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death. today's action is focused on restricting the regime's access to american debt and. he may no longer take advantage of the financial system the wholesale looting of the ve venezuelan economy. it is to pay off political and regime supporters and increase pressure on the regime to abonn don its disasterous path. under the executive order u.s. persons are prohibited from engaging in specified dealings involving the government of venezuela and instrument
mentalities. in an effort to minute muimize undue harm to american and venezuelan people and global markets we are permitting tra transactions that would be prohibited. they include a 30 day wind dound period, the financing for humanitarian goods to venezuela and debt instruments that trade on secondary markets and certain deals owned or involved by the government of venezuela. this builds on a number of action taken fwi u.s. government to prevent to flow of funds to the regime. on my first day in office i was here with you where the treasury
department designated and this year alone we have sanctioned 30 venezuelan officials including moduro himself. we have ordered them to distance themselves from the violence and the dictatorship. today's actions is the next step towards freedom for the venezuelan people. >> i would be happy to take some questions. >> reporter: [ inaudible question ] >> so there will be a license
that we know are held by u.s. entities. we want to make sure u.s. pensions or u.s. fe douciduciare not hurt by this. this will limit any new investments. >> reporter: [ inaudible question [ inaudible question ] can you talk about potential concerns about the impact it could have on the economic crisis that's already in place? >> i'll let the general comment first and i'll comment on that you know the venezuelan people are suffering more and more as they see democracy distinguished
the president says what are the range of options we could see certainly with our partners in the region. >> i would say it has to turn up the heat ton venezuelan government. these specific actions we have tried to balance so we have made sure they are still allowed and made sure certain u.s. entities can continue to trade. it will have an impact. >> reporter: this is a pretty strongly worded statement. you described maduro who
disregards the rule of law and things like that. i'll ask you again because i asked you this last time you guys were up here on the subject, how is what's happening with venezuela any different from the situation with dictators in turkey, in the philippines and in russia that also routinely ignore democratic norms and yet president trump can't seem to bring themselves to criticize them. why is this worse than all of the other dictators? >> we have taken very significant actions. we'll look at these and right now we are dealing with a terrible situation in venezuela. that's what we are here to address. >> reporter: [ inaudible question ] the president said he wants to attach va reform to the debt ceiling. i'm curious whether you feel
you're on the same page as that front. >> let me assure you we are completely on the same page. we are speaking on a regular basis. what the president said was that his strong preference had been when they passed the va bill that they attached the debt ceiling to that so we wouldn't be dealing with this in september. what i have said before, my strong preference is we have a clean debt ceiling but the most important is the debt ceiling will be raised in september. i have had discussions with leaders in both parties in the house and senate and we are all
on the same page. the government intends to pay its debts and the debt ceiling will be raised. >> when the vice president was in the region almost every nation he went to expressed reservations about u.s. military involvement in venezuela. will it be enough to from taking
any military action and if it i situation in venezuela? >> he had a very successful trip through latin america. i don't think there's ever been a time where we are better aligned with our partners. >> in terms of military options there is no such thing as a diplomatic option or an economic option. we try to int gait all elements together. in terms of contingency planning and trying to invision, what might trigger us bringing to the president options. obviously any decision would be in conjunction with our partners in the region.
none are anticipated in the near future. what the president asked us to
do, he said look how it could evolve and provide integrated options for the president. >> reporter: [ inaudible question ] >> i think we considered everything and we'll continue to monitor this situation. >> thank you mr. secretary. one gets the immigration from the sanctions and what you have said about the regime that the united states would only restore
the normal situation if maduro and his indicted vice president are gone. is that safe to say that the u.s. would only deal with the regime that does not include either of them? >> i am not going to comment on the hypothetical of that. i think what the president is clear on is the existing situation is unacceptable. this is about restoring the democratic process and rule of law. >> reporter: [ inaudible question ] >> there will be no including extending maturities without
specific licenses being issued. >> you sound completely confident the debt ceiling will be raised in september in. >> yes. i am confident. i think there is no scenario where the government won't be paying its bills. >> reporter: what did the president mean when he said now it's a mess. he said it could have been easier. knew mess. what did he mean? >> i think that's lot to do in september. we have the debt ceiling. we have a budget. congress has a lot of work this month. i think the president and i wish they had raised the debt ceiling before they left we are where we are and we'll get it done. >> if you could help us all understand what the president meant on monday night when he said we are looking for an
honorable and enduring outcome what he meant. he said that he won't do so. he believes that the administration must do better confronting hate groups. do you associate yourself with those remarks and did you feel the same pressure he felt to resign? >> i think you know i put out an extensive statement earlier last week i think there's no question he was not equating the hate groups with people who were peacefully and under no circumstances was i going to resign. gary and i have known each other for 20 years. i am speaking to him every day. his number one focus is absolutely working on tax reform with me and getting tax reform
done. gary is committed to be here and i couldn't be more excited about that. >> the president gave us very clear guidance that we worked on over the period of several months across the national security team. that was to prioritize safety and security of the american people. that's what our efforts are prioritizing now. the second thing is he said he wanted us to have a sound regional strategy, not a strategy that lasts a year. we have had 16 one-year strategies in afghanistan. it gives us the greatest chance largely in support of the afghan government and their long struggle against groups and the
taliban and to integrate it with what we hope to achieve diplomatically. i think it was clear to anyone that the approach of let's talk with the taliban and tell them we are leaving, how would that ever work especially when they were making battlefield gains associated in large measure with our disengagement in support of the afghan forces. and so it is a fundamental shift in the strategy. those who said that are absolutely wrong about that. just think about that. conditions based versus time based. we tried very hard to disconduct t -- disconnect the dots. the president has also asked us, how can others do more? how can others share more of the burden and respoens blt?
so this strategy delivers on all of that. the answer is the american people are safe and secure from strifts who could gain a safe haven to organize, plan, finance and conduct a tax not only in that region but globally. we know that's their design. we know that from our history and from the intelligence. >> reporter: following on that, given the history and idealology of the taliban are you confident a political settlement could ever be reached with the. [ inaudible question ]
>> well know. various groups who will cease their hostility to the afghan government would then recognize that and participate in the future of afghanistan that is acceptable to the afghan people. you know, the afghan people remember, they remember 1996 to 2001 pretty vividly and what it was like to live under that brutal regime. the taliban, we work hard to disconnect the dots here especially their relationship with other terrorist organizations. we also recognize none of these groups were monolific either. if there are those who are ready to join a political process like they did over the past year then i don't think the afghan government would object to that
in anyw way. if you're enemies are fighting aggressively against you it is not a good option to say you're not going to fight them anymore and then just hope for an outcome that secures the interest of the american people. >> reporter: [ inaudible question ] >> could you describe winning in afghanistan? >> winning in afghanistan is aimed at allowing afghanistan to be afghanistan, not to create a state in u.s. image. winning in afghanistan means there are not terrorist groups who are able to control key parts and population centers there that could be used to mobilize resources, raise funds, use funds to conduct a tax
against us and our allies and partners. so that's what the success is it ensures the safety and security of the american people. as you know, afghanistan is connected to broader security concerns across the region. it is to make sure it doesn't tlent the safety of the american people. >> last question right here. >> reporter: paul ryan said it was going to happen in 2017. as you see it, do you still believe it could get done in 2017 and secondly, now that it is being put in the hands of the committees from here on out to kind of do the work and come up with the figures, how confident are you that congress can kind
of handle this so you don't get burned on tax reform like you did with health care reform? >> let me just comment that first of all gary and i have been very focused on tax reform working with leadership since january. i think you know earlier in the year i thought we would get it done by august and i was wrong. i am now going to say i think we can get it done by the end of the year but we'll continue to revisit it. as we said before our objective here is to have one plan that includes the administration, house and senate to work very closely together. we have put out a statement on that. we'll continue to put more
details. i can assure you that the president's number one objective is now to get tax reform done. she going to gone the road. we are starting with his first trip next week the president
is 100% supportive of us passing legislation this year. thank you everybody. i wanted to come out and speak to you a little bit about hurricane harvey, the government's preparations. if i could i'll try to stick to informing you and maybe inspi inspiring. the last may be a little bit too far for me to go. so life safety here is our
priority. i want to walk through a few things we have done. we encourage individual responsibility and planning i would stress this is a serious storm. we have had significant rainfall projected. storm surge over the weekend into next week are forecast to be serious. this could remain a dangerous storm for several days and certainly we don't want to lose any life. flash flooding so taking this seriously is important. right now president trump and his entire team have been engaged in texas and louisiana preparing for this storm. as you know president trump spoke to both governors under
that leadership team we couldn't have a better team to be honest. they are responsible for bringing together the fire power but the state and local governments are in the lead here. we have a lot of respect and a lot of faith in the governors of these respective states as well. so he has a strong handle on what he is doing and governor abbot like wise. we would like to reenforce their planning efforts and challenge them and now is not the time to has faith in your government institutions. those emergency managers making recommendations for you. we encourage you to listen to them. lastly i would encourage a shameless plug here for all
americans to visit ready. gov. i'll take some questions. >> give us an idea what he'll be doing as he moves the cam pab this weekend. how is he going to be in touch with federal officials and local officials? >> first i'll start with what he has done. we have been giving him regular briefings and had him in touch with fema i have known administrator long for 15 years. he has had fema experience. she absolutely top of the top. what the president will do as we move forward is continue talking
directly with them and directly with the governors. if they have any unmet need the president will tolerate that and also continue talking to me and chief of staff and as we move out he has full resources to communicate with us. >> will the president sign an emergency declaration to prepare? >> that is being contemplated. we'll take the governor's request. if he makes the determination and a number of other requirements he then requests federal assistance. that request moves through the fema regional administrator up to the president. i believe it's in that process right now. once it gets to the president with formal recommendation he'll
act on that very quickly. i'm under the impression that the governor of texas has made that request and it's at fema right now. if all of the conditions are met and appropriate i believe the president will declare that disaster. >>. >> how much is it in the back of your mind and also a hurricane's path, typically where the hurricane comes through and you pick up the pieces. >> reporter: [ inaudible question ] >> yeah. a number of good questions. i was also in and through during
hurricane katrina. i had a role in the lessons learned. i think it's not just what's on my mind but on the minds of all of the emergency managers especially those in texas and louisiana still in their experience, muscle memory. congress has gotten better, passed laws to allow us flexibility to employ not just deploy in advance of an event. he'll employ the resources lastly how it is to get assistance to people. you never want to plan for the government to swoop in and provide everything you need when you need it just on time. it will be 4.6 million people depending somehow the forecast goes. that's lot of people. we encourage people to take responsibility for their own safety as the next 72 hours
unfold. of course food, water, shelter are the primary concerns. secondly when we provide that assistance we do it in just a way that's so organized if things work out the way they are supposed to that it flows to the individuals eligible for it or it flows to state and local officials to provide that food, water and commodities. lastly, i would like to make a plug as well. as you know we have a number of organizations those types of resources are impairtive i would like to thank them for their work. before i take that next question i would say sit a conference call of all of the effective parties and no unmet needs reported. they didn't report to us and they all reported they are in
the right operational posture to help the american people in the path of this storm. >> what questions did president trump have about the preparations that are underway? >> the president had three primary concerns. his first was the evacuation timing. are people getting out of harm's way and do we have the appropriate resources? that is what brock long reported that we did have all of those resources predeployed. it was not only that the people in harm's way be prepared and be evacuate withed but that the people show in any direction also be prepared. as we see it move don't lose that we have low level areas through the coast of louisiana. 50% lives in that coastal region.
new orleans to the illusion. they rely on pumps to pump water out. the army corp. of engineer and others have been providing necessary power generation to make sure if the conditions were to materialize in new orleans don't have necessarily bad flooding. it would put lives in harm's way. new orleans, texas, life safety and evacuations. >> okay. thank you. >> can you tell us who will be traveling with the president this weekend? you mentioned who will be accompanying you. is there any discussion about the president cancelling his trip in light of everything that you're saying? can you give us a sense of how he and you and your teams are thinking about this? are you anticipating it will be of the magnitude? >> i don't want to make that comparison. i think the first answer is we don't have any with the president. i do have incite into the resources. it is just as well resourced as
the white house. he'll have access. it's not a trip. it's just 45 minutes up the road for those of you in america thinking camp david is far away. it's right up the road. secondly, with every disaster is different. i would say if your house is flooded it doesn't matter if ten houses are flooded or 10,000 are flooded it. be prepared for your own consequences. the government needs to be prepared. we are low level ie lapds here that plight with in the storm surge path but katrina was a massive event that took place in the perfect condition and we had a flooding event associated with other things. i don't want people to draw those comparisons. i won't do that until it's over
though. >> reporter: [ inaudible question ] to coordinate and bring the full resources of the cabinet to keep this focused on the life sustaining efforts and to make thur americans in harm's way are protected. the second concern you have is making sure that regional event doesn't become a national or international vent. approximately 50% of the u.s. capacity is in the storm's path. that's something we have to take very seriously.
i will tell you that the last report i received is that the appropriate steps were being taken into a position they were ready to with stand wind and flooding. we have to wait it out and see what kind of damage is on the other side. the hope is they will be able to repair them and be back in business. while a large proportion is effected it might not cause a long-term disruption. >> how quickly are you prepared to move into texas? >> in our state and local planning and emergency community as a whole we had a federal response plan that failed. we updated that after 1992. we had a 9/11 event that caused
us. we tested it and found deficiencies. a great deal of effort went into changing the names of those documents. a great deal went into people executing those changes. i have got a tremendous amount of experience and tremendous amount of confidence in the people at the state and local levels and i actually had a lot of confidence that they will do what we need to do in this case. >> how quickly can you move into the area? >> it is not how quickly we can move boo the area. so what we do is we begin helping people from before. we are helping people depending how you define that. we are already providing resources. i mentioned the army corp. is providing extra generation capacity. it will help people with those pumps stay running. we are already leaning forward. it has allowed us to do that. >> you mentioned that now is not
the time. [ inaudible question ] >> i'm telling you it is important to remind people to listen to state and local officials. people don't and they end up wishing they had. you have nothing to lose but your life. i want you to listen. i'm not worried about losing falt in your federal government but in the state and local government. if they are asking you to evacuate listen to their advice. what they don't understand is that the number of time man
both of those and to reenforce them with rhetoric. we have faith in their judgment. people effected by those government officials should as well. mandatory or not if you're asked to leave it's a good idea to take those steps. >> reporter: [ inaudible question ] >> so there are people that can't get across the border? >> reporter: no. north of the border there are immigration check points and those are being maintained as well as fears there could be checks at shelters.
>> i haven't heard that. this is the first time president trump will be in charge far national disaster of -- natural disaster of this scale. what do you think he has to project for country to feel that he has lead well in this situation? >> this is right up president trump's ally. not only has he showed leadership but he is focused on the americans that voted him into office. she focused on effecting positive change in this country. when we go in and brief him on preparations he is focused on making sure that the american people in the storm's path have what they need. his questions weren't about issues or about large political consequences. it was are you doing what it takes to help people effected by this storm. you might not if you're living in the northeast think about this storm over the week. you might go about your business. the president is worried about
the 4.6 million people that are in that area of people that will be effected by this. to them this is the most important thing they will have to worry about for the next 24, 48, 72 hours. i was extremely happy with his leadership instincts on this. >> reporter: [ inaudible question ] >> it can make a difference. to the extent it meet it is criteria i would consider them to the extent that any ambiguity be cleared up that people know they have the ability to employer ve sources to provide money to other departments and agencies to do it's a good idea. >> reporter: [ inaudible question ]
>> yaechlt i think right now what's more appropriate is faces and voices be the two governors of the effected states. remember, no matter how forward leaning we are all of the federal family is here the support the two governors in this event and they are there to support to local officials. this is kind of a principal of federalism. if and when it effected local officials and the president declares such and issues a declaration it provides all of the federal assistance it might
be a good student. know that here in the white house across the street and all the way down to the lowest local level that people are doing the right thing. let's hope the forecasts are all wrong. i don't think it's the right thing but we'll do what it takes to make their lives easier. i proesh unite your time today. we'll keep you informed. thank you. >> thank you, tom. due to the president's departure coming up shortly we'll take a few questions. i'll skip any opens comments. the press staff will be around the rest of the day and throughout the week providing more on the storm and any other
issues. also, we received an update a few minutes ago that it looks like the president will make plans to go to texas early next week. we'll keep you posted on details about those as they are firmed up and certainly on any other plans and schedule changes throughout the weekend. >> reporter: [ inaudible question ] >> he said that the administration can and must do better condemning hate groups? >> the president is in regular contact. i won't get into specific conversations they may have had. the president has been very outspoken in his condemnation of racism of bigotry, of hate of all forms. i think as long as those things exist there's always more we should do. we will be looking for ways we can do more as an administration
until there's zero of those things then there's always more you can do. i think it doesn't just happen within the administration but i think it happens with the american people. i think that the president has called on america to come together to unite certainly throughout his comments over the course of the last week and i think that's something we should all step up and be willing to do and look for ways to get rid of bigotry in all forms. >> reporter: [ inaudible question ] >> go ahead. >> what is the president aware of -- [ inaudible question ] >> i think everybody wants to focus on a small parking lot of that int -- part of that interview. we are looking at a small portion of it.
the president and gary have spoken many times. gary has not held back. if you'll let me finish. he has not held back how he feels about the situation. i don't think that anyone was surprised by the comments. >> reporter: do you expect the president will reveal any new details about what he would like to see in the tax reform overall? >> i'll let the president do that while he is in missouri next week. i know he is looking forward to focusing on tax relief for middle class americans as we move into the fall. it will be a big priority and something i think everyone can expect to hear a lot more about over the coming weeks. i have to keep moving because we are really tight today. >> reporter: [ inaudible question ]
>> hopefully it will have the impact we are looking for. again, as general mcmasters said we leave all options on the table. nothing immediate and we'll focus on sanctions at this point. go ahead. >> reporter: i want to ask you about -- [ inaudible question ] >> the administration indicated that the program is under review. it continues to be under review and we will let you guys know when we have an announcement on it. >> a number of charities and other groups have cancelled vents does it mean we discussed the -- does it make him reconsider at all his remarks
and reaction in the wake of charlottesvil charlottesville? >> i can tell you -- and i'll echo the president's words and his feelings on this situation is that he condemns this in the strongest form possible. we'll continue to do that. we'll continue to bring that together and continue to be as we move forward. >> reporter: the president today took to twitter to criticize. [ inaudible question ]
>> i think it's clear to pass legislation. i think american people are very frustrated with congress's lack of action and for years they have been all talk and no action. sorry to cut short today. we'll be around for the rest of this afternoon to answer your questions. the president is departing here in a few minutes. all right. we'll get into that momentarily. first let's get to the story here. breaking news of a category 2 hurricane gaining strength with every passing hour. harvey is expect today make land fall overnight. when it hits it is projektd to be the most devastated to hit in
12 years. the full range captured from the international spaceation, we have a team in galveston, texas for us. we are in corpus christi. let's again with weather. we have been handed the latest update and the several varity of this storm. what's the update? >> the pressure has not dropped however a couple of hours ago the pressure did. it takes a while for winds the pick up in speed to gather speed. if you look at the imagery the bright colors of red and purple
are the higher cloud tops. the eye right now is about 90 miles from the coast. look at that. let's not forget about this. thaechb satellite showing us the thunderstorm activity to the north. it is typical when you get land fall like this. if you track this it is nine hours from now. we were thinking maybe it would stall and it still could. be prepared. 10:00 or 11:00 local time. the system still moves in. the national hurricane system brings it in as a category 3. and then if you continue it out brings it back offshore and then up towards galveston.
computer models have been a mess. i haven't seen anything quite like this. it because measly weak tropical storm allison. over 35 inch of rain around the houston area. 9 billion in economic losses and 41 fatalities. that was a weak tropical storm. can you imagine getting half of your yearly rainfall and drop it on you in a couple of days? that's what we are looking at. >> thank you. we'll come back to you. >> it's picking up. >> hi. this is the second band of hurricane harvey we have seen.
some of the strongest sustained winds we have seen throughout the day and obviously you can see the rainfall coming down intensely. this is the second of the strongest bands. it begins to make land fall along the gulf coast. this is sea wall boulevard. you can see the amount of traffic out on the road. many people here not evacuating and just kind of taking precautions here on the island throughout that storm. as you look back here over my shoulder looking in this direction that's south towards corpus christi. the brunt of the hurricane is expected to come in. we have been speaking with emergency management officials
we are told for the most part people are heeding the warnings but they worry there are a number of people who decided to kind of ride these storms out. as we have talked about before and can't we pete here is the amount of rainfall that will continue to fall but after it makes land fafall, stalls out a this is afternoon area that's used to a number of storms they have seen in the last ten years that might seem minor that creates flooding. this is the type of storm that's
much larger, dumping much more rain. these are areas in texas prone to flooding already in the most minimal of storms and you take a monster storm like this and it compounds to severity that this kind of storm can bring. >> go jump inside and get dry. stay safe to you and the crew. ed is there in galveston. a lot of people are heeding the warnings and evacuating. nick is also on the coast and a much different picture where you are so far. what are conditions right now?
>> reporter: the severity has ebbed and flowed as the bands work their way through core put christie. we are joined by one of the local representatives. where do things stand right now? >> most of the people that are going to go have gone. the buses taking folks to san antonio, that's all done. there is still time to take your private car and move up towards san antonio. we are in for several solely days of rain and probably weeks without electricity for a lot of folks. >> reporter: they say there's no sue perlative it will be that dangerous. what do you tell people who decided to stick this out?
>> you have to take care of yourself and be safe. it's too late to board up the windows. the wind is blowing a probably solid 30, 40 miles per hour. >> we have been rorgt live. is there any area that really concerns you the most? >> i represent all up and down the coast. the barrier islands are the biggest worry. low lying areas will be a problem. my family had a house in port aransas. when we came back to look at the house there was no house. you don't know what -- it's unprecedented that a storm comes ashore and forecast to stall. that's hours upon hours of potentially 100 plus miles per
hour winds. even the best built building it will be tough on. >> this storm is projected to be especially severe. >> to your point, heed the warnings. thank the congressman for us. appreciate you there in corpus christi. let's get now to the fallout from the president's remarks on the racist and deadly violence. the news today is that the national economic council director who was condemned for standing right by the president there last week at trump tower, virtually standing silent was on the brink of resigning because of them. this is what we learned. he is revealing how upset he was in this interview with the financial times which was supposed to be all about tax rae
form. this is the part that caught everyone's eye. he told them i am reluctant to leave my post because i feel a duty to fulfill my duty to work on behalf of the american people but i also feel compelled over the events of the last two weeks. this administration can and must do better condemning these groups and do everything we can to heel the diversions that exist in our communities. we have experts standing by including steven moore who served as an adviser. austin served as which i remember under president obama. so welcome to both of you.
steven moore, you know, the public rebuke, how much of a blow do you think this was for president trump, this near resignation? >> i think the good news is that he is going stay on the job. let's face it, the one thing donald trump has to get done is he has to get this tax cut passed. he is front and center on that. certainly he has the right to say it. it is appropriate donald trump keep him onto finish the economic agenda because he is very valuable. he is one of the gang of six that's putting this together. >> right. i understand you only met gary once. how much knowing president trump, how much do you think, if there was any work or arm
twisting to get him to stay on? >> well, look, i think donald trump understands how valuable gary is as well as steve. those are the two main, you know, figures in the white house getting this tax cut done. this would be a terrible time for either of them to leave. by the way, one quick point i have got to say is that a lot of the push to get him out came from a lot of these alumni and professors. >> that was actually -- >> sorry, with respect to -- and yale is probably one of the most closed minded in the country. it's a little rich that yale is saying you should be more open minded when they are one of the most closed minded universities
in the nation. >> i can't speak for yale but i'm sure they would take issue with that. >> okay. i don't know if you went to yale. >> i did go to yale. those are fighting words. i'm coming after you. >> really want i want to know, your two cents on this news. >> the president has shown when he is not offended he has remarkable flexibility in reopening up the tent to let people back in. you remember he called ben carson and said he was pathological like a child molester. he had no problem turning around to put him in the cabinet.
i don't think just that will make the president so upset that he would want to fire gary. i think steve is right. he feels like he really wants to do some economic policy and that cone might be the guy he has to do that with. i do think the president has shown a remarkably thin skin since he has been in office. we were kind of told he was going to act more presidential and he wouldn't have that hold a grudge-type mentality. steve bannon is out of there. we have all heard the rumors they will start doing so. i think they could inflame the president against gary in a way that would be really damaging for the administration. >> i'm hearing he has been one
of the leading choice as the federal reserve chairman. i think it could very easily be -- and he wants that job he might have realized i'm losing the chance of getting one of the most powerful when it comes to the committee. >> eyes ton prize. >> the question is would it anger the president enough that he could say, oh, yeah. i'm not going to make you the fed chair because you criticized me. he has done far more rash things than that. i wouldn't be surprised if it set him off that way. >> all right. we'll see about his future. >> sorry for the attack on yale. i know you're open minded. >> just go have some pizza there, steve and you'll change your whole -- >> pretty good in connecticut. thank you so