Skip to main content

tv   The Lead With Jake Tapper  CNN  January 18, 2017 1:00pm-2:01pm PST

1:00 pm
is confirmed. i haven't found anybody on capitol hill who has seen that plan. have you seen it? >> i've seen a lot of great ideas -- >> but there's no plan, you don't have legislation -- >> it's being crafted right now. we're working with a leadership of the house and the senate, our team, and we're getting very close. and as the president-elect said last week, we expect to have that plan come forward in the early days of the administration, take it to the congress and take it to the american people. and i'm very confident that we'll have the kind of alternatives to obamacare that will really unleash the potential of the american economy and the american consumer to take greater control of their own health care, improve their lives, improve their health and lower the cost of health insurance. >> so, not a plan, he hasn't seen a plan, but he's seen a lot of great ideas. they're writing the plan right now. >> correct. which is not exactly the same as what donald trump said.
1:01 pm
he also tried to clarify as he tends to be sort of the clarifier in chief, that when donald trump said everybody should have health care, that it was really access to health care, not necessarily the kind of oh, my goodness moment that republicans thought when had he heard him say that because some people might not have health care. they might not be able to keep his health care. >> with all due respect to vice president-elect pence, that's not a clarification, that's a contradiction. i mean, president-elect trump has said that there will be basically universal health insurance, and every -- the government will provide it, he said. >> yeah, and he did say, mike pence said that people who really he need it, who can't afford it will. but the question is more broadly how are people who currently have it under obamacare are going to keep it. the answer is they don't have an answer. >> tbd. >> exactly. >> the tbd health care plan. dana bash, thank you, appreciate
1:02 pm
it. obama, of course, causing a whole lot of fire works on capitol hill as president-elect trump top cabinet picks faced tough questions in confirmation hearings. we heard a strong charge from the senate's top democrat, schumer accusing the transition team of trying to rush the confirmation process. >> these past two weeks we have seen repeated efforts from the trump transition aided and abet ed by senate republicans to jamb through nominees in a way that hides their views from the american people. >> today among four trump cabinet nominees faced questions on capitol hill, congressman tom price, republican from fgeorgia is up for health and human services. they grilled him about his potential replacement for obamacare as well as stocks that he purchased that may have had something to do with the fields in which his committees oversaw. oklahoma attorney general scott pru it is mr. trump's pick to lead the environmental
1:03 pm
protection agency. today we heard pru it push back on the notion that he is a climate change denier. wilbur ross, trump's pick for commerce secretary, he slammed countries he says don't follow fair trade rules. and then, of course, there is south carolina governor nikki haley who has been nominates she questioned the russia hackings. i want to go to manu raju. chuck schumer, we heard him a few seconds ago, saying republicans have a specific reason for jamming nominees through the confirmation process. what did he have to say? >> yeah, that's right, jake. he saws that republicans are trying to hide these views of these nominees and schumer promising a, quote, extensive debate on the floor of the senate. and that could deny donald trump from getting the seven nominees he wants confirmed when he is sworn in on friday. the republicans firing back accusing democrats of playing politics.
1:04 pm
president-elect donald trump's cabinet picks, on the democratic firing line in contentious hearings today, starting with his choice to lead the health and human services department. at issue, congressman tom price's stock trades. while pushing legislation that could benefit those companies, including the medical device firm zimmer biomed. >> did you buy the stock and did you introduce a bill that would be helpful to the companies you just bought stock in? >> the stock was bought by a -- directed by a broker who was making those decisions. i wasn't making those decisions. >> do you decide not to tell them, wink, wink, nod, nod, and we're all supposed to believe that? did you take additional actions after that date to advance your plan to help the company that you now owned stock in? >> i'm offended by the insinuation, senator. >> price traded roughly $300,000 worth of shares in health care companies over the last four years. and democrats targeted a stock
1:05 pm
tip he allegedly received from new york congressman chris collins. price defended the investment. >> by definition, i believe that's the nature of a private placement offering. what i said to you and what i've said to others is i paid exactly the same price as everybody else. >> it really begs stability, sir, when you say you did not know that you got a discount on this. these sound like sweetheart deals. >> but republicans came to his defense, calling the democrats hypocrites. >> he abided by the rules, disclosures were always made in the house of representatives. this is a big phony stupid issue to try and smear a fella who is probably one of the best nominees for this position in history. >> say this, can you confirm that you have always followed the law relating to trading in stocks while serving as a member of congress? >> thank you, sir. everything that we have done has
1:06 pm
been aboveboard, transparent, ethical and legal. >> the battle over shadowed his main job if he's confirmed to the post. to repeal and replace obamacare. price said that replacing the law would take time. >> we don't believe in replacing a failed washington, d.c. health care plan with our own failed plan. we want to work on it step-by-step, large piece by piece. is that -- how do you respond to that? >> i think that's fair. i think that for individuals to -- the american people need to appreciate that the last thing we want to do is go from a democrat health care system to a republican health care system. our goal would be to go from what we see as a democrat health care system to an american health care system that recognizes the needs of all. >> three other trump nominees also faced tough questions from senators. including billionaire businessman wilbur ross to lead the commerce department. and oklahoma attorney general scott pruitt to head the epa.
1:07 pm
>> senator, as i've indicated, the climate is changing -- >> but you haven't told me why you think the climate is changing. >> well, senator, the job of administrator is to carry out the statutes as passed by this body. >> i'm asking you a personal opinion. >> my personal opinion is immaterial -- >> really? >> -- to the job, to the job of -- >> you are going to be the head of the agency to protect the environment and your personal feelings about whether climate change is caused by human activity and carbon emissions is immaterial? >> and in south carolina governor nickkki haley's hearin to be united nations, she took a tougher line than trump on issues like russia. >> russia is trying to show their muscle right now. it is what they do and i think we always have to be cautious. i don't think that we can trust them. >> and, jake, another trump nominee in hot water today after
1:08 pm
nick, the budget director nominee, acknowledged in a questionnaire to the senate that he did not pay federal and state income taxes, employment taxes on household employee and democrats saying this is the same issue that ended the nomination of tom daschle who was initially barack obama's pick to be the health and human services secretary in 2009. chuck schumer making that case just a few moments ago. >> senator tom daschle did the same thing and republicans insisted that that disqualified him from becoming hhs secretary. we say to our colleagues on the republican side of the aisle, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. if tom daschle couldn't become a cabinet member for not paying taxes for a household employee, then the same standard ought to apply to nick mulvaney. >> and, jake, donald trump's
1:09 pm
team doesn't seem to be taking that advice. actually issuing a statement saying they stand by nick mulvaney for the job. jake? >> manu, i broke that tom daschle story eight years ago and i have to say they didn't fight for tom daschle, the obama white house. they're the ones that folded and democrats controlled senate. they could have pushed it through if they wanted to. i don't fully understand why chuck schumer is blaming republicans for this. >> yeah, that's right. at the time, too, jake, as you recall, democrats revolted and didn't want to take up the tom daschle nomination. it is uncertain how senate republicans will deal with nick. this issue just breaking this afternoon. we'll see how he answers questions on this topic during his confirmation hearings. as you know, jake, it will take republicans to deny him from getting the post because they control the senate and they have the votes to confirm him if they stay united. jake. >> democrats had the house and the senate last time, too, eight years ago. manu raju, thank you so much.
1:10 pm
let's bring in chief med cat correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. let's focus on the obamacare portion of the hearings. he obviously wants to repeal it. he obviously wants to replace it. you were listening closely. what were some of the biggest concerns? >> you know, aside from what manu was just talking about, the biggest concern is what happens to the people who are all currently beneficiaries of the affordable care act. and depending on how you crunch the numbers, 18 to 20 million people either through the exchanges, through this market place or through medicaid expansion do have access to health care. what's going to happen, that's the biggest question. it kept coming up over and over again, and he was not providing a lot of specifics. i want to give you a little idea of what he said specifically, though. >> the last thing we want to do is go from a democrat health care system to a republican health care system. our goal would be to go from what we see as a democrat health care system to an american health care system. nobody is interested in pulling the rug out from under anybody.
1:11 pm
we believe that it's absolutely imperative that individuals that have health coverage be able to keep health coverage and move hopefully to greater choices and opportunities. >> and that's what he kept coming back to. we want to provide more choices for people through a wider market. if there is a theme, jake, it's that, look, we want less government control, we want more free market sort of principles being applied here. how exactly that works, we don't know. to be fair, you and i talked about this earlier, he has released a plan, the last one being over 200 pages. every year i think since 2009 about what his plan, empowering patients first would look like. so, it's out there, but exactly what that is going to be translatesed we don't know. >> it's not as though president-elect trump said i'm going to do the tom price plan. >> right. there are big differences already between what president-elect has said in terms of providing health care access/health care insurance to everybody versus what congressman price has put forward. those are very different.
1:12 pm
where we land i don't know. >> that's fascinating. there was also an interesting exchange between congressman price and senator bernie sand erdos over the price of prescription drugs. let's play some of that. >> we are paying by far some of the highest prices nft world for prescription drugs, you don't disagree with that, do you? do you disagree with that i think that's the case. there are a lot of reasons for that. if we get to the root cause of what this is, i think we can actually solve the bipartisan thing. >> so, sanjay, why do americans pay higher prices for prescription drugs than they do in other countries for the same drugs? >> the answer to that question, by the way, is yes, we do pay higher prices in this country versus other countries, developed countries. there's probably a few big reasons, but one of the biggest reasons is if you look at the largest, one of the largest purchasers of these drugs, medicare, providing medications for the elderly 65 and older, they have no authority to be able to negotiate drug prices with the pharmaceutical
1:13 pm
companies. the history of why that is is probably longer than we have time for right now. in 2003 when medicare part d became part of medicare, we're going to provide prescription drugs in addition to health care, this is this has always been a stipulation. we will do that, but the pharmaceutical companies, you don't negotiate with them. what the prices they set are the prices that are paid. pharmaceutical companies will say, of course, look, it costs a lot of money to develop these drugs. for everyone that works there are several that don't work. we lose money there as well. there are all sorts of justifications. but no other country in the world has a system like that where there is just no negotiating whatsoever. and even within the united states the va can negotiate. medicaid can negotiate a little bit, but again, medicare, that huge chunk of the whole pie there, they have no authority to do so. >> president-elect trump has been critical of that. we'll see if he brings that criticism and that frame of mind into the white house. sanjay, thanks so much, appreciate it. more on the confirmation hearings, a live look at capitol hill where lawmakers are in round three right now of questioning trump's pick to head the epa. this is the same man who has made a career out of fighting
1:14 pm
that very environmental protection agency. more on how he's differing from the president-elect today. stay with us. >> you take a binding -- gives you a reason to slow down and pull up a seat to the table. that's why she takes the time to season her turkey to perfection,
1:15 pm
and make stuffing from scratch. so that you can spend time on what really matters. marie callender's. it's time to savor. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla, apremilast. otezla is not an injection, or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. some people who took otezla saw 75% clearer skin after 4 months. and otezla's prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't take otezla if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. otezla may increase the risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts, or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. side effects may include diarrhea, nausea, upper respiratory tract infection, and headache. tell your doctor about all the medicines you take,
1:16 pm
and if you're pregnant or planning to be. ask your dermatologist about otezla today. otezla. show more of you. and you're talking to youro doctor about your medication... this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. this is humira helping me go further. humira works for many adults. it targets and helps to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to ra symptoms. humira has been clinically studied for over 18 years. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions,
1:17 pm
and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. ready for a new chapter? talk to your rheumatologist. this is humira at work. and for just $15.99big festival of shrimp you can pick 2 of 6 new and classic creations on one plate new flavors like sweet bourbon-brown sugar grilled shrimp and bold firecracker red shrimp are too big to last so hurry in. pain from a headache whecan make this...d, ...feel like this. all-in-one cold symptom relief from tylenol®, the #1 doctor recommended pain relief brand. tylenol®
1:18 pm
former preside welcome back to the lead. you're looking at live pictures from the confirmation hearing for oklahoma attorney general scott pruitt. he is president-elect trump's pick to lead the environmental protection agency. for hours today the oklahoma attorney general has been defending his views on climate change and his plans to revamp the very agency that he sued at least a dozen times as oklahoma attorney general. this as today, 2016, was officially named the planet's
1:19 pm
hottest year on record. according to the world metrology cal association, this is the third consecutive year global temperatures have climbed higher than any previous year. cnn's rene marsh joins me from capitol hill. rene, mr. prut was asked about his perspective on climate change whether he views it as a hoax as donald trump has suggested and tweeted in the past. >> that's right. this is a sticking point. >> science tells us the climate is changing. and human activity in some manner impacts that change. the ability to measure with precision the degree and extent of that impact and what to do about it are subject to continuing debate and dialogue. >> do you agree that global warming is a hoax? >> i do not, senator. >> so, donald trump is wrong? >> i do not believe that climate kma is change is a hoax. >> you just heard from scott prut. this is a hearing that's been going on for more than six hours now. he did say that he believes that the climate is changing.
1:20 pm
however, jake, when pressed on what is causing that change, he was not prepared to say humans. he was not prepared to say oil or gas emissions is causing that climate change. he did not go that far. i will say it has been quite a contentious hearing. we had protesters not only on the outside, but on the inside and on the inside a clear split, a hard split between lawmakers. you have republicans on one side pressing him asking him whether he will make sure there is a good balance between environmental needs and the needs of the energy industry so that they can remain profitable. meantime on the other side you have democrats who are saying the health of people is extremely important, and in many cases more important than the profitability of the energy industry, jake. >> that's right. skeptics seem to be conceding the point climate change is real. right now what they are refusing to say is that it is definitively manmade and that it definitively can be tied to
1:21 pm
events here on planet earth. that seems to be where they're dodging these days. rene, mr. prut today also -- he was also accused by democrats of working on behalf of industry rather than protecting the environment. >> that's right. i mean, there was this one moment between scott prut and senator corey booker. we have that moment for you in which he brings up stats from mr. prut's own state of oklahoma. stats as it relates to asthma in children. take a listen to that exchange. >> do you know how many kids in oklahoma roughly have asthma? >> i do not, senator. >> more than 111,000 children in oklahoma, which is more than 10%, more than one in ten of all the kids in oklahoma have asthma. did you ever let any of them write letters on your letterhead to the epa and did you even file one lawsuit, one lawsuit on
1:22 pm
behalf of those kids? >> senator, i've actually provided a list of cases totd chairman with respect to enforcement steps we've taken in multiple pieces of environmental litigation. >> all right. the senator's point there was that he felt that during his time as attorney general in oklahoma, scott prut fought more so for the energy industry as opposed to the people of oklahoma. that is the senator's take on this. i did speak with senator carper. we also spoke with senator bernie sanders, both of them very disploezed. they say they will not vote for him. as you know, jake, democrats do not have the votes to block him. when pressed on that, senator carper said even though we he don't have the votes, it will not stop me from trying. he then went on to quote wayne gretzky saying if you only miss 100% of the shots you don't take, jake. >> re may marshall on capitol hill, thanks.
1:23 pm
joining me environmentalist tom stier, a fierce critic of donald trump especially his position on the environment. tom, thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. you heard attorney general prut, oklahoma attorney general prut commenting on climate change saying it's not a hoax, allowing the human activity is contributing. but he did say the extent of climate change and how the world should respond to it is up for debate and dialogue. what's your reaction? >> well, my reaction, jake, is that this is exactly the same tactic that the cigarette companies used for decades, which is we're not sure exactly what the truth is. we need to do more work. in the meantime we should proceed exactly as we are to try to confuse the issue and make everything as uncertain as possible so that, in fact, nothing gets done. >> prut said today that the epa is a vital agency, but under the obama administration the administration's made energy development in the united states
1:24 pm
extremely difficult, prut said that the u.s. can pursue mutual goals of protecting the environment and growing the economy and the notion that these two are mutually exclusive is wrong. what do you think of that? >> well, i think that mr. prut misses probably the most obvious point, which is that the growth of the american economy at this point is tied to moving to new kinds of energy. so that in fact, if we move to the new technologies that are cheaper than fossil fuels, we will grow much faster. we will have better paid workers and more work, and our costs will go down. so, i absolutely agree that we can have a much cleaner, healthier and more prosperous future. but the way that i believe it's going to happen is through moving to new technologies and depending on american innovation and american business. >> when asked about the role and value of the epa, mr. prut today suggested that the agency needs to do a better job of partnering with individual states and giving those states more control. take a listen.
1:25 pm
>> as i've indicated, senator, i really believe that it's important and it's a partnership between the epa and the states. i made reference to the phrase earlier national standards and neighborhood solutions. i think that that shows that the epa can be involved and should be involved in setting standards, setting objective science-based standards to improve air quality and protecting the health of our citizens. >> obviously you know that a lot of local businesses complain about the epa, about bureaucrats in washington, d.c. setting rules and not really understanding what's going on in their neighborhoods. how do you respond to that general criticism and mr. prut's suggested remedy? >> i think that mr. prut can say whatever he wants, but he has a very long history of partnering with corporations. he has a very long history of partnering with corporations against the interests of american citizens. so, when he talks about partnering, makes me very nervous because of the fact of the matter is when he was in
1:26 pm
oklahoma, there was a part of his agency as attorney general was designed to protect environmental interests and he disbanded that unit completely and started up another unit to sue the american government and the epa to prevent them from imposing environmental standards. so, when he talks about partnership, i really think he's talking about partnering with corporations to preserve their interests against the interest of american citizens. >> one of the biggest environmental disasters of the last eight years had to do with the water crisis in flint, michigan. mr. prut was asked about that and the fact that the epa was criticized for not responding quickly enough. take a listen to that. >> i think with flint, michigan, it's an example of not delay in response by the epa. there should have been more done on corrosion control programs with the flint, michigan system. as you know, under the clean water act, and the safe drinking water act. if there is an emergency
1:27 pm
situation, the epa can enter an emergency order to address those kinds of concerns. i think there should have been a more fast response, a more rapid response to flint, michigan. >> your response? >> it's easy for him to criticize the epa. it's a complicated job running -- and his history is entirely in opposing environmental protections and opposing the interests of american citizens. so, why we would have any confidence that after decades of his behavior, he would change when he had -- he's being brought in as the chief opponent of the epa somehow to become the head of the agency that is protecting our environment. that seems to me to be a complete contradiction and has to be intentional. >> tom steyer, always good to have you on the show. appreciate it. >> jake, thank you very much for having me. >> the president-elect putting the finishing touches on an inauguration speech he wrote himself, according to aides. what kind of tone will mr. trump
1:28 pm
take on friday? that story next. when you're close to the people you love, does psoriasis ever get in the way of a touching moment? if you have moderate to severe psoriasis, you can embrace the chance of completely clear skin with taltz. taltz is proven to give you a chance at completely clear skin. with taltz, up to 90% of patients had a significant improvement of their psoriasis plaques. in fact, 4 out of 10 even achieved completely clear skin. do not use if you are allergic to taltz. before starting you should be checked for tuberculosis. taltz may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you are being treated for an infection or have symptoms. or if you have received a vaccine or plan to.
1:29 pm
inflammatory bowel disease can happen with taltz. including worsening of symptoms. serious allergic reactions can occur. now's your chance at completely clear skin. just ask your doctor about taltz.
1:30 pm
and i finally found our big idaho potato truck. it's been touring the country telling folks about our heart healthy idaho potatoes, america's favorite potatoes, and donating to local charities along the way. but now it's finally back home where it belongs. aw man. hey, wait up. where you goin'? here we go again. i mwell, what are youe to take care odoing tomorrow -10am? staff meeting. noon? eating. 3:45? uh, compliance training. 6:30? sam's baseball practice. 8:30? tai chi. yeah, so sounds relaxing. alright, 9:53? i usually make their lunches then, and i have a little vegan so wow, you are busy. wouldn't it be great if you had investments that worked as hard as you do? yeah. introducing essential portfolios. the automated investing solution that lets you focus on your life.
1:31 pm
pain from a headache whecan make this...d, ...feel like this. all-in-one cold symptom relief from tylenol®, the #1 doctor recommended pain relief brand. tylenol®
1:32 pm
stey tal
1:33 pm
1:34 pm
welcome back to "the lead." we're going to stick with politics now. the inauguration is on friday so we're going to stay on that story. the president-elect taking the time today to pick another fight even though he's working 0 not his inaugural speech with a fashion legend and to extend a fight with that civil rights icon. but we are learning more about what mr. trump plans to say on friday which might be more important than these feuds. he's going to try to unite a fractured country, we're told. sara joins me now. sara, this list of democrats not coming to the inauguration and whether you support it or not, it is just getting longer and longer, more than 50,000?
1:35 pm
-- 50 now? >> members of congress will skip an inauguration, but they don't make the fuss they're making this time around, coming out publicly saying they're boycott ing it. a number of them saying this feud donald trump continues to fuel with civil rights icon and congressman john lewis was really the last straw in their view and they feel like they can no longer go. they can't support it. now, donald trump is sort of shrugging this all aside. he did it in an interview with fo fox. he said if you're not going to be there, would you return your tickets. others i can people's hearts and minds about him on inauguration. day. >> known for rhetoric, not for soaring orator y. tell us about those plans. >> we know all politicians promise a lot in their first 100 days. we know they're working toward moving to repeal and replace obamacare. that seems to be the top thing on their list. we do expect executive orders along these lines very quickly. we also know that tax reform is very high on his list, but more complicated. and finally there is this issue of the wall. donald trump says he does not want to wait to get started on it and that's why he's tweaking his plans about how he's going to pay for it. listen to what he said. >> when i said we're going to get reimbursed for the wall, oh, trump is not keeping his promise. wait a minute, we're going to build the wall. mexico is going to reimburse us, and headlines, trump is not -- what is this all about? i could wait, but in order to get the wall started, which we're going to do sooner than we can do the deal, we have to do it this way. >> now, i don't remember when we were traveling across the country the cheer being who is going to pay for it, mexico later, they're going to reimburse us. i think this is a good example of campaign promises meeting political and actual reality. so, we will see exactly how
1:36 pm
donald trump plans to have mexico reimburse him for the wall. >> all right, sara murry who will be covering donald trump at the white house for cnn. we're very excited about that. thanks for being here. thanks for joining us. it's the hearing that's been all the talk online and probably a few pta meeting. betsy devos, the billionaire business woman and philanthropist and trump's pick for education secretary, she faced the senate to us. and while we still do not know where she stands on many key education issues that could impact your children, there was one viral exchange having to do with guns and grizzly bears. what's this? cnn's jeff is live in our d.c. newsroom and has all the highlights of the devos hearing. jeff, she really did face a fury of criticism from the democrats. >> she did indeed, jake. and of course we know she is a proponent of charter schools. she is a proponent of diverting some federal money and local money from public schools to private schools. that has been a long held belief
1:37 pm
of hers. she's a big republican contributor as well. so, that put a target on her back when she was at the hearing yesterday. but it was that one comment about gun policies specifically, a question that was asked by a big proponent of gun policy reform, connecticut's senator chris murphy who asked her the question here about gun policy, if she agrees with it or not. and take a listen to what she said, and then we'll talk about it on the other side. >> you can't say definitively today that guns shouldn't be in schools? >> well, i will refer back to senator enzi and the school that he was talking about in wyoming. i think probably there, i would imagine that there's probably a gun in the school to protect from potential grizzlies. >> if president trump moves forward with his plan to ban gun-free school zones, will you support that proposal? >> i will support what the
1:38 pm
president-elect does. >> and the grizzly comment there, jake, she was talking about was a comment that senator enzi, of course republican from wyoming was making earlier in the hearing, talking to her about local school control and how some of his districts are rural and thing like that. but certainly in terms of gun policy with the memory of knew town and other shootings we've seen so much did not resonate very well there. but she was also pressed so hard by senator elizabeth warren, democrat of course of massachusetts. she was one of the democratic senators who was simply saying she's not fit for the job, qualified for the job because she herself has not been in public education. listen to this exchange. >> mrs. devos, have you ever taken out a student loan from the federal government to help pay for college? >> i have not. >> have any of your children had to borrow money in order to go to college? >> they have been fortunate not to. >> have you had any personal experience with the pel grant? >> not personal experience, but
1:39 pm
certainly friends and students with whom i have worked have. >> so, you have no personal experience with college financial aid or management of higher education. >> so, jake, as a matter of substance here, of course you do not have to be an attendee of public school to be the secretary of education here, but democratic senators were trying to make the point that she is not an advocate for the department she is going to be leading. but also questions about her ethics review, she is the only trump nominee to date that has been sitting before a senate confirmation hearing whose ethics review has not been completed. still questions about her tax returns, her financial information. she and her family are worth about $5 billion, one estimate shows from the amway fortune in michigan. she's contributed some $200 million her and her family over the years to republicans. it's one of the reasons democrats were going after her so hard. republicans on capitol hill said today, jake, she flatly was not prepared for the hearing. she had a rough day, but the reality also here, she's almost certain to be confirmed and she
1:40 pm
may be one of the first ones confirmed awaiting president trump next week. jake? >> republicans giving her bad marks in addition to democrats, but we should also point out joe lieberman, former democratic senator from connecticut was one of the people who introduced her. he supports her even though he's more of an independent now. thanks, jefr. appreciate it. coming up more information about george h.w. bush and his wife barbara in the hospital. we'll bring you the latest on their conditions next. (bell chimes) ♪
1:41 pm
nice work brother dominic. now we just need 500 more... translated into 35 languages, personalized oh and shared across the 7 continents. (other languages spoken) look abbot, i got it. it's a miracle. ♪ pain from a headache whecan make this...d, ...feel like this. all-in-one cold symptom relief from tylenol®, the #1 doctor recommended pain relief brand. tylenol®
1:42 pm
isjust wanna see ifa again? my score changed... you wanna check yours? scores don't change that much. i haven't changed. oh, really? ♪ it's girls' night they said business casual. i love summer weddings! oh no. yeah, maybe it is time. maybe i should check my credit score. try credit karma. it's free. oh woah. that's different. check out credit karma today. credit karma. give yourself some credit.
1:43 pm
1:44 pm
betsy dev welcome back to "the lead." let's turn to our health lead now, former president george h.w. bush and wife barbara bush are in the hospital. 41st president is in intensive care. let's bring in chief medical correspondent jamie and sanjay gupta.
1:45 pm
what happened? >> what happened, president bush was admitted over the weekend because he was having problem with shortness of breath and cough. they gave him an iv antibiotics and they thought he was doing well. unfortunately today there was a change in his condition and he was put in intensive care. he was diagnosed with pneumonia. and we have this statement. doctors performed a procedure to protect and clear his airway that required sedation. president bush is stable and resting comfortably in the icu where he will remain for observation. so, that was some unfortunate news. mrs. bush was also admitted today for fatigue, cough, just not feeling well. i'm sure her husband's condition didn't help, but that's where we stand. he's 92, she's 91, i think, you know, they're he getting on in years. >> yeah, no, that's sad. sanjay, as jamie said, president bush is 92 years old, barbara
1:46 pm
bush is 91. obviously we're hoping for the best. we want them to get out and get well soon. realistically speaking, people that old get pneumonia, they're in the icu, should we worry? >> absolutely. i think it's concerning. there's no question. and the hospital obviously has taken actions putting him in the icu as you mention, and the procedure jamie is describing is a tube. he was intubated. tube down the throat, through the trachea to help with breathing. he hadn't had that done before even the times he'd been sick before. compared to his other bouts of pneumonia which he had in the past, this does seem more serious. we always say, jake, age is not measured in years. there's people's physiology. he was jumping outs of planes. 92 years old with this diagnosis, everybody is going to be cautious in the hospital. >> i want to add i saw them several times this summer and he was in great shape, butter than i would say he's been in years.
1:47 pm
he's had health scares before and so he was doing really well. he said to me, jamie, i'm going to live to be 104. but wintertime, cold, flu, when you're elderly, when you're vulnerable, this is what happened to him in 2012 and 2014, and unfortunately today. >> and we had already been told he was not going to attend the inaugural because his doctor said to go out into the winter like this he would be 6 feet under. george w. bush his son still planning oncoming? >> he's still scheduled to come. >> we're all hoping for the best. thank you so much, sanjay, jamie, really appreciate it. protecting the president-elect, the head of the u.s. see he kret service, talking about how they're preparing for donald trump. plus the new tool they're going to use at this friday's inauguration. stay with us.
1:48 pm
1:49 pm
1:50 pm
1:51 pm
1:52 pm
welcome back to "the lead." a beautiful vista here in washington, d.c. a cnn exclusive now international lead, trump takes the oath of office friday. the full force of the u.s. domestic security apparatus will be around him ready for any possible threats, including any possible terrorism. let's bring in cnn justice correspondent pamela brown. pamela, you had an exclusive interview with the head of the u.s. secret service. are they ready for friday? >> well, the secret service director says his agency is prepared and has been doing actual training with law enforcement partners for various scenarios that could happen along the parade route. he says what makes this year's inauguration unique from years past is the expanded perimeter and evolving security threats like drones. it's a monumental event that washington, d.c. and the
1:53 pm
nation's top security officials have been preparing for relentlessly. >> i think i should start with it's a national special security event. he secret service clancy sat down with cnn to explain how he and his team plan to protect and serve. >> everyone from the secret service who is involved in the parade will come out to our training facility and will go through scenarios of what may or may not happen during that parade route or at the capital. we also bring in our tactical teams so there is this joint effort. >> the department of home land security estimates the inauguration will see 28,000 security personal he will from multiple departments, including the fbi. >> for us and the fbi it will certainly be in the hundreds on inauguration day. every seat in here will be filled, will be sharing information and intelligence throughout the event. again, to get ahead of things, to stay ahead of the threat and to stop bad things from happening. >> all hands will be on deck to
1:54 pm
protect the nearly 1 million people expected to attend friday's events. among the attendees, congressional leaders, former presidents and cabinet members, and, of course, the trumps. law enforcement wants to ensure there is little reprize of campaign rallies that saw clashes between protesters and trump supporters. even tense moments for the candidate himself. >> are you concerned about protesters and people coming amped up wanting to cause violence? >> there is always -- i don't know if i'd say concern, but there is always that awareness that protesters may be at any of our sites. we dealt with this throughout the campaign. i think we were very successful with that, working with our partners. >> unlike many inaugurations past, security plans this year include drone detection. the aerial devices have breached white house security in the past flying over the fences as recently as 2015. that is one evolving security threat. >> absolutely.
1:55 pm
it is a concern for so many people. there's been a lot of work done in that area and certainly over the inauguration, that's restricted air space. so, i would advise any of your viewers not to have any of those up in the air. >> experts tell cnn authorities can now intercept and land droenz, and even use radio frequencies to track the operators. >> i'm not going to go into it, but we do have certain capabilities to detect and defeat devices of that nature. >> and official are expecting dozens of demonstration groups on inauguration day. the washington post site 63 groups both pro and con expected to be in attendance. as you heard they are prepared if anything gets out of hand. the secret service will only intervene if there is a direct threat to the president. jake? >> a big, big security challenge. pamela brown, thank you so much. that's for me and "the lead." cnn films was allowed unique access rarely seen by the public as part of a documentary, the end, inside the last days of the obama white house.
1:56 pm
that heirs this evening at 9:00 p.m. eerns. wolf blitzer is coming up next in "the situation room." that's it for us. stay with us. see you tomorrow. what's with him? he's happy. your family's finally eating vegetables thanks to our birds eye voila skillet meals. and they only take 15 minutes to make. ahh! birds eye voila so veggie good by the time you head to the bank and wait to get approved for a home loan, that newly listed, mid-century ranch with the garden patio will be gone.
1:57 pm
or you could push that button. sfx: rocket launching. cockpit sounds and music crescendo. skip the bank, skip the waiting, and go completely online. get the confidence that comes from a secure, qualified mortgage approval in minutes. lift the burden of getting a home loan with rocket mortgage by quicken loans. (whisper) rocket i mwell, what are youe to take care odoing tomorrow -10am? staff meeting. noon? eating. 3:45? uh, compliance training. 6:30? sam's baseball practice. 8:30? tai chi. yeah, so sounds relaxing. alright, 9:53? i usually make their lunches then, and i have a little vegan so wow, you are busy. wouldn't it be great if you had investments that worked as hard as you do? yeah. introducing essential portfolios. the automated investing solution that lets you focus on your life.
1:58 pm
1:59 pm
2:00 pm
happening now, breaking news, final answers. president obama gives his last news conference. defends the news media harshly criticized by president-elect trump, and he defends commuting the sentence of national security leaker chelsea manning. and as our new poll shows, president obama is leaving office with an approval rating of 60%. he cautions his successor saying, you can't do it by yourself. confrontation hearings, angry democrats saying donald trump has put together what they call a swamp cabinet and harshly grills his nominees for the health and environmental post. but the pentagon pick sales