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good morning, 10:00 a.m. eastern. i'm poppy harlow in new york. the big question this morning, when will that memo drop and will the fbi chief quit and what impact will it all have on the intelligence community and the russia probe? there is a lot going on as you can tell. this morning, top law enforcement officials are warning against the release of the memo, which alleges fbi surveillance abuses, but instead of listening to those concerns from his fbi chief, the head of the doj, acting in the russia investigation, the president is attacking those leaders. here's what he writes. the top leadership and investigators of the fbi and the justice department have politicized the sacred investigative process in favor of democrats against republicans, something which would have been unthinkable a short time ago. rank and file are great people. let's go to the white house, that's where we find our kaitlan collins. it is pretty much a foregoe conclusion this is going to be released. the question is just when. and there is still a lot of
unknowns about this memo. will there be any redactions? has anything been changed? but the fbi still very concerned. >> reporter: yeah, that's right, poppy. there are a lot of unknowns about the details of this memo, when it is going to be released finally, the redactions as well. but the larger question is what will the repercussions be once this memo is out there and publicly available. and the president with that tweet that you just read really gave us more insight into what he's thinking, his reasoning behind okaying the release of this memo, which we're told by the white house he's totally on board with, and the president going after the leadership there, saying they have become politicized and we should really point out that all the leadership at the fbi and the doj are people who were picked by the president, and are also life-long republicans. and back when the president fired james comey last may, the white house initially hung their reasoning on rod rosenstein's point that james comey had mishandled the investigation into hillary clinton's use of a private e-mail server, but back to this, the repercussions, what
will this actually come out to be? will rod rosenstein be fired as a result of this memo, because the reporting shows this memo points a finger at him saying he was the one that signed off on the extension of the surveillance of that former trump aide, carter page, and will it result in the loss of another fbi director just in the second year of the trump presidency, because chris wray has been there since august, when he was sworn in. those are the big questions we're waiting on today. we are expecting this memo as of this point, poppy, to be released today. >> okay, kaitlan collins at the white house, thank you for that reporting. we do know that the fbi still has grave concerns over the release of this gop memo. shimon prokupecz from our justice team is following all of that from washington. what are we hearing from those closest to the decisionmakers at the fbi on this one? >> reporter: well, nothing has changed, poppy, certainly by the decisionmakers. and really goes all the way to the top, that's christopher wray. his position on this has not changed, and doesn't appear
likely to change. they like the rest of us are waiting to see what happens. the fbi does not anticipate getting any heads up on when is going to be released. so they will probably learn about it the way we all learn and that's when it is published and put out. just a little context here, in terms of the president's tweet, i think, thinking about this, i think it is important to note, what he's referring to here and when he slams the fbi and the doj leaders, i think it goes to rod rosenstein, who as we know, took over this russia investigation for the department of justice, and as it has been reported approved the fisas that we believe the memo will likely refer to. so this issue that the president, his tweet and his issues with what the fbi was doing holds central, goes centrally to rod rosenstein, to deputy attorney general who really is overseeing this russia investigation, bob mueller the special counsel reports to him. so it would appear, at least for
now, when the president is talking about these doj leaders, that's who he's talking about. but i guess we have to wait and see exactly once the memo is published. >> you bring up an important chain of command there, rod rosenstein is the only person who can fire bob mueller, by the way. shimon, before we go, great reporting out of our team in d.c., dana bash, et cetera, that the white house itself is actually worried that christopher wray, the head of the fbi might quit, if this memo is released. what you to know about his mind set right now? >> reporter: talking to people who have been in meetings with him, who have seen him in the hallways of the seventh floor at the fbi, certainly there is no indication from him or his staff that he plans to go anywhere. he has made his feelings known about this. we know that statement that the fbi published directed by him, they went ahead and published it, they wrote it. that was a pretty big deal for them. they went ahead and did it. then last night, also, continued support for the fbi, including the former fbi director james
comey, so all of this continues. there is full support here from many people towards the fbi. >> shimon, we appreciate the reporting in d.c., thank you, my friend. let's dig into all of this. with me is sam baiul, former federal prosecutor, professor at law at duke university, bobby ciccone and tom dupre at the justice department. we have it all covered, the legal side, the fbi, the doj. gentlemen, this morning, tom, let me begin with you, you were at doj, what do you make of the president's tweet this morning, a clear attack on what looks to be wray and rosenstein, saying they politicized this investigation to help democrats and republicans and these are two republicans appointed by the president. >> poppy, i agree with that. i think the president's tweet this morning was extraordinary, to be sure it is consistent with similar tweets he's sent before. i think you put your finger on it, that from my perspective what is extraordinary about this, he's going after his own people. the president installed chris wray as the director of the fbi
precisely because he trusted the judgment and discretion of christopher wray, and so in a situation like this, where your handpicked fbi director comes to you and says i have grave concerns about this memo, it seems to me fairly remarkable and frankly a slap in the face to chris wray for the president to disregard that and order the release of the memo, with apparently -- without assuaging the concerns of his law enforcement officials. >> bobby, you tweeted something interesting that caught my attention this morning as well. what happened to the fbi, dedicated my life to, please, i know you don't know much about our organization, director wray, but take the high road and keep quiet. what do you mean? >> i don't think that it serves the fbi's mission to get dragged into a public debate about this memo. i think that this is a political memo c m memo. the conclusions drawn in are a person's opinion or a group of
persons' opinions. to go into this that could -- >> are you saying he shouldn't have gone to the white house to plead with kelly on monday like he did about not releasing the memo? >> that's the route to take. the statement that the fbi put out to me was a little puzzling because he did not in there mention sources and methods or impacting negatively an ongoing investigation, which are the two avenues that i think the fbi should stand against if that memo does impact those. it actually mentioned the conclusions drawn would be inaccurate. that's not the fbi's place to judge. i think that if they have concerns that there are sources and methods that would be compromised or if it would negatively impact an ongoing investigation, those are legitimate concerns, but the fbi statement earlier this week did not mention those. and i wish they would have. >> got it. you mean don't go at it as far as putting this statement out, et cetera, keep it within the confines of the agency and the white house. hold on, let me get the professor in here. to you, legally speaking, there
is no recourse, is there? is there any legal recourse for the departments if this memo is released? >> i don't think so. the house is doing something that is completely unprecedented. but at least technically following their rules, they did get white house signoff. so i actually think, you know, the bureau and the justice department are probably just going to have to live with what happens here and the question becomes if this thing is entirely misleading as we have been told, are there any avenues to try to complete the record to get the other facts out there, that may clear that what i think is overwhelmingly likely, which is that nothing improper was done here. we have a fisa warrant that went all the way to the level of the deputy attorney general. deputy attorney general who is appointed by this president, who is as by the book kind of doj career guy as anybody ever met. it is incredibly implausible that rod rosenstein signed off on a flagrantly bad warrant application.
i'm quite sure that didn't happen, but the memo is going to suggest it did. and the questions are the other facts going to come out that shows that's not the case? and, you know -- yeah, go ahead. >> i was going to say, looks like the democratic, you know, the democrats' memo, the counterargument will come out, just a question of when. because they're going through a bunch of checks as well. but to you, bobby, as a retired fbi special agent, what i wonder this morning is if this memo is released, regardless of the warnings of the head of the fbi, do you think this has an impact and an important impact on the trust between the president and the fbi and issues totally unrelated to this? i mean national security issues. i mean terrorism cases, et cetera. what does this do to that going forward? >> well, you know, i hope it has no impact. the fbi is traditionally our mission has been carried out without prejudice, with these things. we usually are able to take the high road and move on and carry out our mission without allowing these types of things to kind of -- you know, that's why i
implore director wray to stay quiet and keep plodding on. these are serious allegations being made. and there are, you know, the president in his tweet this morning talked about sacred institutions, or sacred processes, well, there are also sacred processes to address the concerns that are supposedly laid out in this memo and they're not to make a public memo about it. we have the oig process. we we have the opr process. we have ways to address if you think fbi personnel acted improperly. there are long-standing traditions and processes. in fact, the oig is doing that just now with maybe possible fbi personnel how they carried out the hillary clinton investigation. so we need to let those processes play out. >> tom, you -- yes, of course, then i'll go to tom. >> so, my great friend bobby ciccone with whom i've been in the trenches, enormous respect for him, but i have to say, this
goes to a higher level. this isn't ordinary procedure. christopher wray has to realize we're at an existential point with the respect with federal law enforcement. i agree he should not resign over the release of this memo. if the memo is used as a pretext to remove rod rosenstein and put in place somebody who has the capacity to shut down robert mueller's investigation, then i think christopher wray has to consider resigning over that. because that is an existential threat to the integrity of an fbi investigation that must be protected. and at some point he's one of the two or three most senior people in law enforcement in the federal government in this country and he's only got one bullet to fire, he's got to be willing to fire it at a certain point. >> tom, to you, i mean, you were at the department of justice, you were in one of these top roles. does rosenstein survive this? >> i really hope he does, poppy. in my opinion, rod is a man of integrity. i think he is nonpartisan and i think he's operating in the highest traditions the department of justice. i hope he stays on.
that said, i got to say, he's certainly in the cross hairs right now and i think what we see unfold in the next 48 or 72 hours is going to be very telling. in my view, i think the white house would be best advised to follow what the president established as legal strategy of cooperation with the mueller investigators in hopes of bringing this to a quick resolution. if the president is right, that there is no collusion, let's let bob mueller reach that conclusion and vindicate the president, rather than try to use this memo as a way to tarnish the investigation itself. >> you know, we have seen other folks in the cross hairs who survived, like jeff sessions, rosenstein's boss. so we'll see what happens. gentlemen, have a great weekend, thank you, all. president trump set to approve the release of this republican memo by all our reporting. the question is really when. my next guest says if it is released, the department of justice and the fbi should take legal action. she should know, she's a lawyer and a member of congress. we'll ask her what that would be, though, ahead. and the breaking news in the
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it is misleading by the fbi, severe omissions that may impact on its credibility and truth, and i believe it is done purposefully to discredit as has been reported law enforcement. and i think that's tragic. >> let me ask you about that then. and i want to get your response on the democratic memo in a moment. but you said something really interesting, because not only are you a member of congress, you're an attorney, a lawyer as well. you said that if this memo is released, think the doj and the fbi should take legal action against the white house. all the other lawyers have asked about that, don't know if what sort of legal recourse there could be here. what do you see? >> no, my point was that if director wray felt so strongly about the overall impact of the nunes memo, written in such a short order, as it has been by staff, with the influence of republican members and no input
by democratic members and the intelligence committee should not be partisan, it should be nonpartisan, i indicated that the department of justice, the fbi should seek to enjoin the release of that document. i believe it should be heard in court because of the severity of the ultimate impact and it is tragic it would come to that because the fbi and the doj are part of the executive. they are part of the president's cabinet and should be working closely to protect the american people. now we have a schism, a crisis, that i don't know, poppy, how it will heal as we go forward for the president and the fbi and the doj to work together. and that's an important collaboration. >> congresswoman, here's what your republican counterpart in the house, who we just had on, last hour, here is how he described the memo from the democrats that both of you have read as well. listen to this.
>> from what i understand, the democrat memo is going through the exact same process that the republican one went through. i'm all for it coming out. i do think it is damage control type thing. i think it is damage control. it is kind of barking up a whole different tree that -- so that in itself is not dealing with the issue, the fourth amendment and i think, to me, that's what the issue is all about here, that we have got to get to the bottom line on. >> he says it doesn't deal with the issue of the fourth amendment, it is barking up the wrong tree, it is damage control. what say you? >> poppy, i couldn't hear you clearly, but let me just say i cannot characterize both memos specifically. but what i can say is that all of the characterizations by the fbi, by other members of the intelligence committee, i believe, are accurate. there are major omissions. there are attributions to individuals that are not
correct. and it was a hastily put together document. i believe its only purpose is to give credibility to the false accusations by the president of the united states that the fbi apparatus is biased toward him, and to discredit the mueller investigation. there is no other reason. because, first of all, i think senator thune made a very valid point, why hasn't the senate intelligence committee been allowed minimally the chairman and ranking member to review this memo? why couldn't chairman nunes as a leader of the intelligence committee answer truthfully whether or not he engaged with the white house, whether or not his staff engaged with the white house, whether he had another midnight trip to the white house, and what is the purpose of this memo? there are other members who are involved in this. yes. >> just to be clear, nunes did say when quigley asked him on the committee if he had worked at the white house on this memo, he said, no, but he wouldn't answer when it was asked if his
staff worked with the white house on this memo. 30 seconds left. house speaker paul ryan, leadership, came out and said he is supportive of the democrats' memo coming out. does that give you some encouragement? >> who did you say? >> speaker paul ryan said this morning that he supports the democratic memo coming out. are you encouraged by that? >> well, poppy if that is the case, the democratic memo should come out right now. i think it was an insult to suggest that there had to be another committee vote when the vote of last monday could have also approved the distribution of the democratic memo. but here's my take on this. i don't think any of the memos should be released, frankly, if the fbi feels that this is a challenge to national security. and as a member of the homeland security committee, realizing that we deal with terrorist attacks every single day, potential, excuse me, potential
attacks every single day, and that is the task of the fbi, the doj, member of the judiciary committee, then i frankly believe that we should pause, assess these memos, and to listen to the fbi and other intelligence leaders as to whether or not this has a negative impact on national security. it is not a personal agenda of the president to allow him to defend himself and fight back against the russian investigation by special counselor mueller and we should protect special counselor mueller as well with legislation that i introduced. >> sorry about the trouble hearing us, but i appreciate you sticking with it. thank you so much. >> i apologize as well. >> that's all right. government funding deadline rapidly approaching as in next week, a deal for dreamers looking slimmer. all of this as republicans are facing questions around the russia probe. a live report from the gop retreat next.
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uh huh, sure. still yes! xfinity delivers gig speed to more homes than anyone. now you can get it, too. welcome to the party. any moment, president trump could approve the release of this controversial republican memo, alleging fbi surveillance abuses. republican members of congress are at this retreat in west virginia. and, you know what, they want to talk about a lot of other things, but they're being bombarded with questions about the memo. phil mattingly joins me now from there. it really is overshadowing everything else they want to talk about. >> reporter: yeah, poppy. if you think about what is on the agenda for 2018 for republicans in the near term, you have to fund the government beyond thursday. you have the daca issue sitting out there, which the party certainly doesn't have consensus on now and doesn't look like a deal is in the offing in any
near future. a disaster relief bill that has to be done. all of these issues, not just the 2018 agenda, these are things they need to get done in the next couple of weeks. and yet all of the talk here has been about the memo. members that have come into this conference room from the retreat to meet with reporters to give press conferences to give interviews, it is all about the memo. they want to know about the memo, where they stand on the memo, what the reaction is to the memo. there is frustration about it. they want to talk about that they did at the end of 2017, what they want to do in 2018, and this is also an issue that has been driven internally, by their own members, from kind of the rank and file grassroots, that really got behind this over the course of the last couple of weeks and almost drove this to the front door of leadership. you saw yesterday the speaker paul ryan addressing this issue, saying that things need to be separate, the memo is congressional oversight, this isn't about the fbi, isn't about the deputy attorney general, isn't about the mueller investigation, but you have a lot of republican rank and file members who say that's exactly what this is. i think one of the interesting elements to watch that we have been watching over the last
couple of days is how different members are trying to kind of rectify or reconcile all of these different views here. there is no question about it, inside the house republican conference this has become a huge driving issue and because of that, more or less overtaken everything else when they have some major decisions to make in a short amount of time. >> exactly. like keeping the government open. phil mattingly, thank you. we appreciate it. here to discuss in the debate, cnn political commentators brian falun on the right josh kingston on the right. he previously advised president trump and brian fallon worked with hillary clinton's campaign. let me begin with you, josh kingston. it is a direct attack on christopher wray at the top of the fbi, and rod rosenstein, deputy attorney general at doj. do you agree with the president? >> i have general agreement with him, and i think if we look at
the peter strzok, lisa page, andrew mccabe, andrew weizmans, julie reed, james corals, james rubikis who have showed a real tilt towards one side in this election and a very strong bias against donald trump, in their e-mails and actions have proven this through donations and text messages and attending hillary clinton's victory party, or would be victory party, so, you know, there has been that -- i would say growing suspicion on the house and we see more and more evidence of it and our concern has been that it taints the mueller judgment and the investigation itself, so i think they're legitimate concerns. >> you don't -- you don't think mueller can do his job appropriately? is that what you're saying? because of these people? >> i'm saying it puts a big question on it. i'm not, you know, in a fire mueller camp, let's get rid of him.
but i say these things are very disturbing and if i was a lawyer defending president trump, i would raise them all day long and say, we're very worried about this. >> as i get brian fallon here, let me raise one fact, and that is that we learn very importantly from cnn exclusive reporting this week from our white house and justice team that peter strzok, who did send anti-trump text messages, who also sent anti-clinton, anti-bernie sanders text messages, but a lot of anti-trump text messages, he was one of the key people who decided days before the election to reopen the e-mail investigation into hillary clinton. brian fallon, to you, your counterargument? >> thank you, poppy, for raising that, just going to mention it. this goes to the heart of how crazy the conspiracy theory is that trump supporters are peddling to try to justify the release of this memo. if you think about the 2016 campaign, you had jim comey give that press conference in july, you had that letter being sent ten days out from the election, the e-mail investigation into hillary clinton was thick in the air throughout the entire
campaign. what we did not know, none of the voters knew, is that donald trump was being investigated for counterintelligence investigation related to russia. none of that was talked about or ever disclosed publicly during the campaign. so to suggest now a year later that somehow the fbi was in cahoots with the clinton campaign to try to hurt donald trump, it just defies credulity. think of the implications now of the conspiracy theory. donald trump's tweet this morning -- do you really believe christopher wray, donald trump's handpicked fbi director, he could have picked anybody in the world he wanted for that position, he got -- he picked christopher wray, do you now think christopher wray is part of some deep state conspiracy theory? rod rosenstein, donald trump could have picked anybody in the world to be number two at the justice department, he picked rod rosenstein. rod rosenstein reauthorized the surveillance -- is he part of
the deep state cabal too? >> is a natural tension between the executive branch and elective branch. i spent 22 years in the legislative branch fighting with the executive branch on the national parks service -- >> this is all within the executive branch. >> wait a second. >> congressman, this is the executive branch against the executive branch and two people that the president appointed. >> no, it is not. it started when the -- >> yes, it is. >> it started when the fbi ignored subpoenas from the house intelligence committee trying to get this information. and they have not been cooperative, ask bob goodlatte, ask trey gowdy, ask devin nunes, even adam schiff, he will say the fbi was not responsive, neither has the doj been, in terms of giving information to these committees which are charged with finding this information out. so i -- i think the other thing is with he know people like james comey, they're very
political. i don't think christopher wray is, he's a fellow georgian. i'm not saying his head should be on the scout, but there are some partisans in the fbi and what i'm concerned about and i think brian would be too, did their partisanship abuse the fisa process? we don't know that. but i do know that people on that committee, aside from trey gowdy and devin nunes or matt gates, people like ileana ros-lehtinen, will hurd, peter king, who are not solid trump supporters, who are very critical and very bipartisan of our party, many times they voted to release these memos. they're doing it because they're very worried. >> one more question. brian, that is that just in the last hour or so we have learned that house speaker paul ryan has come out and publicly supported the release of the democratic rebuttal to this. the memo from the democrats on the house intel committee. are you encouraged hearing that? >> not really. because i didn't hear a commitment that he would release the two memos concurrently. that's the democrats' big complaint. they're saying the release the
democrat one eventually after a couple more weeks go by, more extended review, and additional vote by the house of representatives. the whole idea is to get just one memo out, the nunes memo, the republican spin memo, have that set the narrative and have as an after thought the democrat memo come out a few days or couple of weeks later. this goes to show why this thing is not on the up and up. let's take jack's concern at face value. let's let the ig investigate it or put the memos out at the same time. the fact they're doing it in this way proves it is a partisan exercise. >> appreciate your time, gentlemen. we'll have you beth back, have a great weekend, thanks so much. wait until you see this, a father's fury at disgraced former usa gymnastics dr. larry nassar in court. three of his daughters are survivors of the sexual abuse and he went after him. we're there. [ clock ticking ]
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sentencing for disgraced gymnastics dr. larry nassar. last hour, the father of three of his victims tried to attack him in court. >> i would ask you to, as part of the sentencing, to grant me five minutes in a locked room with this demon. would you do that? >> that is not -- >> yes or no? >> no, sir. >> would you give me one minute? >> you know i can't do that. that's not how -- >> i'm going to have to -- >> jean casarez is following all of the developments outside of the courthouse. jean what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, i can tell you he has not come out. and he was escorted out of the courtroom by sheriff deputies and there is the local jail next to the courthouse here. i've spoken to his attorney and he's talking with officials now. but the rest of his family,
which was his wife and two of his daughters, they actually came out just minutes ago and drove away very quickly in a vehicle. so they have left. but this father is the father of three daughters that were sexually assaulted by larry nassar. two of them spoke this morning here in court, the other one spoke last week in ingham county. i haven't heard of a family that has three daughters. so we'll wait to see what he's charged with, if he can come out if there will be bail if charges are filed. i want to talk to you about last night. one of nassar's defense lawyers did a radio interview with wwj news radio out of detroit, and she talks about that so many young women keep coming forward to speak, she's not sure if she believes all of them. listen. >> there is a huge part of me that does not believe that every one of those girls was victimized by him. >> reporter: so in other words, she went on to say she thinks
larry nassar has done much good in his life, that he's a good man, and she just thinks that too many people are, i would say, opportunistic in this situation. she went on to tell espn that she tempers that by saying i know there was a plea agreement. >> all right, jean casarez, pretty extraordinary developments this morning. our thoughts still on all of those women who are abused by nassar. thank you. ahead, the cdc is warning this year's flu outbreak could be the deadliest ever for children. this is critically important information. stick around for it next. money. well, that seems fair. we didn't use it. wish we got money back on gym memberships. get money back hilarious. with claim-free rewards. switching to allstate is worth it.
hospitals across the country are overcrowded. entire school districts have been forced to close, all because of the brutal flu outbreak this year. we're waiting for another update from the cdc that is coming in just minutes. let's go to our senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. one of the huge concerns for all of us as parents is this is hitting children extremely hard. >> reporter: that's right. it does seem to be hitting children extremely hard. often these are healthy children where you would never think anything would go wrong. it is also hitting adults extremely hard. and these are often young perfectly healthy adults, i visited with a community in portland, they lost a friend, a 36-year-old mother of two, she felt sick, went to the emergency room, and was told to go home. the next day she was put on life support and now her family and friends are left asking how did this happen. a workplace in mourning after the sudden death of one of their own, tandy harman. >> tandy, this is where she
worked. >> yeah, for the last four years. amazing gal. we're going to miss her. >> reporter: her death shows just how much we still don't know about the flu. and how much it is hurting us this year. the worst flu season in years. tents set up for extra patients. schools closed across the country. tandy was young, just 36, and healthy. >> she posted on facebook, dang, caught the flu, you know, that darn flu. >> reporter: tandy's boyfriend says when her chest started hurting, she went to the emergency room where she was diagnosed with the flu and sent home. she got worse and went back just hours later. do you remember the last thing tandy said to you? >> i'm scared. i don't know what's going on. i'm scared. in between all of the breaths, she got that out. >> reporter: tandy died leaving her family mystified, why didn't doctors keep her in the hospital the first time? she's not the only one. 6-year-old emily muth died in
north carolina hours after a paramedic said she could stay home. >> who is to blame? do you blame god? do you blame the world? do you blame the doctors? >> flu is sneaky. it is devilish. >> reporter: dr. william schaffner says when it comes to the flu there is no crystal ball. >> we have thousands upon thousands of patients who come in, evaluated, sent home, and do wonderfully well. and trying to pick out who among them is going to take a turn for the worse is something that we can't do. it's a gap in our knowledge. >> reporter: but could medicine be doing more? >> we need better diagnostic tests so we can predict who is going to have a bad result. >> reporter: one of the ways flu kills the young and healthy is by turning their own immune systems against them. some researchers have been trying to stop that response and they had some success with animal studies. >> there has to be something more that they can do. the flu is not going to go away. >> reporter: now tandy's boss
has lost a friend and waitress, her boyfriend, the woman he loved, and tandy's two children, their mother, all because medicine wasn't advanced enough to save her. along with concerns about flu this season, there have also been some concerns about tamiflu, a drug used to treat flu. i'll read from the label, it says patients with influenza including those receiving tamiflu particularly pediatric patients may be at an increased risk of confusion or normal behavior early in their illness. monitor for signs for abnormal behavior. the bottom line is if you're diagnosed with the flu and given tamiflu, talk to your doctor about the risks and benefits. poppy? >> all right, elizabeth cohen, thank you for doing this reporting, being so on top of all of it. let us know what the cdc says in moments. turning to kick off in minnesota, the super bowl, big game this weekend, have you heard? tom brady's top target on the field is ready to go. why the patriots chances to win it all in minnesota got a whole lot better, so says john berman.
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if i'm going to talk about how cold it is, i better be able to really convey just how chilly it is. right now, it is about negative 7 degrees. but a good thing is, it feels like negative 4. so downright balmy out here. the game day, they're thinking it might be three degrees outside, even though the players will play indoors. that would dominate the previous coldest super bowl ever, which was 16 back in detroit. now, we have to talk about rob gronkowski. this guy, patriots fans, are signing a big relief today, yesterday, announced he was cleared from the nfl's mandated concussion protocol after that big hit he took in the afc championship game. but now, yesterday, tom brady's number one target says he is back. listen to this. >> everything is going good. just looking forward to the big game now. i'm ready to roll. and that's all i'm looking forward to. i'm in the super bowl. i'm good. i'm ready. >> reporter: all right. also, yesterday, the super bowl
halftime show press conference where music icon justin timberlake took the stage, poked and prodded about what he may perform, who he may perform with, he was tight lipped but he did not hold back on his apparent bromance with quarterback tom brady. listen. >> he has great hair, though. i mean, great hair. tom's definite lit type of dude you invite over to watch the super bowl with you, the problem is he's always in the super bowl. i actually texted tom before the conference championship game and i said, i'm going to the super bowl. are you coming to the super bowl? >> reporter: i have to admit, i agree with justin. tom brady does have great hair. it is almost time for our kickoff in minnesota, a cnn bleacher report special, where two-time super bowl champion hines ward and i will join dave briggs, breaking down the intriguing story lines surrounding the big game, that's
tomorrow at 2:30 eastern on cnn. i went to the local pub and you were right, they were awesome. >> i love them. how is my hometown treating you? everythi everyone being minnesota nice? >> reporter: everyone is so nice here in minnesota. i'm falling in love with the culture here. super bowl lii! the people here are great, poppy. we miss you. >> bye, coy. have fun. thank you all for joining us. i'm poppy harlow. "at this hour" begins right now. hi there. i'm brianna keilar in for kate bolduan. on this february 2nd, the groundhog could be overshadowed by a document that few people have read, but everyone seems to have an opinion about. today, president trump is expected to ignore the warnings of his fbi chief and justice department officials and green light the release of a classified and partisan memo alleging fbi surveillance abuses. the memo was written by the gop head