a better person being associated and around them all the time. why is it not rubbing off? >> not everyone works out. there is darkness and light. that's why they need me and you. it's our character as opposite from our complexion. >> i'm glad you did that. this week is -- i'm going to start out by talking about what a chaotic week it's been. there have been so many stories, right, this would have been a
year's worth of stories in one week we've done on the administration. i'm glad you did people who are doing good things. it's -- that's nice to hear. >> we get absorbed. people tell us all the time, sometimes when we're together, i can't take it i love you guys but i can't take it, i've got to turn it off, man, too much dark, too heavy, too constant. they're right. we've got to apportion it, remember it's not pollyanna to say there's good and bad. >> don't tell nobody, during the day -- i want to be informed, so i'll watch the news in the morning and there's a big chunk of my day that i spend watching me tv, you know what that is? >> clips of yourself? >> that would be you, that was good though. that was good. you didn't even have a drink in your hand. usually you come up with that stuff when you have a cocktail. i'll watch the rifle men and wagon train and bonanza and
ponderosa and i dream of jeanie and charlie's angels. you've got to take a breather once in a while. i understand what they're saying. >> it's good for you to do it. not me. >> you're obsessed. 24/7/365. >> have a great weekend, see you on sunday. >> best to mama. this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon, what a week it has been, frankly a week of chaos. so many outrages from this administration it's hard to focus on just one of them. today it's been really one headline after the other, if you don't believe me, i'm going to reel them off for you, okay? this is our big story tonight sources telling cnn that the white house asked don mcgahn, don mcgahn is the former white house counsel, asked him to publicly state that the president did not obstruct justice. mcgahn refused. the source goes on to say that the president was upset by mcgahn's refusal to say what the president wanted him to say.
i'll bet he was. the white house has since ordered mcgahn to defy his subpoena from democrats. sure doesn't seem like the president believes his own line that he was -- he's been 100% exonerated from the mueller report. if he really thought that, why would he need don mcgahn? this is all the more reason the american people need to hear from don mcgahn and from robert mueller. in their own words. and there's more today. i told you. a top lawyer, the top lawyer at the fbi, when the russia investigation began, is saying that he feels compelled to speak out. his name is james baker. and he says the investigation was open for "lawful legitimate reasons" and he calls conspiracy theories like those pushed by the president and the attorney general "bs." oh, but there's more.
a retired supreme court justice today accusing president trump of overstepping his presidential powers, retired justice john paul stephens flatly telling the wall street journal that the president "has to comply with subpoenas." "has to comply with subpoenas." a former supreme court justice. remember the president said this is going to go all the way to the supreme court, well the supreme court, one of them has already said he's got to comply. all of this in the wake of the president publicly saying this. >> we're fighting all the subpoenas. >> then there's the president's personal lawyer encouraging a foreign government to interfere in american politics. i'll say that again. the president's personal lawyer encouraging a foreign government to interfere in american
politics. which sure seems like colluding right out in the open. have they learned nothing? rudy giuliani tells cnn that he stumbled on what he calls a damaging story in ukraine about joe biden and his son, pretty convenient isn't it? stumbling on an allegedly damaging story about the democratic rival the president fears the most. house judiciary chairman jerry nadler saying this. >> we've come to a very sorry state when it's considered okay for an american politician, never mind an attorney for the president, to go and seek foreign intervention in american politics. >> so giuliani saying that he is investigating questions about then vice president biden's call in 2016 to remove a ukrainian prosecutor who at one point had been investigating a ukrainian company connected to biden's son. here's the fact. the fact is, that prosecutor's
ouster was called for by many western governments in an anti-corruption push and there's no evidence that biden acted improperly. and get this. giuliani claims it's not meddling because the election is a year and a half away. the things that people come up with. congressman adam schiff not buying that. >> the fact that giuliani is doing this in plain sight again raises the same problem, the same specter that we had in the last election when the president invited russia to hack his opponent's emails. he's inviting a foreign government to involve itself in our campaign by conducting an investigation of a family member of the rival the president apparently fears most, joe biden. >> listen to this. it's from senator elizabeth warren. >> i just think it is highly unethical for the president's personal lawyer to go meet with officials from a foreign
government to see if they can influence somehow the upcoming presidential election. we've had enough of that. and rudy giuliani should just back off. >> well, he said it doesn't matter because the election is a year and a half away. didn't you hear him? i kid. the president also lost another battle in the war over his tax returns today. house ways and means committee chairman richard neal has sent subpoenas to the irs commissioner and to the treasury secretary steve mnuchin for six years of trump's personal and business returns, all of that coming at the end of a week when we saw the former director of the fbi tell cnn that he believes the president of the united states obstructed justice
and would have been charged if he weren't president. >> and so in your opinion there was corrupt intent at least in several of those episodes. >> sure looks that way from the report's factual recitation. >> if, you know, they're now -- what, i think it's up to 800 former federal prosecutors who've worked in both republican and democratic administrations who have signed a statement saying that mueller's findings would have produced obstruction charges against president trump if he weren't president. do you agree? >> yeah, i agree. >> no doubt? >> no doubt. >> a week when the house judiciary committee voted to hold the attorney general in contempt for refusing to hand over the full mueller report and its underlying evidence. when the president of the united states was revealed to be a con man and a fraud after "the new york times" reported that the man who ran on his reputation as a billionaire business genius, lost a staggering $1.7 billion for the ten years, for ten years from 1985 to 1994. when the president's oldest son was subpoenaed and not by house
democrats but by the republican-led senate intel committee. oh, and yes, this happened. the president laughed when a supporter at one of his rallies yelled out that asylum seekers should be shot. >> when you have 15,000 people marching up and you have hundreds and hundreds of people how do you stop these people? you can't, there's no -- that's only in the panhandle you can get away with that stuff. >> all of that in just one week. almost too much to take in. seriously, all of that in one week. and all i was doing is just reeling off the things that happened, subpoenas, denials, someone should be shot, ha, ha, ha. but here's the big picture. this is exactly the way the president wants it.
he thrives on chaos. all this chaos, all these outrages. plays right into his hands. think about this, people. can you really focus on one single thing? if you can't focus on any one single thing that means you are distracted, distracted from the issues that matter to americans every single day. issues like health care, income inequality, education. i've said this before, but democrats, the american people, you're going to have to decide, decide how they want to respond to all of this, do they want to respond with impeachment, or do they want to respond at the ballot box? maybe it's both. and the clock is ticking. i told you the white house asked don mcgahn to say the president didn't obstruct justice, but mcgahn declined to do that. don't we need to hear from mcgahn himself about all of this? lots to discuss, julia, renato mariotti, max boot next.
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tonight a trump administration source con -- saying publicly the president did not obstruct justice but mcgahn declined to do it. the white house made the request to mcgahn twice before and after mueller's report released to the public. let's talk about it. julia kiem is here, renato mariotti and max boot. max, this reporting by "the new york times" about white house counsel don mcgahn being asked twice, before the report and after the report, just say i didn't obstruct justice, does it
make it crystal clear the public needs to hear directly from mueller and mcgahn? >> it's why the white house is trying so hard to block mcgahn's testimony. needless to say if mcgahn were willing to go before congress and say donald trump did not obstruct justice trump would do everything he possibly could to expedite his testimony instead of trying to invoke executive privilege to block it. even if mcgahn said trump did not obstruct justice that would not exonerate trump. obviously under oath before
congress he is going to have to testify the same things he told mueller, which is a pretty ironclad case of obstruction of justice. >> a very interesting. julia, bring you in now and let me read this from the times reporting. okay. it says the white house made one of the requests to mr. mcgahn's lawyer, william a. burke before the mueller report was released publicly but after the justice department gave a copy to mr. trump's lawyers in the proceeding days, what do you make of this? >> the white house may on its own have had a sense that don mcgahn may have been the guy that had gone loose, he testified for a couple dozen hours, had been making statements since he left the white house that suggested his relationship with donald trump was not good. and he is also someone who is going back to law practice and definitely wants to protect his reputation so the timing does look suspicious but it may have been -- it didn't take a genius to know that don mcgahn, one, does not -- when you're speaking for a couple dozen hours you're
generally saying something. it's always like he was saying everything was fine, i think that's what they were clearly worried about and don mcgahn is now as a private citizen and a lawyer pushing back and saying i'm not going to do that story line for you guys, mueller refutes it and presumably don mcgahn would refute it. >> here's what don mcgahn's lawyer is telling cnn, we did not perceive it as any kind of threat or something sinister, it was a request professionally and cordially made. so i want your reaction to that. but also, you know, is there anything illegal about these attempts by the white house? does this feel like witness tampering or obstruction in any way? >> you know, it -- i can understand why people are saying that it certainly has a -- looks like that in a way but, you know, technically speaking he's not asking don mcgahn or the white house isn't asking don mcgahn to change his factual testimony. in other words, don mcgahn has
whatever opinion he has about whether or not donald trump obstructed justice or broke the law. as max said a moment ago regardless of mcgahn's opinion the evidence is what it is. here they're asking him, hey, will you proclaim as a lawyer that he hasn't obstructed justice? don mcgahn is, i think, walking a tight rope here where he's trying to stay friendly with the trump white house but keep his integrity as a lawyer and a human being and somebody with a reputation. he said, i think in the mueller report quoted as saying he doesn't want to start a saturday night massacre, didn't want to be the saturday night massacre robert bork, he has an eye to history. >> he's a witness, has his own opinion about it. if he just says listen, i don't think the president obstructed justice, doesn't mean he didn't, they're asking him his opinion or he's giving his opinion. >> right. >> about the report. and then -- but keeping his integrity because maybe at the end of the day he does think that the president tried to obstruct justice and he just doesn't want to say it, interesting. >> it doesn't matter in a legal sense for sure but it does matter in a public relations sense. >> it matters if the white house is trying to get the attorney to -- >> yeah, but i mean trump understands that there's a battle for public opinion, as renato and i are saying, it doesn't matter legally what don mcgahn's opinion is whether trump obstructed justice, but it matters greatly if you see this picture of mcgahn on tv saying yes, or no he didn't on
instruct. >> what is the reason they're trying to keep him from testifying? >> they're frightened of what he'll say. trump understands that almost nobody in this country has actually read the mueller report and putting don mcgahn on tv or putting mueller on tv, having him testify before congress is going to give a much wider audience to the findings in the mueller report than simply what's printed on the page. and that is going to be devastating, potentially, for trump and the court of public opinion. he's very concerned about that. >> has the president, has the white house, julia, learned anything from the last two years? >> no. i mean, i think it's a little bit like your opening that, you know, create confusion, throw weird ideas out there, get people talking about side issues so that we're not confronting not simply volume two, which is the obstruction of justice issue, but we barely talk about mueller volume one, at the core
of the russia interactions with the trump campaign and now we're seeing sort of a focus on it with don jr. and the subpoena to get him to talk about what was going on with the russians. so i don't -- i think that they think that this is working and i think elections matter in that sense whether it is working, and i also think it just shows that they don't care. i mean, i think this giuliani story about the ukraine is -- even if -- there's no embarrassment, no shame, no sorry we did that. this is legitimate behavior. >> julia, he says it doesn't matter because the election is a year and a half away. i mean, come on. >> yeah, well, yeah, exactly, right, yeah, and this is about the time that the russians started to make some noise too. but it is -- you know, they -- i think, you know, the lack of shame, i think, never ceases to amaze me. >> well, a former supreme court justice, the president has always said, listen, we'll take this all the way to the supreme court, right, i'm not going to give over my taxes or do what the democrats say. the former supreme court justice says yeah, you gotta. we'll talk about that next.
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tonight the former top lawyer at the fbi rebuking president trump saying the russia investigation was started for lawful and legitimate reasons. back now with julia kayyem, renato mariotti, and max boot. james baker, top lawyer at the fbi, when the russia investigation started is pushing back on these conspiracy theories by trump and defending the origins of the russia investigation.
watch this. >> there was a point in time relatively recently where i just became sick of all the bs that is said about the origins of the investigation and i just got fed up with it. but i want to talk about the origin of the investigation to reassure the american people that it was done for lawful, legitimate reasons and was apolitical. this case was about russia. we've written about this. it was about russia. period full stop. >> so what does it say that he felt compelled to speak out? >> it's essential that he does because there's narrative out there that somehow this whole thing started because, you know, the fbi had it out for donald trump. and so what we have to remember is, as baker says, is it started because of concerns about what the russians were doing to influence the election and no one believed at that moment that the trump campaign would work with the russians, you can fill
in the verb, or accept what the russians had, or, you know, ask wikileaks to release emails, so the trump part of it came later. it was the concern for our elections, for our democracy, for our constitutional system that the trump campaign was willing to dance with the russians was of no concern to the fbi until they started actually investigating. >> max, i want to get your view on this, when you consider barr's testimony and how he made the president out to be a victim. it's a stunning review of barr and the president. >> what jim baker is saying echoes what you heard comey saying on this network. it's what other veterans of the fbi have been saying. i am glad to hear him, you know, telling the truth. because trump has been engaged in this horrific smear of the fbi in order to undermine his accusers and to claim he's the victim of some kind of crazy
deep state conspiracy, which is obviously this fantasy but one that he has fed to a lot of his supporters. and unfortunately he's done it pretty effectively. when comey or baker or thers speak out trump's supporters are not going to believe them because trump has told them these guys are part of the conspiracy, you can't believe what they're saying. it's been actually dismayingly effective on trump's part to inoculate himself against the truth these dedicated servants are revealing. >> he will say it's the liberals, democrats and they'll say -- >> when are facts going to stop trump? >> never. >> he's calling the mueller investigation 13 angry democrats when bob mueller is a lifelong republican who was appointed by republican presidents. >> but you know people believe that stuff. >> yeah. >> that was close. renato -- >> you got it right the first time. >> whoo! that was close. so -- did you hear that?
i almost said it. renato, it's so sad because people -- oh, my gosh, it's crazy. there is an alternative universe out there. then there's this -- the house ways and means chairman richard neal issuing subpoenas for the president's tax returns, this is from richard neal's letter. compliance is not discretionary under any circumstance even if the taxpayer is under audit. so this fight is clearly intensifying. setting the ground work for a big court battle. yeah? >> yeah. >> no question about that. this is going to get litigated. i have to say that congressman neal, chairman neal is correct based on the law. the statute is clearly -- it really -- there's no discretion there, it's pretty mandatory. i will say this i do think that
neal is taking the wrong tack in the way he's trying to obtain the returns. i think it would be better if he took the rationale that he needed to take a look at the returns, congress needs to take a look at the returns to see if there's conflicts of interest. we learned this last week from the "new york times" that even if donald trump was a private citizen they might want to take a look at those tax returns to see if he's paying his taxes. but in any event i'm not sure they're using the right rationale. >> quick last word from the supreme court justice john paul stephens now telling "the wall street journal" i think -- i think there are things we should be concerned about. there's no doubt about that. the president is exercising powers that not only belong to him -- that don't really belong to him, excuse me. i mean, he has to comply with the subpoenas and things like that. so that's pretty direct. he's got to comply with subpoenas. >> one of the benefits of being a former supreme court justice is you get to say what you want. stephens is 99 this year. and i think what's more important here is this sense from, i think, you know, elders, right, so you see people who had been prosecutors, like that memo
that came out this week, former republicans who come out that this is not your typical, you know, democrat versus republican, you know, bush v -- it's not even bush v gore, there's something substantially different in terms of the donald trump and his team's approach to rule of law and to oversight. they are making it difficult. we know that. they do not want -- the approach since the mueller report has come out is fight everything, that says something to me not just legally but also politically. they do not want anymore conversations about this. and yet they'll lose. i mean, i think the longer this extends the longer you and i are talking about the report and mueller and the russians and everything else. so -- >> well, i think -- >> a year and a half more. >> the approach has been the
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the president's attorney rudy giuliani is heading to ukraine in an effort to dig up dirt on democratic presidential candidate joe biden. he said so himself telling cnn he is hoping to pressure the ukraine government to open an investigation into biden. so i'm going to bring in ryan lizza and steve hall. steve, you're shaking your head in the introduction. why are you shaking your head? it's unbelievable, right, maybe he'll find the investigators, the same ones trying to figure out where barack obama's african birth certificate was. >> it's like the crazy train
rolling into town. first of all, let me you know give credit where credit is due. the ukrainians and the ukrainian government are in a difficult position. they live in the shadow of the russian bear, there's a war going on in the eastern part of the country which is instigated and continues to be run by russia. i have respect for the ukrainians. they're a brand new democracy. i could get up tomorrow morning and find someone in ukraine who will sign, seal and deliver something and say the earth is flat and they'll do that for you. giuliani is going on a fool's errand. he'll find people who tell him
what he wants to hear. >> but that doesn't mean it's true. >> absolutely not. there's a whole setup by which the american embassy and others in the ukraine are set up to find what they need to. >> giuliani said we're meddling in an investigation, which we have the right to do. what do you think? >> i think this is -- i mean, there's been so much news this week, and i know it's hard to stay, you know, sort of surprised and outraged by a lot of the outrageous stuff that happens in politics right now, and especially this administration but this is a new one. this is a new low, pressuring -- i mean, ukraine is not exactly a client state but it is a country that's dependent on the u.s. and the west for protection against its hostile neighbor. and the idea that the president's lawyer is going to
go over there and pressure this country that is dependent on arms and influence of the united states for dirt on a former vice president is just scandalous. and, look, this is what happens when nobody in the president's own party will speak up and hold him accountable for anything. he and his allies will keep pushing the envelope because nobody on the republican side wants to speak out and that's the only way really to hold trump accountable, frankly, because so much of what the media and democrats say is not listened to by his people. and look, i mean, i'm trying to think of an historical example that's anything close to this. imagine bill clinton in 1991 -- oh, excuse me, imagine someone trying -- the back story here, excuse me, don, the back story you have to understand here is joe biden, his portfolio when he was vice president was ukraine. he was engaged in complicated diplomacy in ukraines and pissed a lot of people there. there are some who don't like him because they don't like
policies of the obama era and they're dependent on having a good relationship with trump right now. so for giuliani to leverage those two things is really, really despicable. think about what our allies around the world are thinking about this. this is how the united states is going to conduct foreign policy now, the president's lawyer is going to go as a personal -- >> yes, that's what they're saying. the president told politico it would be appropriate. is that the end game, leveraging a politicized doj against the democratic front runner, which is basically what ryan just said, is that the strategy now, is that what we're doing? >> you know, it certainly sounds like it to me because it doesn't sound like this is any serious endeavor on the part of really anyone going to the ukraine to get to the bottom of this. if you want to investigate biden and his son or investigate how
the manafort thing started you don't start in kiev or ukraine. by the way the russians have a really significant, you know, presence there. it's mostly clandestine but you can be sure there's going to be russian spies on the ground watching what giuliani is up to and perhaps trying to get in front of him to get a certain line as well. there's so many -- this is fraught with so many bad endings it's going to be fascinating. but not in a good way to see how it shakes out. >> steve, ryan, thank you. chicago cubs banning a fan who flashed a white power sign behind a black sportscaster. why racists feel emboldened to spew hate in the open now, that's next. ♪ goin' down the only road i've ever known ♪ ♪ like a drifter i was-- ♪ born to walk alone!
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okay, so on tuesday in chicago dug glanville reporter for nbc sports had this happen right behind him when he was reporting live at the cubs game. >> the offense has been hot here lately. >> well, it has, especially when you think back and look back. >> okay, so if you look at that, that is a white nationalist sign. and that fan is now banned from any future cubs game. that hand gesture what used to mean okay started as a joke by internet trolls on a messaging board but it was quickly adopted by white nationalists, and now that symbol has gone from the internet to our tv screens. i talked about the threat of racist violence and how racism is coming out in the open in our politics and it's happening now in sports too. major league baseball is investigating racist instagram
messages received by carl edwards jr. he was banned for telling russell west brook to get down on your knees like you used to. you can see west brook responding to that fan in the video here, he was fined for using profanity. the man denied saying anything inappropriate and this wasn't the first time west brook was taunted by fans. in 2018 west brook was called a boy by a white spectator when he was dancing by the bench during warmups. ♪ >> 2017, adam jones, a center fielder for the baltimore orioles was called the "n" word multiple times and a bag of peanuts was thrown at him during a game. celtics banned a spectator who
was a minor for two years after he called golden state warriors players demarcus cousins the "n" word, cousins says he's been called the "n" word multiple times and explains why athletes need to react. >> i've been called -- >> is that right? >> it's crazy because i -- it's happened to me on a few occasions. it's a line that shouldn't be crossed. at the end of the day our heartbeat the same way yours does, we bleed the same way you bleed. our emotions are the same as yours. if you were walking on the street and somebody say something crazy to you, you're going to react. so just because it's a basketball event doesn't mean those emotions go out the door or us being a human being goes out the door. like it's the same thing. >> racism in sports isn't a new phenomenon. but you've got to ask, what makes people think they can
flash a sign for white nationalism live on tv in 2019? could it be that people like that person are emboldened or encouraged by someone in the white house who race baits and dog whistles and refuses to acknowledge white supremacist violence or acknowledge that it's on the rise? that's all the evidence shows. let's discuss now. what's going on here, keith? good evening to both of you. people do that, it's 2019. >> yeah, you're right because this has been going on for decades, long before donald trump became president. donald trump did not invent racism. but what he has done is by giving winks and nods and dog whistles he has encouraged and emboldened racists to come out of the woodwork and engage in behavior that was unacceptable before.
you have people flashing white nationalist signs. when the president of the united states is out there saying get that son of a -- can i say the word? son of a bitch off the field, referring to black nfl players, what do you think his followers are going to say? one thing they should be aware of is the president of the united states has secret service protection. those other white racists don't have protection. they better make sure if they get their asses whooped. >> the cubs have every right, just as all the teams do, to eject a fan, not only for violence, like throwing things on the field. but for saying things. with the cubs, too, this is where the disparity is in baseball and in sports. ad son russell, their second baseman, has just come off a 40-day suspension for domestic violence. you can make the case, they're both bad, but domestic violence and assault on his wife, and the
cubs said we have zero tolerance for one. >> they should deal they have every night to throw that guy out. >> that's not what the conversation is about. the conversation is about someone doing racist things. if an incident had happened with domestic violence, we would discuss that. >> it's overlapping. it's the same day, russell coming back. >> we'll have this conversation and we'll have the other conversation another time. do you think the president is contributing to this atmosphere? this environment where people feel emboldened. he didn't invent racism. but he doesn't emphatically say, i don't want the support of the nationalists.
he tiptoes around it. >> here we go with charlottesville. i criticized his comments on your show, on chris' show. >> how has he gone after them? >> the day after he did that. >> did he sponsor legislation? >> no. >> we're not going to reinvent history. that's not going to happen now. >> you're talking about a prompter speech and he went off the prompter in tough tower. >> he's not responsible. >> we just said he's not responsible for it. is it because of him then -- >> is he only contributing to the environment that makes people think it is okay to do these things? >> i think it is on both sides right now.
>> you can't put everything into a neat, little box. >> yes, you can. having a conversation about nick ties, don't bring up pickles. we're talking about white supremacists. the is the president contributing to an environment that emboldens people like that guy, to give a racist symbol on television. to call people the "n" word? >> no. that guy is a loser. that guy did something enormously stupid. and that guy is paying the price. >> how long have you known donald trump? justice a while. >> i don't know if donald trump is a racist. but i know he has behaved as one as long as he has been in public life. >> what do you mean you don't know? >> i think he's a racist. but for a guy who lived in
new york city, who grew up in new york city, around people of different colors and grounds and ethnicities, you would think he would have more sensitivity. >> keith? keith, keith. someone called me the "n" word and the "f" word, someone called me nigger faggot and i had to talk to nypd to talk about being assaulted in central park. living in new york city doesn't make you immune to being a racist. >> i've seen anti-semitism and sexists in new york city. but donald trump has been accustomed to different backgrounds and races and genders and orientations. but regardless of his true motivation, he's behaving this way because it gins up his base. i don't know what is worse, to
be a racist or to do that to gin up your base. but donald trump is contributing to the atmosphere. rob, the reason i asked how long you have known him, you probably have never experienced this. this is a guy who spent five years lying about obama's birth certificate. >> you know i call people out if they spew propaganda and they are not honest. there's more incidents of it. and you know when it's happening? just over the last two years. the only thing that is different in the last two years, is donald trump. >> okay. >> just the last two days. how about the speech when the guy was talking about shooting immigrants? >> let him finish. >> we came off an election where this country was divided for a million reasons. >> not this divided. >> it was. >> i walked out of the hotel and
there were protests. not my president. >> we're going to make him a one-term president. what's the difference? >> what do you mean? >> that's what mitch mcconnell said about barack obama. >> that's about politics. >> that night, i mean, seriously. it's not -- i think we had a good conversation where it didn't start with donald trump. >> we didn't say it did. >> i've got to go. >> this country is divided. >> just take my word. >> donald trump is making it worse. that's what i'm saying. >> i'm fearful. >> i think rob knows it. >> conspiracy theories. i have to go. just take my word for it, people. it's happening more. we'll be right back. even our pets know to go directly to petmeds.com
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