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tv   Outside Source  BBC News  January 25, 2017 9:30pm-10:01pm GMT

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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. let's look through some of the main stories here in the bbc newsroom. donald trump has signed into action orders to build his well and limit funds to cities that protect illegal immigrants, and says building will begin in months. i would say in months, i am planning to start immediately. we'll also be picking apart what donald trump's latest policies means for abortion, the environment and immigration from the middle east and north africa. we have a lot to get through. a lot to get through — if you want to get in touch, #bbcos is where to go. it is hard to predict which subject
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areas will generate interest from your questions and most of the questions are about executive orders, what the presidents can use them for, if there are any checks, can they sign of funding or of congress needs to get involved. we have been looking at the questions on executive orders, anthony will join us in about 15 minutes and we can work through a lot of these issues. we must turn to some other really significant developments. let us really significant developments. let us do that. bit by bit. there are reports that mr trump might intend to lift a ban on cia black site prisons, secret prisons or non—us territory used for interrogations and well president george w bush was in power. the new york times says there is a draft executive order
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that would roll back a series of restrictions that barack obama set on the treatment of detainees — other media has this draft order, too. but let's take note of this — the white house press secretary sean spicer says this document isn't from the white house. can you shed any light on this draft memo going around about interrogation practices? yes. what agency did this originate from? i don't know, it is not a white house document and for those who have reported on this, this is the second day that a document that was not from the white house has been reported on as factual. i have no idea where that came from. it is not a white house document. donald trump
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has been asked about water boarding. if he feels it might prompt some useful information. this was his reply... absolutely, ifeel it works. but he'll "defer to the defence secretary and cia director" on whether to use it. but he is quite clear that he believes it is something the united states can justify and that it works. we can speak to barbara plett usher. that statement on water boarding, is that a significant shift? he has saying that -- been saying that throughout the campaign, that enhanced interrogation techniques can be effective and he said that terror suspects deserve it but the caveat is significant. that he would take the advice or defer to the head of the military and the cia and the head of the military has been clear that they will stand
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against enhanced interrogation techniques, this is something that do not advise, in keeping with government policy. at the moment we are looking at mr trump's opinion. if we see that enhanced in any executive what we will have to question what will come from this. if he says he would refer to the cabinet members and intelligence officials, it seems unlikely he will move forward on this. officials, it seems unlikely he will move forward on thislj officials, it seems unlikely he will move forward on this. i wanted to mention reports on black sites, cia prisons, we have seen organisations saying that they oppose this what i wa nted saying that they oppose this what i wanted to emphasise the caveat, we cannot confirm this is happening. what have you been hearing? this is something that is in the pentagon and intelligence areas and i am at the state department so there has not been a lot of talk here. but the
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document circulated talks about are a few of those black sites, it is something that president obama did away with, something that was very much criticised at home and especially abroad and at whitby at big step to bring them back but what does review mean? it means mr trump is thinking about it, he wants to signal he is ready to go in that direction and the question is, what do his key officials in the security tea m do his key officials in the security team advise him? and if he is going to ta ke team advise him? and if he is going to take the opinion of the top people on that, particularly the head of the military, he will be told he needs to temper that kind of approach. the next thing, i want to bring up some copy on the screen... each of the stories would be considered significant on their own. this is from reuters, the draft of an executive order has been seen
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directing the pentagon and state department to create plans for safe zones for civilians in syria. barbara? what are you hearing? zones for civilians in syria. barbara? what are you hearing ?|j zones for civilians in syria. barbara? what are you hearing? i can tell you that the state department is scrambling to keep up with not only these executive orders but the reports about executive orders that might get issued so we're not getting any official reaction but i can say that this is consistent with what mr trump can say that this is consistent with what mrtrump said can say that this is consistent with what mr trump said during his campaign. he supported the idea of safe zones in syria for civilians, essentially at the time he presented them as a way to keep syrian civilians in syria or east of the region as a way to stem the refugee crisis and another thing he said he -- is crisis and another thing he said he —— is he would get the gulf countries to pay for that. would they do that? he has never detailed how this would work militarily and the government has not gone for them so the government has not gone for them so far because to have a real one you have to have military muscle
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behind it, planes in the sky ready to shoot down any threat. this is quite a big deal to set up a safe sun but that will be studied, apparently. one last story of huge significance, if it happens. reports that immigrants from seven countries, including libya, yemen, iran, syria and iraq will be incredibly restricted in their ability to come into the us. what have you heard? that is part of mr trump ‘s promise to restrict immigration from countries that are seen immigration from countries that are seen as a immigration from countries that are seen as a real security threat because they have islamic state or al-qaeda operatives in them and he says he is not convinced the betting is good enough to make sure there is no threat so this has not been announced from —— but from what we hear, the idea is to block immigrants or bases from seven countries, all of them north african and middle eastern, for at least a
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period of one month or more. in order to look at what the vetting practices should be. that would be something that falls to the state department briefed and you can hear people here saying we have stringent practices already and we are not sure how far we can go unless that it is something he turned to instead of his initial promise, which was to block muslims from coming to the united states. as it can see from the countries mentioned, syria, iraq, yemen, libya, they are all muslim countries anyway. but it would be some specific countries rather than a blanket ban and the way it has been presented is this would be a temporary block to begin with, based on reviewing vetting procedures. it has been quite a day. thank you for helping us for that. barbara plett usher live from the state department. we're spending the
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entire hour looking at developments with the trump administration. we are taking you through these one by one. and also any questions you have one. and also any questions you have on the stories we are covering. you can find on the stories we are covering. you canfind me on the stories we are covering. you can find me on social media and we have an e—mail address on screen. next to federal communication. mr trump has already fundamentally shifted us policy on trade, energy, and immigration next to federal communication. two departments have been on the receiving end of a de facto gagging order.
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these are memos released to the media — they show the president has banned us environmental protection agency employees from "providing updates on social media or to reporters". similar guidance has been issued to department of agriculture employees. that didn't go down well with someone with access to the badlands national park. they treated... today, the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is higher than at any time in the last 650,000 years. the point was to say, please take climate change seriously. that and a couple of others were deleted. matt mcgrath is the bbc‘s environment correspondent. i wanted to know from him whether it would be normalfor an environmental agency like this to communicate directly with journalists and the public. here's the answer. pretty much so and what has happened in the united states under president trump is very unusual. if you look at what he said about what he wants the epa to be, he wants to be about clea n the epa to be, he wants to be about clean air clean water. not to be doing so much stuff on climate change. at the moment they have put in place a block on the epa furthering grants and doing business and they have asked employees not to communicate about that. whether that
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will be reviewed and what will happen, we don't yet know. clean air and what is important but regarding climate change the suggestion is the white house will take a more central role on how america responds? you must understand the epa has played a crucial role under president obama on climate change, the supreme court judge —— judged that carbon dioxide gas was a blatant and president 0bama used epa to regulate that. president trump and his team believe the epa is involved on putting up too much regulation that stop the oil and gas industry and the coal industry and he wants to remove those. the battle over climate has practical applications and president trump sees this as key to the way he revives industry throughout the us. is one of the applications that epa will get smaller? that is what people fear, if not shut down, at least curtailed in many ways. scott
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pruitt, the oklahoma attorney general, who was likely to be the head of the epa, has taken lawsuits against epa. the belief is they will curtail this and its role in carbon dioxide production. we have talked about federal communications and immigration and trade and international security. we can talk about what he did on monday. on monday, president trump signed an executive order cancelling funds for groups that offer abortions or abortion advocacy, even if they use their own funds to do so. this means that aid agencies working in foreign countries will lose millions of dollars in funds. today we've heard that the netherlands is launching a global fund to try and cover the lost funding. the country's foreign ministry said "where decisions are taken that are bad for women in developing countries we should help those women,". "it's not about the politics, it's about those women." pai is a global reproductive health organisation and says "this is a policy denying women life—saving services — it will cut off funding for groups
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providing hiv testing kits to teenagers, it will cut malaria programmes". but donald trump and his supporters argue this move isjustified. the white house press secretary took on the issue on monday. this is sean spicer. i think the president has made it clear he is pro—life. he wants to stand up for all americans, pro—life. he wants to stand up for allamericans, including pro—life. he wants to stand up for all americans, including the unborn, and the reinstatement of this policy is not just and the reinstatement of this policy is notjust something that echoes that value but respects nick sayer funding and ensures we stand up not just for life and the life of the unborn but for all taxpayer funds being spent oversized to perform an action that is contrary to the actions of this president. —— overseas. this continues to grow. nancy kacungira in nairobi updated me on what this means
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for aid organisations in developing countries. countries like kenya. simply, they are worried they will have to reduce the number of services they offer to some of the oppressed people on the continent. the thing about this iteration of the global bank is it has spread the net wider and it encompasses not just family has spread the net wider and it encompasses notjust family planning at all global health funding. this means organisations working with malaria programmes here and with maternal health programmes, whatever it is, they have to ensure there is not a single part of any of those programmes that does so much as offer the suggestion of abortion. there is quite a lot of concern that this is going to impact them heavily in terms of the services they can offer. there might be some americans who want to ask, why is it us that is required to provide the funding
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for this? that is a long-standing commitment that the us has continually made and abortion is a very contentious issue. here in africa, there are 1.6 million cases related to unsafe abortions that are tended to across the continent every year and there is not much funding coming from anywhere else. aid organisations have traditionally relied on the united states for help with some of this funding, especially in countries where the restrictions and the law allowed abortion is very complex or very ambiguous. so it is for the longest term partnership but the united states has been involved in with the continent and many will be sad to see that change. thank you. let us continue on the coverage of all the developments today involving the trump administration. i want to talk about gary cohn — he's mr trump's pick to lead the us
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national economic council. until thatjob offer came, he's been president of goldman sachs. his selection has sent the sent goldman sachs shareprice soaring and that's good news for mr cohn. it has gone up. this is january and it has been going up. he's going to have to divest himself from the bank — that will including selling shares. the wall streetjournal puts a figure on it. it estimated that his exit will top $100 million. first of all, what is thisjob? $100 million. first of all, what is this job? what will he be doing? you will remember under the obama administration he assembled a council so people who were within the business community and also economists who got around and talked a lot about what the direction of
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the us economy and what should be done about it. this is an extension of that same kind of idea. what is interesting is when you look at the wider trump economic team, including other members of that team, there area other members of that team, there are a few goldman sachs veterans and thatis are a few goldman sachs veterans and that is part of the reason why we see the stock value going up so much and that is probably one of the biggest lifts to the dow since the election, we have seen them entering the trump administration. that might lead to a lighter touch regulation for the banking sector and perhaps we could see after the crash in 2008? exactly right. butjust for banks in general and mr trump has spoken about this and his colleagues, about rolling back some of those backing regulations but specifically regarding goldman
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sachs, when you have more than a few people who are veterans of that bank as part of the demonstration, there could be a lighter touch specifically regarding that bank. thank you forjoining us twice. we have been getting lots of questions for you. specifically about executive orders. we will get to those in a few moments. women are experiencing widespread discrimination when it comes to dress codes at work, according to a parliamentary report. mps heard from hundreds of women who reported that the dress codes they were subject to were sexist. meet nicola thorp. she was told to wear high heels on herfirst day temping at a city firm. scarlet harris is the women's equality officer at the tuc. melanie bramwell runs a recruitment agency. i caught up with them to hear about dress code discrimination and how nicola refused to toe the line.
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when i realised that they were insisting that all women wore high heels to portray their desired image, it made me realise that, actually, my employer didn't want me to just look smart and professional, they wanted me to look attractive. and i didn't want to be seen as attractive in the workplace. ijust wanted to do myjob. so, scarlet, how widespread is the issue? the committee found lots and lots of women talking about their experiences of being made to wear, notjust high heels, but certain types of make up, being asked to wear sheer blouses, being asked to wear skirts rather than trousers. the government said nicola's dress code was unlawful, breaching the equality act. but mps said that the law wasn't effective enough, leaving employers to make unreasonable demands. personally, i don't feel it's clear. it is open to interpretation, as we say, the word reasonable is used there and that is open to interpretation. is it so bad to ask a woman worker
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to wear a heel when we ask male workers to wear a shirt and tie? i think they are two entirely different things. they took lots of evidence from women saying they were going home with bleeding feet, they were taking painkillers at night to be able to sleep because they were in so much pain from the shoes they'd been wearing during the day. that's just not comparable to wearing a tie or a suit jacket. some might say this is all a bit of a storm in a teacup. they might very well do but you have to look at the bigger picture. i think that's the key thing. it should be about choice. there are plenty of women who like to wear heels to work, like to wear a face full of make—up to work. that should be their choice. it shouldn't be forced upon them. this issue, the high heel thing, is symbolic of a hangover from that 19505 kind of era where women were only seen as secretaries and receptionists, and now we are running the companies. i say to them, get over it. let us wear what we want, as long as we are smart. this is 0utside source live
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from the bbc newsroom. 0ur lead story... donald trump has signed executive orders launching plans to build a wall on the us—mexico border and limiting funds to cities that protect illegal immigrants. we can go back to washington, anthony zurcher is here. we have a lot of questions for you about executive orders. a couple of people wa nt to executive orders. a couple of people want to say, what about the funds? if you order something with executive orders, can you worry that the funding is in place? you cannot create new funding with executive orders but you can move the funding around so trump might be trying to
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move some funds for the wall building previously allocated for other reasons into wall construction 01’ other reasons into wall construction or something for subsidies and aid to mexico into wall construction but congress has the power and the purse and originally brings new funding into existence and congress has to pass an appropriation. someone asks, are the examples that fall outside the scope of executive orders? well, anything that creates new law, take anything that creates new law, take an example, immigration, congress originally was trying to legalise what permanently normalise the status of children who had come to the country as undocumented and make them permanent residence or give them permanent residence or give them some immigration status and they did not do that so barack obama used an executive order to say, we will not deport them, given
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temporary status. that was only a temporary status. that was only a temporary move, he could not make a lot to say these people are not legal. in the same way he try to get congress to pass laws increasing regulation of firearms. he wasn't able to so he executive orders that used some of his presidential authority to increase scrutiny on gun sales but he could not outright ban assault rifles or have larger background checks at gun shows and things like that. some people have picked up on this point... how long do these executive orders last, i have a prominent? be last untilthey be repealed. executive orders that barack obama be repealed. executive orders that ba rack 0bama put be repealed. executive orders that barack obama put into place lasted through the expiration of his term into donald trump's term but because one president can do one thing, another can it so donald trump can enter them when he wants as has done with the abortion counselling and
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that he stated. we appreciate your help. what about tomorrow? more on immigration, particularly taking a look at people coming from other countries. there was talk about a ban on muslims, i don't think we will see that but we could see some immigration visa bans on certain countries and also that could be further looking at refugees, perhaps a ban on serbian refugees and a suspension of the us refugee programme. we will see. you will help us through that. thank you. we appreciate that. thank you for all of us who stayed with us. lead story is president trump has begun the process of building a wall along the us mexico border but there have been many other developments besides. all the updates online. i will see you tomorrow. goodbye. this time yesterdayjohn was
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explaining how dry it has been in the last couple of months because of high pressure close by a blocked weather pattern and that means the jet stream across the uk is quite weak. it is diving to the south, pushing low—pressure across siberia into the mediterranean whilst the high pressure across europe is blocking the passage of weather fronts which bring the wind and rain. into thursday we have this blocked weather situation, as south—easterly continental air flow bringing colder air than by the stay and hill fog as opposed to low—level fog. pretty grey first thing from most of us and colder than wednesday morning. it will stay quite great for match of the day but temperatures in the countryside first thing we'll be pretty low, —3, _4’ first thing we'll be pretty low, —3, “11, because the cloud is thick it is giving us drizzle and snow, not a great deal but nevertheless some quite icy conditions on untreated roads. through the day little change
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is the cloud, feeling cold and the best chance of sunshine to the north—west of scotland and later in the south with the cloud meaning temperatures barely get above freezing, and the stronger wind, it will feel much colder. there is a su btle will feel much colder. there is a subtle wind direction change on friday, we get more of a southerly from the bay of biscay, still strong wind but it will be marginally less cold. still cold in after a smattering of snow for the first pa rt smattering of snow for the first part of friday in southern areas and eastern areas but primarily we start to see some heavier showers coming into the west as the day progresses. perhaps the start of a change, the first weather front knocking on the door of that high pressure and trying to move it out of the way. and it looks as if it might succeed through saturday, we might get that band of showery rain or bands of rain living through across the uk, temperatures above freezing, still cold and offer them to fall as snow
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over the hills and the low—pressure then moves away. the next one dive southwards across france and the low countries, at this stage, sunday is a dryer of the weekend with good spells of sunshine. not one, we're talking about sex — 8 degrees but it isa talking about sex — 8 degrees but it is a more mobile situation with one weather front living through already on saturday. the weekend is less cold, still some showers around on saturday with more sunshine on sunday. into monday, it looks like things become more mobile, you can see the low—pressure starting line—up and it does look more ferocious. not too nasty at this stage but they have got more energy in them. to try to move this high pressure away from the uk. eventually, rain comes through. during the course of monday. by the early pa rt during the course of monday. by the early part of next week we have a much wild west — eastjet stream, stronger across the uk, more likely to bring some wind and rain. the
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high pressures to close by but the chances are that the low—pressure will start to bring in that change to the wind and rain, it is how quickly and how far south and east it comes when it comes to this blocking high pressure that has been with us for a significant amount of time. it does look like we shall see rain next week and will become friendly with severe gales for the north and west, it is just how quickly it moves across the whole of the uk to affect the south and east as well. tonight at ten we have a special report on the marked increase in knife crime. last year, a knife or blade was used in a crime every 16 minutes somewhere in the uk. we report from the streets of liverpool. when did you start carrying knives? 12. can i see what you had there? scare tactics, the bigger the better new information from police shows there were more than 2,000 victims of knife crime last year aged 18 or younger.
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also tonight, planning is already underway for a wall on the us border with mexico. president trump says construction could start within months. beginning today the united states of america gets back control of its borders. gets back its borders.
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